This is a unit that could be used, in my opinion, as a flavor unit for the longbowman. The weapon is basically a sort of "manual trebuchet," as far as I can tell. I don't actually know anything about them; I just saw a picute at the DBA on-line site and thought it would make a cool unit. Anyway, enjoy. I haven't played with the unit in-game yet, but hopefully it will work out okay.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Pole_Slinger_First_Preview.gif
No, he doesn't really reload the weapon, but who cares?



Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Pole_Slinger.zip).

The unit is great (as always) but (since otherwise I'll scour the DBA site for hours :crazyeye: ) who used it and when?:

looks great, i like the idea of it not reloading, probably take too much time/energy/space/etc.

good job

I love it! Thanks! :goodjob:


Would like to know who used it though...

Very nice :)

Terrific unit!! Thanks again :goodjob:

what civ does this goto?

Italy. But any European Civ can use it, I guess :)

Its certainly beutifull:thumbsup:, but any history nuts have an idea how to use it, if you dont wanna replace your crossbowman?

Medieval age Lacrosse player...

I'm certain I'll use him :goodjob:

Originally posted by Cimbri
Italy. But any European Civ can use it, I guess :)

wrong, it goes to the greeks, and to spain (Rhodeian, and baleric Slingers were the best in all antiquity)

as a standard ardher replacement

going further a few centuries, it really wouldnt be out of place in a Byzantine army...

oh yes, and a SUPERB unit utahjazz! if you wait a day, I might have a very interesting request- somthing a far cry differnt, and yet in the same "familly' as what you have been doing latelly... but a few centuries fast forwarded ;)

Originally posted by Xen


wrong, it goes to the greeks, and to spain (Rhodeian, and baleric Slingers were the best in all antiquity)

Ah, but no.

Pole slingers were used in Dark Ages and Medieval Europe :cool:

Originally posted by Cimbri


Ah, but no.

Pole slingers were used in Dark Ages and Medieval Europe :cool:

like in the Byzantine empire which I mentioned- but you cant for an instant say they were present in such numbers as to make them a better choice then the archer to represent a civs long rance capacity (although, I have a nice use for him in a dark age scenario role anyway ;))

Anyway someone could shrink this guy down? He would make a great kender for my halfling civ.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

The DBA doesn't have this unit listed under a specific civilization, rather he's part of the "early crusader (http://www.dbaol.com/armies/army_138_figure_1.htm)" army. The dates are from around 1096 to 1128.

Hmm… A Pole Slinger… He must be an Eastern European of some sort… :mischief:

Nice unit utah, as always :)

LOL, that's what I thought. "Hmm... but we alreadyt have the Hussar....". I figured i'd use him for the Russian civ as an archer unit, but that's cause I assumed he was Polish. Now I'm not sure. He looks like perhaps a German archer replacement with the furs and whatnot.



Great unit Utah. And now on to the Hornet Hurler? :D

very nice, and very original! :)

Originally posted by aaminion00
Great unit Utah. And now on to the Hornet Hurler? :D

Uh . . . well . . . I'm going to do the Falxman now. I might do the "Hornet Hurler" afterwards, but I'm not sure.


Originally posted by Kal-el
very nice, and very original! :)

Thanks, Kal. I haven't seen you around for awhile. Have you been working on any concept sketches?

been busy with the holidays, haven't been doing much drawing do to time constraints. I will, though.

Don't have a clue how to use it yet but it is a splendid unit and very unique, which is all the better ! :goodjob:

Of course he does not reload but who (except me ;) ) cares !
Maybe he could throw a tad higher ? Looks a bit short in the preview (of course might be definitely OK in-game).

Otherwise thanks !

Awesome... Great looking and yes as others said it's original :D
Maybe make the Longbowman require a resource (yew wood maybe) and have this one available with the same tech, slightly weaker with no resource.

Originally posted by Cimbri
Hmm… A Pole Slinger… He must be an Eastern European of some sort… :mischief: No, you got it wrong... he's not the Pole. He's a giant, throwing Poles... :mischief:


Nice unit utah! :thumbsup:

Apparently, he's a character from the Brothers Karamazov.

Very nice...

Someone had think about it stats? I think about something like 2/2/1 all roads - cost: 20

I know it's a low stat, but i think this guy, in spite of be very well drawned, don't have the same capacity to fight of a longbowman or a crossbow...

What you say?

Again: Cool unit.

