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Feb 29, 2004, 10:16 AM
Should we seperate the executive departments as follows:

Bolded text is the changes

2. Council

e. Ministry of Internal Affairs
1. Is responsible for settler placement.
2. Is responsible for wonder building, including prebuilds.
3. Governor of cities that do not have a provincial governor.
4. Is responsible for the mapping of Provincial Borders.
5. Monitor overall happiness of COUNTRY_NAME.
6. Coordinate efforts of Governors on national projects.
f. Ministry of Defense
1. Is responsible for troop movements.
2. Is responsible for defensive plans.
3. Is responsible for offensive plans.
4. Is responsible for troop upgrades and terminations.
5. Track relative strength of foreign nations
g. Ministry of Foreign Affairs
1. Is responsible for declarations of war.
2. Is responsible for peace treaties.
3. Is responsible for construction of embassies.
4. Is responsible for rights of passage.
5. Is responsible for trade embargoes.
6. Is responsible for mutual protection pacts.
7. Is responsible for placement of spies.
8. Is responsible for intelligence gathering, spying and sabotage.
9. Track world-wide diplomatic situation.
h. Ministry of Trade
1. Is responsible for trade deals.
2. Is responsible for tracking the status and expiration of established deals.
3. Is responsible for monitoring other civilizations economical status
i. Ministry of Culture
1. Is responsible for monitoring [insert civ name]'s cultural status.
2. Is responsible for working with govonors to expand [insert civ name]'s culture.
3. Is responsible for coordinating efforts to save a city from flipping, or to flip a city to us.
4. The Cultural Advisor may override the build queue's of
a city that is in danger of a cultural flip. The advisor must have proof of this, and only cultural improvements and/or wonders
(provided a great leader is used) may be placed in the queue as
the next item to be built.
j. Ministry of Research
1. Is responsible for tech research queue.
2. Is responsible for tech trades.
3. Is responsible for tech espionage.
4. Is responsible for coordinating with the Ministry of Trade to find the best trade/tech deals.
5. Is responsible for monitoring rival civs research and tech status.

Discussion on this may be found here (

This will be implemented that the start of term 4.

What this does:

This proposed amendment seperates culture from the internal affairs department, and creates a Culture Ministry. It also seperates the Trade and Technology department into the Trade department and the Research Department, each dealing with it's respective area's.

Additional Change's because of this law:

Article G of the Code of Laws

G. Chain of Command
1. Determines the Designated Player if the President is
unavailable for the turn chat.
a. If no citizen in the CoC is present at the game play
session, the session shall be ended.

2. Settles departmental jurisdiction conflicts.

3. COC
a. President
b. Vice President
c. Minister of Internal Affairs
d. Minister of Defense
e. Minister of Foreign Affairs
f. Minister of Trade
g. Minister of Research
h. Minister of Culture

The two new poistions listed above force a small change in the Chain of Command. Minister of Research is placed under Minister of Trade, for trade still has the final word in most trade matters.

Article B of the Code of Laws
2. Council
a. The Council of the Executive Branch consists of the
Leaders of the 6 departments.

We have two new departments... 4+2=6 :lol::lol:

Feb 29, 2004, 10:18 AM
Strider I know you are very enthusiastic about this but can you please follow the rules for changing the ruleset.

Feb 29, 2004, 10:18 AM
This change helps several differant problems:

1) It takes work of several leaders, increasing the effciency of hte executive department.
2) It adds two new poistions onto the CoC, which decrease's the chance of no one being able to play the game.
3) It allows us to watch other civs movements much more carefully than before.

Feb 29, 2004, 10:20 AM
I did:

2. Polls are to be in anonymous responder format (standard
Forum poll option).
a. Proposal must be in Yes/No/Abstain format.
b. Polls will stay open until:
1. All votes have been cast, or;
2. A quorum has responded and further votes cannot
affect the outcome of the vote, or;
3. The posted poll closing time has been reached.
1. Minimum duration to run a poll is 48 hours.
c. The quorum for changes in the Code of Laws is 1/2 of
the census.
d. A simple majority of support is required to adopt or
alter a law.

Feb 29, 2004, 10:23 AM
Strider you need to change the Constitution first.
Please read the rules on doing that.

Feb 29, 2004, 10:28 AM
Ahh, must have missed that, sorry didn't put my contacts in this morning, and I can't see very good with them anyway. The const. is really hard for me to read.

Feb 29, 2004, 10:30 AM
No problem :)

Feb 29, 2004, 10:36 AM
Ok, new poll here: Let's hope I got it right this time.

Feb 29, 2004, 05:48 PM
Vote Yes

Feb 29, 2004, 05:57 PM
Yes separate the Departments

Feb 29, 2004, 09:09 PM
Vote YES