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EliitMees
Mar 26, 2004, 04:05 AM
*** GAME CANCELLED ***

Welcome to EliitGame.
This is the home thread of 8 Players Epic PBEM game with the rules and settings pretty close to standard. Everyone of those 8 players agree to make their moves daily and to play to the bitter end.

Introducing The Great Leaders of their tribes:
* EliitMees as Caliph EliitMees of the Arabs
* LouLong as King The_Oakster of the English
* portuga as Chairman Portuga of the Chinese
* akots as King Hammer of the Russians
* EL_OSO as Emperor EL_OSO of the Romans
* Rocinante as President Rocinante of the Americans
* MFCamillus as Chief MFCamillus of the Iroquois
* ChrisiusMaximus as King Tweedledee of the Sumerians

The Settings:
- Game Type: Play By Email
- Game Mode: Standard
- Turn Timer: None
- World Size: Standard
- Barbarian Activity: Roaming
- Land Mass: Random
- Water Coverage: 70% Water
- Climate: Normal
- Temperature: Temperate
- Age: 5 Billion
- Difficulty: Regent

The Rules:
- Allow Domination Victory
- Allow Space Race Victory
- Allow Diplomatic Victory
- Allow Conquest Victory
- Allow Cultural Victory
- Culturally Linked Start Locations
- Accelerated Production
- Allow Cultural Conversions
- Preserve Random Seed

Rocinante
Mar 27, 2004, 12:58 AM
turn one sent to MFCamillus

Tweedledee
Mar 27, 2004, 10:17 AM
3950 BC sent to EliitMees

EliitMees
Mar 27, 2004, 05:42 PM
we are in turn 2 now :)
good start

Rocinante
Mar 28, 2004, 08:56 PM
3950 sent to MFCamillus

EliitMees
Mar 29, 2004, 07:19 AM
3900 BC to The Oakster

EL_OSO
Apr 01, 2004, 01:33 PM
3900 Sent to Rocinante

Rocinante
Apr 01, 2004, 04:03 PM
over to MFCamillus patched to v1.20

MFCamillus
Apr 01, 2004, 04:32 PM
over to MFCamillus patched to v1.20 :confused:

I thiink we all need to stop and discuss the v1.2 upgrade before anyone installs the patch.

Since the V1.2 upgrade is not compatible backwards it has to be done by everyone, or not at all.

I know that I have a few other games that I am participating in and so have to coordinate there also. So either we all move to 1.2 or we stay on 1.15 which is what the game was published as.

Eliit - your thread and game.

EliitMees
Apr 01, 2004, 04:44 PM
I guess if someone is alredy upgraded to 1.20 , then we all have to do so in order to load the game. There's also some PBEM fixes in that patch and I believe the whole PBEM world will upgrade soon, so must we.

Rocinante
Apr 01, 2004, 04:54 PM
I had to patch up to play my other PBEMs. I don't have two hard drives so I can only run one version and that will be v1.20--the latest version. It only takes a few minutes to do and the changes are listed at the site--they seem minor but it is best to know what they are. Go for the download here (http://www.firaxis.com/downloads_detail.cfm?file_id=72)

MFCamillus
Apr 01, 2004, 05:03 PM
I actually have had it downloaded for a day or two. I just need to coordinate my other games.

portuga
Apr 01, 2004, 05:15 PM
I also would rather wait a couple of days.
Just until the other games I'm playing decide to upgrade.

The_Oakster
Apr 04, 2004, 02:35 PM
Hi everyone,

Can we decide on a version then as 1.22 is out now?

EliitMees
Apr 04, 2004, 03:25 PM
1.22 fails to load 1.20 saves, so please do not upgrade to 1.22!
We'll stay with 1.20 until Firaxis makes another patch, patching previous patches :confused:

EL_OSO
Apr 04, 2004, 05:33 PM
Hopefully the other game I am involved in will follow suit and patch. Otherwise I'll be stuck deciding on which game to drop. :(

If they do patch and I'm able to play we should make sure all parties involved can patch in the future before applying more patches.

~just my two cents.

portuga
Apr 04, 2004, 05:41 PM
I believe its possible to maintain several versions at the same time in your computer. Try this: (I'm quoting heihojin)

It is relatively simple to maintain two distinct installations of Conquests. If you haven't yet upgraded, and are still using v1.15 Beta:
1. Rename the Civilization III\Conquests folder to "Conquests v1.15 Beta" or something like that.
2. Uninstall Conquests with "Add/Remove Programs" from your Control Panel.
3. Reinstall Conquests to the default folder.
4. Install the patches for both v1.20

If you have already installed the v1.20 or v1.22 patches, you can follow the above steps to rename your Conquests folder to "Conquests v1.22", uninstall, reinstall, and then install the v1.15 Beta patch. Thankfully, all three patches can still be found at http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3patches.shtml .

