View Full Version : Launching my first civ: The Brazilians (version 1.0)


CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 22, 2004, 08:55 AM
You download the old version of the race "The Brazilians" in this post, click in the links below. To check my new version (leader 3d), go to http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=1882356#post1882356

The files to download the old version are:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/brazilians01_-_011.zip
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/brazilians01_-_02.zip


Have fun using the first arts developed by CivArmy creator, enjoy this classic!!!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/lula2d2.jpg

These characteristics were defined to Brazilian Civilization:

Civ Name: The Brazilians.
Bonuses: Religious and Agricultural (C3C) or Religious and Commercial (Vanilla and PTW).
Title and Leader Name: Companheiro Lula.
Favorite and Shunned Government: Republic and Feudalism (C3C) or Republic and Monarchy (Vanilla and PTW).
Aggression Level: 03 (moderate).
Culture Group: American.
Noun: Brazilians.
Adjective: Brazilian.
Default and Alternative colors: Yellow (the same of the Egyptians) and Blue (the same of the Germans).
Unique Unit: Embraer Tucano
Civilopedia entry: RACE_BRAZILIANS

Military Leaders:
Duque de Caxias
Deodoro da Fonseca
Floriano Peixoto
Dom Pedro II
Getúlio Vargas

Scientific Leaders:
Santos Dummond
Vital Brasil
Herculano Florence
Padre Roberto Landell de Moura
Machado de Assis

City Names:
Brasília
São Paulo
Rio de Janeiro
Belo Horizonte
Salvador
Porto Alegre
Fortaleza
Recife
Curitiba
Campinas
Goiânia
Belém
Manaus
São Luiz
Guarulhos
Santos
Santo André
São Bernardo do Campo
Osasco
Barueri
São José dos Campos
Vitória
Campo Grande
Florianópolis
Cuiabá
Natal
Maceió
João Pessoa
Teresina
Aracajú
Palmas
Rio Branco
Macapá
Porto Velho
Boa Vista
Sorocaba
Ribeirão Preto
Bauru
Presidente Prudente
Jundiaí
Piracicaba
São Carlos
Araçatuba
São José do Rio Preto
Niterói
São Gonçalo
Campos
Petrópolis
Uberlândia
Uberaba
Betim
Juiz de Fora
Londrina
Maringá
Caxias do Sul
Gramado
Pelotas
Camboriú
Blumenau
Olinda
Campina Grande
Porto Seguro
Juazeiro
Petrolina
Santarém
São Caetano do Sul
Diadema
Limeira
Taubaté
São Sebastião
Jacareí
Mogi das Cruzes
Rio Claro
Americana
Paulínia
Jaguariúna
Vinhedo
Indaiatuba
Itu
Franca
Araraquara
Barretos
Botucatu
Barra Bonita

Civilopedia, the Brazilians:

The mix of European, African, Native American and Asiatic cultures results in the Brazilian Civilization. It started in XV century, when pioneer sailors coming from Portugal arrived in present day Brazilian territory.
These lands were inhabitant by native Indian races, as the Tupis, Jês, Karibs and Aruaks, that were killed by the superior European armies. The survivors were enslaved or were married to their new masters. First, the Portuguese arrived, to explore the unique wood Pau-Brasil (origin of the name Brazil) and plant crops, then later the French, English, Dutch, Spanish and other nations, to plunder and conquer new lands.
There were many wars in this Portuguese colony, because it had natural resources and rich soil for agriculture. These wars happened between Portugal, rival nations and the colonists. The economical activities were based on things such as wood, sugar, exotic plants, gold and cafe. These activities were all important in Brazil. In the cycle of sugar, for example, the northeast coast, the main area of this activity, ruled all the life in colony. When the importance of sugar died down and the gold rush began, the southeast became the economical, political and cultural heart of Brazil.
The main method originally used by the Portuguese to support their economy in Brazil was slavery. Africans were enslaved in their continent, to work in the crops and mines in colony. They came mainly from nowadays Mozambique and Angola, former Portuguese colonies in south of Africa. Slavery was abolished only in XIX century, creating many chances for poor Europeans and Asians that dreamed of a better life. So, people from Italy, Japan, Middle East, Korea, more Portuguese, Spanish and others arrived in the country.
Brazil attained political independence in 1822, when Dom Pedro I, A PORTUGUESE PRINCE, declared Brazil and Portugal two separated kingdoms. He did that so his family could continue to rule both countries. When his father died, Dom Pedro I went back to Portugal to take over the royal seat, his son, Dom Pedro II, continued ruling in Brazil. The Empire was replaced when the Republic was declared in 1889. The Republic continues today, but stopped in two periods: from 1930 until 1945, when the popular farmer Getúlio Vargas ran a bloody dictatorship and from 1964 until 1986, when the army took over the country, supported by United States of America government, saying that URSS had a plan to invade Brazilian boarders.
Brazil today has one of the 15th largest GNP of the entire world and has good prospects for the future, in spite of the constant crises: agribusiness, commerce, factories and tourism developed quickly in the XX century, along with the highest tax rate in the Western World, higher than in the United States. The natural resources, such as drinking water, are abundance in the rain forests and attract International interests. The worst problem of the country is the division of the wealth, resulting in favelas (shantytowns), urban violence, landless people, starvation and diseases. Because of this problem and its consequences, people say that Brazil is a sleeping giant.
The great leader of the Brazilians in Civilization 3 game is Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the Companheiro Lula (expression used by workers of industries that means "fellow"), former labor leader in the past, actual President of the country (2003 to 2006), elected by voting. Lula has ample popular support and fights against the bad situation of the majority of the population. After elected President, he started a Foreign Relationship plan between Brazil and other poor countries to combat together common problems and the aggressive economical politics of the rich nations, thus turning into a national and international leader.
In Civilizaton 3 Conquests, the Brazilians are considered Religious (the country has the biggest concentration of the Christian people around the Planet) and Agricultural (agriculture and extractives are important activities in the history of the nation). In the Vanilla and Play the World version, they are Religious and Commercial.

