I am now taking signups for my 12th PBEM game!

This is a Civilization III: Conquests epic game and requires the latest versions of Civilization III (currently v1.29f) and Civilization III: Conquests (currently v1.15 Beta) to participate.

So far, I have the following confirmed players: heihojin (me) - random civIf you would like to play, please post a reply, send a private message, or e-mail me with your e-mail address and civ preference (if any). I require your e-mail address to hold your spot!

Please also either update your profile to indicate your location - city, state (if you're in the U.S.A.), and country - or indicate your location in your request to play. Alternatively, you could specify your time zone. I use this information to arrange turn sequence from East to West around the globe.

I am willing to customize your civ for you if you provide the appropriate information for the fields (Formal, Noun, Adjective, Title). Please note that your civ is considered public information at the start of the game; if you opt for a customized, random civ, you are expected to inform the group of the actual civ given to you immediately following your first turn.

The game will begin as soon as I have eight confirmed players. If you have not specified a civ preference by the time, you will be assigned a random civ. Spots for the game and civ preferences will generally be filled first-come, first-serve, as determined by the timestamp of the request; however, I may deliberately favor some requests over others in the interest of balancing my games.

Turn summaries will likely not be posted to this or any other forum, as I am far more interested in actually playing the game than with posting turns in a public forum. If you would like to post a turn summary here for the benefit of forum visitors, however, feel free to do so.

Commitments

By requesting to play you commit to the following: You agree to contact me (through e-mail, private message, a third party or other means) as soon as possible if you encounter technical difficulties or other circumstances that prevent you from fulfilling these commitments. You agree to act in a courteous manner toward all other players at all times in your "out-of-game" communication.
You agree to abide by the general protocol for gameplay as set forth in the welcome e-mail, as well as any changes to the protocol I may make during the course of the game.
You agree to inform the group when you are going to be unavailable for a period of greater than 24 hours.
You agree to check your e-mail at least once daily (at least twice daily is preferred).
You agree to promptly respond to all messages - immediately, if possible.
You agree to complete and forward your turn within 24 hours of receiving it.
You agree to refrain from "in-game" communication with another player until making contact with that player's civilization.
You agree to play the game to completion unless personal or technical circumstances render it impossible for you to do so.If you would like to peruse the general protocol for gameplay prior to signing up, let me know and I will happily e-mail it to you.

"In-game" communication refers to sharing information about your civ or other players' civs, making deals, proposing alliances, etc.. "Out-of-game" communication primarily refers to administrative matters (such as "Dude, where's my turn?" e-mails), but also includes innocuous conversation (such as "Where is everyone from?" e-mails).

Default Game Settings and Rules

Unless specified otherwise, the default game settings and rules will be as follows: Game Type: Play By Email
Game Mode: Standard
Turn Timer: None
World Size: Standard
Barbarian Activity: Roaming
Land Mass: Continents
Water Coverage: 70% Water
Climate: Normal
Temperature: Temperate
Age: 4 Billion
Difficulty: Regent
Allow Domination Victory
Allow Space Race Victory
Allow Diplomatic Victory
Allow Conquest Victory
Allow Cultural Victory
Allow Wonder Victory
Allow Civ-Specific Abilities
Allow Cultural Conversions
Preserve Random SeedPlease note that many of these rules are open to discussion beforehand; I will generally side with the majority opinion.

One question that has frequently arisen is whether reloading the game is allowed. Although the "Preserve Random Seed" rule removes most of the incentive for reloading, there are of course other advantages. Unfortunately I know of no way to regulate the number of times the game is reloaded, so any rule prohibiting reloading is impossible to enforce. Furthermore, reloading seems quite acceptable in the event of an error, e.g. if you make a mistake in moving your units. Because I am reluctant to support rules that cannot be enforced, and because I'm sure that I personally will have to reload at least one game due to an error, I do not have any rules regulating reloads. Ultimately, it's a question of what provides the most enjoyment for you as a player.

