This is my first time organising a PBEM game so to make things easier on all participants I have shamelessly ripped off heihojin's rules :D So all credit and kudos go to heihojin for his great rules.

Rules are as follows:

This is a Civilization III: Conquests epic game and requires the latest versions of Civilization III (currently v1.29f) and Civilization III: Conquests (currently v1.15 Beta) to participate. Game is now running as Civilization III: Conquests v1.20.

Current rotation is as follows:
1. Kaboth (kaboth AT tpg DOT com DOT au) - India
2. Eliit Mees (eliitmees AT merimax DOT ee) - Americans
3. Rochinante (jmot AT sprynet DOT com) - Egypt
4. Dogboy (greeneclan AT mchsi DOT com) - Ottomans
5. Warlord Sam (nachosamurai AT verizon DOT net) - Suprise (Rome or Japan)
6. Superslug (superslug AT emailaccount DOT com) - Mayans
7. Oblivion (alex AT brimelow DOT net) - Greeks

If you would like to play, please post a reply with your civ preference (if any). I require your e-mail address to hold your spot!

Please also either update your profile to indicate your location - city, state (if you're in the U.S.A.), and country - or indicate your location in your request to play. Alternatively, you could specify your time zone. I use this information to arrange turn sequence from East to West around the globe.

I am willing to customize your civ for you if you provide the appropriate information for the fields (Formal, Noun, Adjective, Title). Please note that your civ is considered public information at the start of the game; if you opt for a customized, random civ, you are expected to inform the group of the actual civ given to you immediately following your first turn.

The game will begin as soon as I have eight confirmed players. If you have not specified a civ preference by the time, you will be assigned a random civ. Spots for the game and civ preferences will generally be filled first-come, first-serve, as determined by the timestamp of the request; however, I may deliberately favor some requests over others in the interest of balancing my games.

Turn summaries will likely not be posted to this or any other forum, as I am far more interested in actually playing the game than with posting turns in a public forum. If you would like to post a turn summary here for the benefit of forum visitors, however, feel free to do so.

Commitments

By requesting to play you commit to the following:

* You agree to contact me (through e-mail, private message, a third party or other means) as soon as possible if you encounter technical difficulties or other circumstances that prevent you from fulfilling these commitments.
* You agree to act in a courteous manner toward all other players at all times in your "out-of-game" communication.
* You agree to abide by the general protocol for gameplay as set forth in the welcome e-mail, as well as any changes to the protocol I may make during the course of the game.
* You agree to inform the group when you are going to be unavailable for a period of greater than 24 hours.
* You agree to check your e-mail at least once daily (at least twice daily is preferred).
* You agree to promptly respond to all messages - immediately, if possible.
* You agree to complete and forward your turn within 24 hours of receiving it.
* You agree to refrain from "in-game" communication with another player until making contact with that player's civilization.
* You agree to play the game to completion unless personal or technical circumstances render it impossible for you to do so.

If you would like to peruse the general protocol for gameplay prior to signing up, let me know and I will happily e-mail it to you.

"In-game" communication refers to sharing information about your civ or other players' civs, making deals, proposing alliances, etc.. "Out-of-game" communication primarily refers to administrative matters (such as "Dude, where's my turn?" e-mails), but also includes innocuous conversation (such as "Where is everyone from?" e-mails).

Default Game Settings and Rules

Unless specified otherwise, the default game settings and rules will be as follows:

* Game Type: Play By Email
* Game Mode: Standard
* Turn Timer: None
* World Size: Standard
* Barbarian Activity: Roaming
* Land Mass: Continents
* Water Coverage: 60% Water
* Climate: Normal
* Temperature: Temperate
* Age: 4 Billion
* Difficulty: Monarch
* Allow Domination Victory
* Allow Space Race Victory
* Allow Diplomatic Victory
* Allow Conquest Victory
* Allow Cultural Victory
* Allow Wonder Victory
* Allow Civ-Specific Abilities
* Allow Cultural Conversions
* Preserve Random Seed

Please note that many of these rules are open to discussion beforehand; I will generally side with the majority opinion.

One question that has frequently arisen is whether reloading the game is allowed. Although the "Preserve Random Seed" rule removes most of the incentive for reloading, there are of course other advantages. Unfortunately I know of no way to regulate the number of times the game is reloaded, so any rule prohibiting reloading is impossible to enforce. Furthermore, reloading seems quite acceptable in the event of an error, e.g. if you make a mistake in moving your units. Because I am reluctant to support rules that cannot be enforced, and because I'm sure that I personally will have to reload at least one game due to an error, I do not have any rules regulating reloads. Ultimately, it's a question of what provides the most enjoyment for you as a player.

Please note that once you make contact with another player's civ, your diplomacy options are completely unrestricted. Feel free to invent whatever deals you wish, regardless of whether they are enforceable from within the game or not.

Settings are chosen to give all civs a decent chance at winning. Continents 60% water makes naval campaign still meaninful without making the expansionist trait completely useless. temperate/normal/4 billion attempts to not overpower the agriculture trait nor make the keshnicks useless. Monarch diff to make civ happiness management more meaningful early on to increase the value of early temples with religios civs. Due to no AI players taking advantage of monarch diff this shouldn't cause primarily regent players to struggle to much. 8 Players mean the game should still be interesting if we for whatever reason lose some players.

These games tend to fill up quickly, so submit your request to play now! We will begin when 8 players have signed up. I ask that if you are a really good (gosu player) that you do not sign up as I expect most of this audience to be regent, monarch, learning emperor diff players; makes the game more interesting this way.

I would like to join with the Greek.

tweedledee (at) gmx (dot) de
GMT+1

tweedledee (at) gmx (dot) de

So that will be your name? with normal nouns, adjective and title? All the odd characters left me confused.

I think you can see my name very well, and there is no need to explain an email address or how to code it to avoid spam.

But if this simple informations are too complicated for you and let you confuse, so better let me out of the game.

Here!

I will play with the persians!

Ok I understand now Tweedledee, I've never seen that method of spam protection used before, that's all.

So Kaboth - Indians
CaptainCommando - ?
Tweedledee - Greeks
Blocki - Persians

4 more to go....

Blocki I need a timezone or area as per the rules + an email if you wish to join.

the rules are ok.

My E-Mail adress is jescar2atweb.de

i´ve forgot my timezone. 19:00-22:00 in German time.

I would like to join as the Japanese or the Romans. Please surprise me ;)

My email address has been PM'ed to you!
As for time zone, I'm in West Virginia, United States, under the Eastern Standard Time Zone (which I believe is GMT - 5).

