I have 2 problems with the editor:
1.) The Edit Rules Panel is too big and I can't see all of the fields available for edit. The bottom of the panel stays hidden even if I drag the title bar all the way up.
2.) Saving the changes to the rules. I tweak some of the rules and there's no Save function that I can find. When I go back in the rules are still set at the default parameters.

In addition, where can I find a version of the 1.16 patch so I can compare it with 1.17?

"Greg, we gotta do this thing tomorrow. We're almost outta booze."

I really hope to find help. Keep getting an IPF at 0167. I have spent a couple hours on the line with technical support and nothing seems to fix the problem! I have updated all drivers, played with Virtual Memory Settings, Disabled all other programs at startup. It still always crashes at the end of a turn after all other Civs take their turn and My cities are building whatever they are working on. It happens in any game i start, well into the game. One game its at 110BC another its at 730BC 16 Civs. Another game with only 4 Civs.
After speaking with a friend about my problem He suggested its a Stack error and Game Design Flaw. I also believe this to be the problem but technical support will not admit it! If it is..will a patch fix it at some point or am I doomed to disappointment. I recently found this website in hopes of correcting my game error and am looking forward to some of the Mod Packs. Please Someone help me Ive fallen and i cant get up!

Almost forgot! Im running
Win 98 se - Latest updates
AMD Athlon MMX 3D now 1300 Mhz
Amptronk7-830LM Motherboard
512 meg DDR Ram
Soundblaster Audigy Gamer- Latest Drivers
PNY AGP GeForce 3 Ti 200 64mb - Latest Drivers
Phillips Brilliance 107p Monitor
Directx 8.1

Hi.

I'm playing a game with more than 8 civs. How do I get the rest to come up on the diplomacy screen?
If you can help me, that would be great!

Thanks,
zozz

You can only show 8 at any one time, but you can choose which civ occupies a given spot by holding down shift and righ-clicking (which should give you a drop down menu of all civs currently not shown).

If one of the spaces is blank (as in your case) just hold the pointer over the space and you should get a yellow circle - then just do the shift-right click as above.

You can also use this feature to swap positions of civs (i.e. swap one out and then in again somewhere else). I often do this so my allies are near the top and enemies at the bottom.

Originally posted by Exile_Ian
You can only show 8 at any one time, but you can choose which civ occupies a given spot by holding down shift and righ-clicking (which should give you a drop down menu of all civs currently not shown).

If one of the spaces is blank (as in your case) just hold the pointer over the space and you should get a yellow circle - then just do the shift-right click as above.

You can also use this feature to swap positions of civs (i.e. swap one out and then in again somewhere else). I often do this so my allies are near the top and enemies at the bottom.

Thanks!
I'd been shift-left clicking.

RomeoTDnH,

I had a similar sort of problem -- I started a new games and it crashed at about the same situatin as the prior game. In my case, when I discovered Iron.

I called the tech support number in the manual, listened to all the messages such as to build a Courthouse, paid attention and eventually got a nice human -- once I had convinced the computer that I had heard all of its messages (a speakerphone is a useful tool here).

I asked for the email support address. I submitted my problem, with save files, and after a couple days got back a useful response. The instructions were very detailed, to uninstall, run defrag, carefully wash the CDROM -- you need to go thru all of this and get your own copy of their instructions.

When I had done it, my game worked, and I was able to resume my stalled games.

It is unfortunate, but this indicates the Civ3 installer also has bugs. It is capable of copying files incorrectly to the hard disk, instead of verifying that all files were copied correctly. A heinous bug, if you ask me, but fortunately correctable. Unfortunately, the corruption problems seem not possible to overcome.

Nevermind. Delete this post.

Originally posted by GaryNemo
RomeoTDnH,

I had a similar sort of problem -- I started a new games and it crashed at about the same situatin as the prior game. In my case, when I discovered Iron.

I called the tech support number in the manual, listened to all the messages such as to build a Courthouse, paid attention and eventually got a nice human -- once I had convinced the computer that I had heard all of its messages (a speakerphone is a useful tool here).

I asked for the email support address. I submitted my problem, with save files, and after a couple days got back a useful response. The instructions were very detailed, to uninstall, run defrag, carefully wash the CDROM -- you need to go thru all of this and get your own copy of their instructions.

When I had done it, my game worked, and I was able to resume my stalled games.

It is unfortunate, but this indicates the Civ3 installer also has bugs. It is capable of copying files incorrectly to the hard disk, instead of verifying that all files were copied correctly. A heinous bug, if you ask me, but fortunately correctable. Unfortunately, the corruption problems seem not possible to overcome.


Thanks for the response. I tried all the things you suggested(again) and my game still crashes!
Skotie will you please try and help me out on this one.

Every time I download a succession game and unzip it into my saves folder then try to load it in the game I get the following errors:

DataIO operation System Error: CULT
DataIO operation System Error: ESPN
DataIO operation System Error: ESPN
DataIO operation System Error: LEAD

PLEASE help me fix this so I can participate in succession games. other than that my game runs fine

Civ 3 had been running fine for me, until I installed the 1.17f patch. Now I get a drive read error (Please insert Civ3 Disc into CD drive). There's nothing wrong with my drive or the CD. :crazyeye:

(Win 98
Celeron 400
256 RAM
GeForce 2 32MB)

Any help?

Civ 3 had been running fine for me, until I installed the 1.17f patch. Now I get a drive read error (Please insert Civ3 Disc into CD drive). There's nothing wrong with my drive or the CD

I had the same problem.
I cured it by reinstalling CIV3.

It is annoying if we are going to have to reinstall the game every time a patch comes out.

Hi people,

Hmmm what a fairly well sized thread (I wonder why :mad: )

I hope sb. can give me a hand with this:

- I ve been playing for some time (1970s) now- the AI has made its turn, my automatic building moves start:
- just built my academy, almost exclusivly military units being completed in the building slots, quelled some resisters i one city...

- Then what happens is that the programe begins to load sth. (?) and comes up with yet another RANDOM CRASH:

CIVILIZATION3 caused an invalid page fault in
module CIVILIZATION3.EXE at 0177:00403036.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0177 EIP=00403036 EFLGS=00010206
EBX=005cb848 SS=017f ESP=00abf798 EBP=01360eb0
ECX=0f2f7e6c DS=017f ESI=0f2f7e6c FS=3dff
EDX=000024e4 ES=017f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 80 3c 01 00 00 83 c1 58 8b 50 04 52 e8 e8 d8
Stack dump:
00000000 004063e3 00000000 0f2f7e6c 0f2f7c80 01d027b0 0000147e 00000000 0058bf02 005cb848 005121fd 0f2f6040 00abf804 005993bb ffffffff 004ef898

I had crashes with Civ3 before, usually related to mods in use- not the reason in this one though- I have also experienced crashes when some procedures seem to overlap (had to get the AI to declare war to change their building slots, and the like to unscramble this mess)

My question: Has anyone ever come up with a solution to this #*@§$&ß ????? Everything is up 2 date (including the last patch)

:(

So has anyone else seen the fighters flying backwards yet? :lol: I have a game going where, when one of my bombers is intercepted by a japanese fighter the game apparently freezes momentarily (20-30secs) and then I get the amusing sight of watching the jet that just blew my bomber away retrace its route *flying backwards*.Like someone is cleaning up a stack of images, but forgot to not show them while they're deleting. Also have a freeze up if one of my jets flying "rule the skies", or whatever that is, actually intercepts an enemy fighter...BANG...froze up solid. I *think* that is what is occurring since when I take the jet out of rule the skies mode the freeze no longer occurs and the enemy fighter merrily bombs away at me. :crazyeye:

And why is it that the AI's jets actually have an affect when they bomb, but mine never do? :confused:

And man, the viciousness of the AI - it took me 15 veteran modern armour attacking from a fortified hill position to clean up 8 unfortified enemy armour sitting in the open unfortified on a frickin' plain(I lost 9 and had 7 seriously wounded). :cry:

howling indignant,
regards,
L.

Originally posted by Lunlupus
So has anyone else seen the fighters flying backwards yet? :lol: I have a game going where, when one of my bombers is intercepted by a japanese fighter the game apparently freezes momentarily (20-30secs) and then I get the amusing sight of watching the jet that just blew my bomber away retrace its route *flying backwards*.Like someone is cleaning up a stack of images, but forgot to not show them while they're deleting. Also have a freeze up if one of my jets flying "rule the skies", or whatever that is, actually intercepts an enemy fighter...BANG...froze up solid. I *think* that is what is occurring since when I take the jet out of rule the skies mode the freeze no longer occurs and the enemy fighter merrily bombs away at me. :crazyeye:
L.

Well, I ve got backwards moving Bismarck (edited) Battleships from time 2 time... the freezing due to ski-patrol is mentioned somewhere in this thread :confused:

today's hurrah: 22 bombers (all I have) lacing into a size one city (apparently with no improvements to destroy...will find out shortly) and i managed to get one hit for one minor wound to the veteran mechanical armour defending it. The other 21 were "bombing run failed":crazyeye:
L.

