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Licinio Feb 16, 2004, 02:03 PM This will be kind an "B alternative" for the Brazilian project of the www.civ3.com.br/forum's guys( I am part of the project too and of course I 've asked for permission).
Civilization: Brazil
Leader: Emperor Pedro II
Bonuses: Industrial and Comercial
Capital: Brasília
Aggression Level: 3
Unic Unit: Voluntário da Pátria( replaces Rifleman) 6.6.1. 80 shields and saltpeteer
Culture Group: American
Favorite Government: Democracy
Shunned Government: Communism
Era specific: Yes!
3D: nop...
Unic Unit: 100% done
Leaderhead: 99% done.
Available to:
Civilization III and Conquests. :D
civilleader Feb 16, 2004, 06:15 PM When did Brazil use the Voluntário da Pátria? Sorry I'm ignorant about South American history.
Straczynski Feb 16, 2004, 07:25 PM On the 1864-1870 Paraguay War. They were the Brazilian volunteer units on the conflict.
SoCalian Feb 16, 2004, 08:29 PM Is there an approxomate date when this will be completed by?
SuperBeaverInc. Feb 16, 2004, 08:56 PM Looks good Licinio. :goodjob:
Straczynski Feb 16, 2004, 09:56 PM Soon, SoCalian. Very soon. :)
R8XFT Feb 16, 2004, 10:50 PM Looking good :thumbsup:
I can't wait to get my grubby mits on that leaderhead :) .
Licinio Feb 17, 2004, 08:50 AM To say the truth, now that Aluminium has finished the adviso's image for me, the civilization is done. 99% done.
The problem is that I had problems with the pallete of the .PCX images( some pink dots appears on the images) and I asked a friend to fix them all. So, I am waiting for him to finish... unless there is someone else that can do it faster...
Yoda Power Feb 17, 2004, 08:57 AM The UU seems quite useless to me. How often do you attack with the rifleman, when you can get Cavalry with an attack of 6. I suggest giving it an extra defence or movement point.
Smedly Bulter Feb 17, 2004, 09:38 AM Um, really quick I thought you should know that Brazil's capital was Rio de Janiro until the 1960's when it was moved to Brasilia, you might want to change it back to Rio...
Licinio Feb 17, 2004, 10:14 AM It will be the actual capital, even knowing that Rio was The capital for centuries...
At first, I wanted to put the Voluntario da Patria with 6.6.1 but requiring saltpeeter but I thought that was too much... should I put like this? Or more? Like Saltpeeter and Iron?
Yoda Power Feb 17, 2004, 10:57 AM You could just make it 6.6.1 and raise the cost to 90. That would be pretty balanced.
Making it require a resource would be unbalanced.
bogdanSUPERIUS Feb 17, 2004, 11:27 AM Looks interesting!!!:lol:
Licinio Feb 17, 2004, 12:25 PM But if I raise the cost of producing the Voluntario da Patria, when a player get the "Replaceble Parts tech", he will have to pay NOTHING to upgrade to Infantary.
What should I do then?
raen Feb 17, 2004, 01:50 PM I only give a little moral support to this project :o This Brazilian guys worked very hard to do the leaderhead, the UU´s and all the other things :goodjob:
Licinio, cool alternative B ;)
jorde Feb 17, 2004, 04:20 PM Are you the one working on that Plata War as well? If so, when can we expect it to be finished?
Licinio Feb 17, 2004, 05:41 PM Well... The Plata War(1851-52)its more complicated you see... there are 5 civs with 5 unique leaderheads that are already done:
Brazil
Argentina
Paraguay
Argetinian rebels
Uruguay
The first 3 are playable. The map is 100% DONE( even the cities), so the problems are:
Rules! And tech Tree!!!
The rules are too boring too make and the tech tree, even I knowing how is going to be, it is just too complicated... As I am doing it all by myself( unless someone wants to join) it will take a while.
