In this one scenario, with a huge 292 by 292 map and 30 civs. I was playing Germany and I was pretty powerful with 400 units in my army. There was only one civ that could have matched me and that was Rome. It had huge amounts of Infantry units and cavalry and a significant number of tanks. Romes capital was about two tiles inland and had almost every other great wonder that I had not built. It had two uranium with in its borders, and the only uranium in the entire Roman empire for that matter. I had no uranium and several other civs had already began building nukes. So naturally I wanted the city of Rome badly.

Me and Rome had been at war since the middle ages.
Until now the only fighting was between ships and maybe a few skirmishes here and there.

My civ was on a different continent. I had gathered about 20 transports, which in the scenario could hold 10 units each. I filled every one of them up with every unit availible. It took me a few turns but I finally got all the transports filled with tanks, infantry, cavalry and every unit I had left over. So that is already 200 units in a singe tile! Not to mention all the battleships, crusisers and destroyers I had.

To add to this enormous invasion I had 47 paratroopers on anairbase which would drop onto the uranium tiles and on that same airbase I had 6 helicopters loaded with infantry and marines which would do the same.

I was very certain that this was going to be easy.

My plan was to take a coastal city with marines, unload my tanks and cavalry and take Rome with my 200 units all in one turn. Then force the Romans into a peace treaty with them paying me tribute.

Well my marines took the closest coastal city which was Pompaeii. I lost about 10 good marines there. I moved in my transports and unloaded all my tanks and cavalry and used them to attack Rome, which was on a hill whichg added to their defense. The Romans had garrisoned it with a huge amount of Infantry, artillery and riflemen. We finally I took Rome and fortified all my units in it.

I then used all my airbases to transport the rest of my units to Rome and Pompeii. So now I had my whole military in these two cities.

I contacted Ceasar and tried to force him to give my a peace treaty and 60 gold per turn a ROP and some cities here and there. He accepted strangly enough.

This is when my plan went straight to heck. The freaken Ottomans signed an alliance against me with Rome! So now me and rome are back at war again! The Romans immediatly moved into my new territory with an endless supply of tanks. You know, when the AI keeps putting units into a tile for what seems like forever and when you right click it a huge list of units come up?

I tried bombing them, I tried shelling them but there was no end to these friggen tanks. After I used up all my units I hit the turn button and the romans began bombing the city and the units around it. Then their tanks went to work. They destroyed every last land unit I had in Rome and then went after Pompeii.

The Romans took back Pompeii and with them they took along my entire battleship fleet, countless arillery units, 14 bombers and 8 fighters. Which was my entire brand new airforce.

In the end only one half filled transport and a few cruisers and destroyers came back.

400 units!!!!!!!!! That was my entire army navy and Airforce destroyed in just two turns!!!!!!!!!

The only units I had left were some infantry that i left guarding my capital!!!

Needles to say I was a little frustrated.

Well, at least you'll save the treasury a bit in maintanence costs:D

Makes my loosing 20 odd heavy cavalry and swordsmen in Persia seem trivial.

I had a similar (although not nearly on the same scale) event happen to me when I was playing the spanish, and the enemy was the Mongols (aside from us, the only surviving civ was Rome, and they were bottled up on their Australlia-sized continent), and what I did was when it became appearant that the enemy would re-capture their cities before my slowazz transport ships could get reinforcements to them, I abandoned both cities when all I had left defending them were three heavily wounded marines between the two of them. Needless to say, it really torqued the enemy off, bit there wasn't much he could do, since all his invasion attempts into my territory met with crushing defeat after crushing defeat.:D

I like to call that maneuver "scorched earth":cool:

Still, bummer about those 400 units:(

Thats a lot of shields...

I'll say :eek:

I commend you keeping your calm:goodjob:

The only advice I have is to bring along a few nukes next time, that takes cares of those stacks of death, regardless of size. Of course I understand that in your situation that wasn't option.

Tough break, you'll get em next time.

What happened in the end though? Did you win?

I would certainly hope that he won! 400 units! (Sympathy alert) Yikes!! Ouch!! Eew! Well, anyway, it's good to know you are able to play a higher difficulty than me, at least(God, I say that to everybody! Even if it is true...)Good luck in your next game!!

Well, any aspects of invading Rome again was completely out of the question until i had nukes.

I did punish Rome by rebuilding my airforce and bombing every road, mine, irrigation, radar with in their territory and reduced all their cities to towns and destroyed all their harbors and airports.

Then when I did get nukes, I basicly nuked them out of the game as a major player.

Then after that, I invaded again. This time with only 10 modern armor and razed all their cities. (except Rome naturally)

Bitter sweet revenge

I won with a diplomatic victory.:D

Even after you used nukes? How?