Please note that once you make contact with another player's civ, your diplomacy options are completely unrestricted. Feel free to invent whatever deals you wish, regardless of whether they are enforceable from within the game or not.

These games tend to fill up quickly, so submit your request to play now! If you do not make this game, I always accept requests for alternate spots in this game and any of my other current games, so there's a good chance you can get in at least one of my games as an alternate.

Here's to the next war!


heihojin

I'm in. Random civ.

I would like to join a famous heihojin game!

Random Civ
Rubberjello AT yahoo.com
GMT - 8 hours (Pacific Standard Time)
I can play most times of the day except 7 AM to 1 PM GMT

Of course I'm game! Now I need to read your entire post to decide what civ I want.

Ok, standard post from your other games.

random civ for me.
I play 0100-0400 GMT
e-mail is greeneclan AT mchsi DOT com (note this is different than what you probably have on me)

Count me in too

fanste_28 AT hotmail DOT com
GMT +10 (Adelaide, SA)

hmm...might be the Ottomans in this one

Sure, I'm in. I'd like to actually join a game from the start, instead of replacing other guys.

viccougarsfan @ hotmail . com
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada (GMT -8)

I'll take the Americans. With some modifications:

Name: Michael
Formal: Canada
Noun: Canadians
Adjective: Canadian
Title: Prime Minister

Additional: Rubberjello said he wanted to join "a famous heihojin game". What I would like to know is: famous for what? (I'm in regardless of the answer.)

I will tell you why it's famous. First of all, he is the best host I have played with. He has the more complete set of rules. Second, he doesn't let a game stall. He keeps track of where the turn is and turns really do take one day turn around (usually) in these eight player games. I have been in several of these but unfortunately had to give them up with I went to Afghanistan, but now that I'm back I can see the games I was in are well along their way. I'm looking forward to getting back into this one.

I would like to be in this as well

Originally posted by DogBoy
I will tell you why it's famous. First of all, he is the best host I have played with. He has the more complete set of rules. Second, he doesn't let a game stall. He keeps track of where the turn is and turns really do take one day turn around (usually) in these eight player games. I have been in several of these but unfortunately had to give them up with I went to Afghanistan, but now that I'm back I can see the games I was in are well along their way. I'm looking forward to getting back into this one.

Sounds good. I was just hoping that it wasn't famous for consistently having hugely massive wars in them.

Wow, this game is filling up quickly! We have the following confirmed players: heihojin - random civ
purvisxiii - random civ
Rubberjello - random civ
DogBoy - random civ
fanste - Ottomans
Vancouver2010 - Americans, customized as "Canadians"
Portuga - Egyptians
heihojin

Originally posted by DogBoy
He keeps track of where the turn is and turns really do take one day turn around (usually) in these eight player games.

Thanks for the kind words, DogBoy!

Let me clarify one item: the 24-hour turnaround commitment is an individual commitment, meaning that you are expected to complete and forward your turn within 24 hours of receipt. In an 8-player game, this typically results in a turn cycle of 4-5 days. Shorter turn cycles are possible, but they ultimately depend on player availability.


heihojin

Originally posted by Vancouver2010
Sounds good. I was just hoping that it wasn't famous for consistently having hugely massive wars in them. LOL!

Well, I do have a couple regular players who have warmongering tendencies, but none of my epic games have evolved into world wars - yet. Although that would be pretty cool...

Of course, the admin of this game would never consider invading a peaceful, neighboring sovereign nation for any reason. Trust me! :satan:


heihojin

welcome back dog, and if dig is here too then all the miore incentive.
random civ; same old email

Prettyvacant, you must have a new e-mail. I e-mailed you when I got back to finish our game but you never responded. And just as the game was getting good too. I doubt we could play it as it was PTW, but we might. I still have the save file if you want to try to pick it back up again.