This will be my first PBEM game, and I look forward to it! :)

If you still need one more, I'll join as the Ottomans.

Email: PM'd.
Time Zone: New York, USA- EST (GMT -5)

This'll be my first PBEM, too. Just one question: why Wonder Victory? It would seem to me that somebody will probably have won by the time all the Wonders are built.

So Kaboth - Indians
Tweedledee - Greeks
Blocki - Persians
Warlord Sam - Suprise :) (Rome or Japan)
Grandmaster - Ottomons

No I doubt anyone will achieve wonder victory so no real harm having it on. I may turn that and diplomatic victory of also; cause that can be cheezy.

3 More to go......

Ok, I'll play as the AMericans. My E-Mail is: captainketchup_@hotmail.com

Damn, i've never played a PBEM and now i'm about to play 2 at once, this is crazy, i hope i can keep'em straight! :crazyeye:

So Kaboth (joshthecybs at hotmail dot com) - Indians
Tweedledee (tweedledee at gmx dot de) - Greeks
Blocki (jescar2 at web dot de) - Persians
Warlord Sam (Varianst at concord dot edu) - Suprise (Rome or Japan)
Grandmaster (Leven9999 at aol dot com) - Ottomons
CaptainCommando (captainketchup_ at hotmail dot com) - Americans

CaptainCommando PBEM's move so slow I'm sure you'll be able to keep 2 going fine :)

2 More to go......

If we don't get two more people by this weekend should we just take of with 6? Just wondering, because i mean, 8 is a lot for a PBEM, and so many of them just die because one guy blows it by going on vacation for a week or getting a virus and not being able to get online and sowing the seeds of chaos throughout the game.

Yo, I'll give it a go. email: jmot at sprynet dot com location: Oregon P.S.T. Just give me a civ with fast workers.

So Kaboth (joshthecybs at hotmail dot com) - Indians
Tweedledee (tweedledee at gmx dot de) - Greeks
Blocki (jescar2 at web dot de) - Persians
Warlord Sam (Varianst at concord dot edu) - Suprise (Rome or Japan)
Grandmaster (Leven9999 at aol dot com) - Ottomons
CaptainCommando (captainketchup_ at hotmail dot com) - Americans
Rocinante (jmot at sprynet dot com) - Random industrial Civ

Rocinante I'll put all the remaining industrial civs in a hat and draw one out for you.

If we don't get two more people by this weekend should we just take of with 6? Just wondering, because i mean, 8 is a lot for a PBEM, and so many of them just die because one guy blows it by going on vacation for a week or getting a virus and not being able to get online and sowing the seeds of chaos throughout the game.

Only need 1 more now. IMHO the more the better, means one quiting will have less effect on the whole game. In any case I should be able to set get a replacement player from these forums if necessary I hope.

All players should choose a password for their civ and email it to me so that I can replace anyone if necessary and for security of course.

I've been meaning to try a PBEM for a while, I already play daily! So if you still want an eighth, count me in. My preferred Civ would be the Mayans, although I would like to be named Superslug in the game (noun, adjective, etc switched to Supersluggers, Supersluggish, etc).

My email is superslug@emailaccount.com and I live in the Eastern Time Zone.

Cool, i think we're ready to begin :)

So Kaboth (joshthecybs at hotmail dot com) - Indians
Tweedledee (tweedledee at gmx dot de) - Greeks
Blocki (jescar2 at web dot de) - Persians
Warlord Sam (Varianst at concord dot edu) - Suprise (Rome or Japan)
Grandmaster (Leven9999 at aol dot com) - Ottomons
CaptainCommando (captainketchup_ at hotmail dot com) - Americans
Rocinante (jmot at sprynet dot com) - Random industrial Civ
Superslug (superslug at emailaccount dot com) - Mayans

Great that's complete; I'll create this game and send it of to the first person in less than 12 hours from this post. I'm a little busy atm. It should be arranged east to west. Good luck all.

Game has been arranged in this order:

So Kaboth (joshthecybs at hotmail dot com) - Indians
CaptainCommando (captainketchup_ at hotmail dot com) - Americans
Rocinante (jmot at sprynet dot com) - Drew Eqypt out of a hat
Grandmaster (Leven9999 at aol dot com) - Ottomons
Warlord Sam (Varianst at concord dot edu) - Suprise (Rome or Japan)
Superslug (superslug at emailaccount dot com) - Mayans
Tweedledee (tweedledee at gmx dot de) - Greeks
Blocki (jescar2 at web dot de) - Persians

4000 BC has been sent to CaptainCommando and the game is underway :D

So, do you guys surrender yet or do I have to subdue you some more?

Just so I get this straight--I'll get the sav file from CaptainCommando, take one turn, then email the new sav file directly to Grandmaster.

How about cheating--it seems that we could scout the terrain ahead of time using an alt sav file--do we all agree not to do this?

Is it okay to keep an alt sav file just so I can look at the map and think about my next turn?

What's a keshnick?

Originally posted by Rocinante
So, do you guys surrender yet or do I have to subdue you some more?
Please make sure that all your city improvements are constructed out of stone. It'll make the rubble piles easier to form after I burn your cities to the ground.:lol:

Originally posted by Rocinante
How about cheating--it seems that we could scout the terrain ahead of time using an alt sav file--do we all agree not to do this?
I'm not personally planning on cheating.

Originally posted by Rocinante
Is it okay to keep an alt sav file just so I can look at the map and think about my next turn?
Sounds really borderline to me. Wouldn't a screenshot accomplish the same thing?

Sorry to be so ignorant--is there is primer on doing screenshots somewhere?

Screenshots are easy to do. Just have the part of the map you want to shoot on-screen, press the "Print Screen" button (top-right corner of keyboard), open a paint program (like Paint which comes default on ost computers, or Printshop, anything like that) and hit paste. Then save, and you'll have a screenshot.

Thanks Grandmaster! A screenshot will do just fine. I will take a screenshot and then delete the sav file after I send a copy to you.

Ok, i sen the save to Rocinate, i had a bit of trouble with my E-Mail so if you don't get it, tell me and i'll send it again.

Also, Kaboth, i sthis a randomly genereated map, or did you make it in teh editor? Because if it is randomly generated my starting place is so good it's a sin :D

Don't know about sinful, but I have no complaints about my starting spot.