Civilopedia, Embraer Tucano (UU):

Embraer Tucano is the result of a national project started in 1978 to replace the older war airplanes of the Brazilian Air Force (FAB). Tucanos are building by Embraer, one of the biggest airplane companies in the entire world. The recently versions of Tucano are the best airplanes that use helix ever built, they are easy to be build and have bigger sphere of action. Some countries have bought this airplane, such as England, France, Iraq, Argentina and Venezuela.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 22, 2004, 08:57 AM
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/brazilians011.jpg

uploads always in this topic

A versão em Português da imagem do post 01
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/lula2d.jpg

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 22, 2004, 08:58 AM
Preview of Embraer Tucano, UU of the Brazilians

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/tucano01.gif


Use http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Tucano.zip to download the old version, I hope construction a better one soon.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 22, 2004, 09:00 AM
Preview os unit Cangaceiro, alternative UU (replace Rifleman)

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 22, 2004, 09:01 AM
no preview available. Dragões da República replace Cavalry.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 22, 2004, 09:02 AM
No preview. Mirage2000 replace Jet Fighter.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 24, 2004, 01:49 PM
No preview. Pracinha are the UU of the fantasy civ Paulistas and replace Marines.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 24, 2004, 08:17 PM
No preview

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 24, 2004, 08:19 PM
No preview

lost
Feb 27, 2004, 04:26 PM
This is really cool, im going to try it out, There are just suggestions you don't have to take them Maybe Brasilia should not be the first city being that it was built in the late 50s- early 60s, Salvador would be better being the first city in Brazil. Maybe you should make the leader D.Pedro II because Lula really hasen't done anything major (me being Brazilian living in Brazil I know this), and D.Pedro was the last monarch leader of Brazil before the republica velha. On the other hand, I really like the unique unit, and the scientific and military leaders are quite right, but don't use pele, he was a soccer player, make him anther great author, or president. The other thing, lower their aggrestion level...Brazil hasen't been involved sending troops to help a war, or in a war since WWII when they were very supportive towards the Nazi movement and the Fascist Movement in Italy. For C3C the shunned should be Monarchy, for the Brazilians did everything to rid themselves of the monarchy, including changing flags, national anthem, because to them the monarchy was evil. On C3C brazil should be Agricultural, thats good, and also Industrial, because brazil is one the fastest industrial developing nations at the moment. On Vanilla and PTW, agricultural should be commercial, thats good.

These few changse could be useful, as I mentioned, if you want to, ignore these suggestions, I can see where youre coming from for some things like aggression 4, being that brazil does have a strong army, but they use it for their own defense. Anyway, I'm still gonna download the mod, as I have seen you appear to do a pretty good job.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 27, 2004, 07:33 PM
Nickname Lost, thanks for enjoying my project! Try later another one done by myself, The Tupis (Native Indians), coming soon available in CivFanatics and other forums around the Internet. The preview is yet available here, in Civ Fanatics forums. Oh, the Brazilian UU has some errors, I’m fixing them and I’m going post the fixed version this weekend. Here come the answers of my choices (major city, aggressive level…), if you disagree with my view, please, post a new replay:
- I chose Brasília as the capital, because the city is our capital and not much people around the world know that. That’s a way to teach them that Brasília is the capital, not Rio, neither Buenos Aires. I homage Salvador and Rio de Janeiro, our former capitals, putting them like Medieval and Industrial eras scenarios of Lula leaderhead. The ancient age has like scenario a beach from Porto Seguro, the official “discovery” place. If I would have to choice the first city founded in Brazil like the capital, I had to choose Capitania de São Vicente (nowadays São Paulo coast), not Salvador, the second city would be Porto Seguro. The city names listed by actual importance is a good choice.
- I chose Lula like the Great Leader on Civ, because Civ has few nowadays leaders, I think it is a good idea put some one to represent our modern era. I also thought about Dom Pedro I and II, Getúlio Vargas, Juscelino Kubitschek, Deodoro da Fonseca, Marques de Pombal and Fernando Henrique Cardoso. I think the Brazilian great leader must be a Brazilian, not a Portuguese as Dom Pedro II, he must be popular, not involved with dictatorships, corruption or domain classes and he must fight for a better country. Lula was born in Brazil, was a labor leader since the 70’, comes from the people and represent our era, so, I think he is a better choose between the other ones. I disagree with you when you say that he did nothing for the country, I’m not a “Petistas” and voted in his party just in few elections, but I think Lula fought for the people in the past and continues fight as the President. All the problems were not solved, but I think the country situation will be better when his government has ended. Beyond this, I think his external and economical politics are adequate for our actual situation.
- I putted Pelé as scientific leader, because he brought happiness to the country, he is popular, he is a leader, how he is not a military one, I putted as a scientific. Just a homage to the King! I had to add to this list Sérgio Buarque de Holanda and Oswaldo Cruz.
- The aggressive level comes to level 04, I explain it with two sad words: urban violence. Unfortunate we have one of the highest urban violence taxes of the entire Planet, if our people were pacific, we have not owned this too elevated taxes. Brazilians respects the foreign nations, but they don’t respect their own compatriots, using extreme violence to attack and defend themselves.
- I agree with you about Monarch Times being damage to Brazilian majority people, but when the Portuguese had came and started extract Pau-Brasil and cultivate sugar cane, like happens in Feudalist system, it hurt more the country then the Monarch times. So, Feudalism is worst then Monarch to Brazil.
- The original project shows The Brazilians with Industrious and Religious bonuses, after have read forums suggestions, I changed to Religious and Agricultural. I chose Religious, because the country has the biggest concentration of the Christian people around the Planet and chose Agricultural by the importance of the agriculture in the 500 years of the history. Today the industrious activity (including manufacture) is more important then the agricultural one, but for 450 years the agricultural ruled the country life. Soybean, cafe, sugar cane, the cattleman, extractives activities and agribusiness research are important today to national economy.

