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Garry Denke
Apr 16, 2004, 12:36 PM
Heelstone Carvings "Quartz Hydration"

The new technique, called "Quartz Hydration", takes advantage of the natural properties of quartz, a mineral found in many rocks. Whenever a rock containing quartz is cut or polished, as in the world famous Lion head, Calf head, Man face, and Eagle wings' Heelstone Carvings at Stonehenge, the quartz at the surface is left exposed. Over time, water diffuses into the quartz, forming a layer. By measuring the layer, how long ago the rock was cut is determined. The technique can be used to date stone carvings that were created between 100 and about 100,000 years ago. A paper outlining the technique is available in the current issue of the Journal of Archaeological Science, dated July 2004.

http://today.uci.edu/news/release_detail.asp?key=1123

REPORT ON THE EXCAVATIONS AT STONEHENGE DURING THE SEASON OF 1923
William Hawley
Antiquaries Journal. J., 5
1925
21-50

STONEHENGE
R.J.C. Atkinson
PENGUIN BOOKS
in association with Hamish Hamilton
1956
ISBN 0140136460
INDEX 221
Carvings, modern, 33-4, 46-7
prehistoric, 43-7, 91-3, 139-40,
178-9, 208-9
Heel Stone, 29-30,68-9, 70, 76,
105, 173, 203

STONEHENGE
in its landscape
Twentieth-century excavations
Rosamund M J Cleal, K E Walker, and R Montague
with major contributions by
Michael J Allen, Alex Bayliss, C Bronk Ramsey, Linda Coleman,
Julie Gardiner, P A Harding, Rupert Housley, Andrew J Lawson,
Gerry McCormac, Jacqueline I McKinley, Andrew Payne,
Robert G Scaife, Dale Serjeantson, and Geoff Wainwright
ENGLISH HERITAGE
1995
ARCHAEOLOGICAL REPORT 10
ISBN 1850746052
INDEX 603, 608
carvings, prehistoric 30-3,
Plate 7.2
Heelstone (Stone 96)
25, 26, 166, 269, 270, 271, 272

PROCEEDINGS OF THE BRITISH ACADEMY . 92
Science and Stonehenge
Edited by
BARRY CUNLIFFE & COLIN RENFREW
Published for THE BRITISH ACADEMY
by OXFORD UNIVERSITY PRESS
1997
ISBN 0197261744
INDEX 351, 355
carvings, prehistoric 5, 29, 35, 150, 338
distribution 150, 163, 190
Heelstone (Stone 96) 15, 16, 28, 155

HENGEWORLD
Mike Pitts
C
CENTURY . LONDON
2000
ISBN 0712679545
INDEX 402, 403
Stonehenge
carvings 8, 26, 265-6, 296-7, 27,
266
Heelstone 8, 96, 135, 139,
145-50, 154, 229, 266, 275, 7,
138, 146, 230

http://www.freewebs.com/garrydenke/

Amenhotep7
Apr 16, 2004, 12:44 PM
That's great, but what do all the little numbers mean?:hmm:

Xen
Apr 17, 2004, 09:49 PM
no thank you, pawpaw IIRC debunked your ancestors theory long ago, and you effort to proove it will not sink in here still, simply put, we're the masses and we dont know, nor care what all those numbers mean, or how obsure angles gives any light what so ever to that old theory

Taliesin
Apr 17, 2004, 10:07 PM
I don't get it. What is this about? Has this subject been posted before?

Kafka2
Apr 18, 2004, 06:33 AM
A UC Irvine archaeological scientist has created a new method for determining the approximate age of many artifacts between 50,000 to 100,000 years old – a period for which other dating methods are less effective.

In a recent study in the Journal of Archaeological Science, Jonathon Ericson, professor and chair of UCI’s Environmental Health, Science and Policy Department, and colleagues introduce a new mineral dating technique called quartz hydration dating. The technique dates artifacts containing quartz, a common mineral found in almost every type of rock.

Quartz hydration dating is based on a natural phenomenon that occurs when a piece of quartz is fractured. When a statue or a common chopping tool or hand ax is made, the surface is chipped, flaked, fractured or polished. Over time, water diffuses into the freshly exposed surface forming a hydration layer. The thickness of this layer can then be measured by a nitrogen particle beam to determine how many years ago the object was made or fractured naturally.

According to Ericson, quartz hydration can date objects that are between 100 and 1 million years old to within 20 to 35 percent of the object’s age.


Let me get this straight- this means they are able to use techniques that can date quartz surfaces, with a margin of error of 200,000 to 300,000 years.

It's also implied that there is a refined version, that may be useful on artifacts 50,000 to 100,000 years old.

How does this apply to the 3,000 to 6,000 year old stones at Stonehenge?

Kafka2
Apr 18, 2004, 07:26 AM
Lordy Bob, Mr Denke. I've just been off for a browse to try getting a better grasp of what you're trying to tell us, and the stuff I've found isn't enlightening but it sure as hell is entertaining.

How are you and Doug Weller getting on these days?

Serutan
Apr 18, 2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Kafka2

How are you and Doug Weller getting on these days?


Kafka,

Is Weller the guy behind the "pyramids were built by a more
advanced civilization in 10000 BC" nonsense?

Birdjaguar
Apr 18, 2004, 01:11 PM
Ok I understod the UCI press release. But the garrydenke website made no sense. Heel Stone/Hele Stone? Gold Ark?

@garry denke: how about two sentences restating what this thread is about.

Knight-Dragon
Apr 19, 2004, 06:27 AM
Rather confusing thread; closed.