...two babylonian transports took out two attacking full strength (1 elite!) battleships

Originally posted by W.i.n.t.e.r
Hi people,

Hmmm what a fairly well sized thread (I wonder why :mad: )

My question: Has anyone ever come up with a solution to this #*@§$&ß ????? Everything is up 2 date (including the last patch)

:(


Ok- I managed to around the problem this time- BY CHEATING (THIS IS RIDICULUS- I DID EVERYTHING SINGLEHANDEDLY AND NOW THIS IS THE ONLY WAY, TO HACK THE GAME AND EDIT THE SAVEGAMES???)

BUT I AM STUCK AGAIN 7 TURNS LATER, WITH THE SAME S***,
I made a diplomatic crises after which egypt declared war on me- edited my $ to bribe almost everybody to declare war on egypt!!! But everytime peace treaties are signed- i.e. AI gets back 2 normal building/movement patterns I get STUCK (grrrr :ar15: :aargh3: )

HELP- PAAAATCH !!!!!

Hey,

I have been getting a civilization3.e.exe error almost everytime I run the game now. I didn't have any problems before, but don't know what may have started causing this error to occur.

When this message pops up, it says the game needs to be restarted. I have installed both patches released by firaxis/infogrames.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Viv

Originally posted by mister blaster
Hey,

I have been getting a civilization3.e.exe error almost everytime I run the game now. I didn't have any problems before, but don't know what may have started causing this error to occur.

When this message pops up, it says the game needs to be restarted. I have installed both patches released by firaxis/infogrames.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Viv


I have had this problem, though mine is just civilization3.exe, no extra e. I THINK it may be related to mutual protection pacts. I'm going to try that theory out sometime, whenever school isn't trying to kill me.

Is yours caused when you attempt to go to war with another civ? I am the Americans, trying to declare war on the Japanese. The error box pops up, and the game crashes to the desktop. This is different from other horror stories, because I am the one that's starting the war, NOT the AI.

Firaxis emailed me a while back, telling me that they aknowledged this problem, and are working on it. Keep emailing them though, that's the only way they'll fix it.

Btw, I now have 1.21f installed, and this has happened with every single patch so far. I just open up the same saved game and try it on every patch, with the same result.

Zozz

Installed the 1.21 patch... now when I double click the Civ3 icon nothing happens other than a bit of hard drive noise, no error message, but equally no game!

Yes I own a genuine CD

Yes I have tried totally uninstalling and re-installing.

The game runs fine until I install the patch...

Running WinXP

Every time I try to load my game I get this bullsh*t

Fatal ERROR:
unable to allocate draw-buffer; terminating program


I'm bout ready to explode
:mad:

Hi,

I've been reading most of this thread and found people with similar problems to mine. The game crashes every time I take diplomatic action or when a city revolts, comes back to normal and revolts again. This happens mostly after several thousand years of playing.

:crazyeye:

Game-years, of course...

One other thing, I own an international version of Civ3 and there are no patches available. Does anyone know if there will be any? Does anyone care? Should I go back to playing Civ2?

Please help... :(

Wow the msconfig thing actually helped! thanks sk0tie :)

What the hell is the point of a patch that promises tons of fixes and speed enhancements if it causes the freakin game to lock up or crash for a dozen different reasons every time you try to run it !?!?!

1.21f Sucks a BIG One... And from what I can see of all the complaints in here, it looks like your 1.17 patch was just as crappy.

You guys at Firaxis/Infograms/Whatever should either go back to college and retake to programming classes you slept through.

Or better yet, why not just go to work for Bill Gates. He also releases software that should have never gotten out of Beta. Then he lets his customers do all the troubleshooting of his crappy products for him.

Sound familiar...?

Ok, here's the deal. I have never had Civ3 crash on me from opening the box the day it was released through 1.16f or 1.17f. Last week I reinstalled and updated to 1.21f. I played for over 20 hours no problem. In the past three days, every time I play, it locks up. I load my auto-saved game, do to the crash, and about 5-10 min later...Lock up. I disabled sound, updated all my drivers, ran windows update, and still no dice. I even uninstalled and reinstalled. So I am somewhat discouraged with an excellent product I never had problems with.

My system config follows (taken from DXDiag):

Win XP Pro (5.1 build 2600)
PIII 700 Mhz
384 Mb RAM
Directx 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
Geforce2 GTS/Pro 64 Mb vers. 6.13.10.2832
SB Live! Sound Card (latest Driver)

Any help would be appreciated...Thanks again.:(

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lunlupus
[B]Also have a freeze up if one of my jets flying "rule the skies", or whatever that is, actually intercepts an enemy fighter...BANG...froze up solid. I *think* that is what is occurring since when I take the jet out of rule the skies mode the freeze no longer occurs and the enemy fighter merrily bombs away at me. :crazyeye:

I also have experienced the freeze up when my fighter tries to shoot down an enemy plane. (v1.21f)

I know there was a problem in earlier versions with human players not being able to successfully perform air superiority missions. This was supposedly taken care of by an earlier patch. I'm curious if this is a relapse of that problem or something entirely different.

Is Firaxis aware of the problem?...any progress toward a fix?

Sk0tie & Dan: Thanks for the help so far! It's greatly appreciated. :goodjob:

Originally posted by W.i.n.t.e.r



Ok- I managed to around the problem this time- BY CHEATING (THIS IS RIDICULUS- I DID EVERYTHING SINGLEHANDEDLY AND NOW THIS IS THE ONLY WAY, TO HACK THE GAME AND EDIT THE SAVEGAMES???)

BUT I AM STUCK AGAIN 7 TURNS LATER, WITH THE SAME S***,
I made a diplomatic crises after which egypt declared war on me- edited my $ to bribe almost everybody to declare war on egypt!!! But everytime peace treaties are signed- i.e. AI gets back 2 normal building/movement patterns I get STUCK (grrrr :ar15: :aargh3: )

HELP- PAAAATCH !!!!!

you now, that sounds exactly like the problem i am having. The game randomly crashes at 650 BC. Except the fix is the opposite - if I declare war then the game does NOT crash. 7 or 8 turns later... CRASH.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=23468

basically a sound fx (birds money) plays over and over untill it overloads the computer and causes shutdown so far 3 people, but im guessing its no new news

To SKOtie:
Why Infrogrames Team never thought of including Brazilians as a civ? If Vikings and other weird people were included why not Brazilians?(Amazon Women for instance)
Shirannybl

Originally posted by Shirannybl
To SKOtie:
Why Infrogrames Team never thought of including Brazilians as a civ? If Vikings and other weird people were included why not Brazilians?(Amazon Women for instance)
Shirannybl

Because they're nuts.

I don't know whether this has already been mentioned (tried searching with various keywords, didn't find), but here goes:

Version: 1.21f

Bug description: The AI does not check whether a city location can actually support a city before founding one.

Background:

Normally this is not an issue as the city square always produces at least two food which is enough for one citizen, so as per standard rules there is no need for a check.

However, last weekend I was building my scenario "Empires of Sand", which is based on the core idea of there being one huge desert with scattered oases and one big navigable river (e.g. like Egypt and the Nile). The premise is that civilizations are _supposed_ to fight for the fertile special locations and leave the desert an uninhabited hostile no-man's land. To force this I reduced the desert food output to zero. However, the AI:s didn't comply to my wishes :). Instead they started building huge numbers of size1 cities in the desert which was possible because of the 2 food citysquare production.

To counter this I raised the food consumption per citizen to 3 modifying the fertile tile (grassland, plains, etc.) food output accordingly and everything seemed working fine. No cities in the desert except where they bordered more fertile tiles, which was ok.

But, but... when I later reviewed the history record I noticed that all of the AI civs kept trying to found cities in the desert. All game long and continously. Every desert city starved to death and disappeared at the same turn it was built, but the AI kept on trying wasting settlers and productions.

Shouldn't there be an AI check whether a location can support a city?

Keep posting this but no one seems to reply :cry:

Crash CIVILIZATION3 verursachte einen Teilungsfehler in Modul CIVILIZATION3.EXE bei 0
Posted this on the general board as well!

Installed the latest patch.

1100AD in democracy. Game very interesting.

Pressed return. A few Romans moved then...

CIVILIZATION3 verursachte einen Teilungsfehler in Modul CIVILIZATION3.EXE bei 0167:0042ef21.
Register:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=0042ef21 EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00662ec8 SS=016f ESP=00acf73c EBP=0000000b
ECX=00000000 DS=016f ESI=00000000 FS=0eb7
EDX=00000000 ES=016f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
f7 ff bf 01 00 00 00 03 e8 83 f9 01 7c 02 8b f9
Stapelwerte:
0000000a 00662ec8 0000ac28 00000007 027f0e7f 0000ac28 00568e3d 00662ec8 0000000a 0000ac28 004337bd 00000007 00000007 0066164c 00662ec8 00663d5c

Has anyone got a clue what the bloody hell is going on and what I may be able to do? (Windows 98 German version, 933mHz pentium 3)

Never had this problem before and my opinion of Civ 3 and it´s makers is slowly going through the floor

Don´t like to whinge but this is bloody irritating! (yes I know there is a thread for this but I got fed up on page 8 out of 15 )

Originally posted by Ihmotep
Every time I download a succession game and unzip it into my saves folder then try to load it in the game I get the following errors:

DataIO operation System Error: CULT
DataIO operation System Error: ESPN
DataIO operation System Error: ESPN
DataIO operation System Error: LEAD

PLEASE help me fix this so I can participate in succession games. other than that my game runs fine

Me too! Has anybody found a fixfor this yet?