I hope I'm doing this right. I got "KabothPBEM.sav" and when I opened the game I first got CaptainCommando's dialog box (not his screenshot, thank goodness). I hit escape and and was taken to my opening spot after being asked my password. After moving, I saved under KabothPBEM. When I hit exit I got another screen and hit "save and send to next player"--but it automatically set up a save file under "rocinante". I'll delete both sav files and await my turn.

My city improvements will be built of 100% unobtainium!

Oh yea, I sent Grandmaster the Kaboth file that I saved, not the rocinante file that the machine saved--is that correct?

Yeah, it should say CaptainCOmmando Americans or something, and then take you to your game, then take your turn and save it and name it somrthing, then make i tan attachment to your e-mail to the next guy

Sorry about the briefness of that least post, i'm helping my Dad re-wire the house and crawling under the house in the mud and all kinds of fun things and had to type quickly.

Anyway, if you got my save that means I did it right and that's good, so you want to put it in your save games folder and then go and Load Game from teh main menu, then when you load it, it should say CaptainCommando of the Americans or something similar, but it will still be your turn and your civilization.

Take your turn, then hit the orange button on the bottom right and save the game. I named it the same thing as Kaboth did and just overwrote the original because it was outdated and useless.

Then go into your E-Mail, put in the next E-Mail address and make a witty comment, threat or joke for fun ;) then put the game as an attachment to the E-Mail and send away.

Also, the game i sent you is called KabothPBEM.SAV

If you saved is as RocinatePBEM.SAV or something else, THAT'S the one you want to send, if you retitled your saved turn as something else and then sent the KabothPBEM.SAV file to the next in line then you sent YOUR first turn that i sent you to the next guy, meaning he'll be taking your turn which will screw us all up. So if you sent the wrong one you should immediately send the right one with an explanation so he doesn't play the wrong turn and screw up teh entire rotation before we've even gotten out of 4000 BC.

Don't worry if you made a mistake, it took me awhile to even realize that I needed to save teh game as an attachment. :rolleyes:

Rocinante, you sent me the wrong save. You sent CaptainCommando's save, meaning that it wanted me to play as Egypt (you.) If you could please send me the new save, then I could proceed with my turn. :)

Don't worry, I saw your starting location briefly, but I don't remember it and I deleted the save.

--I saw your starting location briefly--

That's cool, the women folk all had their clothes on.

The correct file has been sent.

Originally posted by Rocinante
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That's cool, the women folk all had their clothes on.[/B]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Save received. I'll play it in a minute.

Originally posted by Rocinante
--I saw your starting location briefly--

That's cool, the women folk all had their clothes on.



Ha! :lol:

Anyway, glad we got that cleared up, on with the game!

EDIT: Grandmaster, we posted at like, the exact same instant. :D

Played and sent. Gotta love my start location. :D

Yeah, I know, i think Kaboth made a the map in the editor because for all of us to have these perfect starting positions is just too much of a coincidence.

I can attest that he did not make it in an editor... my starting position was not all that great. But no complaints, it wasn't horrible and that's the luck of the draw :)

I sent it to the next guy, am I supposed to always post when I sent it? Or is it okay to not worry about posting?

Okay, I just played my turn and sent the file on to Tweedledee. If I did anything wrong, please let me know as this is my first PBEM.

Two questions:
1) Are we sure Tweedledee is in the game? He hasn't posted in the thread since he said he was out, nor has he corrected the fact that Kaboth's postings of his email address have left off an 'e' from the email address he originally posted...
2) Did everyone's starting location come with three free ICBM's or was it just mine?

Yes, you have to post everytime you recieve and send the game so there is no confusion as to who has it, or if whoever it was sen tot recieved it, and all that stuff, it's important to know exacttly where the game is.

That's a freakin' good point, tweedledee hasn't posted since the thread started. If he doesn't post by this time tomorrow we might have a problem, it's in the rules that we post within 24 hours of recieving the game and we might have to start fishing for a new player in only the first turn.

Well, he certainly responded like a huge jerk in the beginning of the thread, so I hope he's out.

There's no need to be so upset over an honest mistake, and I freakin hate people like that.

There was certainly a misunderstanding or miscommunication, but we should at least see if all's well. He did express initial interest in joining and it would save us the trouble of finding a new player.

Furthermore, if he's not interested, we are only on the first turn. I'm as enthusiastic as anyone for momentum in a game, but under the circumstances we could alternatively consider a restart? Just a thought...

Originally posted by Tweedledee

so better let me out of the game.

This is the quote from his post. In light of recent revelations and lack of posting, i really think it's safe to say he's probably out of the game. Maybe we ougt to just start searching for a new player, or just start over with 7 players. Though personally I'd like to find an eighth player if possible, I have such a damn good starting position :D

I'll go with whatever the majority decides, given we still have some other player's opinions yet to be posted.

I'm still in, played and sent to Blocki.

Originally posted by Warlord Sam
Well, he certainly responded like a huge jerk in the beginning of the thread, so I hope he's out.

There's no need to be so upset over an honest mistake, and I freakin hate people like that.

In the response to my post it seems as making a fun of me. I didn't realize it as a mistake but more that my request was not taken serious, and nothing like 'take part in the game'. So I'm sorry for that and hope we can play without bad feelings.

Well, i guess anyone can have a bad day, and things can be misunderstood. Besides, this dude is from Germany and English isn't his first language and he may have trouble putting his point across. Anyway, I think we can let bygones be bygones and get on with the game.

I, personally, am glad you're back, Tweedledee, i would've hated to try to find a new player, probably would've taken days.

Anyway, take yer turn dude, let's get this show on the road :)

Originally posted by CaptainCommando
Besides, this dude is from Germany and English isn't his first language and he may have trouble putting his point across.

Hell, English is my first language and I find it hard to get my point across on-line. Not being able to guage emotion from tone of voice makes communication a little difficult. ;)

Good to see Tweedledee is still playing, I did mention I was hosting/playing for the first time hence my honest mistake earlier regarding emails.

Nope I did not edit the map it was randomly created from within the game, whatever great locations you guys have is purely luck. Mine is certainly nothing astounding.

Rocinante, the Keshnik is a UU for the Mongols.

I don't see a problem with keeping the last save of your turn to view terrain to decide on future plans later. Continuing to play other peoples turns and check their locations etc however is not acceptable and I did urge players to use a password to prevent any such unnethical behavior from opponants.

I added the extra e to where I have listed tweedledee's email address.

Thanks to those of you who helped some of the newer players get accustomed to PBEM.

