This is a collection of units from the game AoE II: Age of Kings, which was converted by Jimmyh.

I have changed following things:

- shadows are CIV3 conform now
- lighter Civ color (if necessary)
- smaller mounted units (conform to CIV3 units)

Cataphract

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/CataphractAoK_Preview_v1.02.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/CataphractAnimation_Preview.gif

Update: Version 1.02

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__AoK_Cataphract_v1.02.zip)

Mameluke

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/MamelukeAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/MamelukeAttackA_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Mameluke_v1.03_Fixed.zip)

Camel Rider

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/CamelRiderAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/CamelWarriorRun_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Camel_Warrior_v1.01_Fixed.zip)

Paladin

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/PaladinAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/PaladinRun_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Paladin_v1.01_Fixed.zip)

Woad Raider

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/WoadRaiderAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/WoadRaiderAttack_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Woad_Raider_v1.01_Fixed.zip)

Chu-Ko-nu

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/ChuKonuAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/ChuKonuRun_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_ChuKonu_v1.01_Fixed.zip)

Jaguar Warrior

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/JaguarWarriorAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/JaguarWarriorRun_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Jaguar_Warrior_v1.01_Fixed.zip)

Throwing Axeman

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/ThrowingAxemanAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/ThrowingAxemanAttack_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Throwing_Axeman_v1.01_Fixed.zip)


New: Alternative Attack (request from embryodead)

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/ThrowingAxemanAttackAlt_Preview.gif

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Throwing_Axeman_AttackAlt_v1.00.zip)

Eagle Warrior

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/EagleWarriorAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/EagleWarriorAttack_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Eagle_Warrior_v1.01_Fixed.zip)

Samurai

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/SamuraiAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/SamuraiAoKAttack_Preview.gif

Update: Correct vertical offsets

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Samurai_v1.00_Fixed.zip)

Skirmisher

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/SkirmisherAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/SkirmisherAttack_Preview.gif

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Skirmisher_v1.00.zip)

Aztec Cleric

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AztecClericAoK_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AztecClericRun_Preview.gif

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Aztec_Cleric_v1.01.zip)

Plumed Archer

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/PlumedArcher_Preview.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/PlumedArcherRun_Preview.gif

Download (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Alu__AoK_Plumed_Archer_v1.00.zip)

The rest comes later. :)

Awesome. AoK and AoK:TC are awesome games. The conversion I'd like to see most are the Longbowmen, Monk, Aztec Monk, and the Spanish Missionary.. ahh and the Korean War Wagon.

How about some Rise of Nations conversions too?

:goodjob:

Aluminium, your changes look good
:goodjob:

Aluminium,
I did the same with Camel Rider (resizing, offset and some pixels), but your shadows look better. Maybe you will find this useful to start with (though I think camel should be smaller still, ie. my camel is only a bit higher than a horse)

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/camel.zip

I found the biggest problems with AOK units were jumpiness, position in a square, and shadow. The shadows looks good on yours, and the colors looks better.

And nice pedia icons!

Very Nice units :)

But what is an Cataphract?

Hope someone can tell me ;)

Thanks to all!!! Here's the second round: Camel Rider, Paladin and Woad Raider. :D

Originally posted by Mobilize
Awesome. AoK and AoK:TC are awesome games. The conversion I'd like to see most are the Longbowmen, Monk, Aztec Monk, and the Spanish Missionary.. ahh and the Korean War Wagon.

How about some Rise of Nations conversions too?

:goodjob:
The Aztec Monk will come next :). The other units wasn't converted by Jimmyh. I have tried to convert units with AoK Mod Pack Studio, but no succeed. :(

How about some Rise of Nations conversions too?
Yeah, everybody wants RoN units in CIV3. The problem is, these are real 3D units and there is only an export plugin for 3DMAX, no import!


@embryodead
One more camel rider :D.

Quote DoubleT

"Very Nice units

But what is an Cataphract?

Hope someone can tell me "

There's a guy around here named Xen. I'm sure he'll be glad to post some information on Cataphract :D

Originally posted by DoubleT
Very Nice units :)

But what is an Cataphract?

