The last one, during the 1800's, dunno the name tho.

manchu "qing" dynasty

It is the Mandchu or the last dynasty, the Qing (the Qin dynasty was around 221 BC, so they are two different ones).
And they were the only one who had a protectorate in Mongolia (explains the inner Mongolia province of today), the Yuan (Mongols) did not have them.
These protectorates were organized end of XVIIth, beginning of XVIIIth century.

Next question :
The German colonies before WWI (1914) made up 84% of the German-controlled territories. How much percentage of the population did they represent (roughly) ?

:rolleyes: You give yourself the answer in post #58... 16% :p

You should have more sleep and drink less :sleep: :beer:

Arghhh ! It is just to see if my students remember lol

BTW Steph, you can try your luck (or knowledge) with the PM quizz.

Anyway, next question :
What have the first kings of Belgium, Rumania and Greece have in common ?

Hmm.
Belgium: Leopold I (1831-1865). By the way, the title is not king of Belgium, but king of the Belgians.
Greece: Otto (1832-1862)
Romania: Carol I (1881-1914).

They all have at least 1 o in their name? They all started to reign in the 19th century?
They were all of German origin? Carol from Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, Otto was the sone of King Ludwig I of Bavaria, and Leopold son of Francis Frederick of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfield ?

Indeed they were all German princes. The skills for being a German prince would lead mostly to unemployment with the progressive unification of Germany. So better work as an expatriate ;-). And Steph is right about Belgium, it is actually the king of the Belgium people.

Next question :
How many satrapies make up the Persian Empire at its maximum expansion ?

According to Darius's Behistun (521 BC)
Persia, Elam, Babylon (Assyria), Media,Yauna, Sardes, Countries by the Sea, Cappadocia, Armenia, Beyond the river, Egypt, Gandara, Sattagydia, Maka, Drangiana, Arachosia, Bactria, Sacae, Parthia, Aria, Chorasmia, Sogdania, Arabia.
So it should be around 23.
However, the list varies with different authors.
Darius Hystapis was the one who organized the empire in Satrapies, and the Behistun inscription listed 23.
On the other hand , Darius the Medes list 120 satrapies.

I'm not sure we can give an exact figures here, as it would require compiling and trying to match different sources which are not really agreeing.

In 518 (after the conquest of Egypt) there were 20 of them, the core ones, then some more conquests were done (Thrace, India) so I accept 23.

What are the five duties of a Muslim ?

In French, they are called "Pillars of Islam"
1: Saying that Allah is the unique God, and Mohammed his prophet
2: Pray 5 times a day
3: Give to the poors (but not only, it's more general than that)
4: Fasting during Ramadan
5: Going to Mecca as Pelerin

I'm not completly sure of the translations...

Yep (man, you answer too quickly ! I should post more questions lol):

indeed the five pillars are these :
3 is called zakat (some Muslim banks for instance have started to give some parts of their profits to the poors)
5 is called Hadj so when someone has that in his name, it usually means he has done the pilgrimage or his father/grandfather did it.

Next question :
In wht city or cities was the council of Trent held ?

Yes, and 1 is Chahada, 2 is Salat, and 4 Siam

Council of Trent : It's named after a Italian city, not far from Venice. I know it was very long (about 20 years), so it may have changed place, but I'm not sure.

Trento, Bologna (final phase)
Bye :)

Gagliaudo got it.

It obviously started in Trento (hence the name) but because of difficulties between the Pope and the Emperor it stopped then resumed in Bologna then stopped then resumed again in Bologna.

Next question :
What was specific in the colony of Maryland at its beginnings ?

i believe it was a "catholic" colony--lord baltimore founded it

Don't remember the name of the Lord (but Baltimore could definitely be it) but you are right about religion. Maryland was erected as THE catholic colony of England, hence its name coming from the Queen Mary.

Next question :
During what European war did Great-Britain succeed in capturing the capital of a foreign Empire that would become the pearl of its colonies ?

Next question :
During what European war did Great-Britain succeed in capturing the capital of a foreign Empire that would become the pearl of its colonies ?