So just out of interest any of you guys play Emperor successfully, I'm having a hellavu time in single player. Funny enough the 3 top civs in score all possess the agricultural trait.

Originally posted by Kaboth
So just out of interest any of you guys play Emperor successfully, I'm having a hellavu time in single player. Funny enough the 3 top civs in score all possess the agricultural trait.

I've played a couple of GOTM games on Emperor and struggled through the ancient age but got the upper hand in the middle ages. I really don't care for the combat disadvantage at Emperor--you really need numerical superiority or an equal number of significantly superior units to successfully wage war.

Given my skill level and my penchant for fun over meticulous plotting I think Monarch is just right.:egypt:

Originally posted by Blocki
Here!

I will play with the persians!

Hey X-man, are you in? Everyone has taken their first turn except you.

Hey Blocki, its been 98 hours since your last post--where are you?

Originally posted by Kaboth

Funny enough the 3 top civs in score all possess the agricultural trait.

Yeah, same in all my games, civ with the agriculteral trait, especially the Maya, always annhilate everyone else and conquer half the planet.

Well, i'm glad tweedledee is back, but now we have Blocki. Damn, people, how are we ever gonna get this off the ground? Someone private mesage him or something.

Originally posted by CaptainCommando
Yeah, same in all my games, civ with the agriculteral trait, especially the Maya, always annhilate everyone else and conquer half the planet.
If it's any comfort your PBEM Mayan leader isn't looking to be the violent type in this game. Mind you, I'm not saying I won't start wars, but I'm not going to pursue bloodshed for the sake of bloodshed. I've got the AI for that all the time, it's not every day I get to experience the nuances of human competition.

Originally posted by CaptainCommando
Well, i'm glad tweedledee is back, but now we have Blocki. Damn, people, how are we ever gonna get this off the ground? Someone private mesage him or something.
Done!

Yeah, while we're warming up in teh first several turns, maybe we should talk about war and conquest etc. Since we have no AI to beat on, we ARE eventually going to duke it out with each other.

I mean, if someone has a vital resource or is gonna get a culteral/space race victory, they're gonna get dogpiled on, and if someone gets wiped clean out of the game (Probably me) there are bound to be people getting pissed off at each other, so maybe we ough tot just agree all treacherous backstabbing and broken treaties are purely non-personal, and should stay just inside the game.

I've never played any sort of multiplayer before but I plan to play to win, and if that means attacking my former ally from behind where he's weak to take half his empire, or wiping someone out instead of letting them hang on to a last few cities, i'm gonna do it, and I don't want anyone getting upset over it.

This is going to be fun. Landing a resource could actually prove to be more of a liability than advantage. I suspect the trick would be making an ally or two...

As far as in game politics, it is just a game. Actually, I'm not sure I could take anything personally. After all, I don't really know any of you. You're really just pieces of text on my monitor...

Well it's gonna be a lot more personal when my tanks are rolling over you

:soldier: :soldier: :soldier:

Just be sure to head for my core cities. That way I won't have to rebase my Stealth Bombers.

Why are you people arguing about this? I don't intend to let you survive into the Modern Age.

Originally posted by Grandmaster
I don't intend to let you survive into the Modern Age.
With the way you cook, I probably won't! But for now get back in the kitchen and make me dinner. When I want your opinion I'll give it to you.:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Originally posted by superslug

With the way you cook, I probably won't!

:lol: We may have a game stalled here, but at least there's a laugh a minute :lol:

Originally posted by CaptainCommando
:lol: We may have a game stalled here, but at least there's a laugh a minute :lol:
Did I give you permission to speak? No! So get back in the basement and finish my laundry before I go to work tomorrow. When I want your opinion, I'll have my secretary Rocinante email it to you...:lol:

Originally posted by superslug

Did I give you permission to speak? No! So get back in the basement and finish my laundry before I go to work tomorrow. When I want your opinion, I'll have my secretary Rocinante email it to you...:lol: Yeah, and don't put in too much starch, either!

Seriously folks, we have a stalled game on our hands. It is now way, way past midnight Blocki-time. Can we play on with seven or should we start over and look for a new player or what?

I'm serious about this trading thing also. How can we trade--when it is my turn it isn't your turn if you get my drift. I mean if superslugbait wanted to trade his bonus nukes to warmonger sam he can't because it can't simultaneously be both their turns. (yes, contrary to popular opinion, English is my first language.)

What's the decision, Kaboth, are we going to play or just practice our typing skills.:confused:

I didn't understand a damn word Rocinate just said, but i personally believe sent the file to Blocki, who is clearly not active in this game anymore, should just reload the game, take Blocki's first turn, disband his settler, get super-stoned and forget his starting location, and then send the save of that to Kaboth, and we can just continue playing as if nothing ever happened.

Ok, unless Blocki shows up we ought to begin with the plan ASAP.

--Ok, unless Blocki shows up we ought to begin with the plan ASAP.--

Kaboth must know Blocki's password so what are we waiting for?

However, having said that, it is now beddy-by time for little Rocinante so it can all wait until tomorrow.:sleep:

Blocki hasn't taken his first turn yet, so he doesn't even have a password, so whoever has the save, i think Tweedledee, jus thas to go in, take his turn and disband his settler, send the save to Kaboth, and problem solved. :cool:

I've sent the save to Kaboth now so he can decide to kick him out or look for a replacement.

hey!

I have yesterday no time for civ. Why i´m kick?

I have yesterday no time for civ. Why i´m kick?

Your not kicked yet Blocki if you play your turn now and pass it onto the next player and continue to play efficiently you can stay but as stated in the rules you should check your email at least once twice a day and acknowledge in this post when you pass the save onto the next player. If you can't do this please tell us ASAP so we can arrange replacement or leave you out of game. Any further delays will force me to boot you.

Blocki I have no password from you I would appreciate it if you could email it to me.

I've sent the save to Kaboth now so he can decide to kick him out or look for a replacement.

Thanks for that Tweedledee.

As for alliances your welcome to break them and betray friends if you like but don't be suprised if you get an MA used against you. The more loyal you are the less of a percieved threat you are.

Trading is done over several terms in PBEM as in hotseat. So in game terms this can be slow so speed it up by emailing PMing, IMing who you wish to trade with to help arrange negotiations.

Alright, i think everyone is cool, but we need more strict adherence to the rules. We live in a society of laws dammit, and i'll not have a few bad apples spoil the bunch, or something.

Try to post here once a day fi you can, at very least check your
e-mail once a day, preferrably twice.