Hope someone can tell me ;)

In short, they are well-trained, armored heavy cavalry, often armed with a lance and bow, famously used by the Parthians and later by the Eastern Roman Empire(Byzantines) but also used by other peoples in the region.

In Civ terms, basically a Knight for the Byzantines.

The shadows really needed fixing, as well as the resizing of the units as a whole.

Still, I appreciate all the effort JimmyH has put in converting them, since I've been using them for a long time already, but not anymore.

Now, though, I might reconsider using them.

Cool, great work. :goodjob:

Keep up the great work, Al.... :)

Excellent! The one thing that stopped me from getting the old ones was the lack of civilopedia entries. Now I'm getting them as soon as my life gets a little less hectic. Thanks!

how did you get to use these great units from Age Of Empires
because when i look for the units i can't find them are they actualy on the disc it's self or do i need a special programme to look at them

Originally posted by Mallek
how did you get to use these great units from Age Of Empires
because when i look for the units i can't find them are they actualy on the disc it's self or do i need a special programme to look at them Ugh, I don't really understand what you're trying to ask, but you first have to download these units from this site. There are more tutorials in the "tutorials" forum on how to add units.

Originally posted by DoubleT
Very Nice units :)

But what is an Cataphract?

Hope someone can tell me ;)

'Cataphract' (plural 'Cataphracts' or 'Cataphractii') is an English word derived from a Latin word, which in turn derives from a Greek term with a meaning of 'armoured' or 'protected' (adjective), 'body armour' or 'horse armour' (noun). The term came to apply generally to a heavily armoured cavalryman, especially one whose horse was also armoured. The term applies to such cavalrymen in the Near East in general, but is especially associated with the Byzantine Cataphracts of Justinian’s time.

The usual equipment for Cataphracts was a long chain or scale shirt, chain or scale horse armour, a lance or spear, a shield, a sidearm (often a sword, mace or axe) and sometimes a bow. Even heavier than a Cataphract was a ‘Clibanarius’ (basically a REALLY heavy cavalryman), but this type was far less popular (and probably less effective) than the Cataphract.

ChuKonu, Jaguar Warrior and Throwing Axeman are available now! :)

Thanks Aluminium for updating these to contemporary standards and giving us all more units to play with! :goodjob: :goodjob:

-Oz

What i mean is how did you get the units from the Aok/AoE game. As i Have both AoE and civilization 3 Conquests and i can not find where the unit graphics are located in AoE/AoK or even AoM i know how to install units into civ3conquests but just cant seem to find the any unit graphics in AoE file directory. Please Help!

Yours Dazed And confused



Mallek:confused: :confused:

Originally posted by Mallek
What i mean is how did you get the units from the Aok/AoE game. As i Have both AoE and civilization 3 Conquests and i can not find where the unit graphics are located in AoE/AoK or even AoM i know how to install units into civ3conquests but just cant seem to find the any unit graphics in AoE file directory. Please Help!

Yours Dazed And confused



Mallek:confused: :confused:
How I got these units? I downloaded it here!;) Look at first post in this tread.

In AoK all relevant things are in packed files with the extension *.DRS, which are located in the folder -> 'game folder'\data\ . But you need a special program to open. There is one called 'AoK Mod Pack Studio'. You must install AoK complete before you can use it. Then start AoK Mod Pack Studio and make a new project. Now all graphic resources are listed under 'SLP graphics'. Don't forget to look for an index list! There are some on AoK fansites. If you want to export any graphics, change the background colour to magenta (RGB:255 0 255). Because of compatibility to CIV3. The problem of these images is, they are centered on anchor points. Let it me know, if you are able to aligned it on a CIV3 storyboard.

I don't know much about AoM, but I think it are real 3d units. Maybe there is a plugin for any 3d programs. :confused:

Hey, what about considering the skirmisher unit? There's seriously a great, GREAT need for them in the game, and the fixed version of the AOK conversions JimmyH did would be perfect.

Still, can't wait for Dom Pedro's firelancer ;)

Wow, I am glad someone finally fixed these, as someone already said it was a good effort by jimmyh, but the quality issues really detracted with all the fine quality units available now.

:goodjob:

Aluminium, I don't suppose you could do the same thing for the Elephant Rider and the Elephant Archer?

Eagle Warrior and Samurai ready for use.