We have the following confirmed players: heihojin - random civ
purvisxiii - random civ
Rubberjello - random civ
DogBoy - random civ
fanste - Ottomans
Vancouver2010 - Americans, customized as "Canadians"
Portuga - Egyptiansprettyvacant (one of my most enthusiastic players) will be an alternate for this game.


heihojin

hey, i would love to join this one, but having some internet difficulties, so retracted earlier post, but if you have a dedicated alternate (prettyvacant) he could always play my turn if i stall for more than 24 hours w/ my technical difficulties, if that's okay w/ everyone, i could send him my password when game starts. hopefully interent issues will be worked out soon anyway.

if im in i'll take carthage

GMT -6

predesad AT yahoo DOT com

would like modifications

Name: Predesad
Formal: Predesad States
Noun: Predesadians
Adjective: Predesadian
Title: Chief Justice

Heihojin, I want to change my civ to Persia. I just checked and the last time I played them was about 11 months ago so I'm due for them. I also want to alter my stuff like Predesad.

Name: DogBoy
Formal: Mighty Persian Empire
Noun: Magnificent Persians
Adjecive: don't add anything here
Title: Lord

Originally posted by predesad
hey, i would love to join this one, but having some internet difficulties, so retracted earlier post, but if you have a dedicated alternate (prettyvacant) he could always play my turn if i stall for more than 24 hours w/ my technical difficultiesAlthough I appreciate your interest in the game, I'd prefer that you waited until your technical issues are resolved before joining. Hopefully we'll get to see you in one of my future PBEM games!


heihojin

that's fine, i understand

hi!
Is there still a civ left? i'd like to join in, but have never played PBEM before. how long does a game like this take? I may be out for some 5 days in late feb and a week in mid march, would that be too much of a problem?

my email: e.jakub@centrum.cz

i'll choose the rest if i'm in.

Originally posted by magog
hi!
Is there still a civ left? i'd like to join in, but have never played PBEM before. how long does a game like this take? I may be out for some 5 days in late feb and a week in mid march, would that be too much of a problem?Hi magog! Yes, there's one spot remaining and you're in! Let me know what tribe you'd like to play within the next 24 hours, otherwise you'll get a randomly picked civ.

You can expect this game to take more than a year to complete, perhaps two years. Time off is generally not a problem, unless it's going to be for two weeks or longer. Just let me know with as much advance notice as possible.


heihojin

alright, thanks!
i've made my choice, will try my luck with the Celts, thus modified:

Name: Radslav
Formal: Great Moravian Empire
Noun: Moravians
Adjective: Moravian
Title: Prince

GMT +1 (Central European Time)
Prague, Czech Republic

We begin the game with the following confirmed players: heihojin - random civ
purvisxiii - random civ
DogBoy - Persians, customized as "Magnificent Persians"
Vancouver2010 - Americans, customized as "Canadians"
fanste - Ottomans
Portuga - Egyptians
magog - Celts, customized as "Moravians"
Rubberjello - random civI just sent the welcome e-mail and the 4000 BC turn. When you receive the welcome e-mail, please send me a short reply indicating that you have received it. If for some reason you have not received it, please let me know as well.

Be sure to read the welcome e-mail before playing your first turn. Remember to carbon-copy me on all turn sends and confirmation receipts for the first turn only.

DogBoy and magog: There was not enough room to fit your customized Formal labels, and so I concatenated them to "Persian Empire" and "Moravian Empire" respectively.

Enjoy the game!


heihojin

Errr....any news on this one? I was kind of hoping it would progress a little faster than this, for at least the first turn!

Originally posted by Rubberjello
Errr....any news on this one? I was kind of hoping it would progress a little faster than this, for at least the first turn! Portuga is experiencing some technical difficulties that impede his availability on weekends. Regardless, a 4-day turn cycle is average.

I just sent you the 3950 BC turn, so you shouldn't have any reason to complain. :p


heihojin

oopsie! I posted that within two minutes of you sending the 3950 turn. Sorry for the impatience.
:blush:

heihojin,
I was wondering could I use your rules and similar settings for my own PBEM game that I plan to post here? They seem to be recognised well in the community as a good game to play so I thought it'd be great to use while we all wait for your next game.