Nickname Lost, those are my explains, if you have more suggestions or disagree with them, please, post a new replay.

Thanks!!!

Daniel.

jonatas
Feb 28, 2004, 03:09 PM
Don't forget Brazil has one of the strongest agricultures in the world. The only way the United States and European Union compete with Brazil in agriculture is by giving massive subsidies to their own farmers. If it weren't for the american and european subsidies to Agriculture, Brazil would so sell so much fruit, vegetable and livestock to these countries that many aspects of agriculture would not be economically viable in the United States or European Union (for example, oranges). I'm serious...
Agriculture does not reflect just the past of Brazil, it is also part of Brazil's present. Most countries in the world do not have even a fraction of the natural resources that Brazil has.

Anway, I'm finally downloading the civ... I look forward to playing it!

Komori
Feb 29, 2004, 12:53 AM
Hm, although I can see were did that come from, I do not believe it would be correct to represent Brazil as Religious really. We have, of course, strong religious manners, in our fashion. But our religious sense is no stronger than U.S.'s and they are not described as religious, are they? We are Agricultural, indeed. And commercial, I would say. Not religious, no.

Save that and the agression level, I found your work remarkable. I just thing it's funny, you know, to have brazilians and americans in early game, when we didn't actually exist. Unlike some European nations, who were built from the very beggining of man's civilization, I suppose... Well, we didn't. We are fruit of a mix (or, not being kind with words, domination), we were colonies.
I thing the game should include those concepts. Nations being born from nations. Like in some old civ I remember playing, that when you took the capitol city of someone, there was a chance of a new nation to rise. But, hm, I'm wondering of, am I not?
Huh, well done sir. And hello community. This is my frist post, after all.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 29, 2004, 07:59 AM
Komori, thank you for your feedback. I'm posting to explain some choisen itens of The Brazilians:
- Brazil has too many Catholic people, here born one strong current of the Protestant religion (I'm talking about Edir Macedo), Church is present in the life of majority people and government, today and in the past. The Carnival born in a religious act, not Christian, but religious. For this reason I choose Religious like bonuses. Our country is unique, we could be Industrious, Agricultural, Commercial, Expansionists, and why not Seafaring (ports, large coast...), Scientifics (research in some specifics areas, like agribusiness and cure for tropical deseases) or Militaristics (the investiment in the army technologies was large in Military Dictadorship). The choose was Religious and Agricultural (Commercial to Vanilla and PTW).
- The 04 like aggression level is for the urban violence, it is not possible a pacific people has the taxs of the Brazilian one.
- Komori, I'm doing the civilization The Tupis, coming soon available in the Internet forums. In CivFanatics you can find a preview of the arts and other characteristics. If you enjoy older civs as the Europeans ones, you will enjoy The Tupis.

People, do not forget to check my new project out, the Argentinians, available in CivFanatics initial forum!!!

Regards and thanks for all the feedbacks! The projects (Brazilians, Tupis, Argentinians, Tucano...) just get better with your feedbacks!

D@nIe.l

lost
Feb 29, 2004, 02:32 PM
The only thing I still strongly disagree with is 04 aggression, I don't believe that urban violence influences the aggression, because to me aggression was military aggression, and although Brazil does have a good army we don't get involved in wars. Maybe you just see aggression as how everyone acts and I guess we all have our own interpretations:)which is cool

mutante
Feb 29, 2004, 03:15 PM
hey , civ´s army , i see a problem. Dom Pedro II was brazilian and Princess Isabel too. They was the only monarchs who born at Brazil. Other thing , Getulio Vargas've attack too much the communism in Brazil. Then , i find which the bad government must be communism , and we have a revolution in 1964 who defend the country of the communism.

