Hi. I'm starting an archipelago PBEM with 5 humans and 3 AIs. Settings are as follows.

Standard size.
80% water.
Barbarians roaming.
Climate normal.
Temperature warm.
Age 5 billion.
Difficuly monarch.

I wanted to do an archipelago since most PBEMs are continents or pangaea. Rules are pretty standard.
-No contact with anybody outside of the game until you make contact with them in the game. After that, feel free to talk via this forum, e-mail, yahoo.chat or any other means.
-No reloading. An obvious one but needs to be said anyway.
-Play at least one turn a day. And if you are going to be out of town or can't play your turn, have the courtesy to visit this forum and let us know.
-Any deals with the AI or humans are fine. If you want to ally against someone, go ahead. If you want to break deals, go ahead. etc...
-I'm open to suggestions for any other rules once you decide to join the game.

If you want to play, respond here with your name, e-mail, time you play, and civ choice. I thought it might be nice if everybody picked a seafaring civ, but the choice is yours. After everybody has picked their civ, I am going to give the AIs seafaring civs. Since there are only 7 seafaring civs, and if all 5 humans pick seafaring civs, then two of the AIs get seafaring and the third AI will be random.

Players so far

DogBoy undecided civ GMT-5 greeneclan AT mchsi DOT com
Fanste Byzantine GMT+10 fanste_28 AT hotmail DOT com
Arrogant Spain GMT+2 micmic1431968 AT hotmail DOT com
Tweedledee Netherlands GMT+1 tweedledd AT gmx DOT de

Still need one more human player.

bump

Ok might as well join another one :D
fanste - fanste_28@hotmail.com - byzantines - GMT+10

I would like to join:

Tweedledee - Dutch - GMT+1 - tweedledee AT gmx DOT de

Archipelago sounds interesting

Arrogant undecided civ GMT+2 micmic1431968 AT hotmail DOT com

hey dogboy, thanx 4 signing me up, as u may remember because i posted in threads, my internet has been down, please allow me a little time 2 pick my civ, (couple hours) not sure who all is seafaring, thanx.

after looking over the seafaring civs i really wanted the portuguese, but already have a game w/ them & im trying to b diversified :( so then i wanted the dutch, but somebody stole them while my internet was down :mad: so then i finally decided upon Carthage, however since i am handicapped by having to take my third choice the other players in this game are going ot have to spot me a tech & 20 gold as soon as contactis established. :lol:

I'll take the glorious Spanish and make them even more glorious.

hey, i hate 2 do this, but i am having serious internet issues, cannot commit to another game right now as i might end up having to drop out of other games i am already in due to not being able to get online & take my turns, so just leave me out

We need one more human player. If you want to play then give me your civ preference, time you can play, and e-mail. If nobody else wants to play by tonight (EST), we can start with 4 if everybody wants.

We could start now with 4 AIs.

I can play 7-12 and 15-22 GMT. I can wait for another player or start now, whatever you want.

Same here, I'll play either way, 4 or 5 humans

Ok everybody, I started the game. Turn order is
DogBoy Scandanavian greeneclan AT mchsi DOT com
Fanste Byzantine fanste_28 AT hotmail DOT com
Arrogant Spain micmic1431968 AT hotmail DOT com
Tweedledee Netherlands tweedledd AT gmx DOT de
Computer Carthage
Computer England
Computer Portugal
Computer Random (Germany)

All victory conditions are enabled. I turned off cultural linked starting positions. Random seed is active. The rest of the settings are in my first post. Good luck to us all.

4000 BC sent to Tweedledee around 08:30 GMT

This must be the worst starting position I've had ever since.... Civ1 :(

(DogBoy, you have misspelled Tweedledee's e-mail)

3950 BC sent to DogBoy

Sorry about mispelling the e-mail. I just woke up and got the turn is here, so I guess everybody is on track. Turn is being played now and sent to Fanste.

Talk about bad starting positions! I think by making the climate warm that the game went overboard and put in too many marshes and jungles. At least I got to start on a tiny bit of fresh water.

Played and sent,
looks like i got lucky with an average start :D

3950 BC sent to Tweedledee around 08:30 GMT

3900 BC to DogBoy

Played and sent. Guess I'm glad for you Fanste that you got an average starting position. You know how everybody says feudalism is a crappy governement because it penalizes you for having a bunch of small cities? Well, feudalism is looking good right now, at least for my capitol and for whatever I can see around my land. Cities don't get too big in jungle and marsh.

Yep :) .. hmm Feudalism, never even been that government , gonna have to try it out some day, might actually need it in a pbem
Played & sent.

3900 BC sent to Tweedledee around 00:30 GMT

3850 BC sent to DogBoy

3800 BC sent to Tweedledee around 07:30 GMT

3750 BC sent to DogBoy

played and sent

3750 BC sent to Tweedledee around 09:00 GMT

3700 BC sent to DogBoy

played and sent. we are rolling!

Yip :)
Sent on.

