Okay, I've finally been able to finish this unit. Wow, it's been a long time comin'. Anyway, it's finally finished. I made a couple of changes from the first preview, but I didn't fulfill all the requests, sorry. Part of the reason was a little lack of motivation and some was I just like the unit the way it is.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Huscarl_Second_Preview.gif
He's definately a lot bigger than the Viking Swordsman, but I don't think that it's the huscarl's fault; I think the swordsman is just a little on the small side.

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Huscarl.zip).

FIRST POST! Yes, it's done! I've been waiting to long! It's just great utahjazz7!

extremly cool unit jazz:goodjob:

Nice gonna have to figure out what to do with it once I get home (slow day at a Student congress meet.)

Fourth post, yay? Great unit it does seem a bit large, perhaps you should update the European Swordsman in size?

Originally posted by Mobilize
Fourth post, yay? Great unit it does seem a bit large, perhaps you should update the European Swordsman in size?

Outstanding job, Utah! I too have been waiting for this fella to come along! :goodjob:

Oh Oh, so cool! Medieval Infantry for the Vikings? There really is a lot of units, that are way better then what the Firaxis provided us with....

Does anyone have the ability to write a Civilopeida entry?

Originally posted by Risbinroch
Oh Oh, so cool! Medieval Infantry for the Vikings? There really is a lot of units, that are way better then what the Firaxis provided us with....

Does anyone have the ability to write a Civilopeida entry?

Although there were Dark Age Scandinavian troops known as "Huscarls", troops of that name were best known as the elite of the pre-Norman-invasion English army -- so they historically "disappear" after 1066 CE.

Here's a good link. (http://www.regia.org/huscarl.htm)

-- Oh and BTW another excellent unit! :goodjob:

-Oz

Looks SHARP utahjazz7 (no pun intended)
:lol: He does appear to be able to "Chop Em Down" ...Great Job!

Nicely done!

Thanks, I've been waiting for this! :goodjob:

This looks great! :thumbsup:

And I do like the symbol in the shield :lol:

Originally posted by aaglo
And I do like the symbol in the shield :lol:

Well, somehow I happen to like it too;)

Great unit! Though I think I might not use it for Vikings, but for some other North-European civ:mischief:

bloodthirstingly brilliant, thanks utahjazz.

Excellent unit utah, extremely goodlooking dude who's into the swing of things!!! :goodjob:
Shows yet again that Northern Europe rules! ;):p

Edit: just tested him, still extremely goodlooking dude!

Looks good

Any plans for your next unit?

aweosme dude ;goodjob: if looking for a new job in the futre, I have a unit idea that EVERYONE will be interested in ;)

unforutuantely, pictures are rather hard to find of it, but I htink i have enough at the moment to give insperation for a fine unit ;)

*one should note that the unit in question, for once, is not Roman ;)

tha said, this guy looks a bit large to me....

Neato! :goodjob:

nice unit, but hes gone all christian on us :p

Hey, eh, thank you! I love it! :yeah: :thanx:

Really good, cheers!! :goodjob:

Originally posted by Johann MacLeod
nice unit, but hes gone all christian on us :p:lol:

Great unit! I love it!

Beautyful!

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Originally posted by Johann MacLeod
nice unit, but hes gone all christian on us :p

Well, there's nothing wrong with that.

Actually, I made the shield like that because the original request was for and Anglish/Danish huscarl. The shield pattern was chosed because it is similar to the flags of England and Denmark . . . I think.

Originally posted by utahjazz7
Well, there's nothing wrong with that.

Actually, I made the shield like that because the original request was for and Anglish/Danish huscarl. The shield pattern was chosed because it is similar to the flags of England and Denmark . . . I think. Of course there's nothing wrong with that!!! :D

And yes, the shield pattern is indeed similar to the flags of both England and Denmark...

I think the pattern is only similar to english and danish flags. But it actually is finnish flag (at least with the blue default civ-specific colour :lol: )

BTW, nice-to-know background info:
- The danish flag (white cross on red background) is the oldest flag still in use. I think it dates from 1300th century (or close to that period)

A lot of european flags has a cross in it, they all look almost the same. Though the Norwegian one is the most beautiful... But it has no name? Like Union Jack etc

Danebrog (isn't it called that?) What does that exactly mean? OT: speaking of flags, doesn't Finland use a swastika on the presidents/parlament flag or something, I believe I have read that somewhere, or where that just during WW2? And even more OT: you're to do list........ What about fictious ships for the Zulu aswell? Don't ask me what they will look like though, have no clue.