This is frustrating as hell. I've had this game since mid-December, or so, bought it a wllyworld, for $40+tax, and although several game features have been rather annoying, it's never just kept hard-crashing before.


CIVILIZATION3 caused an invalid page fault in
module CIVILIZATION3.EXE at 0167:00403056.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=00403056 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=0087bf40 SS=016f ESP=00acf7a0 EBP=005cd7f8
ECX=0c113aec DS=016f ESI=0c113aec FS=377f
EDX=00001272 ES=016f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 80 3c 01 00 00 83 c1 58 8b 50 04 52 e8 f8 1b
Stack dump:
00000000 004063f7 00000000 0c113aec 0c113900 01e45c60 000014be 00000000 00515276 0087bf40 00acf804 0059c6cb ffffffff 004f17c7 0c1136e0 0c113aec


I have "keep random seed" turned off, because it kept crashing the last game I tried to play, figured I'd just keep trying stuff...and I have. 1.33 athlon, epox EP-8KTA+ board, 512 mb 133 mhz ram, onboard sound, I've tried about 4 different geforce drivers (geforce 2 mx/mx400, 32 mb ram), via 4in14.38 mb drivers (tried 21.81,21.83, 29.41, and 29.42...seems like i had a 28.xx series, too) gf drivers.
I have a 15" hewlett-packard s50 monitor.
Intel HAM v.90 56k modem.
DirectX 8.1, windoze 98se, 98lite install
Can anyone help?? PLZ???

******* won't take my d***** email address

Originally posted by 1297ad
This is frustrating as hell. I've had this game since mid-December, or so, bought it a wllyworld, for $40+tax, and although several game features have been rather annoying, it's never just kept hard-crashing before.


CIVILIZATION3 caused an invalid page fault in
module CIVILIZATION3.EXE at 0167:00403056.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=00403056 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=0087bf40 SS=016f ESP=00acf7a0 EBP=005cd7f8
ECX=0c113aec DS=016f ESI=0c113aec FS=377f
EDX=00001272 ES=016f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 80 3c 01 00 00 83 c1 58 8b 50 04 52 e8 f8 1b
Stack dump:
00000000 004063f7 00000000 0c113aec 0c113900 01e45c60 000014be 00000000 00515276 0087bf40 00acf804 0059c6cb ffffffff 004f17c7 0c1136e0 0c113aec


I have "keep random seed" turned off, because it kept crashing the last game I tried to play, figured I'd just keep trying stuff...and I have. 1.33 athlon, epox EP-8KTA+ board, 512 mb 133 mhz ram, onboard sound, I've tried about 4 different geforce drivers (geforce 2 mx/mx400, 32 mb ram), via 4in14.38 mb drivers (tried 21.81,21.83, 29.41, and 29.42...seems like i had a 28.xx series, too) gf drivers.
I have a 15" hewlett-packard s50 monitor.
Intel HAM v.90 56k modem.
DirectX 8.1, windoze 98se, 98lite install
Can anyone help?? PLZ???

Are you sure your running with the latest patch - 1.21? This type of error was common in earlier versions.

My similar problem (above) ONLY appeared after I had installed 1.21.

So, I suppose no one has any ideas...........no, I thought not :spank:

I must say that had it not been for all the file sharing programs out there in the world firaxis would not have gotten a sale for this wonderful game.

In my house i make a point to test drive every car before i drive them and to sample c.d.'s in order to not buy one hit wonders when it comes to music. as well as download pirated copies of games and make sure they are playable more then once.(been burned way too many times on games i get bored with fast)... Firaxis has made a great game here so i bought myself a legit copy even though i could have played this game illegally for ever. My point is this WHY ISN'T there a DEMO version of this game?

I like to support companies that create great games in order to encourage them to make more. I really hate the road of finding myself a illegit copy in order to find out if the game is all it claims to be.


This subject came to my mind while i was reading page 2 of this thread when the discussion of bypassing the security on the game.


Good job Firaxis now for the multiplayer version please please please:goodjob:

Not sure if this is a patch issue or a game issue, but on my most recent game the "View Spaceship" screen stopped working after the last piece of the ship was built. When I hit F10 to launch, the screen will halt for a few seconds, the hard drive will run, and then the game proceeds as before without showing the spaceship view. All victory conditions have been enabled, so that's not the issue.

Anyone have any clue as to what's going on? I haven't run into problems with the game for seven months now. I've got the 1.21f patch. Specs on my computer can be provided, but it doesn't appear to be any kind of driver problem, since everything else works normally. :(

Originally posted by CoolLizy
Hi! I was hoping you could help me out. First, my basic system specs:

- 350 AMD Processor
- 126mb of Memory
- Windows 98
- 32mb AGP video card

Okay, here's the problem. I'm sure it has o do with the fact my ol' motherboard is about to give out... Anyhow, I'll be playing just fine and dandy for awhile when the drum-like conformation sound begins to repeat endlessly, usually while on the diplomatic screen. After this, the game usually locks-up within a few seconds or so.
Also, a related tidbit. If you start the game in a resolution below 1024x768, the game will reset the resolution like it should, but the task bar ends up floating around in the middle of the screen... Quite weird, anyhow.
Thanks in advance if someone help me out. :)


Coollizy The most common problem for a computer to respon like yours is DIRT,DUST ETC.ETC.

If you are alright with opening your own computer clean off your CPU heatsink and FAN (Don't worry happens to us all). DO NOT USE A VACCUUM!!!.. go get a compressed air can and it should blow all the dust outta there.

What is probally happening is that the CPU is overheating and in order to protect itself it shuts down b4 any real damage can be done.

You can also take it to a service shop and just have them clean it.. I would have a hard time doing this cause every time i walk into a computer store i spend too much money on upgrades.

Failing to do this can cause other parts of your computer to fail shortly after.. needs to be done soon

SO...I shouldn't blame Infogrames or Firaxis for that ****???
Let's talk about this "cool" 1.21 patch...
Multi bug fixed...Civ3 is JUST single player, so WHY fixing this bug???
THAT HURTS NOBODY ****ERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, before I forget it, the compatibility...CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
I'VE NEVER SEEN .S.U.C.H. A. .S.H.I.T. BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
And last, but not least, the SUPER support of Infogrames...
Listen..Perhaps, you live behind the moon, but the whole world konws, that Infogrames' "support" is !S!H!I!T!
And the editor...Now, THAT'S the best of all...
"We wanted to create an easy to use tool, whch could create playable and enyoable maps for the fans..."
Soooooooooooooooo.....really?????????
Without a minimap?
:rotfl: :rocket2:
O.K., perhaps I was too critical, but with SUCH A STRATEGY, you won't have fans anymore.


:(

O.K., when the next game is better, I promise, I won't blame you.

I know, I know, this sort of post has cropped up a million times, and I didn't want to have to ask again, but I'm left with little choice now.

I just bought myself a new and faster computer--an HP loaded with XP--and I'm excited about playing the game on a much faster system.

Of course, that's not really feasible right now. Th egame loads fine,and even generates the world fine, but as soon as I click to shut the "you have risen" screen to begin the game, it just plain shuts down. No crash, just no CivIII...

I've spent the majority of the week looking through this forum, trying various fixes, to no avail. It may be that the fix is here somewhere, but I'm tired of a week's worth of digging through old posts...

HELP ME PLEASE!

Civ 3 locks up when an fighter defends agaist me attacking thier city.

There are others who have this same problem, the only way to get out is to cntrl alt dlt, I totally reinstalled civ 3 and the saved game still had this same problem.

Everything else seems perfect, I dont know if this has to do with the new patch because I just started playing the game after months of owning it.

Help would be really nice because i cant play this game if this is going to happen, bombers seems too important a unit not to use :(

BTW im using the newest patch. I have no problems with any games, and I have alot!

I honestly cannot solve this font problem. One thing I would like to poll amonst the individuals having font divide problems is the drive of their windows installation. I know that when I installed Windows XP I forgot that I had an NTFS drive already mapped and my whole map got messed up. So my windows partition ended up on drive "G". Good luck changing it now. :) A possible bug could be the font location is (semi) hard coded. Reason I think this is when your programming and you look to a location where nothing is you get 0. Hense divide by zero. Again I'm on an invisible limb here but I would like to hear back about the location of installs.

G:\Windows\
G:\Games\Civilization 3

pudd

OK. Somehow, it works...thankfully!

Here's what:

I didn't upgrade any drivers, there were none available.
I simply changed my refresh rate from 60 to 75 hz...and while it didn't work right away, I think it helped.