About trading, what you do in multiplayer is send someone an offer, for example:

We Give: Alphabet

and on that person's turn they will get the message, adn can respond with

We Give: Masonry

ANd send it to the original sender, and if he approves, it's a done deal, if not, you send the offer back to be negotioated further, so it may be better to work out some deals ahead of time in the forum to avoid long negotiations. Of course, if you want to keep the deal secret.....

And as for Gold, we humans are smarter than the AI's, so don't try to rush to get Polytheism because the AI will give you oodles of techs for it, a human will only trade you one tech for it, chances are.

Likewise in teh Industrial age don't expect to sell a tech for 200 GPT because no human is gonna go for that unless they are way rich or have an evil scheme up their sleave.

Yeh if I offered anyone 200gpt it would be because I was attacking them next turn :mad:

Is Blocki still bogarting the game?[pimp]

Yeah, i'd liek at least one turn a day. Not a full 8 person rotation, but at least teh game moving form one guy to the next per day. These games require constant activity and participation people. Not to mention communication.

Hey, I just started a new thread here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79694) offering to host a PBEM game--anybody interested?

This game doesn't look to be going anywhere soon.

Blocki has 7 more hours left before 24 hours have past since my last post explaining I had not kicked him yet. If I fail to receive an email by then I will take my turn and keep the game going. We have 7 people still that's plenty I'm sure the rest of you can't be bothered waiting for another.

Originally posted by Tweedledee
I'm still in, played and sent to Blocki.

This was posted Feb 21, 2004 11:47 PM it is now Feb 23, 2004 8:46 so it has been 45 hours since Tweedledee sent the file to Blocki

Personally, with mounting evidence, i think Blocki is less than interested in this game, and not taking it as seriousely as some of us which holds it up and makes it suck for the more dedicated. If we don't hear from him by tomorrow, i think he's gonna have to be tossed.

Ok Blocki's time limit expired and he will not be playing anymore as we all have only done one turn I took the liberty to start a new game with same settings just the 7 of us. Hope nobody minds, sorry to those who lost your uber start locations.

4000 bc has been sent to CaptainCommando

I will start posting more actively, this is my first PBEM and I didn't realize how important communications are.

For future reference, if anyone wants to create deals with me, I can be reached by email (I check it several times an hour, I'm anxious for a certain Worlds of Warcraft Beta email) or by PM (I will start checking these boards at least once a day, more than likely five or six times a day) and would prefer deals agreed to before-hand so that we don't waste turns in-game.

Secondly, I'm sincerely sorry for those of you who lost amazing starting positions. That must suck, but hopefully you'll at least still get a decent place (and hopefully this time *I'll* be the one with an amazing starting position :goodjob: ) Anyways, since the game has restarted does anyone want to share what their original godly starting position was?

Mine wasn't all that hot, just had like a bonus grassland and some hills that would be nice in the future, but it was pretty weak as starting positions go :(

Tweedledee: My sincere apologies; you are by all appearances quite the opposite of what I first assumed. Your response was mature and I really appreciate your explaining the situation, rather than just fighting fire with fire. I am glad you're still in and look forward to playing with ya :)

Everyone: If you betray or backstab me in-game, I won't be upset about it out-of-game... but I will try my best to take you out with me, so be warned ;)

And I'm glad we're restarting, because if this game is going to get done before we all die of natural causes, we'll definately need everyone to be serious about playing.

Oh, and just so everyone knows, this weekend I'll be gone from friday around 2 until sunday around 6 (EST), so my apologies if I get the .sav during this time and hold the game up. I am still quite serious about playing, and this should not happen very often at all.

Edit: Grammar and had to fix a smilie

I'll be on the road myself for Friday and Saturday for sure, I'm not sure about Sunday...

Just a heads-up, I'll be gone Friday-Monday. Hopefully that won't cause too many problems.

Argh! I started surrounded by grasslands with bonus shields! Some hills for production/iron! Luxuries! Next to a river with goody huts and i was expansionist!

But seriousely i don't really care ;)

I'm far too enamoured with teh idea of playign with other people to give a damn about starts or terrain. Ok, i'm gonna go take my turn now, hope i don't start in the jungle :D

Grandmaster, is that sarcasm? :(

Well, my new starting position isn't as good, but it's not bad. It's near a river, there are luxuries nearby, in fact, only real problem is there are marshlands aways off, otehrwise it's still pretty good.

Ok, E-Mail sent to Rocinate in about 2 minutes....

No, it's not sarcasm, I'm actually going on a field trip to the Virgin Islands Friday-Monday, and I actually hope it doesn't cause any problems.

We're having enough trouble with this PBEM already without me going away. But hopefully it'll all work out. :)

:lol:

Heh heh, I was thinking that you were perhaps joking since two of us prior to your post were saying we wouldn't be able to play over the weekend!

I don't have a problem with it personally, although I'll lament the game sitting idle for a week ;)

Game sent to Grandmaster. My original start was pretty good with a grassland cattle and a grassland bonus tile.

I only have one thing to say about my new start postition[dance]

I haven't received the email yet. I'll wait a bit and check my in-box again. If it doesn't turn up, then you'll have to resend it.

My original start location was nice. Bonus grassland, cattle, river... mmm.... beef.

The e-mail hasn't materialized in my mailbox, so I'm wondering if maybe it wasn't sent right? Rocinante, could you try sending it again, please?

And just to make sure that you have the adress right, it's Leven9999 (at) aol.com.

Just re-sent to your saved address and again with hand typing your address in. Let me know which one if either makes it to you.

K, thanks. When I get 'em I'll tell you which one it was.

Game received. Rocinante, the e-mail I got was the one entitled "third time Kaboth's PBEM". Leads me to believe the address on the other ones might have been typed wrong.

I'll play and send the save tomorrow after school.

EDIT: Also just got the one called "Kaboth PBEM turn 1". Not sure what order you sent 'em in, but I received them in the above order.

I'm jus tposting to say i'll be gone friday night through sunday, but i'll be back sunday night to play, so we won't really be losing too much time, chances are it won't even be back to me by then, but i just wanted to warn everyone.

Save sent to Warlord Sam.

Save sent to Superslug.

Received, I'll play in the morning when I get home from work.

Game sent to Tweedledee...Just a reminder to everyone, I'm still planning on being out of town Fri/Sat, but that may change given the ungodly amount of snow we're getting. If I do go, rest assured my last action upon leaving and first action upon returning will be posting here.