MFCamillus
Apr 04, 2004, 05:50 PM
If you have not upgraded yet. It is also possible to just copy the Conquests folder (with all of the program files) to a different location. Thus with a Conquests folder under CivIII and a Conquests folder under My Docs, you have two locations. Upgrade one to v1.2 and the other stays v1.15.

Due to disparities in the games that I am playing I am operating under this type of a dual install. You just have to remember which game is under which version.

EliitMees
Apr 05, 2004, 03:05 PM
3850 BC turn sent to The Oakster (v1.20)

The_Oakster
Apr 06, 2004, 11:17 AM
Turn passed on to portuga

Rocinante
Apr 10, 2004, 11:01 AM
4 days, no post, where is game?

The_Oakster
Apr 12, 2004, 12:25 AM
Can who ever has received the turn please post here so we can try and find it?

I received it from EliitMees, i sent it to portuga and he said he received it......

Now where is it.

EL_OSO
Apr 12, 2004, 02:14 PM
Either Portuga or Hammer has it. I haven't received it yet.

portuga
Apr 12, 2004, 04:31 PM
I sent it to Hammer on 6th of april. I'll send it again.

EL_OSO
Apr 12, 2004, 10:02 PM
Turn sent

Rocinante
Apr 13, 2004, 01:49 AM
over to MFCamillus

Tweedledee
Apr 14, 2004, 10:07 AM
sent

EliitMees
Apr 14, 2004, 10:20 AM
turn 5, 3800 BC
received, played and transmitted to The Oakster
:)

The_Oakster
Apr 14, 2004, 02:25 PM
I have received turn 5 from eliitmees but i am away from home 'til monday so i cant complete it until then.

Sorry for the inconvenience once again...

It will get done and sent to portuga on monday.

The_Oakster
Apr 19, 2004, 07:13 AM
Turn 5 sent to Portuga.

Finally....;)

EliitMees
Apr 20, 2004, 08:42 AM
turn 6 up and running

The_Oakster
Apr 20, 2004, 09:32 AM
Super quick turn around - Well Done Guys :goodjob:

Turn 6 winging its way to Portuga!!

EliitMees
Apr 21, 2004, 09:35 AM
turn 7 up and running
just happy to see this game running smoothly :)

The_Oakster
Apr 21, 2004, 10:14 AM
Turn 7 sent to Portuga.

EL_OSO
Apr 21, 2004, 12:06 PM
Turn sent yesterday

Rocinante
Apr 21, 2004, 12:46 PM
sent to MFCamillus yesterday also

The_Oakster
Apr 21, 2004, 12:54 PM
You sent turn 7 yesterday? :confused:

Rocinante
Apr 21, 2004, 12:58 PM
Yesterday I played & sent 3750BC which is turn 6
I guess turn 7 is on its way but hasn't made it here yet

Rocinante
Apr 21, 2004, 07:22 PM
turn 7 over to MFC

MFCamillus
Apr 21, 2004, 10:17 PM
Off to TweedleDee.

EliitMees
Apr 22, 2004, 06:10 AM
turn 8 up and running

I regret to inform you that I am going to Russia for the weekend, so I will be away starting Friday afternoon and until Sunday evening. My apologies for slowing the game down for couple of days.

EL_OSO
Apr 22, 2004, 08:55 AM
Well at least that's two of us that won't be here. I did send an email earlier in the week to all of the PBEM games that I'm involved in.

I will also be unavailable this weekend from Friday AM through Sunday PM.

Rocinante
Apr 23, 2004, 10:40 AM
3650BC to MFCamillus

EliitMees
Apr 26, 2004, 07:18 AM
Turn 9 is on its way to The Oakster's hands

EliitMees
Apr 30, 2004, 05:46 AM
who's got the turn and didn't send it?

EL_OSO
Apr 30, 2004, 12:35 PM
I haven't received it yet.

MFCamillus
Apr 30, 2004, 04:24 PM
It has not passed through my hands yet.

portuga
May 01, 2004, 04:07 PM
Hammer is having some problems playing games in v1.20 an v1.22.
I sent him the instructions to have the two versions installed, so I guess the game will resume soon.

Tweedledee
May 05, 2004, 03:08 PM
It's 12 days ago now that I received the last file. Still a problem with the patch?

EliitMees
May 05, 2004, 03:32 PM
wwhill is unable to play our game anymore. I'll try to find replacement for him

LouLong
May 06, 2004, 01:44 AM
OK ! I will play Russians.

But I hope wwhill just has pbs with the different versions only because he is in grognards too.