Greetings ,

mutante.

lost
Feb 29, 2004, 04:42 PM
i believe monarchy should be the shunned government because of the radical reforms that occured after D.Pedro II was kicked out, like the flag change, anthem change, ive said this all before

I also believe that if you choose a certain leader stick to the era around the leader, if you choose lula have the rest be what brazil is like today being that he is our current preseident, if you use D.Pedro make everything like it was back then, its better this way because you limit yourself to what the place was like at the time and you assume the traits of what Brazil was like at the time.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 29, 2004, 07:42 PM
I desagree with you two, the worst governement type is Feudalism. When the Portuguese arrive in Indigenas lands our country born. The government way used in these times was a "kind of Feudalism", where the wood was exported and the crops grew up in large latifundios. This era was the worst then Monarch times and a possible Communist times: just plant, kill native, slave work and wars. There is no investiments in culture, industries, urban buildings or anything who helps Brazil grows. The three ways would hurt the nation, Feudalism hurts more.
I'm not sure if Dom Pedro II is Brazilian, I have to research, but I prefer Lula as great leader, even DPII 'd born here.
Just a history correction: communists never had sufficient power to take over the government, the revolution of 64 (or military incision) used it as the motive, the real intention is rule the nation against former Getúlio Vargas allies.

Regards!!!

Komori
Feb 29, 2004, 08:45 PM
Er, the dictatorship of 64 (for I refuse to call it revolution) did not happen to defend us from communism, for christ sake, it was just a low level of socialistic tendences our president had. And we don't hate communist so much, or we wouldn't had elected former communist, proletarian and sindicalist Luis Inacio 'Lula' Da Silva.

That being said, I'd happen to agree with Nickname Lost (that could make a good game title. Or a movie) that I still find agression level too high. I believe we are very passive as a military force, if you let me say so. Another thing that just came to me... Don't we had more time under dictatorships and populist governments than in actual democracy/republic? I'm not sure there, I did abandon my History classes after all, but, hm, are we not like, more into populism than republic? Populism, for in-game reasons, should be represent by facism. Actually, We could do that government couldn't we? I mean, most of south america, if not all, had been under populist dictatorships for so long this century, it's a shame they forgot that government type.

That kinda made me start to do a government mod. If I happen to have good results, I'll post it here.

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 01, 2004, 08:52 AM
The peole claims, I heard and resolve to change:
- The aggressive level is now 03 (moderate).
- Pelé was removed to Scientific leader. Oswaldo Cruz and Sérgio Buarque de Holanda were added.
- The government types continues Republic and Feudalism, the Monarchy appears in PTW and Vanilla versions.

In sptie of Brazil had lived too many years ruled by dictadors I do not agree it is the best way of government to represent your nation, just 01 civ of the 31 has the best government as Facism, the Hatitis who do not exist more, it is complicate say one country has the Facism like prefered government type.

Regards!

PS: when a post a new version of The Brazilians, these changes will be upgrade.

loseth
Mar 01, 2004, 12:18 PM
Just my preferences...

Leader: Vargas all the way, baby!!

Preferred government: Bagunça.

Shunned government: Any gov't that works.

Special Resource: Really hot babes.

UU: Pit Boy.

lost
Mar 01, 2004, 12:26 PM
Cool, with the changes, however... I do disagree with the fact that you're mixing traits of Brazil back during the colonial times with feudalism and our contemporary Brazil. I personally believe that a mod or civ should stick to one period in the civ's history that revolves aroudn the leader that you are using, otherwise you could make Brazil or any Civ with almost all the traits, for example use colonial feudalism, with lula and the industrial development mainly starting in the 30s and an aggression of five during the dictatorships, meaning like I said, you could use almost any trait if you mix time periods.

loseth
Mar 02, 2004, 10:54 AM
Ok, I've fleshed my ideas out a bit more...


Leader: Fernando Color de Melo. [special ability: drains the treasury every 10 turns]

Preferred government: Bagunça. [coruption: rampant, worker rate: 50%]

Shunned government: Any gov't that works.

Special Resource: Really hot babes.

UU: Pit Boy. [special ability: Daddy's money (allows it to bribe other units easilly)].

New Citizen Types:

A) PM. Increases corruption and makes one citizen unhappy.

B) Baiano Worker. Produces no shields whatsoever.

New Improvement: Copacabana beach. [effects: can only be built by water; city produces no shields, but all citizens are happy]

lost
Mar 02, 2004, 03:56 PM
hahaha!!!!:Deven though I am from bahia haha

there could be like a great or small wonder
Bangu 1:Disorder occurs every 5 turns(cellphones in the prison and the PM going into favelas to beat everyone until they find what they want)

Shunned Government: Any government with high taxes
Preferred Government: Anything that sounds inspiring(like promising to create jobs even though they know it won't happen)

Citizen Type:Petista(Increases the amount of happy citizens by 1, unit and building maintenence costs twice as much(juros, forgot the english word)

Leader:Lula(twice as much as everything the petista does)

New Improvement:Palacio da Alvorada or Congresso Nacional(Increases corruption by 10%)

just some ideas hahaha, not half as funny as yours

Komori
Mar 02, 2004, 10:29 PM
yeah yeah, I was being rather mean by saying that. But is it not true, south america had, in this century, lived under dictatorships and as such for much longer than under democracy/republic? A sad way to start our way to democracy.