@SpincruS

Yes, the skirmisher :crazyeye:. I had almost forgotten it.


@zulu

Do you mean these AoE I units? If so, I have tried to fix the shadows a long time ago, but didn't finished it. I think the result was too ugly :(. Perhaps I try it again, but wouldn't like to promise anything. :)

Aztec Cleric and Skirmisher available now. All so far posted units updated. It should work correct now! :)

@Aluminium
Could you also try to fix the non-throwing Throwing Axeman version in the same way?

What is the non-throwing Throwing Axeman?

Thanks for all your work and attention to detail! :goodjob:

-Oz

@Aluminium
Someone made it a while ago. Alternative attack that turns throwing axeman into ordinary axeman, much more useful for me. Attached to the post.

Originally posted by loseth


'Cataphract' (plural 'Cataphracts' or 'Cataphractii') is an English word derived from a Latin word, which in turn derives from a Greek term with a meaning of 'armoured' or 'protected' (adjective), 'body armour' or 'horse armour' (noun). The term came to apply generally to a heavily armoured cavalryman, especially one whose horse was also armoured. The term applies to such cavalrymen in the Near East in general, but is especially associated with the Byzantine Cataphracts of Justinian’s time.

The usual equipment for Cataphracts was a long chain or scale shirt, chain or scale horse armour, a lance or spear, a shield, a sidearm (often a sword, mace or axe) and sometimes a bow. Even heavier than a Cataphract was a ‘Clibanarius’ (basically a REALLY heavy cavalryman), but this type was far less popular (and probably less effective) than the Cataphract.

not quite right- Clibinarius and cataphract were utterlly interchangable troops, but of either it seems that it was clibinarii who were the light of the two, being used more in ranged cavalry tactics

a few notes on thie equipment-

A)one of the main differences between a cataphract and a night is the use of the Kontos, a type of pike, weilded with both hands, and used in a melee type fasion, as opposed to the lance, which was simply pointed and held forwards for a single cavalry charge

B)after the reforms went into place putting bows on cataphracts in the first place, it was not an occasional sight to see a bow- it was a mandoatroy one

C)I have never heard of an axe being used as a side arm- but would not be surprised if cataphracts had both a swoard, and a mace- depednding on the trooper individual wealth

Xen on the first page is the woad raider you were looking for

Originally posted by embryodead
@Aluminium
Someone made it a while ago. Alternative attack that turns throwing axeman into ordinary axeman, much more useful for me. Attached to the post.

Looks better than the original attack. I will make it shortly.:)

wahou, very good job!, thank you

Plumed Archer and alternative Throwing Axeman attack version downloadable! :)

Yes! Finally the Conquest Quetzal Bowman will get it's own graphics, instead of having to use those of the Babylonian Bowman.

Thanks. :goodjob:

@Dann: There were already several archer available for mesoamerican in the American Conquest conversion thread

@Dann: There were already several archer available for mesoamerican in the American Conquest conversion thread

Oops. :o Forgot about those.

But...but...but...this one has civilopedia PCXs. :D

The other to. They are in the latest version of my mod

Really? Great. Will download that tonight after everyone else at the office had gone home. (Less people=faster download)

Aluminium Thanx for the units they are very nice :) are there going to be more units comming from you? :D

thanks for the Axeman :D

Wow! :eek: Great job, Aluminum. I look forward to the Bronze Age Shortswordsman and the Iron Age Longswordsman and Phalanx.

Thanks,

CK

@Dann and Steph

I have moded versions of the Cosscks, AC and FB units too. They are smaller, have smoother shadows, lighter Civ colors, gunpowder units have attack smoke and I made pedia icons with antialiasing. :D

@DoubleT
Any more? ;)

I can't believe I've missed this thread!! Really excellent work, thanks a million:thumbsup: !!

Aluminium:goodjob:

Originally posted by Xen

not quite right-


No? Shall we have a look? ;)

Your enthusiasm for history is great—I hope it stays with you as you head through tertiary education. However, if you want to be a real history geek, you’ll have to learn to check sources religiously. For example, I already knew all the information that I posted about Cataphracts, but I checked it anyway, in four different sources. If I hadn’t, then I would have been running the risk of some irritating guy making himself look cool by posting a variety of sources refuting what I had written.

