Hello!
My name is Atdhe Shala and I live in Kosovo in a small City Called Rhovec (Population:20,000)
Well I saw with my eyes what Serbian armies did here in Kosovo

Let’s start…
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The war begun after the commander of the Uçk (In Albanish: Ushtria çlirimtare e Kosovës – In English: Kosovo Liberation Army)Adem Jashari was killed in Drenica (A group of towns in Kosovo).The serbs killed him because the Uçk fought in hidden operations agasing the Serbs since 1992.After this the Uçk begun to keep towns and some cities. And so the war ok Kosovo started in March 1998. After three months the Uçk came in Rahovec.It was 17 June I think I cant remember very good.
Three days later the war in Rahovec started and we flee in a bunker near our house.
6 hours later (it was 9:30 PM) a grenade bllowed the wall of a house near us.
Later in the night we started to flee from Rahovec and after 1 Km we saw a tank I think I don’t know because it was night. We stopped because we were about 300 people but we were quiet. After about 5 minutes they begun to shoot (later we learned that The Serbian army killed there 20 people) but we started to walk quiet and flee from there.
5 hours after leaving Rahovec we were at Big Krusha (A small town).We housed there 12 days and than went to Prizren. Three days later we went back in rahovec and we saw the destroyed city.It was terrible my house was only robbed by the Serbian army and not destroyed. But this is by far not terrible what I saw…
Other peoples saw many more terrible things...
This was my Story what I saw in June there.
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This is the story of the war in Kosovo
After the war the Serbian army lost and captured towns and cities. They also killed many people there ( About 20,000 people were killed in the war and 5,000 were lost)
Here is about what they did here and the full story of the war.
The bombing of NATO
The Rambouillet Conference etc.
The war (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Kosovo%20War)

Thanks to all

It's always hard esp when experiencing these at first hand.

Best wishes and hang in there.

Yes it was very hard for me in that time

How's Kosovo today? There's little news nowadays, after the international focus had shifted elsewhere (Iraq, 911 etc).

Yes, this is a sad story. I heard many of them. Evil Serbs has killed so many people.:o

My condulences about the losses you had. It was an error to stop Milosevic not earlier. Nevertheless BOTH parts of the population of Kosovo has to look into the future and to forgive the hate and the cruelities of the other side. I know it sounds a bit well "strange" to hear it from a foreigner who heard about it only in TV. But the future can only be built when peace rules. I heard about Albanian attacks on Serbian civilists in the last weeks, This must stop. They have the right to live there as well as the Albanians. I don´t know the cruelities you saw. And your hate is explainable. But only doom can grow out of hate. Both sides must forgive.

Adler

Originally posted by XIII
How's Kosovo today? There's little news nowadays, after the international focus had shifted elsewhere (Iraq, 911 etc).

Kosovo is better than it was in the Serbian times.
The economy mis growing and the more and more people are finding jops.
Many states say that Kosovo fell back on the begining after this tourbles in the last month.
Yes it's true but in political sight it was pozitive for us because UNMIK (United Nations Mission In Kosovo) was like sleping.They didn't do anything pozitive last time

To Adler
I know we must forgive them and they must forgive us but i think this will hapen later in 10-15 years.
The serbs dont want Kosovo giving indipadence because here are a lot of natural resources (70% of the coal rezerves of serbia are here)
They want Kosovo back but this will hapen only in they dreams.
Kosovo is now in the road to Indipandence and all problems that we have now with the serbs will end when we will get our indipandence

I know it must have time to heal. And the whole situation is very delicate. We must see in the future...

Adler

Bright day
Deo- not only Serbs, but Macedonians and Bosnians I believe would object to Kosovo independence. And it is bot only matter of resources, AFAIK when Serbia was revived Kosovo was the core of it its hearth, even as brain dwelled in Belgrade. I do not want to touch you but I personally would never give up land. I clench my fists when I remember 1938 when my people were forced to give up their land. I understand your grief, but ask. Why cannot you live along? Nobody wants you to live together, just along. And in order to do so both sides must make compromises. Inow that my words sound stupid and that it is not often possible to do but must you spoeak as you speak?
May all your days be bright.