Komori
Mar 02, 2004, 10:42 PM
On the Joke version... hmm... I find the Baiano worker a rather racist joke, and I tend not to apreciate it.
And not to seem as someone that has no sense of humor at all, for, hm, I have and I did find this funny... But, isn't it weird the way we seem unable to actually believe in anything that is brazilian? Hate mv-brasil (as they are fascist idiots with pathethic miscomceptions) but in one point they are right... we need more self respect. Wich is diferent from nationalism, before anyone assume anything.

Hail Vargas?
X_x

lost
Mar 03, 2004, 01:28 PM
If there would be one brazilian to hail, I believe it would be FHC, he really helped the country while being president if you think about it. Many people are unsatisfied obviously cause when a president promises change, many people expect for brazil to have everyone to have a 1st world country life which is almost( maybe even) impossible within 4 or 8 years. Im satisfied with what FHC did I think he was the best of all the brazilian presidents, followed by JK.

Sword_Of_Geddon
Mar 03, 2004, 11:15 PM
I love Brazil, they are the home of the Angelfish and the Nion Tetra(And the Amazon River), two of the most popular Aquarium Fish.

Theyd be a good addition to World Map scenerios, since presently, the Incans have got the entire Continent to themselves!

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 04, 2004, 06:50 AM
I'm builing Brazilian, Argentine and Tupi civs, all them from South America, Inca are no more alone. I hope in months launch other civs, maybe others from South America.
Sword, the preview of Tupi and Argentine civs are available in CivFanatics, check it out.

regards from Brazil!

Sword_Of_Geddon
Mar 04, 2004, 10:59 AM
Where can I find these previews?

Are you by any chance making a mod which will add ALL of those S.American civs?

If so, I'll have you know, that you have my full suppost at least.

Some Suggestions:

1. I agree, represent modern day Brazil. I would say future Brazil, since I believe that in the future Brazil may one day become a superpower like the US(The country is large enough), but Civ doesn't have a 5th age, and thats a mod for another day.

2. If you have a mod which Brazil and the other S.America civs, make sure that you make a version of it that uses the world map, with correct starting locations.

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 04, 2004, 11:19 AM
South American has 14 countries, if I do one civ for country I'll have to almost two Civ upgade pack :D (08 for pack). There are a lof of work, maybe one day I can do that.

Sword, check http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=80264 for The Argentines and http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=78666 for The Tupis (most important race of Native Indians from easter South America).

My next S.A. civ will be Venezuela, but I have to finish Brazilians, Tupis, Argentines and Neanterdhals first, their UU and change all the leaderheads to 3D. Before Venezuela I think that I'll build other civs, one from North America, others from Africa and other parts of the World (Top Secret! :D )

loseth
Mar 04, 2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by lost
hahaha!!!!:Deven though I am from bahia haha

there could be like a great or small wonder
Bangu 1:Disorder occurs every 5 turns(cellphones in the prison and the PM going into favelas to beat everyone until they find what they want)

Shunned Government: Any government with high taxes
Preferred Government: Anything that sounds inspiring(like promising to create jobs even though they know it won't happen)

Citizen Type:Petista(Increases the amount of happy citizens by 1, unit and building maintenence costs twice as much(juros, forgot the english word)

Leader:Lula(twice as much as everything the petista does)

New Improvement:Palacio da Alvorada or Congresso Nacional(Increases corruption by 10%)

just some ideas hahaha, not half as funny as yours

Haha! I love the Petista Citizen!

loseth
Mar 04, 2004, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by lost
If there would be one brazilian to hail, I believe it would be FHC, he really helped the country while being president if you think about it. Many people are unsatisfied obviously cause when a president promises change, many people expect for brazil to have everyone to have a 1st world country life which is almost( maybe even) impossible within 4 or 8 years. Im satisfied with what FHC did I think he was the best of all the brazilian presidents, followed by JK.

I'm with you on FHC. I think he's the only president Brazil has had that was both a) good at his job and b) committed to democracy. But he's a bit too recent IMO. I like Vargas for the leader-head. I think he's the best known Brazilian president internationally and--love him or hate him--he did have a tremendous effect on Brazil.

For the capital, I like Salvador or Rio. Again, Brasilia is too recent. Also, if you think of the impact Brasilia has had on Brazil over its entire history and compare that to Salvador & Rio, then surely, Brasilia barely even warrants a mention.

Sword_Of_Geddon
Mar 05, 2004, 10:14 PM
Plus Vargas sounds like a cool name for a leader to.

Over on the N.American Mod, we(Its not my mod, but I am a contributor) are considering on adding the Tupi as a S.American civ. We could use some City names though.

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 06, 2004, 09:01 AM
I'll be glad if you use my Tupi Civ in North America Mod, here comes to report of Tupi civ:

- Animated leaderhead for 4 eras: 50% done (I'll finish this work on saturday 03/06, I hope, and post in CivFanatics).
- Civilopedia and icons: done!
- UU: 10% done, maybe tomorrow I can post it.

If you like, you can use Brazilians (1.0 version done and available in this forum) and Argentine (ready next week) too, I'm not sure if his mod just use native indians civ or also countries.

regards!