7years war--dehli & india

Nope. Albeit the 7 years' war was instrumental in preparing the future domination of India by the English (over France actually), it did not see the conquest and keeping of Dehli.

The Brits catured New Amsterdam, and it became New York, of course. Back then, I believe New Amsterdam/York was the capital of the Dutch colonies in the Americas...

Tal

Well, in this case... Québec could be considered the capital of French colonies in Canada... which was one of the pearl of british Empire, didn't it? ;)

If memory serves, after the Napoleonic Wars broke out (again) in 1803 after the peace of Amiens collapsed, the British took Delhi again.

@PrivateHudson: I think you're right.
I thought Delhi was out due the first LouLong's answer... ;)

@PrivateHudson: I think you're right.
I thought Delhi was out due the first LouLong's answer... ;)

no, just i picked the wrong war

Private hudson got it.
Fir us French, the pearl of the British EMpire was India. And Dehli was indeed captured in 1803 so during the Napoleonic wars. Funny England used wars against France to limit is power to actually develop so much (North America, India,...).

Next question :
The Ku Klux Klan disappeared officially during the XIXth century. But it reappeared in the early XXth. When ? Who were its five targets ?

1915 - can't answer the second part as I'm not sure what you mean by "who" - individuals or the groups that were the target of the Klan's hate campaign?

I mean the 5 main target groups.
1915 is good.

OK, I shall try to answer this, from guesswork, knowing the rough ideology of that "organization."

Jews. Catholics. Blacks. Homosexuals.

So far that list reads pretty much like any neo-Nazi hate list. I can't really figure out what a fifth would be.

Democrats? This may sound silly, but the second incarnation of the Klan was hard-line Republican, as opposed to its own 19th century Democrat incarnation...

I mean the 5 main target groups.
1915 is good.

Or more specifically, the film "Birth of a Nation". Ironic given
DW Griffith made many films that were anti racist and anti intolerance.

I think the targets were :

1. Blacks.
2. Catholics
3. Immigrants
4. Communists/Anarchists.
5. Chinese (?)

-Coloured (non-white) People
-Jews
-Homosexuals
-Communists (or Anarchist)
-(and probably but not sure for this one)Catholics

???

Sorry for the delay (was away).

So, restarted in 1915, the KKK reached a peak of roughly 5 million members mostly in the South and MiddleWest (rural areas) in 1924-26. They focused heavily on (or against) "Negroes" (obvious), Jews, Catholics, intellectuals and the last one is linked to the time frame : opponents to prohibition.

Homosexuals could easily be a category but I am pretty sure they were either non-existent for KKK members or "represented" by other groups (Intellectuals would be my guess).

Next question :

Why did the Vietnamese invade "Kampuchea" in 1979 and expelled the "Khmers rouges" from power ?

The genocide there was becoming too much even for the Vietnamese? :p :D

Man, that was the only time and place in history when wearing glasses could get you killed. :eek:

Well, I am not sure it is very wise to wear glasses in a prison either. But maybe that's just rumors.

Sorry Dan, not quite true (unfortunately :-( ). Think geopolitics !

At the time, Vietnam (a Soviet client) was having difficulties with China (there
was a brief war somewhere), and Kampuchea was a Chinese client. Not to mention
IIRC the SU and China were quarelling around then, too.

Hmm I don´t know. But to the Soviet Chinese tensions I know a joke from this time. Perhaps the fun is killed because of translation but I try:
Nixon and Breshnev let them freeze in Cyrostase for 25 years. Then they wake up and they get a newspaper. Breshnew reads first. The he loughs at once when reading the line: The people owned car factories of Detroit overfulfilled their plan for the third time. The US are communistic!
Then Nixon demands the newspaper, reads and loughs, too. Breshnev now reads the 2nd page: Tensions growing! War expected. Again shootings at the German- Chinese border near Tilsit and Gleiwitz.
Germany is reunited but the whole Eastern block is under Chinese government!
I know the joke isn´t so good, but is very good to describe the Russian fear of the Chinese.

Adler

Serutan got it right.