Hey, wait a minute—that gives me an idea… ;)


Originally posted by Xen

Clibinarius and cataphract were utterlly interchangable troops, but of either it seems that it was clibinarii who were the light of the two, being used more in ranged cavalry tactics


Historians are not sure of the exact distinction between the two terms:

*From ‘The Complete Roman Army’ by Adrian Goldsworthy (Professor of History at Oxford), p.205:

‘In units of cataphracti and clibanarii the rider and often the horse were heavily armoured. The distinction between the two terms is now obscure.’

But, the majority opinion is definitely that Clibanarius is a kind of heavy Cataphract (i.e. a very heavy cavalryman):

*From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract):

‘In addition to ordinary cataphract types they sometimes fielded a very heavy type called a clibanarius (pl. clibanarii), named after an iron oven due to their enclosed metal armor.’

*Check out the Webster Enterprises Website (http://www.geocities.com/webenterprises.geo/tinpics.html) for pictures of three Cataphract models and a more heavily armoured Clibanarius.

*From the (very well researched) essay ‘THE EFFECT OF SASANID PERSIA ON LATE ROMAN EQUIPMENT AND STRATEGY’ (http://scissorblades.tripod.com/StrategoiAristos/id8.html)

‘The development of clibanarii, who were even heavier (so it is thought(48)) than cataphracts, was a Sasanid-influenced development. The Sasanids had been using this super-heavy cavalry…’


Originally posted by Xen

A)one of the main differences between a cataphract and a night is the use of the Kontos, a type of pike, weilded with both hands, and used in a melee type fasion, as opposed to the lance, which was simply pointed and held forwards for a single cavalry charge


I think you’ve been confused by a bad source about the lances/spears of Cataphracts. ‘Kontos’ is the Greek version of the Latin word ‘Contus’, meaning ‘heavy spear/lance’. A pike is an infantry weapon.

*From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract):

‘Equipment and tactics varied, but cataphracts generally wore heavy armor of mail, horn, or thick quilted cloth, carried a shield, sat on an armored horse, and charged with lances in a tight knee-to-knee formation.’

*From ‘THE EFFECT OF SASANID PERSIA ON LATE ROMAN EQUIPMENT AND STRATEGY’ (http://scissorblades.tripod.com/StrategoiAristos/id8.html)
‘…heavy cataphract cavalry units were introduced in the reign of Hadrian(47). These fought by charging with heavy lances.’

*From ‘Armies and Enemies of Imperial Rome’, quoted at http://glorantha.temppeli.org/digest/gd5/1998.01/2960.html :

‘We know from contemporary authors that the cataphracts were excep-
tionally well protected by iron armour, needed no shield, were armed
with a 12-foot long lance called a Kontos, and charged ponderously at
the trot on horses…’

*From ‘The Complete Roman Army’ by Adrian Goldsworthy (Professor of History at Oxford), p.138:

‘…the contus, a spear some 3.65m in length and held in both hands by a shieldless rider. This appears to have been first adopted in the 2nd century AD and only ever equipped a small number of specialist alae.’

*From ‘Warfare in the Ancient World’ by General Sir John Hacket (Professor of Classics at the University of London) ,p.102
‘…the two-handed lance (kontos).’

*From ‘Warfare in the Ancient World’ by General Sir John Hacket (Professor of Classics at the University of London) ,p.200
‘Hadrian formed the first regular unit of (cataphracti), armed with a heavy lance (contus).’


Originally posted by Xen

B)after the reforms went into place putting bows on cataphracts in the first place, it was not an occasional sight to see a bow- it was a mandoatroy one

C)I have never heard of an axe being used as a side arm- but would not be surprised if cataphracts had both a swoard, and a mace- depednding on the trooper individual wealth

There was no standard equipment for Cataphracts. ‘Cataphract’ is a generic term like ‘hussar’ or ‘grenadier’, describing a large number of similar units fielded by many different nations. The exact equipment depended on the nation and the time.