I used the selective startup in msconfig, eliminating all items from my startup group FIRST:

Then, uninstalled and reinstalled Civ III, after which it played fine. Then I installed the patch, and it played fine again. It should be noted that I rebooted between each install and uninstall step, and actually played the game in a clean "no startup items" environment, created by msconfig.

GL, all!

Hi all,
I just downloaded the latest patch (1.29f english), but it won't install. I have the original game, no bloody copy. The installed version is 1.07. :)
When I try to install the update, it says "The file civ3v129f.exe is linked to the missing export-GDI32.DLL.DeleteDc".
Is the download file broken, or is something in my Windows damaged? I have Win98SE installed on a PIII 600MHz, 192MB RAM, TNT2 video card, DirectX8.1 installed. I recently had some problems with spyware but have deleted them all with Ad-Aware.
Thanks,
Camthalion

The thing had been working just fine with no apparent errors of any kind. A previous game played through to the end with no problems. This game was working fine but can not get to the year 1500. At the end of 1495 the game crashes - just stops.
I have saved right up to the end and the last thing that happens is a Persian caravel moves and then ...........
There is apparently no way around it. There have been no changes made to the system.
It is xp pro but again there have been no problems of any sort and no changes at all have been made to it.
I am using 1.21.
Nor are there any messages whatsoever.

however 1.29 did work and amazingly it is now the year 1500!

ooh my god... thank you... u have no idea how many problems that fixed before the game ran very slow... but now well its just amazing... thank's again

When i start any game and as soon as I build my first city the game sais there was a error and will close....:cry: So basically i cant play civ 3 :( :( ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRICIATED AND PLEASE TRY TO MAKE IT SOON IM DYIN TO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Game running along smoothly. Then in 1090, I get to the end of my turn, hit the end turn button, and then I crash to the desktop with an invalid page fault in Civilization.exe

I've tried all sorts of drivers, have upgraded to Win XP Pro, and tried doing different things before the end of the turn -- nothing is preventing me from getting this error, however, and I cannot continue my game.

This also happened in a previous game of mine.

This is happening with Patch 1.29f. I have never had any problems before this patch.

I've attached my save game file -- if someone could load it and see if it works on their computer, then we know it's a problem with my computer and not the save game file or the patch itself.

I know that, compared to other bugs in this thread, this is fairly minor.

Anyways, when I load Civ3, the opening movie plays fine (i.e. displays smoothly), but the sound stutters. Also, during game play, there are various artifacts that I can hear repeatedly. The artifacts can be fixed by fiddling with the PCI latency timer in the bios, but the stuttering in the opening movie is still there.

I have that latest patch for the game (1.29f I think).

I have the GeForce4 Ti 4200 with the latest omega drivers and the SB Audigy Platinum with the latest audigy drivers.

As I said above, I have tried fiddling with the PCI latency timer, but that doesn't affect anything with the intro movie.

I am running WinXP Pro.

The opening movie plays fine on my older computer (PII 266 w/ WinMe).

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Here is my system info (using Windows 98):

System:
Processor/Speed - Intel Pentium III, ~447MHz
Total System Memory - 192 MB RAM
DirectX Version - DirectX 8.1

Display:
Video Card Name - NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420
Manufacturer - NVIDIA
Approx. Total Memory - 64.0 MB

Sound:
Sound Card Name - Game Compatible Device (emulated)
Manufacturer - 1


When I attempt to play Civ III, it freezes at the Infogrames Logo Screen. Once it made it to the Firaxis Logo Screen before it froze. Please help!!!

This isn't a severe problem, but is certainly not convenient.

You know when you put the mouse over a 'hyperlink' which leads to the civilopedia and it turns into a hand? (Or atleast the manual says it does that) Well my cursor doesn't! It just disappears until I move it away from the link. I look in the Civ3/Art/ Directory and founf the cursors image, but the hand wasn't in there! There were four empty spaces. I think one is meant to have the hand. Could someone please send me their cursors file (actually called Cursor.pcx in the Art directory) to fix this?

[Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why can´t I run Civ3 on this computer, I start the game and Play for somthing between 10-30 minutes and then it stops. If I press Ctrl+Alt+Delete I get the message the computer doesn’t answer


This is my system configuration.

System Information
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Time of this report: 9/12/2002, 16:38:04
Machine name: MADS-91UOYYPTIP
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclnt_qfe.010827-1803)
Language: Danish (Regional Setting: Danish)
System Manufacturer: System Manufacturer
System Model: System Name
BIOS: ASUS - 42302e31
Processor: AMD Duron(TM)Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~1211MHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 169MB used, 1081MB available
Primary File System: n/a
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.0000 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No input devices detected.
No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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Hi all

I had the original version 1.07
I only installed an optical mouse for my PC
Eversince, Civ3 crashed and my PC rebooted by a simple mouse movement. All other games work perfectly fine.
Going back to my old mechanical mouse solved the problem.

Any luck here?
Thx

I too have an optical mouse (IntelliMouse Explorer from MS) and Civ3 frequently locks up on me, or will just go really really slow while playing the game. Then after a few moments, everything is back to normal. I'm wondering if Firaxis' has a problem with their implementation of DirectX calls that involve optical mice AND with the copyright protection schemes on the Civ3 CDROM? Maybe the DirectX calls get mangled by those two freakin' piece of crap "copyright protection" files that are checked against the Civ3 CDROM. I really hate all this copyright BS. Why not go after the real pirates - the Chinese - and leave us Americans who pay for our products alone. Geez!!!

First of all, thank you Scotie and Dan for your help on this forum.

I've downloaded de latest patch, v.29f I think, but after installing It, when I try tu run the game, I get a "game CD" error, like I didn't have the CD placed on the CD driver. I own an original copy, and the PC is a brand new P4, with a LG DVD drive.

I thing it might have something to do with my copy being spanish. Is the patch only designed for the US version of the game?

Does anyone know anything about this?

Thank you very much.

When i try to load a scenario it goes perfectly fine until the dialogue box saying what your civilizations is eg; Militaristic and Scientific and the free techs the game crashes without any warnings or error messages, plz help me :confused:

I have had the same problem with the game crashing listing an IPF at 0167 (win98se) dating back to when i first baught the game last January 2001. Tech support has been hurrendous in helping and quite frankly im sick of them. They always say the same thing, ie. update this update that, blah blah blah..its all BS! Nothing worked so i gave up. Then the new Patches came out i had new hope..guess what..still crashes at the end of my turn after my cities produce. So i decided to load the game on my other computer...WOW you know what..it crashed in the same way after like 100 turns at the end of a turn. I called tech support and told them..they said did you upgrade this n that? What BS! I have the same crash on 2 different computers completely in 2 different games in 2 different years! Both after like 100 turns or more.
Well i upgraded to win 2000 pro Uninstalled civ. Installed the brand new cd they sent me for 10 dollars installed the latest 1.29 patch.(yes all the latest drivers!) Played a brand new game(since the old saves crashed still!) and guess what? A crash back to the desktop in the year 290 BC after over 100 turns. Tech support asked all the same friggin questions! I asked them to load my game and run it sent them the game sav file and my rules. HE hasnt done it yet..claims he has been very busy with other problems...hmm...seems to me tech support cant help with anything thats actually technical? The problem is a poorly written editor and the game was sold before the bugs were out of it?
Anyway I have an excellent game id like to be able to finish but cant! How frustrating. Been getting the same TEch run around for 9 Months..they cant help?
This crash is back to Windows 2000 Desktop at the end of a turn. I am posting after reading of the SAME problem some of you are having. It seems to me we all have Athlons and most of US have the Nvidia too..Is that the problem? Or is the game flawed?

at least you got a reply for techsupport I didn´t

Petetus wrote:

v.29f patch error
First of all, thank you Scotie and Dan for your help on this forum.

I've downloaded de latest patch, v.29f I think, but after installing It, when I try tu run the game, I get a "game CD" error, like I didn't have the CD placed on the CD driver. I own an original copy, and the PC is a brand new P4, with a LG DVD drive.

I thing it might have something to do with my copy being spanish. Is the patch only designed for the US version of the game?

Does anyone know anything about this?

Thank you very much.


__________________

I have the same problem. I hit the Civ icon, and a pop-up error appears like the CD is not in the drive.
The game starts eventually when I open/close cd drive repeatedly and launch the game from the autorun off the CD.
still, would be nice to click once and have it run.

Also, first thing the game does it automatically change my resolution. It that what it should do?

thanks

Thanks Sk0tie for your help here.

Just wondering are you aware of any patch that InfoGames are working on to fix issues with GameSpy? According to GameSpy tech support

"I have checked with the programmers, the game maker has failed to implemenmt
the proper technology. At this time, the game is not playable on GameSpy Arcade
until they have made further changes.

Christine Henderson
GameSpy Customer Service-Technical Support
http://www.gamespy.com"

btw ... I think the game is great. I am not having issues with the game except for the occassional sound blip. I can live with it. However when I tried to host a game on GameSpy it crashed Windows XP SP1 and took a while to recover.