Troubles with Communsim is it does not make nationalism melt completely. Therefore you have different "communists" geostrategies. USSR and China as two large countries were influential of many movements in foreign countries where they competed. The USSR won in Vietnam which eventually led to two small wars on the Chinese-Vietnamese border. The Vietnamese had had a long training and kicked Chinese butts. Then they invaded Cambodia (renamed Kampuchea by Red Khmers) to get rid of this China-supported government 4 years after the Red Khmers took power (with the known results of the "Killing fields").

Next question :
There was an Emperor in Germany before 1918. Could there be a king as well ?

Serutan got it right.
Next question :
There was an Emperor in Germany before 1918. Could there be a king as well ?

Yup. IIRC Wilhelm (I & II) were both Emporer and King of Prussia.
At one point in October 1918, Wilhelm II thought he might be able to
abdicate as Kaiser, but remain King of Prussia. Don't remember if, for
example, there was still a King of Bavaria or not...

All German states had their own head of state, mostly a monarch, like the king of Bavaria, Saxony, Prussia and Württemberg, some grandduchies like Baden and even republics like Hamburg, Lübeck and Bremen. Germany was (and is) a federal state. Even the military was a task of the states, only the navy was task of the Reich. So the German states had their own troops. In times of war however there was only one command (Oberste Heeresleitung, OHL, Koblenz).

Adler

Serutan got it right.

Troubles with Communsim is it does not make nationalism melt completely. Therefore you have different "communists" geostrategies. USSR and China as two large countries were influential of many movements in foreign countries where they competed. The USSR won in Vietnam which eventually led to two small wars on the Chinese-Vietnamese border. The Vietnamese had had a long training and kicked Chinese butts. Then they invaded Cambodia (renamed Kampuchea by Red Khmers) to get rid of this China-supported government 4 years after the Red Khmers took power (with the known results of the "Killing fields").[/B]
Aaagh! Damn RL, I missed my chance.

You should hear how the China-Vietnam war is "described" here. I really enjoy pointing out all the logical flaws in the locals' claim that "China punished Vietnam a bit, pushing within 30 clicks of Hanoi, but decided the Vietnamese have learned their lesson and withdrew, partly also because of the internal power struggle then between Deng and the Gang of 4." :rolleyes:

Interesting to hear. But how does this forum isn´t banned by your censors? I do not want it, but I heard some foreign internet sites are restricted in China. And how big are the tensions of the people on the Communistic party? I´m now a bit too off topic, and you must not answer if you have to fear any trouble.

Adler

Yes, there were kings as well, as some explained nicely. The most famous was probably the king of Bavaria who resigned and fled from Munich by fear of a revolution.

@ Dann : I know exactly how it is considered in China. That's one of the two topics I must avoid with my Chinese friends (and I have quite a few (tamen bu shao)) : 1/ is Tibet 2/ is wars against Vietnam. lol (for the propaganda, not for the wars).

Next question :
What post office became well-know for the uprising and violent breaking that took place there "during" WWI ?

@Adler17
Oh it's not as bad here as some imagine. They can't possibly censor every site there is in the whole wide cyber-world. Also, people here gripe about the government too, like anywhere else. But as long as everyone can live peacefully and make money, no one is complaining. Chinese are very easy to be made content. :D

@Loulong
Yeah. The locals are on the level with regards modern day politics, but some of the recent history they learned in school is definitely distorted to say the least. I agree with them in certain areas with regards the war with Japan, the civil war, Tibet, the war with India, and the Korean War. But definitely can't agree with their account of the war with Vietnam.

Reasking the question as it seems nobody saw it.

Next question :
What post office became well-know for the uprising and violent breaking that took place there "during" WWI ?

Well I saw it but I don´t know.

Adler

Likewise. I am utterly non-plussed!

:confused:

I know a fight between Polish post clerks and German soldiers on the Westerplatte of Danzig in 1939. But in ww1? :confused:

Adler

Hint : Ireland...

OHHH! There was something in May 1916 IIRC. But what??? The Irish "joined" Germany and Austria in the war and made an uprising (which is still incomplete).