BUT, I am sure that, after I post the brazilian civilization, things will go faster, if anyone wants to see the CIVILIZATIONS that will be on the MOD, just see the picture below:
There are more 2 civ that I want to make: Argentina and Ethiopia. But I 'll think about after the release of Brazil and Plata War.
P.S.: Is there anyone that knows how to fix pallete problem in .PCXs images? And that could do it for me? If yes, the Brazilian civilization could be released as soon as it is done.
Licinio Feb 17, 2004, 05:44 PM Plata War's civs:
oiled snake Feb 17, 2004, 07:15 PM Well,
Im' the guy who helped Licínio with our Leader, Dom Pedro II, and made the unit "Voluntário da Pátria". Here dome others images of it. Our Mod Brazil - Plata War is almost done, i just need to finish some details about pallete color, as Licínio said. :)
http://www.civ3.com.br/forum/files/voluntariodapatria_civilope.jpg http://www.civ3.com.br/forum/files/voluntariosdapatriaattack_223.gif
http://www.civ3.com.br/forum/files/volunt_rios_da_p_tria.jpg
ShiroKobbure Feb 18, 2004, 10:09 AM where can I get the unit? ^ o ^
good job everyone! ^ ^
do the heads move?
oiled snake Feb 18, 2004, 11:03 AM Well,
U'll get download soon, in all complete mod.
I'm just waiting to finish everything...
oiled snake Feb 18, 2004, 11:29 AM Bellow civilopedia text:
#PRTO_Voluntario_da_Patria
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^The Brazilian [Voluntário da Pátria] is an offensive and defensive purpose unit. In the beginning, the Country Volunteers were common citizens that insulted by the pointless invasion of Brazil by Paraguayan’s troops (1864) joined the Brazilian army to fight against Paraguay.
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^Due to the hostile environment and to the many battles fought in the War of Triple Alliance (1864-70), these conscript men became highly trained and professional soldiers.
jorde Feb 18, 2004, 04:27 PM Wow... those leaderheads are quite nice... I still dont know which one of them if the Uruguayan leader (heh, I can't even remember his name right now.... which is ridiculous as it's my own country's history)
If you need any extra help with that mod, I could try to do something... the Tech Tree might be quite difficult, as there werent many changes in the countries armies during that period of time... I guess it's just a matter of researching anyway
Licinio Feb 19, 2004, 09:55 AM To understand who is who in the Plata War's Leaderheads, just see this:
Pedro II(Brazil), Oribe( Uruguay), Urquiza( Argentinian rebels) on the top.
The two others are: Solano López( Paraguay) and Rosas( Argentina, that I want to make it's own civilization).
I know what are the techs that will be on the MOD, it is just that it is too boring to put them in the game...
The Brazilians civilitation will be launched next week... because Carnival starts saturday!!!
jorde Feb 19, 2004, 01:03 PM Originally posted by Licinio
To understand who is who in the Plata War's Leaderheads, just see this:
Pedro II(Brazil), Oribe( Uruguay), Urquiza( Argentinian rebels) on the top.
The two others are: Solano López( Paraguay) and Rosas( Argentina, that I want to make it's own civilization).
I know what are the techs that will be on the MOD, it is just that it is too boring to put them in the game...
The Brazilians civilitation will be launched next week... because Carnival starts saturday!!!
Now, I dont remember much about that war, which I think it's the one we call Guerra Grande (Great War), but wasnt Uruguay a big part of that war, with two leaders against each other? (Oribe and Rivera, who was Uruguay's president by that time)
SoCalian Feb 19, 2004, 06:17 PM If you are making an ethiopian civ, Sween32 has already made a good leaderhead, of Zwaditu. If you were to make a new leader head though, I would like to request that it be of Hallie Sallise. I have always wanted to see a good animated Leaderhead of him. Oh and:
[party]Woo Hoo! I can't wait to DL![party]
jorde Feb 20, 2004, 04:02 PM Originally posted by SoCalian
If you are making an ethiopian civ, Sween32 has already made a good leaderhead, of Zwaditu. If you were to make a new leader head though, I would like to request that it be of Hallie Sallise. I have always wanted to see a good animated Leaderhead of him. Oh and:
[party]Woo Hoo! I can't wait to DL![party]
Oops... Wrong thread
Licinio Feb 25, 2004, 10:08 AM Yep, the last Emperor of Ethipia is the leaderhead that I want to make.