Welcome Deo;

A note: the problems of Kosovo run much deeper than you mentioned. Kosovo has strong cultural connections stretching back to the earliest medieval Serbian states, ancient Rastko and etc. Some of the earliest Serbian cultural relics are located in Kosovo, a fact any ultimate settlement of Kosovo's fate is going to have to address. There has been a significant demographic population shift in fairly recent times but this is in many ways just another typical example in Eastern Europe of what I call "overlapping histories", where one region has at different times - or sometimes even simultaneously - played host to more than one ethnic or national group. Sorting out these issues in modern times, in the days of nation-states and national sovereignty, is quite tricky. The 20th century proved that no absolute solution will ever be reached, that at best both sides (often with outside help and mediation) will have to accomodate one another somehow. I don't know if that means forgiveness, but it does mean acceptance.

Again, welcome to CFC; we are always looking for new faces in the History forum!

What you're fu*ink talking about deo You're spreading lies about Serbs how they're evil.Do you know why Slobodan Milosevic started to attack Albania people.Because you first started because you are thinking that Kosovo is yors Almost any Albanian people doesn't know Serbian language and why think for a moment and you'll find the answer.Albanian people came to Kosovo after Tito let them and after that they started to hunt and kil Serbian population on Kosovo.Have you seen what they done a month ago.They burnt 30 chruches,destroyed and robed thousands houses and homes.Now there is only 10 000 and 3 000 000 Albanians on Kosovo.They even opened the graves i throwed all the bones around.Therible....And don't to forget how many pople had to leave their homes and to escape from you in past 5 years.You should be shamed what you're talking....

Warned, for language and bypassing the censor. - XIII

And does anyone remember NATO bombing.It was only and only helping Albanians to came to Kosovo so that they from thta position can attack Russia which is American main plan.

Originally posted by Corey<PHT>
And does anyone remember NATO bombing.It was only and only helping Albanians to came to Kosovo so that they from thta position can attack Russia which is American main plan.

Was the Albanian mafia also involved?

Originally posted by Corey<PHT>
And does anyone remember NATO bombing.It was only and only helping Albanians to came to Kosovo so that they from thta position can attack Russia which is American main plan.
I wonder, then why we invaded Iraq instead of the Ukraine?

You Europeans are crazier than the yanks at times. Sometimes I think the USA, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are the only sane places left in the world- all countries with massive immigration from other parts of the world. Ethnic squabbles here are almost non existent compared to Europe/Asia/Middle East/Africa

Yes because in the USA, Canada (to some degree), Australia and New Zealand the original ethnic groups have been totally wiped out. Unfortunately in Europe, Asia and Africa they weren't so precise at killing or removing the other groups so problems still exist.

Originally posted by aaminion00
Was the Albanian mafia also involved?

Yes it was, along with Osama and Donald Duck. :lol:

p.s. Kao malo stariji, mogao bi da se malo uzdrzis od bilo kakvih zajedljivih/cinicnih komentara. Ne mora bas ceo svet da gleda koliko smo blesavi.

Originally posted by Corey<PHT>
What you're fu*ink talking about deo You're spreading lies about Serbs how they're evil.Do you know why Slobodan Milosevic started to attack Albania people.Because you first started because you are thinking that Kosovo is yors Almost any Albanian people doesn't know Serbian language and why think for a moment and you'll find the answer.Albanian people came to Kosovo after Tito let them and after that they started to hunt and kil Serbian population on Kosovo.Have you seen what they done a month ago.They burnt 30 chruches,destroyed and robed thousands houses and homes.Now there is only 10 000 and 3 000 000 Albanians on Kosovo.They even opened the graves i throwed all the bones around.Therible....And don't to forget how many pople had to leave their homes and to escape from you in past 5 years.You should be shamed what you're talking....

1. What? Do you think I’m lying what I have written is the truth.
And the link, do think that the website is lying.
2. Have you really learned that Albanians had settled Kosovo?
Yes it is true that Kosovo was conquered by Dusan but there lived Albanians and not Serbs and in the Turkish times also Serbs lived there but we were the most there.
And Kosovo was yours since 1912 after the Balkan war. But there had not been settlements of Albanians in Kosovo. We were here since 3000-2000 BC (I tolled you that in the new Civilizations thread in Civ 4) you colonized Kosovo.
3. About the churches I don’t need to talk because it was our mistake. But what do you think how many Albanian houses were destroyed in the war, how many people lived 1-2 years outside or in one in a small house (10-15 people slipped in a 4m2 )
4. Here are only 2.3-2.4 milion Albanians and about Serbs I don’t know but I remember in the days when the came in our class and fought with us. You don’t know about what you did here.
5. In my city 90% of us can the Serbian language speaking. We don’t want to learn it but we were must learned it. Before the war it was terrible here believe me.
6. And you did this not only here but also in Croatia and Bosnia

Originally posted by Corey<PHT>
And does anyone remember NATO bombing.It was only and only helping Albanians to came to Kosovo so that they from thta position can attack Russia which is American main plan.