PS: If you want use just city names and make new animations, or just use the animations and use a new civilopedia... that okay too.

Sword_Of_Geddon
Mar 06, 2004, 04:07 PM
Cool, Ill let Unexisted and RF know that you gave your permission to use your Tupi civ in the NA mod.

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 06, 2004, 04:22 PM
Fellows, check http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1649966#post1649966 out to download Tupi Civilization, it is ready... well, the UU are not, but in few days I hope post t.

Sword, if you need help with Tupi Civ infos to add in your mod, call me.

Regards!!!

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 13, 2004, 01:43 PM
Check my first map out, it is the São Paulo state. The link is http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=81728

I hope in the future use my Brazilian civ in this map in a Scenario mod.

Check also http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1671519#post1671519 out to download the map of Brazil, incluiding seafaring rivers.

Sword_Of_Geddon
Mar 27, 2004, 01:38 AM
Hi Civarmy! I've got some news items for you today!

1. I'm using your Brazilian Civ in my up in coming mod, "ConquestsEnhanced", only I'm using Utahjazz's Hispanic Leaderhead.

2. R8XFT has created a 3-d fully animated(although non-era pacific) leaderhead for our version of the Tupi civ in the Native America mod, and would probably let you use it if you asked him nicely....

Keep up the good work by the way!

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 27, 2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Sword_Of_Geddon
Hi Civarmy! I've got some news items for you today!

1. I'm using your Brazilian Civ in my up in coming mod, "ConquestsEnhanced", only I'm using Utahjazz's Hispanic Leaderhead.

2. R8XFT has created a 3-d fully animated(although non-era pacific) leaderhead for our version of the Tupi civ in the Native America mod, and would probably let you use it if you asked him nicely....

Keep up the good work by the way!

Thanks Sword! I'm gald that u are using another creation mine in another mod. Tell me what is the internet address of your mod, so I can check the progress and download it.
BTW, I created a huge American continent map (North + Latin), the address is http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=82487 , maybe this map could be used in N.A. mod. I also created a Latin American one (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=81937), maybe this one could be used in your new mod. U can check more maps made by myself going to http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=67319 , there are a relation of some maps from CivFanatics, some of them are made by myself.

Good luck with your new mod and congratulations about N.A. !!!

Sword_Of_Geddon
Mar 27, 2004, 08:19 PM
It doesn't have an internet address as of yet, but soon, very soon my friend, it will be finished, and availible for download on this very site....

It will be kind of like a cross between Steph's mod(But not nearly so many flavor units), and Ak47's "Missing Links"

The New Civs so far include Brazil, Polynesia and Nubia(All with era-pacific, 3-D animated leaderheads) but I'd also like to add Khymer and Israel to the mix.

Thanks for your support BTW...

ImpressEmpress
Apr 01, 2004, 09:20 PM
Uhh... how do you make the leaderheads? What programs do you need?

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 02, 2004, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by ImpressEmpress
Uhh... how do you make the leaderheads? What programs do you need?

I drawn the leaderhead using Corel Draw and Abode Photo Shop, for animation I used Jasc Animator Shop. You can drawn using your favor program, other options are Paint (that comes togheter with Windows), Abode Illustrator and Photo Paint, but for animations you must use a program that works with *.flc extension, I just know Jasc Animator Shop.
Use Google tool to search them in Internet, it's easy to be found.

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 02, 2004, 05:09 PM
Yes baby, Lula 3D animated leaderhead is underconstruction. Soon, Lula, Cunhambebe, Miguel de San Martin, Primogenitor Ingo and more leaders built by myself will use 3D effects... but I have to learn more before do that :cry:
If someone know a good program to do 3D leaderheads or have some advice to give me about the arts, please, post.

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 02, 2004, 05:10 PM
This is my homenage to Civilzation Brazilians from C3B team.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/c3b02.jpg

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 03, 2004, 02:07 PM
this is not Brazilian, it is a Elve leader, 3d, animated, era specific... but hie is not look like a elve

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/elfo.jpg

Sword_Of_Geddon
Apr 19, 2004, 03:23 AM
You may be pleased to know that Bebro has realised an Argentine Pucara Plane! Thats one less thing you need to work on Civarmy!

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 20, 2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Sword_Of_Geddon
You may be pleased to know that Bebro has realised an Argentine Pucara Plane! Thats one less thing you need to work on Civarmy!

Cool! But I'll still continue plaining built my own Pucará.
Look Sword, I'm learning how procude 3D animated leaderhead!!!

ONE QUESTION: I wanna show the below image in some topics mine, for this I have to post the same image mane times occuping the free space of CFC, how can I post just one time a picture and show it in different topics???

jorde
Apr 20, 2004, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by CivArmy s. 1994
Cool! But I'll still continue plaining built my own Pucará.
Look Sword, I'm learning how procude 3D animated leaderhead!!!

ONE QUESTION: I wanna show the below image in some topics mine, for this I have to post the same image mane times occuping the free space of CFC, how can I post just one time a picture and show it in different topics???