GOOD NEWS!!!!!
The brazilian leaderhead is finished, not, what is not, it is just the Flics. But They can be done easy!!! In a few days(2-3 days...) everyone shall have the chance to play with the brazilians civilization!!!!
keiselhorn Feb 25, 2004, 12:05 PM Comercial and Industrial? That's VERY alternative, Licinio.
Looks like it wants to represent the Paraguayan war period. This will be cool.
Just for the outsiders to have an idea, the "A" alternative for Brazil is expansionist/agricultural, with the Bandeirante as UU (comes with Astronomy).
Good job, Licinio. :goodjob:
oiled snake May 12, 2004, 08:39 PM where can I get the unit? ^ o ^
good job everyone! ^ ^
Ok, i've posted the unit at CFC. :)
Now you can download it at this link:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=87848
Mr. Will May 13, 2004, 05:34 PM Is the leaderhead up for DL yet? Your unit has convinced me to add Brazil because it looks so good. Great job!
oiled snake May 13, 2004, 10:55 PM Not yet, i think it will become avaliable at this weekend...
;) :D
Mr. Will May 17, 2004, 08:22 PM Is it ready yet????? :rolleyes: Ignore me, take your time and get it right.
BTW, I think that the stats that you gave it are a little drastic. In keeping with the Civ 3 UU standard, do you think that the Voluntario could be a rifleman replacement with a point higher attack or defense rating for the price of the standard rifleman, no saltpeter required? (like hoplites having +1 defense but the same price, immortals havnig +1 attack but same price, etc.) Which would be more realistic towards the Voluntario, higher attack or defense?
Wow. Lots of questions. ;)
Good luck with the leaderhead!
Licinio May 22, 2004, 11:01 AM The Voluntário shall cost the same as the rifleman, but it's statistics will be 6.5.1.
And won't need saltpeteer.
Corn Shucker Sep 30, 2004, 04:54 PM Licinio, making the Voluntário have stats of 6.5.1 is totally unrealistic to the fact that any rifleman from this time would generally be a stronger defensive unit due to many facts (one being reload) therefore i would suggest making it have 5.6.1 or 4.6.1 (<--thats rifleman) and adding one HP bonus. I guess what ever you choose is your choice, but i, myself, would change this immidiately after i would download it. Just my opinion on the situation.
Corn Shucker Sep 30, 2004, 04:56 PM Also.... is it just me or has this project been nearly done for quite awhile now.... I think you should at least explain why its taking you longer than expected to the rest of the members of the forum... lol, sorry if i sound pushy, once again, my opinion.
Licinio Oct 03, 2004, 06:35 AM Thank you Corn for memind me back from this project.
Do you want the truth??? The UU is ready, all the leaderhead images are ready.
You ask me why this haven't been lauched already? I'll give you two motives:
1) My friend, Oiled Snake has the files. I don't have them anymore. So, it is up to him to post them here.
2) I truly thought that people wouldn't be interested in this "old" leaderhead type. There are other Emperor Pedro II from Brazil out there, even on in 3D.
But, I am going to ask to Oiled to post the files here, ready or not. And if something is missing, maybe you folks could fix it up for me, it would be really nice.
And yes, 6.4.1 it is not very good to the Rifleman, 5.6.1 is much better. Thank you very much!
Sword_Of_Geddon Oct 03, 2004, 01:31 PM You could probably just update using Civarmy's DPII.
oiled snake Oct 11, 2004, 12:26 AM You could probably just update using Civarmy's DPII.ehehehe...
Sure! I know Civarmy's jobs.
And he's getting to make many very nice leaderheads.
:) :goodjob:
Sword_Of_Geddon Oct 11, 2004, 01:33 AM To think he started in May...
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