I see you hate the Americans. And why should they attack Russia? Russia collapsed in 1994 and the cold war ended. America is now interested to improve they relations with Russia and working with them and not attacking them.

Hahahhahaa nemoj da lupas gluposti.Kakve veze ima to sto je Hladni rat zavrsen.Oni ih napadaju jer su rusi prepogati jer leze na zaltnom rudniku.Sta mislis zasto su napali Irak.Zbog oruzja masovnog unistenja jeli...nemoj da pricas ono sto ne znas i ja ne mrzim Amerikance vec njihovu vladu i sta smo to mi radili u Hrvatskoj i Bosni ako smem da znam verziju te price sto vama govore.Takode Albanci nemaju nikakva prava da na ovakav nacin traze nezavisnost jer to je nehumano i da li znas ti da se vi nekada bili pravoslavci pa su vac Turci za vreme invazije preobratili u Njihovu veru i vi ste to dopustili a sada vasu staru bracu mrzite i ubijate.Pa vi niste ljudi....Zasto je vama prirodni prirastaj veci na Kosovu nego u Albaniji.Da li si znao da je Kosovo stara srpska prestonica o tako da vama nikako ne moze da pripada.

Calm folks! this leads to nothing. First yes Serbians were the main cause for the Kosovo war. And this war was justified because of the Serbian policy under this despot Milosevic. Nevertheless the Albanian UCK is not the liberation force she once was. Now there are many mafiosi. And yes the destrucion of Serbian churches is as evil as the burning of Albanian Mosques (sp.?). But each side has to understand the other: the Serbs must understand the Albanians for what hard life they had under Milosevic. And the Albanians that the Kosovo is a kind of sacred Earth for the Serbs. How it is possible to find a solution which is acceptable for both sides I don´t know. But both sides have to forgive the other side. This means not forget but forgive. But until then a few decades we´ll have to see...

Adler

Corey, this is an English forum since we do not speak all Serbocroat. So please send your messages in English.

Adler

Originally posted by Corey<PHT>
Hahahhahaa nemoj da lupas gluposti.Kakve veze ima to sto je Hladni rat zavrsen.Oni ih napadaju jer su rusi prepogati jer leze na zaltnom rudniku.Sta mislis zasto su napali Irak.Zbog oruzja masovnog unistenja jeli...nemoj da pricas ono sto ne znas i ja ne mrzim Amerikance vec njihovu vladu i sta smo to mi radili u Hrvatskoj i Bosni ako smem da znam verziju te price sto vama govore.Takode Albanci nemaju nikakva prava da na ovakav nacin traze nezavisnost jer to je nehumano i da li znas ti da se vi nekada bili pravoslavci pa su vac Turci za vreme invazije preobratili u Njihovu veru i vi ste to dopustili a sada vasu staru bracu mrzite i ubijate.Pa vi niste ljudi....Zasto je vama prirodni prirastaj veci na Kosovu nego u Albaniji.Da li si znao da je Kosovo stara srpska prestonica o tako da vama nikako ne moze da pripada.

necu da se pcujem ma sta me briga mene jer merzis ti albanci ja i mezim serbini i ne me boli kurac sta adiu amerikanci oki nemoj da mi ga mutis jabacuti sto picke matrine iterresujs ti za kozovu mi neqemo da primimo serbini jel serbini su cetnici.ma ko tebe te veruje sto albanci dosli u kosovo kosovo je albansko mjesto.

And speek english.This is a english forum

I just wanted to test you how do you know serbian and I saw that you suck....

Warned for flaming. - XIII

Originally posted by Adler17
Corey, this is an English forum since we do not speak all Serbocroat. So please send your messages in English.

Adler There's no Craotian language!!! They self gave it name Croatian but its just Serbian!!

Hey man i don't care about your language. I can now speak my own language here.
And watch what you are writing in your posts

Pls use 'Report to mod' function, rather than reply to flame/troll yourself in future. We keep the order around here. - XIII

Closed. :rolleyes:

This is getting out of hand, and pls note, guys, English only in these forums.