*From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract):

‘The cataphract was a type of heavy cavalryman used throughout the Middle East and adjoining regions from late antiquity up through the High Middle Ages…Nations deploying cataphracts at some time in their history included the Armenians, Byzantines, Parthians, Pergamenes, Romans, Sarmatians, Sassanids, and others...Equipment and tactics varied…’

*From this site (http://www.historifigs.com/20mm_ancients.htm), you can even order a model of a Byzantine Cataphract fighting with a battle-axe. ;)

READ

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1855322242/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/002-1357791-2439249


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0804731632/debellisbookstor/002-1357791-2439249

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0850453062/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/002-1357791-2439249

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0752417959/debellisbookstor/002-1357791-2439249

that said, you attempted rebuff says nothing- you saud that clibnarri were the heavy of the two- there is no proof of that, and considering it was Cataphracts who survived intot he period of the rise of heavy cavalry, it certainlly points to it being the heavy of the two

and that said, just because a figure company makes a fiugure of somthing dose not mean its completelly- accutarat- i often use figures to illustrate how I want a unit done- but if I want it done, it usually means I knwo all about the tye of troop by then, and can make an educated judgment of if somthing is accurate enough to my tastes- and i stll haven heard of any axes being used

On the topic of the contos

a spear is a spear is a spear- a pike is mearlyl a large one- a distinction can be made between a lance and a spear- but between a classical pike and a spear? no

Xen, you seem very young and immature.

There are people in this world, and on these boards, with a great deal more knowledge than yourself, and by that I mean not simply factual knowledge, for facts are the sort of vanities that absolutists cling to. No, I mean the sort of knowledge that comes from real study, comparative study, analytical study. Not simply the devouring of this's and that's.

Do us (and hey, why not, yourself) a favor. Get syncretic. And then learn to question yourself. I get the impression you spend a lot of time alone, and this is a valued outlet for you. So it baffles me that you can't use the potential relationships on this board to be challenged and bettered, and thereby learn to challenge and better your self.

Moreover, acquire some humility. It'll get you further in life, and less alone. And it'll help you with that vexing moving target that is certitude, because you'll see that certitude doesn't even exist, and that you're just fooling yourself.

If you could only see how nice some of your critics are trying to be to you.

Regardless, please show some respect for your elders, or just people in general, if you wish to invoke any for yourself.

Last, if you're gonna fashion yourself a message board scholar, please try to be more thorough and self-critical in your work. The slipshod assertions and emphatic, childish retorts are tiring for those of us who have our own children to raise.

I suggest you ask merelyl the friends i have on CFC how i act in actual conversation over the internet, as i doubt you'll ever meet me, or the people a I care for in my daily life in person- but i assure you, they alone would refute just about everything you have assumed about me, but dont take my word for it, go ask them.

looks great i'm gonna try to use them if i can.

Any chance the viking Tarakan will be redone too?

double post

The chance is not so bad after all, but it takes a while longer. And note, the Tarkan is a Hun unit. At least in AoK ;).

some more middle eastern units PLEAAASEEE

Sorry to disappoint you :(, but AoK is euro-centric. There are only a Heavy Camel Rider and a War Elephant to do. The two Janissaries are practically finished and will be post soon :).

2 Janissaries? I hope the generic arquebusier is coming up too

Yes, one with head cover and one without! :D

New Cataphract version 1.02 available now. Click here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1642649#post1642649) :).

Ah, Aluminm, can't wait for the janissaries, good work so far man :goodjob: :thumbsup:

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:lol: Xen is quite a bit stubborn but I laughed when I read this part:

I get the impression you spend a lot of time alone, and this is a valued outlet for you.

Incredible! I corrected vertical offset to some units, but your quality is unreachable...

Xen, don't worry about Redking...probably he's the frustrated here

Xen, you seem very young and immature.

There are people in this world, and on these boards, with a great deal more knowledge than yourself, and by that I mean not simply factual knowledge, for facts are the sort of vanities that absolutists cling to. No, I mean the sort of knowledge that comes from real study, comparative study, analytical study. Not simply the devouring of this's and that's.

A fact is a fact until proven otherwise. Rather than being a "Drive-By" Critic, maybe you should actually point out where Xen's wrong.

