View Full Version : Ratification poll for CoL Section X - Elections


ravensfire
Dec 28, 2003, 11:50 AM
Shall we ratify the following as Section X of the Code of Laws?

Elections (CoL section)

I. Elections shall be supervised by the Election Office under guidance
from the Moderators.
A. At the conclusion of an election cycle, the Election Office shall:
1. Determine and post the results of the election in a thread in the
main forum.
2. Determine and post the dates of the next election cycle in the
first post of the Election Office.

II. For the purposes of this clause, all times shall be expressed in GMT.

III. The following offices shall have one calendar month terms, beginning
on the first day of that month
A. President
B. Minister of Internal Affairs
C. Minister of Defense
D. Minister of Foreign Affairs
E. Minister of Trade and Technology
F. Chief Justice
G. 2 Associate Justice
H. 1 Provincial Governor per Province
I. At-Large Govenors, if needed

IV. Elections shall be conducted according to the following scheduled:
A. Nominations shall start 7 days before the end of the month and run
until the election polls are posted.
B. Debates shall start 7 days before the end of the month and run until
the election polls close.
C. Election polls shall start 4 days before the end of the month and run
for 3 days.

V. The citizen gathering the most votes in an election is deemed the winner
of that election.
A. Should more than one citizen tie with the highest totals, a run-off
election lasting 2 days shall be immediately posted listing only the tied citizens.


Relevant Discussion
Election Process (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72307)

Please vote as follows:
Yes
No
Abstain

This poll shall run for 4 days

Please also vote in the Code of Standards Election section (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73286).

-- Ravensfire

EDIT: Replaced Judiciary with Moderators in I.

Cyc
Dec 28, 2003, 02:19 PM
I'm going to have to declare the posting of this proposal contradictory to existing law. The very first line is contrary to Section F of the CoL, which states ~

3. Democracy game forum moderators are responsible
for overseeing the election process and determining the validity of election results.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We obviously have a conflict of authority here. This needs to be resolved. I believe as Section F is about to pass, we should strike Judiciary from Section X.I and replace it with Civ3 Demogame Moderators.

Bootstoots
Dec 28, 2003, 02:33 PM
I agree with that, Judiciary should be replaced with Moderators because of already-approved legislation.

Otherwise, it looks good to me.

ravensfire
Dec 28, 2003, 04:10 PM
Cyc, Boots,

Bah - can't believe I missed that. In the back of my head I was wanting to have the Judiciary serve as the primary supervision for elections, with mods called in only as needed (suspected fraud). As we have things in the mod. duties section of the CoL, we can't do that.

Thus, as both of you have commented, that needs to change. I'm going to edit the main post.

Attention! There has been a slight verbage change in the proposal, replacing Judiciary with Moderators in clause I. Please post here if this would have affected your ratification vote.

Sorry for any trouble!
-- Ravensfire

Furiey
Dec 29, 2003, 08:55 AM
Changing Judiciary to Moderators solves the conflict, but I don’t think that it keeps the intention of the law. How about:

Elections shall be supervised by the Election Office under guidance from the Judiciary and oversight by the Moderators.

This tries to indicate that the Judiciary are there more in an active role, the Moderators acting more as independent overseers. From the discussions this appears to be more what was intended.

Karsten Strauss
Dec 29, 2003, 01:48 PM
Whatever we decide, I encourage us to clear up the moderators issue quickly since we are in the midst of our first elections. I think we should go with just replacing justices with moderators for the moment, and we can work on a constitutional amendment later if need be. I'd like to get it right now, but I don't want to see first term election controversy.

Sarevok
Dec 30, 2003, 08:27 PM
Its good as is.

ravensfire
Jan 06, 2004, 09:18 AM
This section has been ratified.

-- Ravensfire