Even after you used nukes? How?

How did I do what?

win a diplo victory after using nukes. The AI would normaly hate you after that

He was the ONLY one left! lol!:lol:

Originally posted by silver 2039
Even after you used nukes? How?

right before the vote sign mpp and give each the AI 100 gold thats will boost your diplo stance 10 points

Everybody used nukes, I guess. I never thought much into it.

Oh yeah alot of civs were "graciuos" towards me for signing military alliances and trading stuff for free.

hmmm... I was playing on a big map of Japan, as the Egyptians. I was positioned in the northwest corner of the main island, and had just finished ahem...'assimilating' India, and all the civs were in the middle ages, when Korea decided to declare war on me (I wasn't being forthcoming with trade concessions). It was a 16 civ game, and they were situated at the other end of the island, so I immediately thought "crusades always work!(heh)", so I started producing all sorts of knights, infantry and the like and signed right of passage agreements with the Mongols, Spanish, and Romans, whose territory I would need to pass through to attack the nearest Korean city, an isolated outpost halfway between Korea and Egypt. It took forever to get my forces there, and then laid siege to the city. Initially I was successful, and occupied it (though at an unneccessarily high body count) briefly, but around that time the Korean reinforcements arrived and Rome allied against me with Korea. The forces that weren't destroyed had to fight their way back to Egypt. All in all, I think I lost some 25 or 30 units for nothing. I got my revenge eventually though, capturing all but two Roman cities in the Renaissance and obliterating the Koreans in the Cold War-ish era...

I came kinda close. I had this huge navy that I've build up. I put everything into an invasion force, because there were just two continents seperated by a HUGE ocean. Well, nukes are available (tactical at least), but I had in advance nuked all roads to uranium and had subs with tacticals in range incase I needed to again. I spied on them-1 tactical nuke. I thought I was safe if I took proper precautions.

I move up my navy, filled with nearly my whole army and airforce, and, remembering the tactical nuke, I stop them just outside of range.

I didn't think to check for subs.

6/7 stacks were demolished. All I was able to do was capture a small island off their coast within range and sue for peace. I then built up as big a force as possible, took my subs and tactically nuked every inch of coach I could reach, went into the "great bay" that was in the middle and blew their capital to rubble, then landed a sizable, but comparitively miniscule force. Luckily, I was able to take half the island and sued for peace and got most of the rest. But still.... only time I saw my enemy use nuclear sub based nukes

400 units? ooooh... I hate most when you have a transport full of modern armour and it gets sunk... in a flash, one unit gets defeated and takes 8 others with it.

Originally posted by Bugfatty300
I did punish Rome by rebuilding my airforce and bombing every road, mine, irrigation, radar with in their territory and reduced all their cities to towns and destroyed all their harbors and airports.

Then after that, I invaded again. This time with only 10 modern armor and razed all their cities:D


Good to hear!

Sounds like payback was a b**** for Rome.:tank:

I did punish Rome by rebuilding my airforce and bombing every road, mine, irrigation, radar with in their territory and reduced all their cities to towns and destroyed all their harbors and airports.

Personally I hate doing that. It slows down progression of your forces. That's why I seriously regretted my fairly pointless double or triple nuking of Scandinavia. It destroyed all the railroads around the cities and really slowed me down.

Sounds like payback was a b**** for Rome.

The best part was when I was about to take the last city and I contacted Ceasar and asked him to surrender. He gave me Smart Weapons, stealth and 1500 gold for a peace treaty.

I bet the SOB thought he was in the all clear! But.....

I redeclared war and razed the city anyway! :lol: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!

*whistles* 400 units? Damn, thats a b*tch.

I had something lik ethat (nowehere near that large, tho). I was invading Carthrage, which was south of Greece (I was rome, and we were all that was left). Greece was gracious with me, so didn't help it's old ally hannibal.

I made my first ICBM, and, having already used around a dozen tactical nukes on hannibal, thought about seeing it's power.

Well, naturally, it was very powerful. But Greece declared war on me! (ending our trade agreements, which I had 3 luxeries from him :mad: )

He then used his navy to take out a stack of 5 transports, 3 of them w/ modern armour, the 4th with infantry, and the 5th with 2 infantry and the rest artillery!

slowed down my invasion of carthrage quite fast...

I redeclared war and razed the city anyway!

heh, yeah, in my current game I decided to make peace with the Indians and the Iroquois so I could get at least one city on the islands they have.

Then I start building a worker on each of them. My plan is to build an airbase and take over the island with my newly gotten foothole :soldier:

And of course then the rest of the world.