3700 BC sent to Tweedledee around 07:45 GMT

3650 BC sent to DogBoy

played and sent
now that I'm scouting, I get to see more marsh than just what I could see with my capitol! How exciting :(

"More marsh" ? Hey, I can see only marsh! Oh, and sea, too. Perhaps I should have chosen the Amphibians :rolleyes:

Arrogant, are you sure you are not loading my game and playing it? :lol: It sounds like we are having the same problems. Fanste said he had a decent spot and Tweedledee hasn't said what he got. Now I'm curious.

Originally posted by DogBoy
Arrogant, are you sure you are not loading my game and playing it?

Pretty sure, because you said:

At least I got to start on a tiny bit of fresh water.

The only fresh water I can see is in the glass in front of my monitor :lol:

3650 BC sent to Tweedledee around 08:00 GMT

3600 BC sent to DogBoy

My starting location is not too bad. No river but a lake, grassland and forests, and an area of wine not far away.

Doesn't sound too bad to me, grasslands, forests, wines.

played and sent

3600 BC sent to Tweedledee around 23:00 GMT

3550 BC sent to DogBoy

I don't have it yet :confused:

I sent it to Fanste right after getting it. But since it seems to be stuck I'm sending it again. Hopefully we can get this going again.

Received water10 turn for the first time and played & sent it on jus then.

3550 BC sent to Tweedledee around 23:00 GMT

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Beware... my start is quickly turning from 'pretty decent' into 'extremely good' - my warrior just uncovered 3 cattle rite next to eachother, and a load of bonus grassland around em :D :)
turn sent, btw

3300 BC sent to Tweedledee around 23:00 GMT

3250 BC sent to DogBoy

Well, I noticed something about the points this turn. We are on monarch and the AIs all have 10 more points than we do. My guess is they all got some good starting positions and we all got crappy - middle of the road starting positions. Anyway, played and sent.

3250 BC sent to Tweedledee around 12:00 GMT

3200 BC sent to DogBoy

The save doesn't work. I get an IO message when it's loading. I sent you an e-mail to send me the turn again.

The lone Byzantine curragh has uncovered another thing of interest... blue borders, probably of Bismarck of the Germans!
Early contact should be made next turn :)
Turn sent

3200 BC sent to Tweedledee around 08:00 GMT

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3000 BC sent to DogBoy

I will be out of town this weekend. I will play my turn Friday night before I leave, and I will be back Sunday night. So basically I will only miss Saturday night. Sorry for the inconvenience.

3000 BC sent to Tweedledee around 09:00 GMT

2950 BC sent to DogBoy

Nice turn: My curragh has contacted the suicidal portuguese - with their capital Lisbon next to the message 'volcano is now active' :D

2950 BC sent to Tweedledee around 00:00 GMT

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I just received word from DoyBoy, his cable modem is down, cableman coming to look at it tomorrow. I think he is going to save some turns on a disk at work, play them at home, then can send them the next day from work, but i cannot guarantee that. He can't post here because this site has the word "fanatic" and his web at work has banned sites with words like that.

After further discussion with DogBoy he says as long as this problem continues he will play each turn everyday by downloading it from his mail at work, taking it home at night to play, then mailing it from work the next day. He will be sending the turn sometime tomorrow

Ok, I'm back online! I live in a new subdivision and houses are still being built. The construction workers hit the cable line, but the cable people came today and fixed it. Hopefully they don't hit it again.

I just played my turn and sent it.

2800 BC sent to Tweedledee around 08:45 GMT

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Well, it looks like Spain has been destroyed. It's not entirely his fault though, he had a CRAPPY start from what I can tell. Make sure you leave him out of the e-mail rotation when you send your turn.

:( Really crappy start + a lot of bad luck. I had just one sugar and a fish and in order to get both tiles in the start I had to build on the sugar. Everything else was marsh or sea. Ok, so I decide to risk and build a fast settler (as fast as I can with 1 shield), we are in archipelago anyway and I can hope I won't meet soemone else fast. Well, not so :(

And this turn my curragh reached Madrid in the hope for a good trade with the spanish :mad: You should have wait one more turn with being destroyed.

2150 BC to DogBoy

Ya, I can see now that you did have a very bad start. We have a horrible island. And when I saw that worker and settler I knew I had to have them to clear some land so I could settle. I really have no where else to settle until I clear some marsh/jungle and my starting worker is already busy doing that, but he can only do it so fast.

Bad luck Arrogant, hope ya had a better start in the other lost in the sea archipelago game ;)
Sent turn on to Blocki couple of hours ago btw

As I can see your island of marsh the game seems not to be very balanced. My starting location is pretty good, but if I'm the only one being happy with the game, I would accept a restart on a new map with the same team. Don't know if such an offer is sacrilegious?

2110 BC sent to DogBoy

Originally posted by Tweedledee
if I'm the only one being happy with the game, I would accept a restart on a new map with the same team.

Nah, just crush everybody. Life is unfair, so what ? :D

Tweedledee, you bring up a good point. I should have asked everybody if they wanted a restart. After looking at Arrogant's starting position there is a very slim chance he would have been able to do anything with this game. Even if we had not been on the same island and he was alone, he still would have fallen so far behind. I will keep that in mind if I ever start another PBEM.