Rhye and SoG: Regardless of whatever faults Xen and Redking have that debate was in March; there's no reason to bring it back alive after such a long time. Don't pull the stake out and you should be ok. ;)

Oh I'm sorry I didn't read the date

Aluminum, I added a bunch of your units to my mod, and they look great! Nice work! However, upon play-testing it, I built a Mameluke, which looks fine. Next turn, I should have my first cataphract finished... but the game crashed! It says it needs the art/units/cataphract/cataphract.ini file. I didn't see one with the d/l, and none of the other units need it. Where can I find it, please?

EDIT: Please disregard. Stupid me! :crazyeye: I simply forgot to take out the "AoK" from the file name. Did that, and it works fine! Good looking unit too!

Hey Aluminum, I've been going along, updating the units in my mod with your much improved versions, and I wanted to thank you for the time it must have taken. These units look much, much better than the originals.
Oh and the link for the cataphract on the front page gives me a 'page not found' message- just thought you should know.

Thanks, waldoa. The link is fixed. :)

Is there a way to get the cleric's action to heal your units that the cleric is next to? Or can units only ever attack?

Unfortunately they can only attack or defend. You can incorporate the cleric anyway you want, I personally give him a defensive bombardment so he can weaken oncoming attackers, kinda like boosting morale and demoralizing attackers at the same time.

Just my 12 rupees on the matter :)

Ocedius... methinks your another fan of Zelda. Am I right?

Deciding how to use Priest-type units in game is challenging. In order to simulate the "convert" power featured in Age of Kings, the Enslavement flag works. Some(like Ak47) have had the "unknown nationality" flag checked as well, but I've found that the AI abuses this(Capturing cities without being at war for example). But to each his own I suppose.

...(Capturing cities without being at war for example). ...That's not possible in C3C, it was changed from PTW.

Ocedius... methinks your another fan of Zelda. Am I right?

Deciding how to use Priest-type units in game is challenging. In order to simulate the "convert" power featured in Age of Kings, the Enslavement flag works. Some(like Ak47) have had the "unknown nationality" flag checked as well, but I've found that the AI abuses this(Capturing cities without being at war for example). But to each his own I suppose.

Whats a 'Zelda' ? :mischief:

That's not possible in C3C, it was changed from PTW.

Never had this happen to me. But that hasn't stopped me from DL all of Al's AoK units and using 'em. Especailly the Sabatour .. :p

You know the Legend of Zelda...something tells me though that your playing me for the fool.... :lol:

The Sabataur/Petard is another hard one to use....How do you simulate the "Suicide" ability?

make it like a cruise missle.

You know the Legend of Zelda...something tells me though that your playing me for the fool.... :lol:

The Sabataur/Petard is another hard one to use....How do you simulate the "Suicide" ability?

I use it like a cruise missle, with additional HP, and defense. A cruise missile with an attitude. :smoke:

I never thought of that(I honestly have never played well into the Modern Era...I always got a cultural victory before that...pain when your trying to playtest a mod)...

I never thought of that(I honestly have never played well into the Modern Era...I always got a cultural victory before that...pain when your trying to playtest a mod)...

So turn off Cultural Victory when you playtest ;)

-Oz

Thats what I'm doing now actually...Ive also increase the turn limit to 1000.....mhahaha! :goodjob:

Forgive me if I missed it, but is there a re-worked Crossbowman in here?

There is another AOK Conversion Collection post that has many more of the game's units. The units were also more recently updated there so they run a slight bit better, although you have to really look hard at some of them to tell the difference.

There is another AOK Conversion Collection post that has many more of the game's units. The units were also more recently updated there so they run a slight bit better, although you have to really look hard at some of them to tell the difference.
Believe me. They ARE better! ;)



@Gorn
Here is the link (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?&postid=1768789#post1768789) . :)

Many thanx!

Possibly, not the right Forum for this but Aluminum as you are such a prolific unit resizer...could you give me an idea how you an expert do it..

First I'll tell you what I'm doing and then maybe you can drop a few hot tips

I open the unit in FLCster and then export it to a Storyboard pcx.
I then resize the unit in photo editor and copy it to another pcx file.
I open the resized pcx in paint and copy the enlarged units over the original Pcx.

The problem is A. that the Alpha Blending always stuffs up
B. this is a very laborious way of doing it

Any help or advice would be appreciated as I surely cant take this long..