My Specs:

Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
-- Version 5.0.2195 Service Pack 3 Build 2195

Processor x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~933 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 523,740 KB

DirectX 8.1

Civ3 1.29f patch installed
Civ3 PTW 1.04f patch installed

Mouse Microsoft Intellamouse

I do not have any of the issues which the above users have. But, did you guys INSTALL the damn drivers that came w/ the mouse? If you did Uninstall them. In my experiance the Drivers designed for this mouse have messed up my system performance and functionality. To use the mouse simply plug it in, and let your computer Plug & play with defualt drivers. this solved many of my issues with the mouse, includeing a similar one. This advice is based of experiance from about 8 months ago.

OS & Civ3 Specs:

Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
-- Version 5.0.2195 Service Pack 3 Build 2195

Processor x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~933 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 523,740 KB

DirectX 8.1

Civ3 1.29f patch installed
Civ3 PTW 1.04f patch installed

Governor Issue (Background):

Recently, (about a month before PTW came out) I re-installed Civ3, and I noticed I could let the Governor Keep track of City mood status for the first time ever. Woo! So I began using it, and was VERY satisfied with the results. HOWEVER Civ3 PTW has a BUG in this Governor Feature!!

Bug Description:

Randomly, the Civ3 PTW Governor will allow a City to go into Civil Disorder, it doesn't happen to often, but it happens at least 20 or 30 times per game I have played.

Not ONLY does it let the City go into Civil Disorder, it KEEPS the city in this state, instead of changing the population to take it OUT of civil disorder.

The ONLY way to get the city back to non-civil disorder status, is to lick the city in the city screen & say "yes let me manually manage this city" or w/e, once you do, click the city again, and as norrmally happens when you do this all the citizens pop to the right locations.

After that you may turn the governor back on, and it will function properly again. Please fix this most annoying bug.

**update** I have had the governor switch the city back to a Civil Dissorder citizen layout after doing this, twice on my capital city.



ALSO

Could we get a patch to add a "Build Military Improvements" option to the production manager of the City Governor? That would be nice, the City Governor will never build them otherwise. (e.g. Barracks, SAMS, coastal fortress etc.)

One more thing, WHY WHY WHY does my governor INSIST on trying to replace my nice non-polluting, Solar Plants with COAL plants and Nuclear plants?! I do NOT understand this; could you make a flag system to specify when a improvement should not be replaced, or to show an order of worth? So that a coal plant would be ranked say a hydro plant or a solar plant?. tnx! ~Q

I tried disabling the 3rd party applications, but it did not work. I still cannot load the game properly. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do. Email me at Bprax@aol.com.

I installed AOL 8 and it fixed ALL of the problems I was having. This is nice because you can pick up the AOL 8 cds for free at Home Depot. So the fix was easy and free. Life is good.

Help! When playing Civ3, I ocassionally get an error called"text\Pedialcons.txt":Won_Splash_30
What is this. I have tried a couple of different games and they always seem to shut down. Thanks for the help

I have been playing a Large all-civ Chieftain (yes I suck) game. The game gets slower and slower the farther I get into the game until I can (and do) bring up a Game Boy Advance to play while certain things are loading! AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN-TURN TIMES!!! THIS IS IN MY TURN:mad:! It all came to a head when I tried to save and the game froze!:mad:


I have a Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1202,
ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP 2x (with an ATI Rage Pro monitor...)
Yamaha DS-XG Legacy Sound System
Logitech mouse (with the rounded scrolling cylinder and a wire)
Dell QuietKey keyboard
Intel Celeron
64 megs of RAM

reinstall error
Hey, I am experiencing a problem reinstalling Civ 3. I recently installed the game on my new cpu. I was having a few bugs, and decided that I had downloaded too many maps/patches/crap from the website.

I uninstalled the game and everything ran fine, it said that the uninstall was successful. When I went to reinstall, it runs the installshield but then pops up a window that says "Do you want to remove the selected application of all its components?" I said yes, thinking that something was left behind. It then runs a quick check then tells me that maintenance is complete.

I checked and couldn't find a trace of the game on my hard drive. On the add/remove files option under My Computer, it tells me that Civ 3 is still there, a 1.3MB file. I try to delete it but it won't work.
also i had the out of range problem and fond someone posted run with 75 herts on 1024*768 runs perfect now this

reinstall error
Hey, I am experiencing a problem reinstalling Civ 3. I recently installed the game on my new cpu. I was having a few bugs, and decided that I had downloaded too many maps/patches/crap from the website.

I uninstalled the game and everything ran fine, it said that the uninstall was successful. When I went to reinstall, it runs the installshield but then pops up a window that says "Do you want to remove the selected application of all its components?" I said yes, thinking that something was left behind. It then runs a quick check then tells me that maintenance is complete.

I checked and couldn't find a trace of the game on my hard drive. On the add/remove files option under My Computer, it tells me that Civ 3 is still there, a 1.3MB file. I try to delete it but it won't work.
also i had the out of range problem and fond someone posted run with 75 herts on 1024*768 runs perfect now this

I need someones help with my copy of Civilization III. I got this game last Christmas (2001) and I immediately ran into problems with it saying "Out of Range" when I attempted to load the game. My monitor would just go blank and I would get that stupid error message. I'd still have music in the background so the game apparently loads but my screen was blank. So somewhere in there I talked to Infogrames and they, after a lot of attempts, helped me figure out what to fix and the game worked fine for a while. I then installed a patch about a year after and I was all messed up again.

Civ III is apparently supposed to operate with a resolution of 1024x768 pixels but I only have a monitor that works at 800x600. I tried Infogrames suggested fix, adding the line "Refresh=60" to the Civilization3.ini file but it had no real effect. Now I check out the readme file for the game and it tells me to try these various lines;

"KeepRes=1 - When set to 1, your desktop resolution will be what the game uses. 1024x768 screens will be centered, but you will be able to see much more of the map on one screen.

*NoSound=1 - Disables all sound in-game.
*Video Mode=1792 / Video Mode=1600 / Video Mode=1280 / Video Mode=1152 - Force screen resolution to one of these settings."

Anyway, I attempted to follow their advice by adding "KeepRes=1" to my Civilization III ini file and even "Video Mode=1792". I experimented with these add ons to the file and was able to get the game to load up but now the title screen pops up and is way to large for my little monitor. Can anyone help me figure out how I can shrink this thing down to fit on my screen? I know this game will work with my computer and monitor, I've had it working before.

goto display properties
sittings
set it to 1024 x 768
then click advance
monitor
and set refresh rate at 75 herts


i had the same problem for the same amount of time and about 2 weeks ago i found that some one posted this somewhere on this site so thank him

and by the way id uninstall then load it again
DONT Reinstall

Hi, thanks for the advice but I really can't change the resolution my monitor works at. I tried changing my resolution to 1024x768 and my monitor blanked out and I had a heck of a time getting my monitor to work again. It doesn't look like changing the resolution is an option for me. Can anyone help me? See above message for what my problem is. I'll give you more information about my computer if that's what you need.

Phil

try just changing the refresher rate to 75 hertz
if that doesn't work then try different herts
but like i said i had the same problem on the other hand i can chage the res so i dont know if cnging the refresher rate and only the refresher rate will work because as u can see from my new problem i cant play the game


do u have the correct monitor installed?
they say it doesnt work on plug n play or default as my comp. is but the above post is how i fixed mine
im no expert but try playing around with the refresher rates or install ur monitor again

Man you would think after the fiasco with the first civ3 that Play the world would work perfectly...aarrrgghh anyhow i can start a civ and the play for awhile..the farthest i have gotten is 1400 AD. The i get a civ3 has caused an error blahblah... I have upgraded all files, even tried new installs etc, hertz and othe video stuff.

This is what i see at first
AppName: civilization3x.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: civilization3x.exe
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 001c685a

Here is my system

Operating System System Model
Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (build 2600) No details available
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
1333 megahertz AMD Athlon
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: SiS-730
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG 07/06/2001
Drives Memory Modules
120.53 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
84.83 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

LITE-ON LTR-16102B [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

MAXTOR 6L060J3 (60.04 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive 1
WDC WD205BA (20.53 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive 0
WDC WD400AB-00CMB0 (40.02 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive

I hope someone can help me..I really want to play :)

Thanks in advance
gregg

oh yeah and 512 megs of RAM...oops

I have been playing Civ3 for several months. Everything is fine.. I recently (last week) downloaded the latest Civ3 patch. NO, not the PTW patch. Since then I keep getting error mesages midway thru my games.

CIVILIZATION3 caused an invalid page fault in
module CIVILIZATION3.EXE at 018f:00403046.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=018f EIP=00403046 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=005c5818 SS=0197 ESP=00abfaa8 EBP=01570eb0
ECX=0b42ea4c DS=0197 ESI=0b42ea4c FS=3347
EDX=00003128 ES=0197 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 80 3c 01 00 00 83 c1 58 8b 50 04 52 e8 38 71
Stack dump:
00000000 004063e3 00000000 0b42ea4c 0087442a 0b42e8e0 00000002 00000000 00589bc0 005c5818 ffffffff 0dd88520 00abfb84 00592afb ffffffff 004070e9

I am running W98, 256 megs of ram, 750 athlon processor. Any help out there?