I just started a PBEM where the host did ask us if anybody wanted a restart. After getting the turn, I saw I was surrounded by desert, with the next ring mountains and one volcano. I asked for a restart and didn't feel bad about it one bit.

2070 BC sent to DogBoy

Originally posted by DogBoy
After looking at Arrogant's starting position there is a very slim chance he would have been able to do anything with this game.

Actually waht you see is a somewhat improved situation, I had already cleared one tile of marsh :rolleyes:

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1910 BC sent to DogBoy

Ok. When I started this game I said barbarians were going to be roaming. But does anybody think I mistakenly set them to raging? I am having barbarian problems all over the place. I disperse a camp and another one pops up a few squares away. I can't move settlers where I want them because a new camp pops up. And some of these camps have more than one warrior. A camp I just discovered has 4 warriors in it! So is anybody else experiencing this?

yes! :eek:
barbs ate my 2nd settler, i finally managed to get rid of them and get going, and what do i see pop up just that turn i played then?
another barb camp :(

guys, who has the game? It's been about 4 days now.

I sent the last file Apr 12, 11:50 AM. Turn 1425 BC.

I'm not sure when i last had it, tho yes it was a while ago
do u want to send on your latest .sav to get it moving again dogboy?

I just sent it again to try and keep it moving.

1400 BC sent

Guys, who has the game? It has been over 2 days since I saw the save last and we were pretty steady on 1 turn a day.

Sent the last file (750 BC) to you on May 21.

Ya, I got and played that one. I just sent it again incase Stefan never got it the first time.

i got it, sorry, couldnt play/send it tho my internet was down past 2 days
played and sent just then

I am going out of town Saturday afternoon and will be back Sunday evening. Times are east coast USA. Have a good weekend.

We made it to turn 100 [party] The bad news is Stefan had to drop out of the game due to school and work. But no need to worry as he found a replacement. We would like to welcome Klem to the game!

Guys, I am going on vacation. I will be gone from June 20-23 and from June 26-July 1. Sorry for the delay.

I just got back and the game wasn't in my inbox. Does anybody know where the game is?

230 BC sent to you on June 20. If you didn't get it I'll resend. Otherwise Klem has the game.

Yep, I have played and sent that game. It must be with Klem.

Klem, are you out there?

Hi, just a reminder that I'm going on vacation today. I will be back on July 1 or 2. Sorry for the delay and see you when I get back.

I sure hope when I get back this game gets going again.

"The Germans? He dead, sir."
:D :D :D

So one of the AI is wiped off the map then eh?

I'm very lucky because I found a new job that was starting today, but now I can not promise anymore to play my turn daily. If the game will slow down because of me I'll look for a replacement, but first I'll try to continue.

@ Tweedledee, Congrats on finding a new job. Just do whatever you think is best. If the game takes up too much of your time then try to find a replacement, a dependable one perferably.

My new job keeps me busy 12 - 16 hours a day, and there is no time for
playing Civ anymore. I have to quit all my PBEMs and will look for a
replacement.
Sorry for the inconsistence.

Tweedledee

Thanks for letting us know. I also am trying to find a replacement.

You need someone ?

If it is OK, I can step in...

LouLong, I have already sent an e-mail to someone. If he doesn't want to play, you got it. Thanks.

LouLong, the game is yours. Rubberjello will send you the save and you will send it to me. My e-mail is greeneclan AT mchsi DOT com. As for the particulars:
-You are the Dutch.
-As far as I know you have not had your golden age yet.
-You have leading the game with 100 more points than me, and 200 more than Rubberjello (who is also a replacement after the first and second guy quit!
-You do not have any peace or trade agreements with me, but I don't know if you have any with Rubberjello.
-You can contact Tweedledee for the password at tweedledee AT gmx DOT de
-If you can't reach him to get the password in a few days then let me know and I will give you the admin password.
-Good luck!

I sent the password to LouLong yesterday and hope he received it.
Have fun with the game - it was nice and I'm a bit sad about leaving it.

Tweedledee

I got it (played 2 turns already), thanks.

Nice taking up after you. First time I replace someone who did well !

LouLong, you did get lucky playing after him. He has an excellent start (I think), and he has definately done better than the rest of us.

The game is going well. Thanks to the dedicated players in this game.

GPS 170th turn to Dogboy.

GSP to Dogboy.

Turn 200 :bday:

To all: I finally got my computer up and running. It had a problem that made the computer constantly reboot and there was nothing I could do. I had to wipe my hard drive and reinstall Windows XP. I am currently downloading all patches, drivers, and reinstalling all my programs. I should be able to play again real soon. Thanks for being patient.

250 turns and rolling !

Turn 418 ... and it is still too short...

I haven't seen this game in a while. Does anybody know where the game is? If not, I will send the latest turn to RJ again in hopes of keeping this game going. We are so close to the end it would be a shame to stop now I think.

New turn for Dogboy

Rubberjello has won by Spaceship victory.

Interesting game...