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Octavian X
Jan 01, 2004, 03:57 AM
The current discussion regarding CoL secion of the Executive branch cuts out all council votes.

This creates a problem for the CoS. In the past, the CoS has been amended by Legislative Council Vote.

Do we want to reintroduce council votes simply to amend the CoS? Should we devise a new method for amending the third book? Of, am I missing something?

zorven
Jan 01, 2004, 09:36 AM
All the laws are created by the Congress (the citizens) and therefore I believe it should be the sole responsibility of the Congress to amend or change the laws. We don't need a smaller group of citizens to approve what the whole citizenry has already approved.

Bootstoots
Jan 01, 2004, 06:52 PM
I feel that the citizens should be able to approve or reject CoS amendments. This can be done by a poll with a quorum of 1/2 of the active census, with a simple majority needed for ratification.

ravensfire
Jan 03, 2004, 11:10 PM
Amending the Code of Laws requires sets the quorum at 1/2 the census.

Conceptually, the CoS should be easier to change than either of the previous books. I think something like this would do:


Q. Amending the Code of Standards
1. Polls to amend the Code of Standarsd shall be posted by the Judiciary
upon succesful completion of a Judicial Review.
2. Polls are to be in anonymous responder format (standard Forum
poll option).
A. Proposal must be in Yes/No/Abstain format.
B. Polls will stay open until:
1. All votes have been cast, or;
3. The posted poll closing time has been reached.
1. Minimum duration to run a poll is 48 hours.
C. There is no quorum to amend the Code of Standards
D. A simple majority of support is required to adopt or alter a standard.

-- Ravensfire

zorven
Jan 03, 2004, 11:15 PM
Ravensfire,

In point 2 you reference "standard Forum poll". Do you mean that point 2 means to say that polls should follow CoS F?

ravensfire
Jan 03, 2004, 11:54 PM
zorven,

That is correct.

-- Ravensfire

zorven
Jan 04, 2004, 12:03 AM
Ravensfire,

Would it be good to explicity refer to CoS Section F just so it is clear as to the intent of this section?

Bootstoots
Jan 04, 2004, 08:30 AM
It looks good to me, ravensfire.

ravensfire
Jan 04, 2004, 11:02 PM
zorven, is this a bit better?

Q. Amending the Code of Standards
1. Polls to amend the Code of Standarsd shall be posted by the Judiciary
upon succesful completion of a Judicial Review.
2. Polls are to be in anonymous responder format (standard Forum
poll option). and follow the standard Forum Poll procedures.
A. Proposal must be in Yes/No/Abstain format.
B. Polls will stay open until:
1. All votes have been cast, or;
3. The posted poll closing time has been reached.
1. Minimum duration to run a poll is 48 hours.
C. There is no quorum to amend the Code of Standards
D. A simple majority of support is required to adopt or alter a standard.

-- Ravensfire

ravensfire
Jan 12, 2004, 09:17 AM
Poll has been posted here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73725).

-- Ravensfire