Thank you

Doomo

HELP! Is this one of those fixable problems? I built the Alpha Centauri spaceship in Civ3(all 10 parts!). I wanted to launch it, but couldn't figure out how to get to the progress/launch screen. Then I realized that the little S button in the lower right corner means Spaceship Progress. But when I click it, nothing happens! Like I said, HELP! Please email me at starlingsrealm@hotmail.com. Thanks!

Are you sure the spaceship victory was turned on?

CivIII works great! except for the end of EVERY turn, where there is a 15minute pause. The thing keeps playing music, but the map is no longer scrollable, the white direction arrows disappear, and all I can do is wait (I'm waiting right now). It's not a driver issue I don't think, the problem was there before I upgraded to the latest nVidia drivers (I was not using Detonators before), the sound is working fine, I've tried before and after patches, before and after expansion installation (I bought both at the same time...stupid me) but its the same every time. Please help. Tech support hasn't gotten back to me...I bought the US version in Canada (is this a problem?).


I'm running a PIII 1GHZ, with 128MB RAM (performance is not an issue...the pause is an idle period), and plenty of free space.

Originally posted by bluenose
reinstall error
Hey, I am experiencing a problem reinstalling Civ 3. I recently installed the game on my new cpu. I was having a few bugs, and decided that I had downloaded too many maps/patches/crap from the website.

I uninstalled the game and everything ran fine, it said that the uninstall was successful. When I went to reinstall, it runs the installshield but then pops up a window that says "Do you want to remove the selected application of all its components?" I said yes, thinking that something was left behind. It then runs a quick check then tells me that maintenance is complete.


I have the exact same problem when I try to re-install CIV3 (vanilla) on XP. Strangely enough it works on ME. Can someone please help me how to fix it? I removed all CIV entries in the registry already...

hi i have this problem
ok firstly where do i download PTW to?
to the infograms directory or...?
because currently i have 2 options/icons
one(the old civ3 icon) and next(the new PTW icon)
isit meant to b like this?or shouldnt the PTW files auto attach to the civ3 files?

and theres this thing..i aint sure if its a bug or otherwise
i can only "talk" to other civilizations by contactinig the leader of a unit....i can no longer talk with other civs by going to the F4 screen n double clicking...the game would go into illegial operation when i try to leave the negeotiation screen..not so when i use the first method

and another thing still:(
my game "closed" when it cant find the middle ages.ini file to load...
thats why i suspect i probably downloaded PTW to a wrong directory..or did i?
pls help..

My Civ III crashes. There seems to be a loop that is messing things up. It runs very slow and then crashes. I have been in touch with the Civ III folks who were very helpful but it still is sick. I have COMPLETELY uninstalled, cleared out the startup folder with msconfig, undone everything in the CTR-ALT-DEL thingy. It still has cyberflatulence. Someone suggested I reinstall Win 98 and clean off the disk. I would rather not 'cause I have a bunch of priceless photos to archive and put on my CDRW first. I have Norton 2002 and use it religiously (how can using Norton be religious?).

Could I have some malware damage I do not know about?

Does anyone else have such a %^&$$#@ plight?

I want to conquer the world again!

Si

I have been working with josh for about 2 months. We cannot get the program running at all. He has given up and offered to exchange the game for another game, but I do not want another game. I have seen people talking about a no cd version of the game available through your company. Please let me know how I can get this version. I want to be able to play PTW. With the latest "fix" the game does not even start anymore. Please help me. You can reach me most easily at Bprax@aol.com.

Thank you in advance.

Bret P

good day to you all

After recieving Civ3 PTW for x-mass i've still not managed to play it once (now nearly 3 weeks sob sob), the game installed without any problems but when i start the game it crashes back to the desktop but unlike most of the other posts here it does not get as far as the intro movie ( i have tried deleting it but still get the crash).

All i get is a black screen then the desktop with the win XP error message "civlisation3x.exe has encountered an error and needs to close"

i have changed my monitor driver
installed the latest patches
updated both sound and video drivers and got all recent windows updates

my computer specs are
Win XP PRO
Athlon 1800XP
K7VTA2 motherboard
512 DDR ram
over 40 GIG free HDD space (recently defragged)
32x CDROM
Nvidia MSI TI4600 Gcard
128 Soundblaster PRO

any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Have a most pleasant day
Dave

Welcome one and all

in response to my last post, i believe the problem with my cv ptw not starting could be due to it not finding the civ3 files from the original game.

i copied all the civ3 folders (art scenario ect) to the ptw folder and it got a lot futher into loading than in normally does.

i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the CIV3 again but no luck.

if any1 knows any way i could force ptw to find the files it would be welcomed, or if any one knows if i culd juct copy the required files to the ptw directory that would also be apprecited.

any insight on this that resloves the problem would greaty cheer me up

Good day to you all
Dave

Hi, I posted this question before and didn't get any responses....so I hoped I would get one here.....since it seems this is the place to go for problems. I keep getting this error when I try to load any new saves past a certain date...... "DataIO system operation error: CITY" And when I've loaded up an old save and then from that screen tryed to load the new ones it does the same thing however the game opens everything up like I can play it except there are no citys on the map.......can anyone help me here? I've tried re-installing it and even uninstalling but nothing works.......could the game have a gliche and I have to get a new one????? Thank you for any and al help.

Justinian II

when I launch the program I get the "loading" window, few seconds later the screen becomes blank, and than I'm shifted back to windows with the resolution of the video card set to 1024X768 (even if the resolution before was different). The application bar remains in the initial position and size, and the program is blocked.
My computer is a PII 350 with mainboard Asus P2B 320Mb ram and a Matrox G200 Agp video card. I have a monitor SONY CPD-100ES, the OS is win98.
I'm running Adaptec Direct CD V. 3.0.
I tried to load the program after having unloaded every resident program I have (such as anti virus etc..) except the Direct CD, and after having set the resolution to 1024X768. I tried to launch it after having downloaded the latest versions both of directx (9) and of my video card's driver. Of course I did not fix the problem.
I've discovered that the files on crash are: igl.dll sound.dll mss32.dll binkw32.dll and civilization3.exe.
The dxdiag fails the testfor Directx 8 with all the trivers that i've been able to find on the net.
Is there anything else I can do? do you know where can I find a good new driver?

I received PTW for Christmas and found this in the readme file -

"NOTE: AOL users will find it difficult to join multiplayer games and impossible to host games. AOL is currently working on changes to make on-line gaming easier. Contact AOL as to current status and workarounds."

Needless to say, I contacted AOL and got zero response. Does anyone know what this is about and when this will be fixed. I bought this game for MP and have not yet been able to enjoy it.

When I go to load a game in civ 3 it goes to about 3% and then comes up with the message "DatalO system error:GAME". Then it says "unable to read file C:program files/civilization III/saves/" etc.
And when I go to start a new game it does the same thing but it doesn't come up with any messages.
When I go to laod a scenario it says "cannot load file the file may be corrupt!".

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

can anyone help me! CIV3 IS MY FAVOURITE GAME BUT NOW IT WON'T WORK AT ALL!:cry: :help:

i use the patch 1.29v and the game will crash on my second or third move of the game....?? i always use civ edit to make a new senario and i always make a new govt.and civilization .....but when i play it on the second or third move it just exits the game...WTF...HELP ME ....

Can you give more information, like what you added? If it's a new unit, and the game can't find the directory/graphics, it will crash.

I've been reading through these posts to no avail. i don't even get as far as the CIV splash screen. I getthe Safedisc/Macrovision screen, the screen goes blank, changes resolution, goes blank again then changes resolution back to normal, and I don't get any error messages either.

Civ was working fine up until two days ago. Never had a problem. The only thing I canthink of is that I installed the latest Nvidia drivers. I've changed them back and reinstalled Civ (after trying all the updates etc).

Just incase it's a help here's my details:

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: VT8367-8233
BIOS: VIA694 - 42302e31
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1399MHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 150MB used, 1100MB available
Primary File System: n/a
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.0000 32bit Unicode

Soundblaster Platinum : latest drivers as far as I'm aware
Nvidia Geforce4 MMX 440 : 3.0.8.2

I'm at my wits end. Please help!

:confused:

When I start up the civIII.... tha picture that looks like a castle appear, but the menu does not show up the menu(new game, load game, preferences, etc....)

I tried to install it, in another folder... it did appear... but in the game when I press any button in the keyboard the game go out.. and put me in the desktop....

I have Windows Xp
GeForce 4 Ti 42000
P4 1.6

Plzzz help me.. soon!!!!

I bought civ3 yesterday, after months of waiting...

BUT after the intro movie sequence, the screen just goes blank and I can't do anything! I can hear the music, but see no picture...

i haven't got internet at home yet... so i can't really download anything. the website here said i need to update my video drivers or something, but they should be good enough already - im running AMD 1gighz athlon, 128 RAM, Windows 2000.

What can I do??? This is so frustrating!!! Im just a poor student, itcost me $70 and I can't play it!

help!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=30397

fixes a crash with 1.29f at industrial age.

E.

The industrial crash is fixed? really? are you sure?

