View Full Version : Li Shi Min Leaderhead (fixed)


embryodead
Jan 10, 2004, 05:55 PM
This Li Shi Min leaderhead comes from Chinese Civ3 edition; I just fixed problems with jumping frames and speed (each flic has 121 frames now, except ancient which has 50 but is slowed down to match the rest); fixed transparency problems; added pedia icons and new advisor PCX with more distinctive moods.

It's era- and mood- specific. You can use it with your mod or put it into your Civilization III/Art folder to replace Mao (but remember backup Mao files first!).

With help from Wang Yu Shi who provided the files and then from Drift, the file is now available at CFC:
http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/graphics/LiShiMin.zip

Also, here is small bonus - alternative leaderhead and civilopedia icons using medieval era instead of modern:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/LiShiMin_Medieval.zip

tjedge1
Jan 10, 2004, 06:20 PM
That looks great. :goodjob:

Rufus T. Firefly
Jan 10, 2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by embryodead
This Li Shi Min leaderhead comes from Chinese Civ3 edition; I just fixed problems with jumping frames and speed (each flic has 121 frames now, except ancient which has 50 but is slowed down to match the rest); fixed transparency problems; added pedia icons and new advisor PCX with more distinctive moods.


Mao in China like Stalin in URSS with Krushev (the deStalinization)?

Drift
Jan 10, 2004, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Rufus T.Firefly
Mao in China like Stalin in URSS with Krushev (the deStalinization)?

IMHO something like that, yes. The country has come a long way since the cultural revolution and let a hundred flowers blossom policy. Modern China is communist mainly in name - large amount of it's economy is based on the free market zones like the Hong Kong area.

embryodead
Jan 10, 2004, 06:52 PM
As far as I know Mao is still liked very much as a person, even in China, ie. he's also a poet, actually a good one. Nevertheless, I prefer to use Li Shi Min now...

Dom Pedro II
Jan 10, 2004, 08:24 PM
Actually, I think Mao is still rather revered in China. I think it has more to do with the fact that the Party doesn't want it's main hero portrayed as some cartoon character in a video game... especially one in which China might lose.


And btw, thank you embryodead! :goodjob:

Mobilize
Jan 10, 2004, 08:33 PM
What is with his whacky beard? I say it's good for Ancient-Industrial eras, but he wouldn't have that in Modern days.

Still very nice. You know what somebody should do? They should replace the Modern LiShimin leaderheads with the Modern Mao. I would like that more because I don't care much for the Modern LiShimin and it would be more like real life.

ShiroKobbure
Jan 10, 2004, 08:42 PM
they still like moa in china
my friend in china told me they look up to him
and she bought a book he wrote ^ ^
I would like to see a chang kia shek leader head ^ ^

Dom Pedro II
Jan 10, 2004, 08:49 PM
Go to Taiwan... ;)

ShiroKobbure
Jan 10, 2004, 08:52 PM
I was thinking that
because some chinese dont like taiwanese and taiwanese of course dont like mao, but maybe the li shi min was made for the taiwan game

Dom Pedro II
Jan 10, 2004, 09:11 PM
Didn't chiang kai shek "start" Taiwan? As a quasi-independent country that is...

ShiroKobbure
Jan 10, 2004, 09:29 PM
yes taiwan = nationalist china

wangyushi
Jan 10, 2004, 10:26 PM
embryodead: Thank you very, very much!:p ;)

Mobilize
Jan 10, 2004, 11:07 PM
The Chinese Civil War was very very interesting. Nationalist vs. Communist, then they join up during WW2 then they go back to fighting. Mao's PLA armies marched through the desert and came back around and forced the Nationalists to retreat to Formosa. Chiang Hai Shek still held ground on Formosa, now Taiwan, and kept the Republic of China there.

The US navy is stationed inbetween China and Taiwan to protect Taiwan from being invaded. The PR of China considers Taiwan part of China while Taiwan considers themselves the old China or just Taiwan.

If PR of China ever gets rid of Communism Taiwan could perhaps join up with China again and they'd bring back the Republic of China.