EDIT: forgot to capitalize Tweedledee...

3950 BC sent to Kaboth

3950 bc sent to CaptainCommando

Sent to Rocinate, part on, Wayne! :D

3950BC sent to Grandmaster.

Save played and sent. Gonna be gone till Monday night.

Played and sent to Superslug

Game received, I'll play my turn when I get home in the morning before I leave town.

Game sent.

3900 BC sent to Kaboth

Hitting the road until Sunday...sorry! Gotta help family move...
EDIT: Trip delayed 18 hours due to weather.
2DIT: On the road, back Sunday? Monday?

I sent 3900 bc on to CC at least a day ago. I believe he is away atm.

I am back

Me too, and i have a bunch of PBEM to play and sort out, but don't worry, the game will be moving again by today.

Alrighty then, the game is moving along. Sent to Rocinate.

Sent to Grandmaster.

Back online...

Game played and sent.

Sent it to Superslug

Game received. Game analyzed for ways to kill each of you today. Analysis failed. Game played and sent again...:wallbash:

3850 BC sent to Kaboth

Game sent on to CC again. Pretty good turnover guys. nice work.

Sent to Rocinate

Sent to GrandMaster

Played and sent.

I haven't received it yet, might be having some email problems. Will update when I go to bed in a few hours.

You might want to resend it, I've been having some issues with the email account, and I think I'll be setting up a new one for the important emails, on a more reliable server, so my apologies for the troubles and rest assured they'll soon be eliminated.

Try sending to both the original address and
suntoumari at hotmail dot com
until I can set up a new account, if you don't mind.

Resent to both addresses.

Thanks, played and sent

Received, played, transmitted.

3800 BC sent to Kaboth

Sent to CaptainCommando

Sent to Rocinate.

Sent to Grandmaster

3800 BC sent.

Played and sent

Received, played, transmitted. I should have my second ICBM constructed in a few turns. I tested my first one on my worker.

Originally posted by superslug
I should have my second ICBM constructed in a few turns. I tested my first one on my worker.
I was wondering why your worker had three arms and two heads, must be the radiation.

3750 BC sent to Kaboth

Sent to CC.

Yeh I got warrior! Now I can do something :)

Sent to Rocinate, my settler is ready to explore :)

sent to Grandmaster

My warrior really tied on one last night and is currently sleeping it off, I'll kick him awake in the morning--its so hard to get good help these days!

I don't see anything posted by Grandmaster the last few pages saying he's out of town or anything and it's been over 24 hours. Anyone know what up?

No idea :(

Sorry, i have the save. I've been kinda busy the last 2 days, I'll play the save immediately and send it.

Sorry. :(

Played and sent.

Played and sent

My email seems to be working okay, but I don't seem to have it yet...

Resent to superslugger

SOrry guys, but i'm gonna be gone until SUnday, i know this will slow down the game, i didn't see it coming, bummer. But rest assured i am very much still in the game and will play my turn on SUnday night when i'm back.

@Warlord Sam: I have no idea why the first never showed, but the second one came through fine. Played, sent on to Tweed...

@CaptainCommando: Just because we're Civ players doesn't mean we don't have lives. I for one appreciate your communication...

Well, I for one don't have a life =D But I live vicariously through those of you who do, so more power to ya Cap'n! Have fun or be succesful, whatever. :)

Superslug, I tried sending it through my school email account, thinking that it was better. I have a new permanent email account, now.

ATTN: Grandmaster, my new permanent email address is

nachosamurai (at) verizon (dot) net

This replaces any previous email addresses I've given you, and it is definately reliable :) Not like that dang school account. Sorry for the trouble bro!

The rest of you: No hard feelings when I dominate this PBEM game, eh? :cool:

Originally posted by Warlord Sam
No hard feelings when I dominate this PBEM game, eh? :cool:
I'll try not to tug your puppet strings too hard.

sent to Kaboth

@Sam: Alright, I'll make sure to send the next save to your new account. Not that it'll matter much, your civ already being wiped out and all... :p

Sent to CC

Just a heads up to everyone The retail C3C v1.20 patch is out very soon, keep a look out for an announcement on Civfanatics and update asap.

Originally posted by CaptainCommando
will play my turn on SUnday night when i'm back.
Well its now Monday morning and I'm not waiting up for you any longer.

CC it should be Monday afternoon/evening your time and still no save of any of your games. If I don't see some turns tomorrow morning (my time) we may have to continue without you.

Ok I took CC's turn and sent to Rocinante. If CC doesn't show by the end of today I'll try and get a replacement for him.

sent to Grandmaster

Received. No time to play right now. I'll play it tomorrow. Sorry.

Not to rock the boat, but I'm failing to understand how people don't have time to play their fifth PBEM turn, but *do* have the time to post and say they don't have the time. It takes all of two minutes.

And I'm not trying to pick on you, Grandmaster, its not the first time someone has posted and said that. I just genuinely do not understand; if there's something I don't get, please feel me in.

I can't speak for others, but in my case it's quite typical that I'm at work where I can post my heart out but don't have a computer with CivIII loaded on it.

Ohhhh, well that makes perfect sense!

I found a replacement for CC hopefully he will start posting here when I send him the next turn from CC

@Sam: My problem in this case is that I'm busting my ass trying to get ready for a major event (a Model Congress that my school is hosting, and that I'm chairing a comittee at) that, in conjunction with an atypical amount of homework, is taking up all of my time. Like I said, I'll try to get it played today when I get home.

Played and sent.

Played and sent

hello people!
i'm replacing that CaptainCommando dude :cool:

see you on the battlefield!
:soldier:

Originally posted by EliitMees
see you on the battlefield!
:soldier:
Welcome to the game! Can you do me a favor? Grab a shovel and start digging your grave? I don't have enough workers yet to dig everyone's at once...:lol:

EDIT: Almost forgot why I surfed to this thread: Game received, played, transmitted...

3650 BC sent to Kaboth

Sent to EliitMees

Hey EliitMees, check your capitol's terrain info.

and why should i do that?

btw turn sent to Rocinante

Sent to Grandmaster

EliitMess--I took over for CC in another game and was just curious whether he settled in the same spot you would have chosen.

the spot looks alright to me :)

All of you are welcome to join the channel #Kaboth's_pbem by first connecting to the Quakenet US server on MIRC. I'm in the channel as I post this.

Played & Sent.

Received, get off work in a few hours...

...and a few hours later the game is played for one more turn and sent on along it's merry way down the river of rotation we run!