EliitMees
May 06, 2004, 05:24 AM
LouLong: sorry, but Akots sent private message earlier. I guess it would be fair if I give Russians to him.

Everybody: Akots is now playing Russians. His e-mail: akots AT mail . ru

LouLong
May 06, 2004, 05:29 AM
No pb. I proposed for helping :) (I know what it is like to search for a replacement :( ). Have a fun game !

portuga
May 06, 2004, 06:13 AM
I sent the last turn to Akots.

Rocinante
May 06, 2004, 10:50 AM
Akots--congrats on the superb SGOTM1 victory!

akots
May 06, 2004, 08:21 PM
Turn 9 received from Portuga and Eliit, played, and sent to EL_OSO.

@LouLong: Please hang around.

@Rocinante: Thanks but I don't deserve it. I think I played only 10 turns myself. It was a great team and great game.

Rocinante
May 07, 2004, 12:03 AM
3600BC sent to MFCamillus

Tweedledee
May 07, 2004, 06:37 AM
3550 BC sent to EliitMees

EliitMees
May 07, 2004, 08:10 AM
turn 10 started

Rocinante
May 12, 2004, 04:00 PM
6 days no game

EliitMees
May 12, 2004, 04:05 PM
I sent the game 2 times to The Oakster but he's not responding

akots
May 13, 2004, 11:14 PM
May be time for LouLong to step in...

EliitMees
May 15, 2004, 09:03 AM
Yeah, it looks like we have to drop The Oakster too :(

Tweedledee
May 17, 2004, 05:58 AM
Still no replacement found?

LouLong
May 17, 2004, 10:11 AM
OK, seems you have waiting for quite some time so I will do the replacement. Don't be mad if I mix diplo with other PBEMs since most of you guys are already in a few of them lol.

Tweedledee
May 19, 2004, 02:58 AM
So we could go on with the game now?

akots
May 19, 2004, 04:01 AM
I got the save from Portuga (turn 10), played and mailed to EL_OSO

Rocinante
May 19, 2004, 10:41 AM
3550BC sent to MFCamillus

MFCamillus
May 20, 2004, 07:36 AM
Turn sent on to Tweedledee

EliitMees
May 20, 2004, 09:56 AM
it's alive!
turn 11 started

LouLong
May 20, 2004, 10:14 AM
Sent to Portuga

portuga
May 20, 2004, 05:30 PM
Turn played.

Unfortunately I'll be away until the 25th of May. Sorry...

akots
May 20, 2004, 10:55 PM
Turn 11 dispatched to El_OSO.

Tweedledee
May 22, 2004, 03:15 AM
3450 BC sent to Eliit

LouLong
May 22, 2004, 05:40 AM
Sent to Portuga.
= no action before the 25th

akots
May 26, 2004, 11:39 PM
Turn 12 goes to El_OSO. Where are you guys hiding? Have not met anyone yet.

Rocinante
May 27, 2004, 11:16 AM
turn 12 sent to MFCamillus

Tweedledee
May 28, 2004, 11:04 AM
3400 BC sent to Eliit

EliitMees
May 28, 2004, 04:05 PM
turn 13 started

akots
May 29, 2004, 02:58 AM
Turn goes to El_OSO

Tweedledee
May 30, 2004, 03:24 AM
3350 BC sent to Eliit

EliitMees
May 30, 2004, 05:11 AM
turn 14 started

akots
May 31, 2004, 04:49 PM
Turn dispatched to El_OSO

Rocinante
May 31, 2004, 09:47 PM
3350BC sent to MFC

Tweedledee
Jun 01, 2004, 09:32 AM
3300 BC sent to Eliit

EliitMees
Jun 01, 2004, 01:36 PM
turn 15 started

Rocinante
Jun 03, 2004, 05:11 PM
turn 15 played and sent to MFCamillus

Tweedledee
Jun 06, 2004, 04:26 AM
sent to Eliit

Tweedledee
Jun 08, 2004, 08:43 AM
3200 BC sent to Eliit

LouLong
Jun 08, 2004, 04:45 PM
GPS to Portuga

akots
Jun 09, 2004, 12:09 AM
Dispatched to El_OSO

Rocinante
Jun 11, 2004, 02:19 PM
MFCamillus email has been returned twice so I'm posting the save here.

LouLong
Jun 15, 2004, 03:31 PM
MFCamillus email has been returned twice so I'm posting the save here.

Apparently he dropped from PBEM of mine (AoW) about the same time... Once he happened to be on a business trip without any Civ access. Maybe it is the same again ?

