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ravensfire
Dec 28, 2003, 11:57 AM
Shall we ratify the following as Section Y of the Code of Standards?


Elections (CoS section)

I. Nominations
A. The Election Office shall create one Nomination thread for each possible
Election poll. These threads shall be in the Citizen sub-forum.
B. Any citizen may nominate any other citizen, including themself, for any
office.
C. To be listed in the Election poll, a Citizen must post that they have
accepted a nomination.
1. A self-nomination is considered to be automatically accepted.
D. A citizen is limited to accepting no more than 3 nominations in any
election cycle.
1. Each accepted nomination must be in a different branch of Government.
2. The Election Office is responsible for contacting citizens that have
exceeded the limit.
3. Should the citizen not reduce their acceptances to the limit, the
Election Office shall interpret the earier acceptances as having
priority over the later in creating the election ballots.
E. The Election Office shall create a Nomination Tracking thread in the
Citizen sub-forum summarizing all nominations and their status.

II. Debates
A. Debates shall be held within the Nomination thread.
B. Any citizen may post a question or statement in this thread.
C. No candidate shall be forced to respond to a question.
D. The Election Office shall maintain a list of the asked questions
and periodically repost them.

III. Polling
A. Polling threads shall be created by the Election Office in the main forum.
B. Only accepted nominations shall be listed in the Election poll.
C. The poll shall list the the nominees and abstain.
D. Each office shall have its own poll.
1. Judiciary exceptions:
i. There shall be only 1 poll for the Judiciary branch.
ii. The nominee with the most votes shall be the Chief Justice.
iii. The nominees with the 2nd and 3rd most votes shall be the Associate
Justices.
iv. Should a tie exist for 1st, the nominees tied for that
position shall be listed in a poll to determine who shall be
the Chief Justice.
v. Should a tie exist for 3rd, only those nominees
tied for that position shall be listed in the run-off.
2. At-Large Governors
i. There shall be only one poll for all At-Large Governor positions.
ii. The top X candidates, where X is the number of At-Large Governor
positions for the election cycle, shall be the At-Large Governors
iii. Should a tie exist between two or more citizens for the final
At-Large Governor position, a run-off poll listing only those
citizens shall be posted. This poll shall last for 2 days.


Relevant Discussion
Election Process (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72307)

Please vote as follows:
Yes
No
Abstain

Please also vote in the ratification poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73284) for the CoL Election section

This poll shall run for 4 days.

-- Ravensfire

Furiey
Dec 28, 2003, 12:13 PM
Re: III.D.1.i

So why do we currently have 1 poll for Chief Justice, and another for Associate Justice?

ravensfire
Dec 28, 2003, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Furiey
Re: III.D.1.i

So why do we currently have 1 poll for Chief Justice, and another for Associate Justice?

Quite simply - we didn't get this done in time. The Election office did the best they could with what they had.

-- Ravesnfire

Cyc
Dec 28, 2003, 02:02 PM
Because we rushed the election process. Instead of approaching it in a logical manner and discussing it properly, we threw it up just for the sake of having it up and running. Such a shame.

Bootstoots
Dec 28, 2003, 02:22 PM
I'm still not sure about the At-Large governors. How do we determine how many there will be in any given election cycle, and do elections for all existing provinces still occur in the manner that they did in previous demogames?

Furiey
Dec 28, 2003, 02:28 PM
Thanks for the answers Ravensfire & Cyc - my lurking in DGIII was pretty much limited to the game itself, I didn't take much notice of the official side of it. As I'm only just starting to make head or tail of it I never know whether or not it's just me missing something! Still, it'll be a shame to lose one of you from the Judiciary as a result.

ravensfire
Dec 28, 2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Bootstoots
I'm still not sure about the At-Large governors. How do we determine how many there will be in any given election cycle, and do elections for all existing provinces still occur in the manner that they did in previous demogames?

Boots,

In the CoL, legislature section as it's currently proposed, sets the number of at-large governors to be that number needed to bring the total number of Governors to 3. So, 1 province = 2 At-Large governors. 2 Provinces = 1 At-Large Governor. 3 or more provinces = no At-Large Governors.

To your second question - yes, existing provinces are handled the same manner as DG3 - one campaign per province.

-- Ravensfire

ravensfire
Dec 28, 2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Furiey
Thanks for the answers Ravensfire & Cyc - my lurking in DGIII was pretty much limited to the game itself, I didn't take much notice of the official side of it. As I'm only just starting to make head or tail of it I never know whether or not it's just me missing something! Still, it'll be a shame to lose one of you from the Judiciary as a result.

Any time!

It is a complex ruleset - nobody will dispute that. With some patience, it should become pretty clear. Look at it this way, the three books all work together.

The Constitution is the top book - it defines stuff in general terms and grants various rights, duties and responsibilities. Nothing in the lower books may contradict what it says.

The Code of Laws is next. It details much of what the Constitution states. For example, the Constitution describes the Executive Branch and what it does in general terms. The Code of Laws gets very specific about what the duties and responsibilities are.

Finally, the Code of Standards describes some of the more important processes that we have in the game.

To see how they all work together - look at Elections. The Constitution says we have elected officials that serve fixed terms. The Code of Laws gets into who runs the process, what the offices are, how long the terms are, etc. The Code of Standards gets into the details of the process, what gets created, where, etc.

Most of the ruleset probably won't be needed - many things are common sense. Any time you have a question though, feel free to post in the Judiciary thread (once term 1 starts, of course!) and the Judiciary will be quite willing to help you out.

Hopefully we'll see you as a mayor soon, and running for elections!

-- Ravensfire

Bootstoots
Dec 28, 2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by ravensfire


Boots,

In the CoL, legislature section as it's currently proposed, sets the number of at-large governors to be that number needed to bring the total number of Governors to 3. So, 1 province = 2 At-Large governors. 2 Provinces = 1 At-Large Governor. 3 or more provinces = no At-Large Governors.

To your second question - yes, existing provinces are handled the same manner as DG3 - one campaign per province.

-- Ravensfire
So, in the current gubernatorial election, the second and third place candidates will become the At-Large governors?

BTW, I voted yes to this proposal.

ybbor
Dec 28, 2003, 05:21 PM
eliminate the firist part of D, part 1 says what is needed; also how do we determine who governs what?

Furiey
Dec 28, 2003, 05:59 PM
RE: At Large Governors: Why not just use the poll to determine the order in which governors are appointed until the next election, then we don’t have to specify the number we need, but if we gain more territory than expected (whether by settling or conquest), then we know who to call on.

OK maybe too late (and wrong place) for this discussion, but as I said earlier, only just working it all out…

PS: Ravensfire - I do hope to run for Mayor soon, an elected position will have to wait until work commitments allow the time - it would not be fair otherwise.

PPS: I also voted yes – this is good enough to get on with, we can always refine the details later!

Cyc
Jan 01, 2004, 12:04 PM
Officially, Section Y of the Code of Standards has been ratified.