3600 BC to Kaboth

Sent to EliitMees

sent to Rocinante

sent to Grandmaster

Hey guys, I'm going to be out of town this weekend, most likely Friday-Monday.

I think its been more than 2 days since Grandmaster received the game.

Played and sent. Sorry about that. :(

No problem :)

Played and sent

Back in town early, played and sent...

3550 BC sent to Kaboth

Sent to EliitMees

sent to Grandmaster

Am I the only one getting a little tired of Grandmaster's holding things up?

You're not the only one.

me, too

Sorry guys, I hate to admit it, but I really can't keep up any more. I didn't want to have to do this, but please, find somebody to replace me. I'm really sorry, but life is starting to suck time-wise, and I don't want to keep holding everyone up. :(

I have some time for another PBEM game. I can take Grandmaster's place. I can play at least once a day, usually two or three times actually. My e-mail is:

greeneclan AT mchsi DOT com

Dogboy has played with me in other games and seems to have a good history of faithful pbem playing here. Your most welcome to replace GM. GM thanks for coming up front with this and save us the wondering where you might be.

Everyone make sure to patch up to v1.20 asap

Originally posted by Kaboth
Everyone make sure to patch up to v1.20 asap
Oh god. Now I have to put in a 2nd install...

Originally posted by Kaboth
Everyone make sure to patch up to v1.20 asap


AFAIK older C3C save games, can't be loaded in v1.20

I just loaded a 1.15 game onto 1.20 and played it okay.

Oh god. Now I have to put in a 2nd install...

Superslug you should be able to write straight over beta 1.15 no reinstall necessary. Why do you need a second install, I'm sure everyone would change to 1.20 no reason not to.

1.15 games will load into 1.20. But when a 1.20 sav file is sent on the receiver will need 1.20 in order for C3C to load it as stated in readme

Originally posted by Kaboth
Why do you need a second install, I'm sure everyone would change to 1.20 no reason not to.
I'm currently up to my arse in another Hall of Fame run started under 1.15. For those campaigns I prefer to finish the game under the patch under which it was started. The chances of my game being disqualified on a related technicality are slim, but a duplicated installation will only take two minutes, whereas losing that game would cost me hundreds of hours...It's not a risk I'm willing to take.

I figure most of the PBEMs will be out of action over the v1.2 thing--which is okay because GOTM30 (http://gotm.civfanatics.net/games/gotm30_features.shtml) was just released and I can get my jollies with some good old Vanilla Civ3

but a duplicated installation will only take two minutes
Out of interest how do you do a duplicate install? Wouldn't setup detect C3C has already been installed elsewhere.

He might have partitioned his harddrive, or else he has multiple harddrives. There's probably other ways you could do it, but that's the only two ways I can think of upon first waking up after a night of partying.

I thought I read in the patch's readme that single player games (or maybe it was hotseat specifically) won't be able to load into 1.20? That only PBEM games would work for it? I hope that's not how it is. So, who has the .sav? Is it back in rotation?

It was last sent to Grandmaster according to the thread...if Rocinante still has the transmitted save he should send it to Dogboy. Either that or Grandmaster. Anyway, Dogboy will need Grandmaster's password won't he?

sent to Dogboy

That's a fast response! :goodjob:

Now I guess that just leaves a password issue...assuming there is one. (Can't you tell this is my first PBEM?)

I just emailed Grandmaster asking him to forward the password to Dogboy.

Christ, I could have done that myself instead of whining about it in the thread...I'm going to bed!

Okay, just sent the save to Kaboth in case he needs to use the admin password to cancel out Grandmaster's old one.

Received from the new guy, played and sent.

Game received, I'll play it as soon as I can but I have to get the dual installation figured out first.

Also, do we need to upgrade from 1.20 to 1.22?

I don't think we should upgrade to 1.22. Apparently that one is messed up.

I didn't even know 1.22 was out, I am currently on 1.20.

I'll play on 1.20 then until we hear from Kaboth. I should have my dual install nailed in a few minutes.

Played, transmitted.

Ok thanks guys for making sure Dogboy had the password and all. I have Grandmasters password but seeing Dogboy's got it already that's great.

According to civfanatics 1.22 doesn't offer much and there will be a patch next week that includes the content of 1.20 and 1.22 in one file so maybe we'll wait for that.

However if you have already patched up to 1.22 perhaps you should revert back; the new patch seems to have bugs loading 1.20 sav files. Sorry about that.

The transmitted save is 1.20.

3500 BC sent to Kaboth

3500 bc sent to eliit mees

3500 BC sent to Rocinante

sent to dogboy last night

It's been over 24 hours since the last post and I would assume more than 24 hours since the game was sent...

For the record 1.22 standalone just released still won't load 1.20 files so unless Firaxis releases a patch that will load 1.20 saves whe'll have to stay on 1.20.

The readme says 1.22 should load 1.20 savs but it doesn't, you get errors instead.

For those of you understandably who want to play 1.22 single player just be sure to do a dual install.

I re-sent the game to Dogboy

I sincerely hope that we can get things going now. If I do not receive the game by noonish on Friday the 8th, then I won't be able to send it on until late Sunday night. Hope you guys have a good Easter!

I was just looking around to see if Dogboy has posted elsewhere since he got sent the game and I came across this post:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1742328#post1742328

I don't have the game. I played and sent it already the other day. Just don't post here often.

Originally posted by superslug

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1742328#post1742328

That's not really the way I like to play a game.

Originally posted by DogBoy
I don't have the game. I played and sent it already the other day. Just don't post here often.
You're supposed to post an update when you play and send the game...

Who was he supposed to send it too? Me? If so, I never got it, and didn't know to contact him about it because he never posted.

As to this cheat program, is it true? I couldn't tell if he was being sarcastic or what... Is that really true?

I don't know if it was sarcasm or not, but I thought it worth bringing to attention since we obviously need to address him regarding his reliability anyway.

It was complete sarcasm. And if anybody who is following that thread can't figure that out, well, don't know what to say about that. I doubt there is any cheat programs out there that will allow you to do what JShelR is crying about. And if there was, I certainly wouldn't use it. And if I did, I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it.

As for my reliablity being questioned, whatever. I guess whenever you make a joke and someone doesn't "get it" because they haven't been following the thread, they question your integrity. I guess somehow that translates into holding up a game, but I can't figure out how. I have never been accused of holding up a game so I guess there is a first time for everything. I will resend the game because apparently Warlord Sam never got it.