Originally posted by Risbinroch
A lot of european flags has a cross in it, they all look almost the same. Though the Norwegian one is the most beautiful... But it has no name? Like Union Jack etc.

I don't know about the specific nickname of the Norwegian flag, but the upright cross found so commonly upon European flags is, in English, called the St. George's cross; the "X" type (as found in the flag(s) of Scotland) is called the St. Andrew's Cross.

-Oz

Originally posted by aaglo
I think the pattern is only similar to english and danish flags. But it actually is finnish flag (at least with the blue default civ-specific colour :lol: )

Yeah, I didn't think about that when I was making the unit. After I saw the first couple posts of people liking the unit and noticing that the posts were from Finland, I remembered the Finnish flag. So, I guess it's a win-win situation: I made the Anglo/Danish huscarl that was requested and a possible UU for Finland. ;)

Can't believe I missed this unit. It's very nice.

just downloaded it!
will surely try it this week-end!
great job!

Originally posted by Risbinroch
Danebrog (isn't it called that?) What does that exactly mean?Afaik its just a name, but it might have meant something in the old days.

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Originally posted by Risbinroch
Danebrog (isn't it called that?) What does that exactly mean?
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My trusty old encyklopedia assures me that it's a composition of borrowed words from frisian and low german, meaning "redcoloured piece of cloth".

Originally posted by aaglo

BTW, nice-to-know background info:
- The danish flag (white cross on red background) is the oldest flag still in use. I think it dates from 1300th century (or close to that period)

The 1300th century? That's still some time off ...

It's probably from the 13th century, and often connected to the reign of King Valdemar Sejr and his crusades against the Estonians.

However, it appears it's only attested with certainty from the late 14th century, which it means that it's possibly younger than the (pretty similar) English flag, as well as the Austrian one.

Yeah, the nut-cases who went to fight the Estonians claimed that Dannebrog fell from the sky during the battle (June 15th 1219). Suspiciously enough it sounds like something out of the bible, and it is widely believed that the flag was a gift from Pope Honorius. “Good work killing all those heathens, here’s a pretty flag in return”

It is true that brog means clothes. It was a common term at the time.

Originally posted by The Last Conformist


The 1300th century? That's still some time off ...

It's probably from the 13th century, and often connected to the reign of King Valdemar Sejr and his crusades against the Estonians.

However, it appears it's only attested with certainty from the late 14th century, which it means that it's possibly younger than the (pretty similar) English flag, as well as the Austrian one.

I seem to remember from history that the symbol, but not the flag, was used by Danish invaders in Sweden in the early 13th century. The Swedish flag is a direct copy of it but with different colors.

Great unit:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Wolfhart
My trusty old encyklopedia assures me that it's a composition of borrowed words from frisian and low german, meaning "redcoloured piece of cloth". [/B]

I think the word brog derives from brocade, but don't know what this is based on :) .

I know it's details, but I'm pretty sure the correct spelling for the unit is "Huskarl". It actually means "a man of the house". Which was a pretty sigifficant and important title for warriors considering the old viking society. "Huscarl" means nothing.
-Tom

The English word is, as I've pointed out before, "Housecarl".

However, google actually has more hits for "huscarl" than for that, and almost as many as for Scandinavian "huskarl". It seems mainly to be used in the RPG community.

Cool unit again utah :) Love the two-handed axe attack :)

Originally posted by The Last Conformist
The English word is, as I've pointed out before, "Housecarl".

However, google actually has more hits for "huscarl" than for that, and almost as many as for Scandinavian "huskarl". It seems mainly to be used in the RPG community.

There's quite a number of English names for things with no aparent meaning in any other language than Ancient Nordic. Of the simple reason that there were quite a number of Norse settlements in Brittain. The Shettlands had for a very long time a distinct norse culture. A quite a number of small communities has a name ending in -by. Which in norse signifies the word for village.

But I'm not going to keep on whining. It's very possible that the "c" and "k" were at some point actually interchangeable. I just don't know.
-Tom

This huscarl/huskarl debate is needless. C and K does have exact the same sound!

Originally posted by Aluminium
This huscarl/huskarl debate is needless. C and K does have exact the same sound!

