View Full Version : New units: Golden Hind & English War Galleon


aaglo
Feb 26, 2004, 02:18 PM
Ships ahoy!

Actually these are two different versions of the Golden Hind:
- One version with almost-historical -looks (named Golden Hind)
- One version with Civ3 Man-O-War -looks (named War Galleon)

Here are the downloads:

Golden Hind (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/GoldenHind.zip)

English War Galleon (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/WarGalleon.zip)

Here are the animations of the Golden hind (the anims are exactly the same with war galleon - just the looks are a bit different)
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/HindDemo.gif

And here is attached the XL (256x256) of the English War Galleon. And I think you can guess why I call it English :lol:

[EDIT]: How convinient. I post specific english units to these forums, and my post count is 1666 - the year when the city of London was almost completely burned down :devil2: :lol:

Yoda Power
Feb 26, 2004, 02:21 PM
First to reply! Looks great:goodjob:

Gogf
Feb 26, 2004, 02:23 PM
Third post!

Perfect Aaglo! It's simply beautiful! I would have prefered it with more cannons, but it's still probably your best unit yet, IMO.

Cimbri
Feb 26, 2004, 02:26 PM
Ah Aaglo, very nice work. :goodjob:

Louis XXIV
Feb 26, 2004, 02:35 PM
It is kinda ironic, but I would have completely missed it ;)

The unit looks good, btw :D

thestonesfan
Feb 26, 2004, 02:40 PM
The master shipwright strikes again!

Thanks, aaglo!

Raw is War?
Feb 26, 2004, 02:53 PM
Very nice aaglo :thumbsup:

Drift
Feb 26, 2004, 02:57 PM
Both are great, but like I said in the preview thread, I like War Galleon's sails more. Therefore I proclaim it as your best ship so far. :)

The Slayer
Feb 26, 2004, 03:02 PM
:eek: :faint:

This ship is superb!! :omg!: :lol:

:goodjob: aaglo

W.i.n.t.e.r
Feb 26, 2004, 03:14 PM
calling this unit superb would be an understatement :king:

mrtn
Feb 26, 2004, 03:22 PM
Nice one mate! :thumbsup:

Vuldacon
Feb 26, 2004, 03:42 PM
:goodjob: Totally Excellent aaglo! Both Ships are Great! I Especially Love the Esthetics you applied to the English War Galleon...Absolutely Stunning. The English in my MOD have declared this aaglo Day in your honor. Goes Straight into my Game .......Thanks.

Gogf
Feb 26, 2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Drift
Both are great, but like I said in the preview thread, I like War Galleon's sails more. Therefore I proclaim it as your best ship so far. :)

I agree.

@Vuldacon: How about "We love the Aaglo day"?

LouLong
Feb 26, 2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Gogf


I agree.

@Vuldacon: How about "We love the Aaglo day"?

Come on, we already have that, nearly every day recently (not that I complain !) ;) !

Grandraem
Feb 26, 2004, 04:10 PM
What more to say except excellent, as usual! :)

Ozymandias
Feb 26, 2004, 04:15 PM
Beautiful! -- You're spoiling us :D -- BTW love the sinking anim especially.

-Oz

Dom Pedro II
Feb 26, 2004, 05:27 PM
Any ideas for application in the epic game? Anybody?

I think maybe I'm going to create a line of purely warships for civ...

I mean, there's very little naval specialization until Magnetism.

I think that maybe this could be a step between the Renaissance Galleass and the Frigate? Or perhaps more of a contemporary of the later Galleass but more powerful that could upgrade later to a Ship of the Line... thoughts?


EDIT: Silly me... I also meant to thank you and say that this could be, IMHO, one of your finest and most complex naval vessels ever.

TheMorpheus
Feb 26, 2004, 05:44 PM
Wonderful :goodjob:

I love your animation style, great work again :king:

embryodead
Feb 26, 2004, 05:50 PM
Golden Hind should be obviously a Privateer replacement for English (with better stats). Then, War Galleon could simply replace Galleon, also with additional attack point or sumfin.
They're beautiful of course :)

tjedge1
Feb 26, 2004, 06:22 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup: man your making my thumbs tired aaglo.

Dann
Feb 26, 2004, 06:30 PM
Holy ....! :eek:

Beautiful, mon. :goodjob: Thank you.

Downloading.....

spincrus
Feb 26, 2004, 07:07 PM
Simply stunning.

aaminion00
Feb 26, 2004, 07:55 PM
Excellent :goodjob::thumbsup:

CamJH
Feb 26, 2004, 08:14 PM
Where do you find the time? :)
You keep cranking out great units, one after another!