Originally posted by Kaboth
heihojin,
I was wondering could I use your rules and similar settings for my own PBEM game that I plan to post here? They seem to be recognised well in the community as a good game to play so I thought it'd be great to use while we all wait for your next game. Sure, that would be fine - just credit me as the originator. :)


heihojin

Thanks a lot,
Just one quick question though how do you organise the order in which people play. Do you check the day time for each persons timezone and then make sure they fit in the order according to their afternoon/evening which should be the time most people would check their email to play their turn?

Originally posted by Kaboth
Just one quick question though how do you organise the order in which people play. I just arrange it from East to West around the world. Some other admins like to arrange it according to the players' stated preferred times to play.


heihojin

hi guys, as i said before i won't be able to play during the weekend (till wednesday morning). I have just sent 3900 Sav to Portuga who probably still can't play at weekends, so I hope I won't cause any long delay as it will take a day or two from Monday before the save gets back again to me. thanks

I will be out of town this weekend. I will play my turn Friday night before I leave, and I will be back Sunday night. So basically I will only miss Saturday night. Sorry for the inconvenience.

i will be away this week and not playing until monday 29th evening. I am very sorry, have to have a vacation.

by the way why is it that my capital shows as the top 1 city? is it more or less random or does it have any reason? It is a beautiful city and I hope it stays on the top but why now, all the cities must be more or less the same at this point?

It seems I was a little hasty in requesting the upgrade to v1.20, as I simply assumed (wrongly) that Firaxis gave a damn about their PBEM players. Once again, their fumbling developers have screwed us and I am forced to ask you to maintain an obsolete v1.15 Beta installation.

It is relatively simple to maintain two distinct installations of Conquests. If you haven't yet upgraded, and are still using v1.15 Beta: Rename the Civilization III\Conquests folder to "Conquests v1.15 Beta" or something like that.
Uninstall Conquests with "Add/Remove Programs" from your Control Panel.
Reinstall Conquests to the default folder.
Install the patches for both v1.20 and v1.22.
If you have already installed the v1.20 or v1.22 patches, you can follow the above steps to rename your Conquests folder to "Conquests v1.22", uninstall Conquests, reinstall Conquests, and then install the v1.15 Beta patch. Thankfully, all three patches can still be found at http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3patches.shtml.

I have sent what I'm sure will be the first of many negative feedback submissions to Firaxis. If you would like to add your two cents and let them know how miserable they've made your game-playing experience, the URL is http://www.firaxis.com/contact_gamefeedback.cfm.


heihojin

In an attempt to convert this game to v1.22, we will do the following: Please play the current turn (3450 BC) using v1.15 Beta.
When I receive the turn beginning 3400 BC, I will attempt to load it using v1.20. Assuming I am successful, we will play 3400 BC using v1.20.
When I receive the turn beginning 3350 BC, I will attempt to load it using v1.22. Assuming I am again successful, we will play 3350 BC using v1.22.heihojin

where is the save now? i sent 3450BC to portuga 31/3 and he got it. have you got it yet heihojin?

Originally posted by magog
where is the save now? i sent 3450BC to portuga 31/3 and he got it. have you got it yet heihojin? Yes, I just received it today. I will attempt to convert the game to v1.20 tomorrow.


heihojin

We will remain at v1.20 until those wonderful guys at Firaxis...

...(err, excuse me for a second)...

:vomit:

...(ahh, that's better)...

...release a patch that allows us to upgrade to a current version.


heihojin

Hotmail keeps kicking back my e-mails so I will post the save here for viccougarsfan.

hi guys, as you might have noticed the great civilization of the Moravians has been expunged from the face of the world. largely due to my laziness in the field of diplomacy and the cunning slyness of my worthy evil opponent. hail to the victor. see you in another game.