Adler

The Easter Uprising. Would it have been dublin post office? Or Belfast?

The Easter Uprising. Would it have been dublin post office? Or Belfast?


damm! was watching michael collins on t.v., they attacked the customs office--bet thats it

Eastern 1916 rising focused and resisted longer in the General Post Office in Dublin (1 nowadays)... before being eventually crushed.

About links with Germany it is true there were contacts and some weapon shipments but overall the Irish did not succumb to German propaganda.

Next question :

What question did Pepin (Palace Mayor) ask the Pope Zacharie in 751 ?

You mean, the pope from Anther? Zacharie d'Anther?
Pépin had Childeric III emprisonned in a monastry , and was elected king in 751 by nobles and bishops, at Soissons, and then crowned by Saint Boniface in Mayence (Mainz).
Before, he asked Zacharie the authorization to get rid of Childéric, and end the merovingian dynastie. It was accepted by the pope.
Side note : Pépin became Palace Mayor in 747, after his brother Carloman deicded to become a monk

Maybe a bit more precise ;) :
Pépin III called the Pope Zacharia: who must be the king? The man that has the formal title of king, or the man that has the real, effective POWER of king in his own hands?
Nice question, perhaps just a bit one-way... ;)

Maybe a bit more precise ;) :
Pépin III called the Pope Zacharia:... ;)

Did he use his cell phone? Must be expensive to call from France to Rome ;)

Steph: :lol: right... Pépin asked ;)
But phone from France to Roma wasn't so expensive... using St.Boniface-fastline :lol:

Gagliaudo had the proper answer. The question was who deserves to be the king, the one who has the power or the one who has the title.

Next question :

In exchange for his coronation on the 25th of December 800, Carlus Magnus was to garantee something the Pope wanted. What was it ?

Mmh... I've two things in mind...
1) The Pope, Leo III, atm had been accused by enemies: Charlemagne, after the Pope sweared solemnly his own innocence at a sinod in St.Peter cathedral (not the actual ;) ), granted him no trial had had place against the Pope (as the sinod had decided).
2) The autonomy of "Patrimonium Sancti Petri" (the base of the future Papal State) and the protection from the Byzantine influences (the Lombards' threats had been already erased...).
However we can't forget the question about the Charlemagne coronation (he wanted it, he didn't want it...) ;)

Actually I had n° 2 in mind.

The Pope was granted officially a lord power over the Rome and confirmed by Carlus Magnus of the previous "exarchat of Ravenna" along the Adriatic, the two parts making the Papal state.

Next question :
A state of Byzantine culture and tradition survived in Anatolia after the Ottomans catpured Constantinople. Which one ?

Lebanon?

Adler

Nope ! In Anatolia (modern Turkey) !

trebizond held out a little longer

Trebizond it is. Held for 8 more years 1461 !

Next question :
What treaty normalized relationships between a loser of WWI and the most isolated country following WWI ? What were these countries ? And when was the treaty signed ?

It was the treaty of Rapllo between the German Reich and the USSR in 1922. Germany and the USSR were both isolated (bad British and French diplomacy) and both wanted to regain their power. Germany had the knowhow, Russia the abilities. So the Germans used Russian installations to train with planes and tanks etc. while teaching the Russians to use these weapons. Several hundred pilots and other specialists were trained in Russia until ~ 1935. There were also German planes based.

Adler

P.S.: Didn´t you mean 1461?

Good answer.
When you cannot get normality with winners, get normality between yourselves !

Right about 1461, edited it !

Next question :
What was the target (precise area) of the 4th crusade before being diverted to Constaninople ?

Egypt, to attack the base of Muslim attacks on the Crusader States.

Yes, Egypt, I come in web only now... :lol:
I could add that the main objective was Damiyat/Damietta, and that it was taken only in 1217 (13 years after... and lost after few months... :( ).

North King (and therefore Galiaudo) is right. Egypt was the main target.
The unification of Egypt and Syria under Saladin gave the Musilms a great strength, mostly derived from the wealth and population of Egypt. It thus became the new objective (discarded in favor of the wealth of Byzantium).