Well, it's fixed for me at least.

Try out the modifs I've posted. I'm interested in getting feedback, as I believe infogrames have made such a mess of this thing that your mileage may vary widely from one translation to another.

E.

PTW ISSUE:

I be having an issue trying to load saved games...If I try to load saved game and it has been 2 or more days since I have loaded it before Windows XP crashes and locks the my machine. The game loads to 73% then Crash!!! :(
error occurs in the civilization3x.exe

Note: this occures only on my own scenerio All I did was add a couple of units that's it I don't see how this would effect the game.

This is strange I was just playing the game before the weekend all week I would save the game everyday and I could access it now after the week end ..NOPE!!

I am a computer technician (5 years) and I can't figure this out...Does any body have any ideas on wha't going on and what I could do to prevent this from happening again..:confused:

Ive been getting this Out of snyc error...In the original Post here...Skotie says how to avoid this error...
If you encounter the "Out of Range" or "Out of Sync" message from your monitor, find out what type of monitor you have, and install the CORRECT .INF for your monitor. DO NOT use "Default" or "Plug and Play" driver from Microsoft, this is what is causing the problem. GO MICROSOFT!
However...I have no idea how to do this...I know my monitor...Hitachi CM801...

Funny thing about this Out of sync error...Im playing a Lan game with my brother...he NEVER gets this error...so it does lead me to believe its my monitor...and I ONLY get this error when bombing with one of my bombers...sum'in Id really not like to avoid if possible...:)

So...any help is greatly appreciated...:)

Well...disregaurd my above post...I have since found a way around it...I simply turned off battle animation...so the bombing run doesnt display anymore...not causing any out of sync error...:)

I get a really annoying problem. On a civilopedia link, I out the mouse over it and no cursor appears! It goes completely invislble.

I have a PII 400MHz, 32Mb Cougar NVidia Graphics, 128Mb RAM, 512kb Cache, Win95. The game always works perfectly fine, it's never crashed, I've had it for nearly a year now. But why doens't this cursor appear? Is it a problem with a dll in Windows or something????

Please help, I've posted twice and never got any replies.

It's only really an inconvenience though. It can't be my Graphics card, cause I changed it at Christmas. Still same prob.

Oh well, better not take it for granted, atleast I can still play Civ3!

Firaxis never give any good tech help though. Do they. They just give you a sheet on the most common probs, not your specific one. :(

I cannot get cruise missles onto my carriers. Do they have to be in a city? Also I have the scientific discoveries and still can't get nukes. What do you have to do to be able to build them? I have installed the latest patch but still no go with these issues. I run a 2.2 AMD, Geforce Ti4200 and 512 MB RAM.

Spent the last 2 days reading the posts and can't find anything like this:

Getting the lockups that are reported alot, seemingly random, but seems tied to autosave at end of turn. Can play for anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 hours before it freezes and I have to hard reboot. Tried it with autosave on and off, still happens.

After reboot I try to load last saved game, get 'DataIO operation System Error:Tile' , then 'Load Error- Error Reading File...(then it lists the savegame file). I can load the PREVIOUS savegame, but eventually (usually sooner rather than later) it locks up again. The lockups then seem more frequent.

I've started about 10 games so far so it's not just one corrupted game.

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.021108-1929)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: VT8363
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.2GHz
Memory: 510MB RAM
Page File: 111MB used, 1138MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0a (4.09.0000.0901)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0000.0901 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Previously: Crashed in DirectPlay (stage 1)

Any help is greatly appreciated.

here is my problem and any help would be greatly appriciated....

I am running on an IBM Aptiva, Windows 98, 6 gig hard drive with MSI monitor set at the right resolution.... (that's all I can remember about my computer's specs at the moment.... sorry)

Everytime I try to install the game it gets 70% of the way through before I receive an error box with 'ACE Error!' in the title bar and an ok button that after clicked, shuts the install down. How can I fix this? Thanks for your help in advance.

AhH! i just got a new CDRW Drive for my comp.......i also have a CDROM drive that civ3 works fine with.....now that one doesnt load(because of a dirty lens) and i am forced to use my CDRW drive. i tried to load it on there, and the autorun pops up...and then the splash pops up, and after that, it says "DRIVE READ ERROR Please Insert Civ3 Disc into CD Drive" with the options of RETRY and CANCEL i used a image maker and tried to burn an image of it...still wouldnt work! said it needed a CD....i use WINXP Pro and would greatly appreciate help!

I am planning to buy civ 3 but the problem is that i have an old monitor which can only display upto 800 by 600
My video card is quite updated supportng 1600 by 1200 at very high refresh rates
I want to know will i be able to play the game under 800 by 600
The game site strictly says 1024 by 768 . Has any member found a way to play it
Thanks in advance

Sometimes, for no apparent reason, my game will crash back to windows. I can always use the latest autosave, but it gets really annoying especially on long turns late in the game, where it only autosaves every turn. I think the disk may be scratched, but I'm not sure. If it is, how can I order a replacement disk, and how much does it cost? If something else is the problem, what can I do to fix it? I don't still have the proof of purchase, unfortunately.


System information:

Windows XP
1 gb of ram
2.0 ghz Pentium 4
Nvidia GeForce 4
I play civ3 on a 48x cdrom drive

sad to see sk0ti and Dan disappeared... wanted to ask wtf is wrong with the Egyptians in 1.29f, they are supposed to be industrious, but their workers take a bloody 4 turns to make roads >_>. Tell me why the other civs with the same trait get to finish a road in 2 turns.......................

Hi. I've just installed the PTW patch from CIV3.com (1.27) and it seems to have done strange things to my CD drive. The game runs okay without the patch but when it's installed everytime I try to run it says "Please enter CD and try again". Needless to say I have the CD in the drive. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Please refer to www.atarisupport.com (http://www.atarisupport.com/) for trouble-shooting information on all known issues with Civilization III and Civilization III Play the World.

sk0tie

:mad: Says error installing iKernel.exe(0xa00) What do I do?:cool:

Make sure you log in as an Administrator. Most games won't install for other users as the game was designed to be compatible with previous versions of Windows that did not have user permissions.

Click on the Start Menu and select Run. In the Run dialog box, clear any text that may be in the field and type MSCONFIG and click OK. In the System Configuration Utility, change the system to Selective Startup and uncheck Load Startup Items. Switch to the Services tab and check the Hide All Microsoft Services box. Uncheck any services left in the list and Apply the changes. Reboot your system when prompted.

Empty your Temporary directories. The files within these folders are safe to delete, and will not cause harm or loss of data to your personal files. The files located in these directories are miscellaneous files from installers and internet browsing. These two folders are in C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\ and are named "TEMP" and "Temporary Internet Files". Don't delete these folders, just delete everything inside them.

Clean the CD with warm water and use a cloth towel to dry it. Do not use any paper towels or abrasive products that may scratch it.

Right-click on the My Computer icon and go to Properties. Switch to the Hardware tab and then click the Device Manager button. Expand the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers tree, and double-click Primary IDE Channel. Switch to Advanced Settings and set the Transfer Mode on both devices to "DMA if available" and click OK to close the window. Do the same thing for the Secondary IDE Channel. Reboot after these changes are made.

Try installing the game directly off the CD and see if that does the trick. Open the My Computer Icon, right-click on the CDROM and select Explore. In here you will find Install.exe or Setup.exe. Double-click this and the installer should start.

If that doesn't work, try copying the game from the CD to your harddrive by creating a folder on your desktop and simply copy the files on the CD to the folder on your desktop. Once you have them on your harddrive, reboot your machine and install the game from the files on your harddrive via Setup.exe in that folder.

i cant load scenarios i got ptw and scenarios say file error

Ok, I'm hoping this is a relatively common problem so maybe someone could help. I have Windows XP on a Pentium Processor with all the gubbins.

Whenever I try to play the game it will go to the screen before the opening movie and then nothing will happen and I'll be stuck at windows.

It may be that my video card because that is the only thing that I can't verify as being compatible with the game but if this problem has happened to anyone else and they know what to do I would be grateful.

Matt

Originally posted by KingMattRoe
Ok, I'm hoping this is a relatively common problem so maybe someone could help. I have Windows XP on a Pentium Processor with all the gubbins.

Whenever I try to play the game it will go to the screen before the opening movie and then nothing will happen and I'll be stuck at windows.

It may be that my video card because that is the only thing that I can't verify as being compatible with the game but if this problem has happened to anyone else and they know what to do I would be grateful.

Are you referring to the game starting up and the movie plays then locks up (during the Infogrames Movie), or does the game crash and drop you back to your desktop?

System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 10/29/2003, 16:50:35
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclient.010817-1148)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: IBM
System Model: 2174590
BIOS: OEMID - 0
Processor: AMD-K7(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~548MHz
Memory: 352MB RAM
Page File: 115MB used, 738MB available
Primary File System: n/a
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.0000 32bit Unicode
Card name: S3 Graphics Inc. Savage4
Manufacturer: S3 Graphics Inc.
Chip type: S3 Savage4
DAC type: S3 SDAC
Sound Devices
-------------
Description: ESS 1969
Device ID: PCI\VEN_125D&DEV_1969&SUBSYS_01621014&REV_02
Having said all this when I try to install version patch it doesn't get in, it acts like it has but when I open PTW I see version patch 1.27 on the bottom.
One game that I'm on is a scenario and always freezes at the same spot and only the game music continues uninterrupted. I can only get out by con-alt-del.:egypt:

I have read all the replies to your post and I have searched the news groups and the forums here. I find only one question regarding this particular issue.