I think it would be enough to post it in just one topic, and then copy that URL, pasting it whenever you need it

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 20, 2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by jorde
I think it would be enough to post it in just one topic, and then copy that URL, pasting it whenever you need it

I tried did that, but it did not work :(
Look, I'm tryind do that again in this post

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?postid=1774015

jorde
Apr 20, 2004, 08:11 PM
Well.. it isnt working for me as well... it's probably because it lacks of the .jpg extention...

So the only way to have your pic everywhere is leaving a link just as you did above

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 20, 2004, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by jorde
Well.. it isnt working for me as well... it's probably because it lacks of the .jpg extention...

So the only way to have your pic everywhere is leaving a link just as you did above

Jorde, thanks for the tip! Oh, don't forget to chwck http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1775603#post1775603 out, there out find 3d animated leaderhead to Argentine civ images preview.
About the civilopedia of the Argentine, any cool information to be added???

Sword_Of_Geddon
Apr 21, 2004, 01:02 PM
Ingo looks.....insane!! Thats one guy I would NOT want to meet!

Macaco Loco
Apr 25, 2004, 01:09 AM
I just registered to give my opinion.
First i think that using the aggricultural and religious attributes for brazil is the best way. Commercial is kind of a stretch because most of what brazil commercializes IS related to agriculture. About religious its even easier, Brazil is the biggest catholic country in the world, and just watch the news on a religious holiday to see how religious the people are.
Now for the complaints. Well i think Lula is a horrible choice for a leader, Vargas or Dom Pedro II would be much better, seeing as they governed for far longer and had a much deeper impact on our history.
And, one thing i didnt notice anyone saying, but i think the tucano is a bad UU, Brazil has a crappy air force, and playing air superiority in the game shouldnt be estimulated. I think the brazilian uu should be either a Bandeirante (a explorer with a decent fighting ability and enslave, or an early guerrila, depending on how you see it) or a modern specialized "jungle soldier" seeing as the brazilian army is renowed for its jungle fighting tactics, that woul make sense.
If you need some help with all of that feel fre to pm or email me.

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 25, 2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Macaco Loco
I just registered to give my opinion.
First i think that using the aggricultural and religious attributes for brazil is the best way. Commercial is kind of a stretch because most of what brazil commercializes IS related to agriculture. About religious its even easier, Brazil is the biggest catholic country in the world, and just watch the news on a religious holiday to see how religious the people are.
Now for the complaints. Well i think Lula is a horrible choice for a leader, Vargas or Dom Pedro II would be much better, seeing as they governed for far longer and had a much deeper impact on our history.
And, one thing i didnt notice anyone saying, but i think the tucano is a bad UU, Brazil has a crappy air force, and playing air superiority in the game shouldnt be estimulated. I think the brazilian uu should be either a Bandeirante (a explorer with a decent fighting ability and enslave, or an early guerrila, depending on how you see it) or a modern specialized "jungle soldier" seeing as the brazilian army is renowed for its jungle fighting tactics, that woul make sense.
If you need some help with all of that feel fre to pm or email me.

Macaco Louco, check the "image outdoor" :lol: in this post, there I said I'll launch Princess Isabel and Getúlio Vargas
as alternative leaderheads and the units Pracinhas (replace
Marines), Embraer Mirage2000 (replace Jet Fighter Fighter) and
Cangaceiro (replace Rifleman), with this, people can make many
combos of 3d animated leaderheads era specific and UUs. If u r looking for Bandeirantes and Voluntário da Prata (the guys who
fought in Paraguay War), check www.civ3.com.br , the
fellows of this site built these two units and Dom Pedro II as leaderhead, they did a good job :goodjob:
I saw u come from Campinas and your nick is relative to monkeys, for this I concluded that u support a bad team :lol:
and I think u will not enjoy my other civ, the Tupis (Guarani),
check the link of my assignature to check it out.

Macaco, thanks for the suggestions!!!

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 25, 2004, 09:36 AM
you saw the first outdoor of the internet :lol: , if someone knows how I can change the sizes of the above image, tell me, I tried do that in my image editor, because the number of figures, I can't change the sizes there :cry:

clik here (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/construcoes.jpg)

Macaco Loco
Apr 25, 2004, 12:46 PM
Nice site, i didnt know it....

About the soccer team, dont be worried, i just like monkey, but im native from curitiba, so i dont support any teams from campinas.

This week ill start working a little with poser, if you didnt make it already id like to take a try at making vargas.

And as a little side note, theres a mistake on the link to civbrasil, you put a space before the www, so it link to %20%civbrasil, edit if you want...

CivArmy s. 1994
Apr 25, 2004, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Macaco Loco
Nice site, i didnt know it....

About the soccer team, dont be worried, i just like monkey, but im native from curitiba, so i dont support any teams from campinas.

This week ill start working a little with poser, if you didnt make it already id like to take a try at making vargas.

And as a little side note, theres a mistake on the link to civbrasil, you put a space before the www, so it link to %20%civbrasil, edit if you want...

Poser is the best software that I use to produce stuffs to Civ, I just get it few days before and my creation are much better now, compare my last ones with the first 's. Today I use 10 different editors to do the creations, plus Internet and text editor :eek: . Poser is easy to be used, there is just few confuses commands, not many, u'll enjoy Poser.
Start produce Vargas, so cwe can ply in the future with two different version of GV, I know another player is building Guevara too, so there will be also two different Guevara, cool.

see you!