Next question :

In 1664, Colbert founded the French company of Eastern Indies. What effect did that have in the Indian ocean (possessions, colonization) ?

Expanded French holdings over the Maldives, a part of India...?

Creation of harbour in ïle Bourbon and Ile-De-France (will became Reunion and Mauritius), failed attempt at Madagascar, then udner Dupleix (starting in 1741) agressive policy against England, and expansion in India (at a time, the French company generated as much sales as the English one). In 1763, treaty Paris, France lost most of its colonial empire, including Deccan territory in India, and kept only 5 trading post (Pondichéry, Mahé, Chandernagor, Yanaon, Karikal). It remained French until 1949.

And the most important effect : the famous 4-sans-cul of Chambéry came indirectly from it.

4-sans-cul = famous fountain in the city of Chambéry in Savoy, made of 4 statues of Elephants, but only the front half of the Elephant is showing.
4-sans-cul = The four without an ass.

Mmmh... foundation of colonies in Chandernagore and Pondichéry (and maybe Seychelles too...) ???

Ehmm, I just realized Steph posted a little before me (exactly while i was writing!)... :lol: I'd train better my fingers, they're not so speed... ;)
However Steph has been very veeery more precise :goodjob: , no doubt!

Actually Steph got closest with the (modern) Reunion and Mauritius islands.
And there was a fort Dauphin in Madagascar.
All these forts/harbors were needed to protect the trade route.


Next question :
How come the Dutch and English conquered many if not most (except Brazil of course) Portuguese colonies at the end of the XVIth/beginning of the XVIIth century ?

that would of been the time of the" spainish captivity" 1580-1640 and england and holland were at war with spain-and in directly portugal

Sorry, forgot about the quii for a while. Bt pawpaw is right.

Indeed Portugal lost its king in 1578 who died with most Portuguese noblemen in the (probably) latest crusade in Morrocco.
Portugal was then incorporated into Spain until 1640 and since Philippe II and III of Spain were fighting against the Dutch and English, these ones captured the lightly defended Portuguese colonies, ruining large parts of its economy.

Next question:
What movie shows the end of the Sicilian ancien regime faced with (and defeated by) the Italian nationalism ?

IL GATTOPARDO !!! (directed by Luchino Visconti) The movie was inspired by the omonimous book, by Tomasi di Lampedusa.

You got the tiltle wrong, it's "Le Guépard" ;)

Gagliaudo answered correctly, naturalmente.
Very nice movie full of "red shirts" and noblemen.

Next question :
What was the Jubilee operation ? When, where, who and how did it fare ?

@Steph: :p :lol:
@Loulong: yes, noblemen, red shirts and... only for his fans (if there's any of them in this forum/thread) - a young Terence Hill !!! (hope nobody will ask who is he...)

Btw, IIRC "Jubilee" was the attempt of Allies to desembark at Dieppe in 1942(I was quite sure it was something related to France, if not Dieppe, Toulon or sometihng like this :lol: ): it was quite a disaster, most of commandos (Canadians) were killed or captured. But this teached Allies how DON'T make a succesful amphibious operation... so it was a sort of test for D-Day!

@Steph: :p :lol:
@Loulong: yes, noblemen, red shirts and... only for his fans (if there's any of them in this forum/thread) - a young Terence Hill !!! (hope nobody will ask who is he...)

Terence Hill? He's Nobody

@Steph: exactly, "mon ami", but not only Nobody, also... Somebody else :lol: :lol: :lol: (I mean western 'Trinity' etc.etc. ;) )

Terence Hill? He's Nobody

"who's faster--nobody"

Gagliaudo is right once again. Mostly Canadians for one of the worst operations. Suicide or needed testing ?

Anyway, next question :
What position (title) held what was to become the Venitian Doge later on and for what country did he use that title ?