Gogf
Feb 26, 2004, 08:41 PM
Aaglo, can I ask you a question? I decided I'm going to try to learn to do something in Pov-Ray, so can you post the files here? I want to see what they are like, and experiment a little. Thanks a lot!

Dom Pedro II
Feb 26, 2004, 09:03 PM
Hmmm... so perhaps then these should simply be put towards making the English navy consistently superior to others throughout the course of the later part of the game?

Makes sense for those of us who want to really make ultra-unique civilizations.

Ekmek
Feb 26, 2004, 10:49 PM
aaglo I love your stuff. Any chance you can do late 1800s stuff. Civ3 only has an iron clad and I think there is a huge gap between galleon-ironclads to destroyer-transport navies.

aaglo
Feb 27, 2004, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by embryodead
Golden Hind should be obviously a Privateer replacement for English (with better stats). Then, War Galleon could simply replace Galleon, also with additional attack point or sumfin.
They're beautiful of course :)

This is what I thought when I did these. I think, that English should have superior age-of-sail -navy.
And perhaps the french too. :hmm: :lol: (after all, the ship-of-the-line available in conquests has french emblems in the sails)

aaglo
Feb 27, 2004, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Gogf
I decided I'm going to try to learn to do something in Pov-Ray, so can you post the files here? I want to see what they are like, and experiment a little. Thanks a lot!

Here ya go

Der PH
Feb 27, 2004, 01:47 AM
FAN

TAS

TIC

!!!

Arne
Feb 27, 2004, 02:24 AM
I am two pages to late. Many thanks again, aaglo. This unit was sooo much needed. :worship:

It's GREAT! (both versions are great).

If you are going out of sailing ship ideas... how about a two masted sailing ship? ;) I think, a brigg or briggantine would be a good addition to all navys, privateer-fleets or trading fleets.

Mithadan
Feb 27, 2004, 02:48 AM
What can I say? It's so beautiful!

Gogf
Feb 27, 2004, 05:18 AM
Thanks so much Aaglo :)!

Aluminium
Feb 27, 2004, 07:44 AM
These are perfect ships! :thanx:

Sa~Craig
Feb 27, 2004, 07:50 AM
:goodjob: :goodjob:

gen.dragolen
Feb 27, 2004, 11:39 AM
aaglo,

I too have no end of admiration for your artistic skills.

I have one request for a unit that should be very easy for you to do since it will be based off of your ancient age galleys: could you make a cargo ship from the galley models ?

I'll try to find some pictures for you, but a quick search hasn't yielded anything good. From the NG articles I have read, the ships were almost as long as the warships, but much wider to hold cargo. The one suggestion I would make would be to make the sails as the civ colour marker, though there is nothing as beautiful as a billowing white sail and some spray from the bow wave.

D.

aaminion00
Feb 27, 2004, 12:51 PM
:eek:

Holy crap... err... Gen. Dragon, there's a 5 line limit to signatures... lol

Gogf
Feb 27, 2004, 01:34 PM
Sounds like a good request Gen.Dragon, but as Aaminion said, there is a five line signature limit.

vbraun
Feb 28, 2004, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by gen.dragolen
aaglo,

I too have no end of admiration for your artistic skills.

I have one request for a unit that should be very easy for you to do since it will be based off of your ancient age galleys: could you make a cargo ship from the galley models ?

I'll try to find some pictures for you, but a quick search hasn't yielded anything good. From the NG articles I have read, the ships were almost as long as the warships, but much wider to hold cargo. The one suggestion I would make would be to make the sails as the civ colour marker, though there is nothing as beautiful as a billowing white sail and some spray from the bow wave.

D.

I could maybe try :crazyeye:

NateDawgNY
Feb 28, 2004, 02:44 AM
I'm posting a little late, but aaglo I did want to say that your units are top quality. IMHO these latest units have even surpassed those standards. Thank you for all your work!

Lusikka755
Feb 28, 2004, 03:55 AM
This is going to my game for sure!

Great unit!!:goodjob:

Ivid
Feb 28, 2004, 04:53 AM
Thank you, aaglo, for another excellent naval unit! Your work is always superb. Thanks again for sharing your artistic talent!

bogdanSUPERIUS
Mar 01, 2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by aaglo


http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/HindDemo.gif


:thumbsup:...:goodjob::thanx:

R8XFT
Mar 01, 2004, 04:38 AM
Sensational!! Thanks a lot!! :goodjob:

bogdanSUPERIUS
Mar 02, 2004, 05:43 AM
Can we have a preview of English War Galleon??? :D Of course it's quite similar as Golden Hind but anyway... :yeah:

jzsf
Mar 17, 2004, 03:48 PM
Great! Added it to my game! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :)

Arne
Mar 18, 2004, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by bogdanSUPERIUS
Can we have a preview of English War Galleon??? :D Of course it's quite similar as Golden Hind but anyway... :yeah: Here is one. It's only the run animation and only one direction, but you will notice the finish cross in the flags.

ocedius
Mar 18, 2004, 02:55 PM
Is the file server down cuz I can't download any files.