Also note that in Anglo-Saxon Futhorc (runic) there is -- as in Latin -- no "k"; the "c" looked like a "K" missing the upright angled line and was pronounced "cen" (hard "c" = "ken") which also meant torch.

"Elder" Futhark (the oldest known version of runic; BTW note the difference in spelling -"k" not "c") had a "k" (which looked like "<"), was pronounced "kaunaz" and, perversely, meant "ulcer". It did not have a "c".

In either event, Aluminium is correct -- and "Celtic" would have been pronounced "Keltic".

-Oz

Originally posted by drzoidberg


There's quite a number of English names for things with no aparent meaning in any other language than Ancient Nordic.

Actually, "huskarl" is perfectly good Modern Swedish, and "huscarl" is merely weirdly spelt.

But that doesn't change the fact that the native English word is "housecarl".

huscarl is simply the Old English version for housecarl (hus being Old English for the Modern English house).

hus is also modern swedish meaning house.

Originally posted by aaglo
hus is also modern swedish meaning house. And karl means man, so now we should have all the etymologies all tied down and branded, don't you think? Now it's only the entomologies left. ;)

huskarl = houseman = talonmies (in finnish) = janitor (in english).

Is that the civil occupation of this fellow ;)

Yes, most Vikings were janitors when they weren’t raiding England. :cool:

Oh, it continues! Here's my contribution :D :
Did you know that the German version is Hauskerl? The feared Hauskerls... :lol:

and the Cherokee version is Galitsodeasgaya (Ga-li-tso-de a-s-ga-ya) I think that's a much more accurate name. ;)

Ok, here's some more..

Estonian: maja nupp
Danish: hus mand
Dutch: huis mens
Irish: teach fear
Old English: hus man
Polish: dom czlowiek
Welsh: t^y gw^r
Latin: homo domus

Well.. hmm. It's kind of funny that the Irish word for huskarl, teach fear (tey-aak fe-ar), are the same as English's teach fear (tiich fiir).. the two words go well together. An Irish huskarl teaches fear. ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Love that post Mobilise...

Anyway the Irish version* would be a Gallowglacht. In fact there are probably lots of units like this in europe. Therefore I have replaced the vanilla Medieval infantry with this guy.

The difference is HUGE, this guy (no matter what you call him) ROCKS....

*EDIT: I mean the Irish version of this unit, theres nothing wrong with Mobilises translation..

:D
That's cool! I found an Anglo-Saxon version...

on gewitnesse eallra ðaes kynges hûscarlan
...and because it is so beautiful here for Old West Frisian too!

soe schil di huiskeerl dae bannere bieda dat hy dine schelta aesshie

LOL ...

BTW, would this the first unit on CFC with a name in Old English?

Danish "husmand" surely needs to be spelt as one word, btw? And I'm positive "homo domus" isn't good good latin .... Perhaps homo domi? "house's vassal"?

Originally posted by Aluminium
Oh, it continues! Here's my contribution :D :
Did you know that the German version is Hauskerl? The feared Hauskerls... :lol: That has also made me wonder a lot of times. Why would the Scandinavians use the term "Huskarl" if it was so similar to "Hauskerl"? I mean, who would fear a Hauskerl? :confused:

Klingt als ob er ein Feigling wurde... :lol:

Originally posted by Tathlum
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Love that post Mobilise...

Anyway the Irish version* would be a Gallowglacht. In fact there are probably lots of units like this in europe. Therefore I have replaced the vanilla Medieval infantry with this guy.

The difference is HUGE, this guy (no matter what you call him) ROCKS....

*EDIT: I mean the Irish version of this unit, theres nothing wrong with Mobilises translation..

Tathlum, check out this unit, i think you'll like it.:)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53241

I requested it ages ago, kinboat got it down to a T.
Look for King Arthurs mod,(if not the first page in C+C its at least 3 back), he has all utah and kinboats best units in it, but i think he needs more support to get it finished.

Eh, sorry about that Utah.:)
I clicked on here to tell you that your units are getting better all the time. I haven't been around so much, but I've went through your sig and all your units are excellent.:goodjob:

Originally posted by gael
I haven't been around so much, but I've went through your sig and all your units are excellent.:goodjob:

Wow! It has been a long time since I can remember seeing a post from you in C&C. Thanks.

Very cool work :goodjob:

Thank you for another great unit. :goodjob:

Nice unit! Now How do I install it?:confused:

You could try this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31576), combat101.