Only a fast guess: PATRIARCH ; EAST ROMAN (BYZANTINE) EMPIRE.
Bye

PATRIARCH ; EAST ROMAN (BYZANTINE) EMPIRE.


or dux;east rome

@Pawpaw: atm I realize probably YOU're right: I just recall maybe he was called "dux Veneticorum"... :goodjob:

Dux and Doge are cognates, so wouldn't they be the same title?
Doge Enrico Dandolo became ruler of 3/16 of the Byzantine Empire, did he not? I forget the exact amount...

Ah. I did some research, (is that cheating? I already had an inkling - I just forgot the details) and found this:
The fall of Constantinople to the Fourth Crusade in 1204 was largely engineered by the Doge Enrico Dandolo, who was actually buried in Sancta Sophia. By the settlement with the Crusaders, Venice was ceded 3/8 of the Empire, and the Doge henceforth styled himself quartae partis et dimidiae totius imperii Romaniae Dominator ("Lord of a quarter and a half [of a quarter] of the whole Empire of Romania"). Norwich interestingly translates this as "Lord of ... the Roman Empire" (p.147), but the phrase was imperium Romaniae, "Empire of Romania," not imperium Romanum, "Roman Empire." Venice was obviously not claiming 3/8 of the Empire of Trajan, but of the much reduced mediaeval Romania
So my answer is quartae partis et dimidiae totius imperii Romaniae Dominator.

Pawpaw got the precise answer (as legitimated by Adso : siliar cognates).
Indeed the Doge used to be a Byzantine dux who progressively conquered his independance.

Next question :
What event caused most of the Hellenistic princes and cities as well to give money or resources to Rhodes during the Hellenistic period ?

Rhodos could have beeen a precious and mighty ally for naval struggles between various Hellenistic power, Rodians were important in the power-balance atm.
Maybe they made a little piracy in Aegean and East Mediterranean Seas, too :evil: so, better to pay them then to have them enemies :groucho:

Wasn´t this because of the building of the famous Colossus?

Adler

@Adler17: you could be right, 'cause effectively Colossus was useful for everyone's ship. Even if however it was useful mostly for Rhodians :D

Next question :
What event caused most of the Hellenistic princes and cities as well to give money or resources to Rhodes during the Hellenistic period ?

the earthquake that destroyed (badly damaged ) the colossus of rhodes

+ on rhodes there was the biggest holy site of Asclepeios, the greek god of medecine. :)

and this leads automatically to the fact that many 'nobles' went there to be cured... :)

mfG mitsho

Pawpaw made it again.

Indeed it is partly linked to the Colossus that was damaged as most of the city during an earthquake.
Since Rhodes proved a useful small "neutral" state and that it was a way for the Hellenistic kings of showing their evergetism, most contributed to the rebuilding/redecoration of the city.

Gagliaudo you are completely wrong about piracy. Rhodes as an important trading place fought a lot against piracy (mostly Cretans and Cilicians then) and had a powerful fleet to protect and clean the Eastern Med. It is when Rome decided to put down its former ally that piracy appeared again.

IIRC Asclepios is coming from Chios or a island nearby which is much more to the North.

Next question :
What weapon caused tensions between France and ENgland in 1982 and why ?

Maybe they made a little piracy in Aegean and East Mediterranean Seas, too :evil: so, better to pay them then to have them enemies :groucho:


Gagliaudo you are completely wrong about piracy. Rhodes as an important trading place fought a lot against piracy (mostly Cretans and Cilicians then) and had a powerful fleet to protect and clean the Eastern Med. It is when Rome decided to put down its former ally that piracy appeared again.


I mean that who has sea power (quite in monopolistic way) can use a kind of piracy (I wrote 'little') to dissuade eventual rivals. Of course, an 'unofficial' piracy ;) or maybe piracy actions (by 'official' rhodian fleets). That's all.
I completely wrong my answer, no doubt :D

This was the delivery of French Exocet AM 39 missiles to Argentina who used them very well against British warships, causing the loss of several warships. Thatcher was not amused... ;)

Adler

This was the delivery of French Exocet AM 39 missiles to Argentina who used them very well against British warships, causing the loss of several warships. Thatcher was not amused... ;)

Adler

Very good answer, except I would say "not amused" is an understatement :p

Next question :
The Jesuits had to obey to 4 vows. Which ones ? Are they standard or "new" ?