When I open Civ3Edit the Edit Rules page is displayed large and out of frame. I cannot move the window around nor can I minimize it. As a result I can no longer edit any scenarios.

My system:

Abit MB with 900 MHz Thunderbird
768 MB PC100
NVIDIA TNT 4 with latest drivers
Win XP , latest updates
Diamond MX400 Monster Sound latest ESS drivers
Shamrock C809-D with the only drivers I can find

What I have tried:

Setting display to various levels - 800x600, 1024x768, 1600x1200,...
Reinstalling game
reinstalling OS
Formatting drive and reinstalling Win 98, then ME, and then XP

Any suggestions clues or assistance will be appreciated.

Glorious Bright
gbright@nospamatt.net
(remove the nospam to email me)

I have a couple of queries so hope someone can help. I have just reinstalled Civ III (US Edition) + PTW (bought in the UK). Previously I have had it all up and running with no problems. Sorry if either of these queries has been asked before. You must feel free to ignore or point me in the right direction. I have searched and not found an answer to the MP query.

I have installed the US patch 1.27 and when trying to run the game, I get an error messgae saying the disc should be inserted -when it is! I have reinstalled a couple of times and even tried the UK patch to no avail.I do not feel that the disc can be faulty as I have just successfully installed from it. Any ideas?

The other query is re MP and occurred before trying to install any patches. I have successfully played this for months. Now I can't take my playing partners with me into games that I host and can't see their games if they host. So, when I host, I go into the staging window, my partners join and I click on 'launch' and go through to the setup window. My partners are then kicked out. My two partners can play each other and both can either host or join so I feel that the problem must lie with me.

What has changed? Well, I beta tested but had Conquests in a separate file. However, it is since then that I have not been able to play MP. At the same time I installed a pop-up stopper but disabled both this and the firewall before trying to play MP. I have since uninstalled the pop-up stopper and all the Conquests files to no effect. I am vaguely hoping that Conquests will fix all this but cannot wait for it to come as it is coming from the US. Anyway, I am not really optimistic on this point!

My system is Windows XP, Pentium 4, 2.0 GHz, 256 Mb RAM, Soundblaster with fairly up to date drivers. :) I am registered at Gamespy although don't go into MP from there. I have tried this too but it made no difference. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

SkOtie - it is just the single image of the Civ III Castle before the movie - the splash screen I believe it is called. That comes up over my desktop, without taking up the full screen, and then dissapears, as it should. However, the Civ III movie should start up after but it doesn't.

So, if anyone has any clues I'd be really grateful.

Hello,

I know when you install C3C, you can play vanilla civ and PTW. My question is, are they patched or do I need to install the patches for vanilla civ and PTW?

Thanks,
daufoi

Hello

I have civ3(patched v129f) and civ3 conquest. Around 270BC or later if I try to load a saved game I get the following message with all my saved games:

DataIO operation System Error: CTZN
Loading Error, Error Reading File

after this all of my cities dissapear. I started 4 games this weekend but I always had the same results.

I tried these
1, Uninstalled the game.
2, Scanned my computer with F-prot Antivirus.
3, Installed Civ3 again.
4, I patched civ3 with civ3v129f.exe
5, Installed civ3 conquets
6, Tried to install the game to another HDD.

Nothing has happened. How can I solve this problem?

My config:

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclient.010817-1148)
Language: Hungarian (Regional Setting: Hungarian)
System Manufacturer: VIA694
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP processor 1700+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.5GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 340MB used, 909MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0902 32bit Unicode

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (16 bit) (85Hz)
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4523 (English)

SB Live! Audio [D000]
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0244 (English)

Try not patching civ 3 before installing c3c i have a brother who had the same problem, but on a reinstall he forgot to patch the other versions and the problem went away! Since then the game has ran fine.


Cheers Thorgrimm

Hello Thorgrimm

Thank you for your advice. I tried it(not patching civ 3), but unfortunately I got the same result.
Any other idea?

Marc

Sorry the only thing i can think of is something is corrupting your sav. files, is it only after that date or does the other saves before that time also get the same errors?


Cheers Thorgrimm

Hello

Yesterday I was playing with the Maya civ, I saved the game around 200 BC , then I tried to load it back. Unfortunately I got this error message. I tried to load my autosaves , got the same result. I could only load 4000BC autosave, and one which I saved in 600 BC.
I also get the same result when I play a Conquest game(scenario).

When I had only civ3 with patch, this error occured mostly in the modern age (that time I had win98se, now I have winXP).

I have a motherboard whit via chipset If I change it to a nforce2 motherboard, will it help me?

Marc

no i don't think it is the motherboard something is occuring that is making your new saves corrupted. If it was your motherboard other software would be affected as well. I would bet it is something in Win XP, as i do not own XP i can't help you there. One question was XP an upgrade or did you reformat your drive and then install?


Cheers Thorgrimm

Win Xp was an upgrade, I did not format the HDD. I will try that if I can't solve the problem in a week. But hope Atari will answer my e-mail, because I don't want to lose 40 Gb.

Civ3 runs without errors on your system? What kind of computer do you have? Maybe I should buy a new one and sell this one:).

Marc

It runs great, but a little slow as i only have a 500 athlon processor and win Millenium. The problem with XP is that it is based on the NTFS file system, which is basicily NT. As the other versions of Win ME, 98 they are FAT based and most games have to balance the os with the fact that most systems out there still use FAT versions of win. And with my experience with NT tells me that after a certain point in the game XP can no longer process the info into NTFS system files and it becomes corrupted. I don't know for sure but a lot of people have been having trouble running c3c on XP. Remember NT was up to service pack 7 to make NT compatible with most games as NT was designed as a business and server software. So knowing "Microshaft":D XP is going to need a lot of service packs to make it compatible with Fat based games. I don't know if i have helped at all, but i tried.


Cheers Thorgrimm

win xp works best if its a clean install

Hello Thorgrimm and jimkirk

So you think I should format my drive c: then reinstall winXp and civ3. Will it surely help me? Well, I will give it try. For me it is really interesting, why I can run first person shooters on my computer without any problem and I can't run a TBS. Usually these kinds of games have no compatibility problems.

I sent a bug report to Atari on Sunday, but I have not received any aswers yet.

One more thing. The programers of this game know about this problem(DataIO...), thats why they put this error message into the game. So I suppose they have to know what thing causes this error, but why don't they write it down in the readme file?

Marc

I'd really appreciate help in this. Any suggestions in, um, mostly not too computerspeak would be great.

Intro video runs fine, then screen goes black and
music plays. I've updated my drivers but don't know if the driver for the monitor is right. I've tried different compatabilities/colour/resolution etc.

If my driver is wrong for the monitor and I can't find an Acer driver what do I do?? The computer guy at work has offered a monitor from there. will that assist instead?


This is what I have.
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Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home
BIOS: 68602 v2.14
Processor: Intel Pentium 4, 2.0GHz
Memory: 248MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0
---------------
Display Devices: Intel 82845G graphics controller
Current Mode: 800 x 600 (32 bit) (72Hz)
**Monitor: 15" Acer 54eL (old monitor for new computer)

Thank you so much,
P

i have win xp and i run c3c just fine .. the only problem i encounter is sometimes a sudden drop to the desktop without any error message .. and its so random i cant recreate it

Yesterday I updated the bios of my computer as ATARI customer support advised, and it seems it helps me. In deity games on huge maps I got this error (DATA IO operation system error)around 1250 BC, but now I am around 20 BC and there is no problem! Yet:). Hopefully the old bios caused this error.

Marc

penelopody

Read the whole topic, as far as I can remember there were a few posts about problems like yours. I think the problem is not with your monitor, I suppose it supports 1024*768, civ3 requires this resolution. I think it will be something with your video card.

Marc1980,

thanks. will give it a try. fingers crossed :)

Hi, I bought the gold edition of civilization and its work well, but when i dowload the 1.27 patch to be abble to play multiplayer game, a message appear and tell me to insert the play the world disc, but hes inside. I just want to know if there is a special patch for the gold edition or something like that.

Thanks

PS Sorry if my english is bad, its because my first language is french

SuN_DiSCiPLe

This civ3 gold edition includes civ3 play the world, and you would like to play that one? I have civ3 conquest (it includes Play the world) and when I patched ptw to 1.21 I could not play with it because it required a cd. But I had only the conquest cd.
In such case you can go to:

Links deleted

and dowload a so called gamefix which is a game crack, but sometimes you can't play with your legal(original) version, because the patches overwrite a copy protection(or something like that) and the only way to solve this problem to use a crack. Hope it helps.

Marc

Marc, I understand what you are trying to do,