CivArmy s. 1994
May 10, 2004, 11:34 AM
here u find the new arts of Lula 3d, animated, era specific. I have to do some changes in his face.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/brazilians01.jpg

Sword_Of_Geddon
May 29, 2004, 03:01 PM
Keep up the good work Civarmy!

Brazil will be in Far Horizons(Waiting for your 3-D animated leaderhead), I'm currently using Dom Pedro II as the leader(he was actually pretty good for a monarch, according to one historical webpage I visited, he campaigned against nearby dictorial regimes, fought to end slavery in Brazil, and was in fact a born Brazilian).

UU's include the Voluntario De Patria and the Embier Tucano,

I want to include all the great work you've done for this civ as part of my mod Civarmy.

Maybe in the future we could do a South America scenerio toghether, with modern S.American countries(Like Brazil and Argentina), and Native Peoples(Like the Mapuche, Tupi and Incans)

The efforts you put into your work is truely amazing Civarmy...I just thought you deserved some praise for your hard(and underappreciated by alot of people here) work.

CivArmy s. 1994
May 29, 2004, 03:20 PM
Keep up the good work Civarmy!

Brazil will be in Far Horizons(Waiting for your 3-D animated leaderhead), I'm currently using Dom Pedro II as the leader(he was actually pretty good for a monarch, according to one historical webpage I visited, he campaigned against nearby dictorial regimes, fought to end slavery in Brazil, and was in fact a born Brazilian).

UU's include the Voluntario De Patria and the Embier Tucano,

I want to include all the great work you've done for this civ as part of my mod Civarmy.

Maybe in the future we could do a South America scenerio toghether, with modern S.American countries(Like Brazil and Argentina), and Native Peoples(Like the Mapuche, Tupi and Incans)

The efforts you put into your work is truely amazing Civarmy...I just thought you deserved some praise for your hard(and underappreciated by alot of people here) work.


Thanks Sword!!! The Brazilians leader continues under construction, it s hard to do its beard, all the rest are ready. When I find (or create) a good bread to this leader, I'll lauch it, I hope to do it soon :D
The Monarchy in Brazil was not the best one of all the World, did u know Brazil was the last country of all the World to abolish slavery??? Another curiosity: we are the single South America free country that had Monarchy as government.
Sword, I hope launch also a American Continent Mod, using the present countries and native tribes, I'll be glad if you join me in this mod. For start this project I must finish before "The Last March of the Neanderthals", some units (they will be included in this American Mod) and few Civis, I think all these projects will be finished soon. That's the civis that I thought:
- Brazilians (I'm finishing)
- Argentine (I did)
- Paraguay (I'm finishing)
- Venezuela (50% ready)
- Tupis (I did)
- Americans, Mayas, Incas, Iroquois and Aztecs from currently game
- Cuba and Canada (I saw there civis around, but I don't know the links)
- Maybe 2 native tribes of US, one from Middle area and other from West coast.

Sword, thanks for all the eulogies!!!
Keep me informed about Far Horizons, I want play this mod.

mollari
Jun 08, 2004, 09:47 PM
Hi!
Just some notes:
Religious / Agricultural: is clearly the best designation for the brazilians - we have the largest catholic population in the world (although not the largest christian), and agriculture have always been THE most important economic activity of the country;
Lula as leader: I would strongly object againt choosing a leader thar recent. Neither Lula or FHC have been judged by History, and their choices would be based completely on the author's personal political affinity - I, for instance, can't see any good reason to put one of them as brazilian leader. I would choose between Dom Pedro II, Vargas and JK;
Government: According to the latests pools, brazilian people really do not care to much to democracy. I don't see why we should put republic (or democracy) as our favorite government - I would put facism or monarchy instead. The shunned government should be comunism or feudalism, I believe.
(one small note: "Companheiro" - as a "title" - would be bether translated as Comrade, not "fellow").

CivArmy s. 1994
Jun 09, 2004, 09:23 AM
Hi!
Just some notes:
Religious / Agricultural: is clearly the best designation for the brazilians - we have the largest catholic population in the world (although not the largest christian), and agriculture have always been THE most important economic activity of the country;
Lula as leader: I would strongly object againt choosing a leader thar recent. Neither Lula or FHC have been judged by History, and their choices would be based completely on the author's personal political affinity - I, for instance, can't see any good reason to put one of them as brazilian leader. I would choose between Dom Pedro II, Vargas and JK;
Government: According to the latests pools, brazilian people really do not care to much to democracy. I don't see why we should put republic (or democracy) as our favorite government - I would put facism or monarchy instead. The shunned government should be comunism or feudalism, I believe.
(one small note: "Companheiro" - as a "title" - would be bether translated as Comrade, not "fellow").

Thanks for the suggestions!
I hope launch alternative leaders to Brazilian Civilization, as JK, GV and Princess Isabel, so, people can do that changes. If u open the EDIT program od you Civ u can do some changes in this civ, as Shunned/Prefered government type and leader title ;)
This is my old version of the Brazilians, try the new one in http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=89701 . The bellow image shows the 3d Lula.
Thanks for posting and check my signature link to download more civis from Latin America.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/brazilians012.jpg