Well she was as amused as when she heart about the German reunification. Kohl once said about the talk that she was not very amused, to understate this! I think she was a quite dragon.

Adler

Next question :
The Jesuits had to obey to 4 vows. Which ones ? Are they standard or "new" ?

they had to take the same 3 vows as priest plus a special one to obey the pope and do his bidding

Indeed the three traditional vows : obedience, poverty, chastity and the fourth special one obey to the Pope as a corpse (the Jesuits were definitely infeodated to the Pope).

Next question :

What was the name of the "barbarians" putting pressure on Egypt and Cyrenaica during the late Roman Empire ?

the Vandals?

No, the vandals were in 'Carthage', today's Tunisia and Algeria (etc.), not in Egypt. (Cyrenaica is more or less todays Lybia).

But I'm not sure what he means. The Moors (Mauri)? the Berbers? Or does he just mean the plain Arabs? Then of course, he could also mean the Sasanids. But who would call them barbarians (therefore he put this term in " "?).

But I have no definite answer, sorry :)

mitsho

Next question :

What was the name of the "barbarians" putting pressure on Egypt and Cyrenaica during the late Roman Empire ?

i know emperor diocletian campaigned in eygpt against desert tribes--<brain lock> i think their name started with a d.

Blemmi ???
More south-east there were Troglodites, too, but I think BLEMMI.
IIRC, there is some thread about them in history articles section :D

Blemmi they were !

Vandals came later and built a kingdom in Western Northern Africa (mostly Tunisia). Mauri and berbers were there too. Arabs were on the other side of Egypt.

Next question :
What "invention" (actually it is a warfare technic) enabled the Mauri to be more dangerous at about the same time ?

mmh... "burned land" ??? (sorry for my english, but I think you can understand)
Maybe it's for that "invention" that N-W Africa ended to be one of the "Empire granaries"... :(

I think you mean the english term Scorched Earth my Italian friend :)

:lol: yes, you're right ... I translate italian/english literally :lol:
Finally it was easy to understand... :D

Wrong direction at the moment. lol
Think animal-based warfare.

Wrong direction at the moment. lol
Think animal-based warfare.
Were they the first to use camels?? It's not the stirrup. It was brought by Avars circa 600

I misread the name at first and thought it was the natives of New Zealand... I was thinking of sheep cavalry for a deranged moment :lol:

Were they using plagued cadavers?

Adler

Steph got closest. They were not the first to use camels worldwide but camels were imported at that time into Northern Africa so it was a change of warfare which enabled Mauri (not Maori lol) to speed up their attack and run tactics.

Next question :
What country was the first to "embrace" communism out of the USSR ? Why ?

That manic moment has passed now, fortunately :D The visions of some guy trying to stay balanced on a small wooly animal whilst holding a lance and shield disturbed me immensely :lol:

Germany in 1918.

With the end of WW1, social-democrats and communists were fighting in Germany. Social-democrats were fighting for a democratic republic while the communists had a "people's republic" in mind.
After the social-democrats joined forces with central and right-wing-forces, the communist revolution was defeated in early 1919.

It is Mongolia in 1924. Mongolia was part of China until 1911 when China became republic. In the following years the situation became very confused but Mongolia became a close ally to Russia. So after fightings against China they finally declared independence in 1921. To fight against feudal structures the Mongolists decided to become a People´s republic.
The communistic revolts in Germany were put down by right wing to democratic forces. The commies had never the power to get the government. So Germany is not correct.

Adler

P.S.: Your tactic with sheep riding warriors might be effective when the enemy is loughing to death :lol:

:lol: Be careful, if the MOD find out, the British army will be forced to adopt it as it's more cost effective :D

I think our MOD, Struck, would bind everyone for a gun proposing that near to our minister of penouriousness, Eichel.

Adler

*has no idea what Adler is talking about* :confused:

Our MOD Struck is angy about our minister of finance Hans Eichel, who is not known for spending much money. ;)

Adler

Adler is right. It is Mongolia.