Originally posted by Cimbri
Hmm… A Pole Slinger… He must be an Eastern European of some sort… :mischief:

*Throws rotten tomatos at high velocities at Cimbri.
:)

If I download the unit, will it automaticly be put in the game? If not, then what must I do to use it?

Yay.... this unit is nice :thubmsup:

blackhalo;
you have to do several things before this unit is installed into your game. Look help from the tutorial forum, like this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71114

Originally posted by utahjazz7


Uh . . . well . . . I'm going to do the Falxman now. I might do the "Hornet Hurler" afterwards, but I'm not sure.




Thanks, Kal. I haven't seen you around for awhile. Have you been working on any concept sketches?

What's 'hornet hurler', precious?

an unit, which throws bee's nests :D :evil:

I've been lurking around the forum here, this unit caught my eye and made me register...

This weapon is more typically called a Staff Sling (at least on the internet).

This guy claims it was known to the ancient English and Romans but mostly used by Asian and Middle Eastern peoples:
http://cynewulf.black-panther.org.uk/theod/ssl_hist.htm

Some movies of how to use it:
http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/nikolas.lloyd/weapons/staffsling.html

Suggested stats: 3/1/1, requires iron (for shot), cost same as archer, available to everybody.

Any way this guy could be shrunk to be made a kender? You know a kender from Dragonlance?

Originally posted by tjedge1
Any way this guy could be shrunk to be made a kender? You know a kender from Dragonlance? It's quite easy using Steph's SBB.

aaa.... Tasselhof :lol:

This is really looking good.
The death would be fun, if he started the throw, and the stick would break during the swing, and the ball would land on the poor guys head... ;)

Originally posted by mrtn
It's quite easy using Steph's SBB.

Kindred72 posted a preview in my thread for my mod on page 9. It seems as if he was working on a version already. Hair and all.

The Carthaginian Army under Hannibal used pole slingers against the Romans. This unit looks good.

The Carthaginian Army under Hannibal used pole slingers against the Romans. This unit looks good.Pole slingers or Balearic slingers? I have no clue, but I thought it was the latter rather than the former.

utahjazz, when are you going to you have your computer back? I have a request for you: a modification of this unit. (and I'm waiting for the lancer, of course)

utahjazz, when are you going to you have your computer back? I have a request for you: a modification of this unit. (and I'm waiting for the lancer, of course)

Well, right now, I'm at the airport in Detroit, MI waiting for a connecting flight to Toledo, OH. I should be home in about two hours or so. I've started rendering the units that I was working on this summer, but I haven't finished the animations for the lancer yet. It's kind of tricky. I'll finish it sometime though. The shadow problem seems to be solved.

Great! You know, the release of the expansion pack of my mod is postoponed to when I have 2 units from you and one from DonPedro.
My 2nd requests for you is this unit with:
-an iron helmet instead of that cap
-no shield on his back
-a piked mace (the one that Medieval Infantry has) attack (the animation seems the same).
-you can resize the frame, as the sling is not need anymore

Hmm . . . I'll think about it. It'll be a while though, so I'm not sure it's a good idea that your mod is dependant on this request . . . or the lancer.

My mod is dependant on them. I don't need them for a while, let's say I need them for mid-late September

WHat do people think about adding a weak (1) bombard capability to this guy? I was thinking particularly during the attack of a city. How would I pull that off?

WHat do people think about adding a weak (1) bombard capability to this guy? I was thinking particularly during the attack of a city. How would I pull that off?
Please don't bump old threads.

@Bjornlo: He's new, and he is asking a relevant question. It's stoopid bumping that's frowned on, not this.

@ csep: If you want to add a "defensive bombard" (I think that's what you mean), you go into the editor and give the unit a defensive value but a range of zero (firepower will be irrelevant, although you may need to give it at least 1). That way the unit will bombard once per turn if the stack it's in is attacked.

The pole sling, or staff sling, was a common weapon of Thrace. It was used by lightly armored infantry, called Peltasts. Peltasts would rush on to the battlefield, throw their stone or javelin, and then run away.

well since they bumped an old thread, any chance making this guy look more ancient?

To be honest . . . no, not really.

Someone could do a cut-n-paste, but I don't think I'll do anything like this again.

What are ya working on these days Utah?

Nothing really.

that's a crime! (or should be ;))

Well, starting tomorrow, I'll be working on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince!

I wish I had time to read lately. I've gotten heavily into map making and beta testing. :crazyeye:

Thank you for your hard work, this unit will work very nicely in my scenario. :goodjob:

Do you have to do that?