Tweedledee
Jun 16, 2004, 04:25 PM
3150 BC sent to Eliit

LouLong
Jun 17, 2004, 03:14 PM
Sent to Portuga

Tweedledee
Jun 20, 2004, 03:56 AM
3100 BC sent to Eliit

LouLong
Jun 20, 2004, 12:49 PM
sent to Portuga

EliitMees
Jun 22, 2004, 04:33 PM
turn 20 now started

LouLong
Jun 23, 2004, 03:05 AM
GPS to Portuga

Tweedledee
Jun 27, 2004, 05:12 AM
3000 BC sent to Eliit

EliitMees
Jun 27, 2004, 10:20 AM
turn 21 sent to LouLong

EliitMees
Jul 01, 2004, 04:34 PM
I am going on vacation tomorrow and will be back on 12 July. My apologies for slowing the game down.

EliitMees
Jul 13, 2004, 11:07 AM
Well, who has the game now? I sent it to LouLong on 27th June and got confirmation from him on 28th.

portuga
Jul 13, 2004, 12:05 PM
Hi, welcome back!
I received the turn from Loulong and sent it to akots on the 28th of June.
I didn't get a confirmation, but akots doesn't usually confirms reception.
Did you get it akots?

Tweedledee
Jul 19, 2004, 12:54 PM
I'm very lucky because I found a new job that was starting today, but now I can not promise anymore to play my turn daily. If the game will slow down because of me I'll look for a replacement, but first I'll try to continue.

ChrisiusMaximus
Aug 22, 2004, 10:30 AM
Ive played the turn and sent it to Eliit, Ive agreed to stand in for Tweedle Dee so hello to all of you in this game :)

Lets hope we can get this baby moving along nicely :)

EliitMees
Aug 22, 2004, 04:02 PM
Well, I'm trying to re-animate this game. Replacement found for Tweedledee - thanks to ChrisiusMaximus. I hope we can keep it alive now. Turn 21 sent to LouLong.

Von Diplomacy
Aug 23, 2004, 03:20 AM
hi, any room for me by any chance?

MFCamillus
Aug 25, 2004, 08:35 AM
3000BC sent to Chrisius.

ChrisiusMaximus
Aug 25, 2004, 06:23 PM
:bounce: back to Eliit :D

EliitMees
Aug 26, 2004, 03:35 AM
thank you all for supporting this!

turn 22 sent to LouLong

ChrisiusMaximus
Aug 27, 2004, 02:58 PM
Once more to Eliit 2900BC.sav

EliitMees
Aug 27, 2004, 03:17 PM
Turn 23 started and 2900 BC sent to LouLong :)

LouLong
Aug 28, 2004, 04:12 AM
GPS to Portuga.

Well, apart from the fact it is 1.20 (arghhh it is the only one), I kind of like my start !

EliitMees
Aug 28, 2004, 05:04 AM
LouLong: as far as I know you are playing in Heihojin's 14th game, which is 1.20 too :)

LouLong
Aug 28, 2004, 05:12 AM
Yep, my bad ! Just means twice the trouble ! lol

ChrisiusMaximus
Aug 30, 2004, 08:40 AM
2850BC to Eliit :)

EliitMees
Aug 30, 2004, 09:15 AM
turn 24 started

ChrisiusMaximus
Sep 10, 2004, 01:07 PM
Wheres this one got to ???

EliitMees
Sep 18, 2004, 06:12 AM
Everybody who did not receive 2850 BC turn please post here.

LouLong
Sep 21, 2004, 11:44 AM
Sent the turn 24 (2850 BC) and got a GPS from Portuga on the 30th of August.

I was doing OK I think :-(

portuga
Sep 21, 2004, 12:44 PM
I sent it to akots on the 30th. But I'm not sure I got a GPS from akots...

I don't even remember what civ I was playing in this game :)

akots
Sep 21, 2004, 09:27 PM
Turn 24 went out from my computer on 8/31 about 1am. Whether the intended recipient got that, I have no idea.

ChrisiusMaximus
Sep 24, 2004, 03:26 AM
so its with EL_OSO ?????

EliitMees
Sep 26, 2004, 09:39 AM
It's been 6 months since this game started and we made only 24 turns. In fact, I realised that 8 players is too many for PBEM game. I'm participating in 3 such games and all of them are practically not moving. I suggest that we cancel this game, because it's hard to remember what you were doing in the game with such speed and it's definitely no fun.

Anyway, thank you all for trying to keep it alive :)

LouLong
Sep 26, 2004, 10:21 AM
OK
I agree actually even though I quite liked my position and development.

8-players PBEM are possible IMHO provided you choose the players and even then problems might occur.

But I must say even Gorganrds went further than 24 turns ;-)

akots
Sep 26, 2004, 03:38 PM
OK, I agree. The worst thing that killed the game was patch 1.20 IMO.