R8XFT
Jan 11, 2004, 12:37 AM
Thanks guys for all your hard work fixing the Li Shi Min leaderhead. The Medieval era pcx files also look miles better IMHO. :goodjob:

zulu9812
Jan 11, 2004, 03:52 AM
I will definitely be using this in place of Mao - I've always wanted to have China's leader be someone pre-20th century

Ankka
Jan 11, 2004, 04:36 AM
Looks very nice, better than the original one. :goodjob:

Rhye
Jan 11, 2004, 05:06 AM
Mao was really inaccurate in Medieval Age: he was dressed like an European!

ShiroKobbure
Jan 11, 2004, 11:22 AM
so was Wang Kon
and his ancient face was medevil
I was to make a face of him in fur like everone else is

ShiroKobbure
Jan 11, 2004, 03:01 PM
embryodead could you make emporer meiji your next leader head project?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74983

Louis XXIV
Jan 11, 2004, 08:54 PM
The reason I heard that Firaxis made Li Shi Min was because China didn't want Mao shown beaten up at any time (i.e., when he is defeated).

civilleader
Jan 20, 2004, 11:10 AM
this puppy beats mao so much!

GeneralMeng
Jan 22, 2004, 11:17 PM
nice

Commissar_Yari
Jan 23, 2004, 02:44 AM
The reason they didn't have Mao as the leader in China is because the Chinese Communist Party (Communist IN NAME ONLY, people!) do not like Mao at all.

This is due to the fact that there was a political coup of a sort by Deng Xiaoping who reformed China into a capitalist nation, and he basically tried to de-Mao the country similar to what Khruschev did with de-stalinisation (except Khruschev changed Russia from Fascist to Capitalist, not Communist to Capitalist like in China)

Veteranewbie
Jan 23, 2004, 07:21 AM
Mao is a good military leader, but a crappy national builder. He must be a warmonger in civ3 ;)

TopGun
Jan 23, 2004, 11:26 AM
I think I like him... LOL

xiaosongsong
Jan 23, 2004, 08:57 PM
As a Chinese living in China, I think Mao is a great man. The common people such as the farmers and taxi drivers put his portrait as good luck icons.

As a gamer, I think we should be true to the history. Li Shi Min should be the ancient leader and Mao be the modern leader.
However, I prefer to use the current china political leader rather than Mao.

Thanks for the Li Shi Min art work.

xiaosongsong

ShiroKobbure
Jan 23, 2004, 09:01 PM
if you are chinese dont you have li shi min already? ^ ^;;
yes, all my chinese friends like mao

Unidentified
Jan 24, 2004, 09:16 AM
Everyone has his good side and bad side... Mao's reforms could be cruel and blood-thirsty, but who knows if China would be worse if he didn't come to power?

As a person of pure Chinese blood living in Hong Kong, I personally do not really look up upon Mao...

Yzarc
Jan 26, 2004, 12:47 PM
How the {explisitly deleated} do you make those moving units n stuff!?
Help me, i need to know, please...

Yzarc
Jan 26, 2004, 12:58 PM
How the {explisitly deleated} do you make those moving units n stuff!?
Help me, i need to know, please...:saiyan:

ShiroKobbure
Jan 26, 2004, 01:11 PM
but dont people in china feel differently than people in hong kong?

Rita Poon
Jan 26, 2004, 10:06 PM
Very nice-thank you Wangyushi! I'm using it. Mao is just too modern. Same with Gandhi. That & I always thought the idea of Gandhi wiping out other civs was odd.

BTW-has someone hooked up Wangyushi w/ the Mao leaderhead yet? :groucho:

Mobilize
Jan 26, 2004, 11:25 PM
xiaosongsong: "However, I prefer to use the current china political leader rather than Mao."?

Hmm???? Is there a Chinese leaderhead of a current Chinese politican too?

tigerblow
Feb 01, 2004, 12:31 AM
Thanks,I get it!

ocedius
Jun 04, 2004, 09:25 AM
Thanks for the great leaderhead. Its better than the Mao leaderhead we have, now I'll use Li Shi Min as ancient->middle, and Mao for industrial->modern.

Thanks again

mouselmm
Jun 12, 2004, 09:37 PM
I really like this version of Li ShiMin

The old one is just too crappy

thanks anyways, i am putting this leaderhead in my new Scenario (The Great Tang)

sourboy
Jun 21, 2004, 04:09 PM
Anyone know if there are any other Firaxis made Leaderheads that weren't released in the common versions? I wouldn't mind swapping out a few of the vanilla civ's LH's...