And Tweedledee, I can't believe you didn't think that was a sarcastic remark. And I wonder if you think I cheated, eh? I guess I could mention how I don't think it's possible you got more techs than me in the archipalegeo game other than you must have cheated. But that would make me sound like a whiny little b!tch now wouldn't it? I couldn't possibly fathom you meeting an AI civ and trading techs. Or you couldn't possibly meet the other human player in that game and trade techs with him. So I guess you must have cheated. Well, instead of accusing you of somehow using the WELL KNOWN "tech cheat", I know you traded with others and that's how you got ahead. You see, the first time someone, such as JShelR, doesn't understand the game he cries "CHEAT!" How many messages are in all these forums that start out saying "found a bug". And them everybody flocks to that message saying "IT'S A BUG, IT'S A CHEAT!, CALL FIRAXIS NOW." Only to have someone say it's not a bug and this is why something happened. Everybody says "ahh, it's not a bug, it's not a cheat." And then four hours later you see another post looking very similar. I swear, people who don't understand the game should either learn how to play it, or stop whining if they can't figure out how to play it.

I have never attacked anyone personally on this board. It's all been directed at the character in game. However, I'm willing to make an exception this time. Shame on you, Tweedledee, superslug, and JShelR.

Sending the game now.

Dogboy, there's three different things I wish to address:

1) Don't target Tweed and JShelR. JShelR hasn't posted in this thread, and Tweed wasn't the one that linked to your post. I posted the link, if you have a problem, deal with me. Whether or not this is a bone to pick I leave to you.

2) Sarcasm, eh? Now that the server has let me read that thread entirely, I'm inclined to agree and I consider that matter closed.

3) I never would have gone looking for your post activity if you had posted within 24 hours saying you sent the game like your supposed to! Since you've now updated this thread with your activity, I consider that matter closed for the moment unless you ever let us down again...

First off, I'm sorry for not getting the sarcasm. I didn't have the interest vested in the subject to delve deeper than the linked page. Secondly, I do think that you're coming across as sorta harsh and maybe unreasonable.

BUT, I do whole-heartedly believe that you're incredibly pissed because you've been wrongfully accused of cheating. I know that I, myself, would be very unreasonable and very offensive/harsh to just about anyone, in that given situation. I propose that when you cool down, you reread the posts that were made in our PBEM thread, and if you feel like apologizing about anything, then you can.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, because I know that even the best people can have a bad mood or bad day, and I also feel like you've quite possibly been wronged. Additionally, I think that forums are notoriously horrible for misunderstandings....

Within all of that, you can start sending the .sav files to suntoumari at hotmail dot com instead of the posted address, because I'm having horrible problems with receiving emails there.

Hope that this all works out, and that your other game also works out.

Warlord Sam,
So I guess you didn't get the game again because I sent it to you and you never replied, yet you posted here. Ok, I will send the game again since you are having problems getting e-mails. Would be hard for me to cool down, as I haven't gotten riled up yet. And as for apologizing for anything said, not going to happen as there is nothing I need to apologize for.

Sending now to new e-mail address.

Yes Dogboys post was fairly obvious sarcasm if you read the preceeding posts. Ussually I refrain from posting sarcasm, its far to volatile and likely to be misinterepreted on the Internet.

It does raise some concerns though imagine if someone did make a civ3 hack? Generally such cheaters lack the patience for a game like Civ.

Dogboy, Tweedledee has misinterpreted me before also as you'll read earlier in the thread, English isn't his first langauge so take that into consideration. I would prefer it if you could post everytime you play a turn Dogboy, it is in the rules page 1 that everyone agreed to before starting this game. Rocinante lets you get away with it in his game but thats only 4 players when you have 8 its far more important to track the turn movement. Personally I have this forum thread bookmarked so while I wait for hotmail to upload the save I type a quick "sent to ____" message.

I promise, from now on, I am going to reply to file senders saying "got it". I do try to post here after playing but I have missed a few and so can't get on anyone's case about the occasional miss but it shouldn't be a regular habit to not post here. Having a lot of games going is not an excuse.

Being nice is good, but is not a prerequisite for playing Civ3 so if anyone rubs anyone else the wrong way--just ignore them, remember, for some players getting their opponent riled up is a tactic to get them to make a mistaek.

I received the file this time, but there seems to be a problem. Its asking for Superslugger's password. So I'm guessing you sent me the wrong file, somehow, or something.

I think what I got is the file that was sent to you, this turn.

Er, so confused. :(

PS: It just occurred to me that Superslugger is the guy I'm supposed to send it to... so I think that I may have the file after all, double checking... er, this is embarrassing...

PPS: Played and sent, I think I clicked "no" when it asked if I wanted to replace the .sav file, and I am quite flustered due to packing, fixing dinner, and a few other things going on. Sorry guys :( And sorry that I won't be able to reply until later Sunday, for those of you who celebrate: Happy Easter!!

I promise, from now on, I am going to reply to file senders saying "got it".

Check with the sender if they're ok with this personally I find it more annoying. Means more emails to delete.

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What's up with the Civ3 forum database? I'm guessing everyone else is having problems, judging from Kaboth's double post :p

I sure am

Yeah, Thunderfall posted in Site Feedback that Telefragged is trying to nail down a bug. We may lose the forums entirely before they come back up to full speed.

Is the game supposed to be headed my way? I haven't seen it yet...

Hopefully, because I sent it and got a response that it was received.

Yeah, he said it was coming my way...we'll just have to wait and see. Emails do get held up sometimes...

:( Uhoh, I hope it gets to you; I sent it Thursday night..

If not, I'll have to wait until Sunday evening to resend, I'm not at home right now. Sorry if the game's held up that long.

@Warlord: I just remembered you posted a page ago that you had changed email addresses. It's *possible* that I received it and deleted it with the rest of the daily spam since I was still looking for the old header.

Whenever you can resend is cool, this one's likely my bad. Sorry!

Probably not your fault you deleted it. I didn't see where he posted that said he sent it, and according to the rules, you are supposed to post here when you send it.

I think he did:
Originally posted by Warlord Sam
PS: It just occurred to me that Superslugger is the guy I'm supposed to send it to... so I think that I may have the file after all, double checking... er, this is embarrassing...

My bad if I didn't clearly say that I sent it. I mean, I did read the rules the moment I joined the game, so I certainly knew that I should have. Its not like I have the excuse "I didn't read the rules when I committed to the game", or anything. Nope, I just forgot. :rolleyes:

Again, my bad.