Thanks in advance

Digger

Digger, use Steph's SBB (Story Board Builder). :)

Thanks mrtn

Will check that out

SBB uses the simplest resizing method (Pixel resize called in PSP). The result is sharp but distorted. Also you will lost the grid. The SSS editor is better. But you have to download and install the complete SSS + Microsoft.NET.

Possibly, not the right Forum for this but Aluminum as you are such a prolific unit resizer...could you give me an idea how you an expert do it..
I think it's the best you write me a PM, if you still need help. What unit do you want to resize and does your resized unit work at all?


I open the unit in FLCster and then export it to a Storyboard pcx.
There is no other way at the moment.

I then resize the unit in photo editor and copy it to another pcx file. I open the resized pcx in paint and copy the enlarged units over the original Pcx.
I don't know Photo Editor and Paint. For this task the best programs are Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro or Gimp. I could explain it for this programs. Maybe I will make a tutorial for resizing and the palette issue in the next time.

The problem is A. that the Alpha Blending always stuffs up
The Alpha colors are defined by the positions in the palette. Smoke is index 224 - 239 and shadow 240 - 255. 255 is the background color. Give each alpha color a unique hue. Like in the image below.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/Palette_example.gif

B. this is a very laborious way of doing it
The forenamed programs do help you. But you still need Flicster and a graphic program.

Aluminium,

Thankyou for the detailed reply, looks like I will have to get my hands on Paintshop Pro or Photshop..

I did notice the distortion using SBB.,When I resized the unit in photo editor or paint the images were superior, so I figured I would go down that path..

The Alpha blending issue is a little strange as I though that the default bground colour was Magenta, which is a primary colour on the RGB scale.

I tried enlarging the frames in FLCster and then importing the unit that I'd resized, but the resize in Paint/Photeditor is not even from frame to frame and the size mismatch causes FLCster to crash..

I will check out the full version of the SSS editor and give that a whirl...

BTW the unit I'm trying to Resize is the European Spearman..needs to be about 10% bigger I think...

Thanks for the detailed reply..

Looking for an India Elephant unit with riflemen sitting in a cage atop it. Could be the India Cavalry unit with riflemen atop it in the elephant cage.

Dom Pedro II has made such a unit. Unfortunately, it's one of his early works which have some problems. But he has said that he will redo this old units anytime. I hope so.

Here is the link (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Elephant_Cavalry.zip).

Hey Aluminium, I like your icon, the man in a suit. Do you have that as a unit?

This is just the standard male from Poser 3. It was a test some times ago. There are only this two animations + a funny walk, but no complete unit. Sorry. :)

well in this case a Cataphract is a byzantine medium horseman(heavy would be kataphraktoi) wich is a byzantine vesion of a knight
they use bow,lance,and sword

Of course the original defintion means armour in greek
the Cataphract is guy with a alot of armour(especially the kataphraktoi and the cataphracts of Mesopotanion Roman era Suelid Empire and such).
Although this Cataphrat always struck me as wrong for the Byzantines.
But I know for sure the Kataphraktoi was wearing A chainmail tunic(basicly a dress sine it went down the ankles,A Scale mail Chestplate err mailchest..thing,a Helmet that that has chainmail hangings going to the shoulders and a horse that had a scale mail hanging going from the head to the ankles of the horse(except the butt).The kataphract did not have a bow but had a lance and a sword.


ANYWAY.....Great Remakes of conversionsaok units never looked right for some reason unil now

well thats creepy suddenly theres 4 pages or so...there was only one when i started typing

Thanks!

"well in this case a Cataphract is a byzantine medium horseman(heavy would be kataphraktoi) wich is a byzantine vesion of a knight"

Hmm, kataphraktoi is simply the greek plural of kataphrakt. I guess what you mean are the klibanophoroi. Both words are of persian origin. Here is a good explanation (http://www.iranchamber.com/history/sassanids/sassanian_army.php) of it. :)

I want to see a Teutonic Knight! That would be an awesome avatar! Great work, Aluminum!

I want to see a Teutonic Knight! That would be an awesome avatar! Great work, Aluminum!
You want to...? Click here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1710716#post1710716). :D