Arne
Mar 19, 2004, 02:11 AM
No, the server isn't down. To me DL works.

bogdanSUPERIUS
Mar 19, 2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Arne
Here is one. It's only the run animation and only one direction, but you will notice the finish cross in the flags.
Thanks man :D

capman
Apr 15, 2004, 04:05 PM
Hello aaglo

I join the praise with your great work in creating civ units.

I have a big favour to ask.
Any chance you could provide the civfanatics community with a "spanish" version of the golden hind unit? One without the three lions?
No markings on the sail. And if you want a version with a cross on one sail.

Would be much appreciated.

I'm trying to create a modified age of discovery
scenario with a potential spanish armada ;-)
The galleass unit will come in handy too.

Cheers
Capman

aaglo
Apr 15, 2004, 05:19 PM
that spanish think actually isn't such a bad idea...
we shall see.

capman
Apr 16, 2004, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by aaglo
that spanish think actually isn't such a bad idea...
we shall see.

would be great...

I'm using your corsair ship too, as privateer replacement.
The orginal privateer is way too modern for the 16th century.

What I'm also missing is an offensive land unit to raid harbour cities like Cadiz or caribbean ports. A pirate or buccaneer if you will. Wearing a big hat and handling a rapier and a pistol ;-)

Currently I'm using the man-at-arms unit, also found in this forum.

BeBro
Apr 16, 2004, 07:54 AM
Great units aaglo :)

Sword_Of_Geddon
Apr 16, 2004, 01:09 PM
Ah, I love sailing ships :love: . So much better than ugly modern naval vessels.

gorn
Apr 16, 2004, 01:13 PM
Beautiful ships, already in my mod ... but I'd like to 2nd the call for a Spanish Galleon and (more importantly, for me at least) a land-unit PIRATE! Shiver me timbers, t'would be nice!

capman
Apr 17, 2004, 01:06 PM
Ok, I searched the web for some pics of galleons, etc

Here are two quite good websites.

http://www.wolfson.ox.ac.uk/~ben/meagher.htm

http://www.greatgridlock.net/Sqrigg/squrig2.html

Visually the spanish galleon does not look that different from an elizabethan sea dog. Lower forecastles perhaps...

For the age of discovery scenario basically three types of ships are important.
caravels, carracks and galleons. The galleass is more a troop transporter and I can't imagine them leaving coastal areas...

As to a pirate unit. The swashbuckler from kinsman is already in use for that role, I read.

Additionally a dutch merchantman could be introduced as UU for the Netherlands. But I'm not sure if they would make sense in the period 1490 to 1640.

The frigate, man-o-war and ship of the line units are definitly pre 1640.

aaglo
Apr 21, 2004, 03:33 AM
I think I definitely should do some sort of large spanish war galleon (even if it was the last thing I'd do).

And same goes for the "Henri Grace a Dieu" (french war ship).

I can't help it - I just love old sailing ships... :)

Der PH
Apr 21, 2004, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by aaglo
I think I definitely should do some sort of large spanish war galleon (even if it was the last thing I'd do).

I think this, too.

Originally posted by aaglo
I can't help it - I just love old sailing ships... :)

Good for us. :D

Arne
Apr 21, 2004, 05:55 AM
Will love it, to see more aaglo sailing ships. :)

Originally posted by aaglo
And same goes for the "Henri Grace a Dieu" (french war ship).
Hm, french? The name of cource, but wasn't "Henri Grace a Dieu" an english ship? I think it's the same ship, wich was called "Great Harry" by the people. ;)

aaglo
Apr 21, 2004, 06:21 AM
oh :blush:

so it was :lol: - I have only heard the name of the ship and saw pictures, never saw anything written about it. :lol:

Arne
Apr 22, 2004, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by aaglo
oh :blush:

so it was :lol: - I have only heard the name of the ship and saw pictures, never saw anything written about it. :lol: Don't worry about. :D If i wouldn't be interested in history of sailing ships, then I also wouldn't know that. And the name IS french, thats for sure. ;)

IbnSina
Apr 22, 2004, 10:11 AM
These are outstandingly good units! I like (and use) most of your ships (and bombardment units). Keep up the great work!