After 1911, a part of Mongolia called outer Mongolia was under Russian influence. After the revolution, for political reasons and with the help of the Red Army (lots of fighting in that area), it became a communist state.

Next question :
Two countries and regimes reamined famous in history for the burning of books. Which ones ? And why ? Edit : one of them influenced a novelist ; which one and in what book ?

One of them is Germany. The regime is the Nazi regime.
Why: They burnt books of people who wrote "un-german" stuff that didn't go with the race-laws of '35 and the future war plans (e.g. they burnt "Im Westen nichts Neues", an anti-war-novel from a soldier in WW1).

The other: No idea.

The book you're referring to is "Fahrenheit 451" which is the temperature where paper ignites. Novelist: Don't know the name.

Vilati, this was in 1933, when books by Remarque, Tucholski and others were burnt. Also in 1817 students burnt reactionary books at the Wartburg festival. Also the first Chinese Emperor Chin Shi Huang- Ti burnt the philosopher´s books which were not conform with the state´s philosophy. But there were more burnings:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%FCcherverbrennung

Adler

Adler17, was that only 1933? I think there were more burnings (although the big one was in 1933)...

stupid question, sorry, but nearly every regime burnt books, and yes, the nazis did too, but are they famous for this? they are more famous for burning people. :(

And I cannot think of two regimes are more famous for this. And the only reason the nazis could be known for this is that it's not a long time ago, and a book was written of it?

(this shouldn't be bashing, k?) mitsho

The book you're referring to is "Fahrenheit 451" which is the temperature where paper ignites. Novelist: Don't know the name.



The novelist is Ray Bradburn. Pretty crappy book by the way. :lol:

Would the other one be the Chin Dynasty of China? The first emperor ordered Confucius' books burned and buried many of his followers. The later Confucian historians and gov officals didn't exactly have many kind words towards him. :rolleyes:

The book you're referring to is "Fahrenheit 451" which is the temperature where paper ignites. Novelist: Don't know the name.



The novelist is Ray Bradburn. Pretty crappy book by the way. :lol:

Sorry, have to correct you: his name is Ray Bradbury, one of the best Science Fiction authors - and this is the absolutely first time I've heard his book described as 'crappy'! :rolleyes:

Sorry for the long delay.

Indeed the book is Fahrenheit 451 and I agree with Dragonlord I don't find it crappy at all.
The two major events of burning books were, as well as in the novel, related to totalitarian governments : the Nazis' and the early Chinese one (probably initiated by the legist Lizi). Others existed but none others were that large and thorough.

Next question :
Tocqueville, a French liberal noble, explored the new independant US and their governments. Albeit he liked it he noticed that democracy is not safe from danger in this very sentence that you need to complete : "The danger of democracy is the tyranny of ......".

... of the Majority.

If the answer is right, I wish to pass the next question to someone else, I am about to leave and just cannot think of a really good one.


edit:
sorry - I thought this Quiz would work like the WW2 Quiz, so just ignore the last sentence.

Yes, good answer.

Next question :
What is the specialty of the Escurial for the Spanish kings ?

Maybe... that it was built to celebrate the victory at Saint-Quentin in 1557 (spanish army leaded by Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia, the great one, not the actual ;) ); the Escorial has the shape of a grill, in honor of San Lorenzo (who died martir on a grill) 'cause the battle was in August 10, San Lorenzo's day... :D

It looks like I need to give a hint as the question was not so clear. It was the palace of the Spanish kings but it was meant to serve another prupose for them. WHich one ?

Ok I give it. It was to become their cemetary as well.

Next question :
Perseus was a king of which Hellenistic state ?

Perseus was a king of which Hellenistic state ?
Thebes?
(Guessing, 10 character limit.)

Next question :
Perseus was a king of which Hellenistic state ?

argos.....

Argos?(ten character limit)

already answered by pawpaw though

"hellenistic" state.

He gave Megapenthes Argos and got Tiryns instead.

Adler

Last king of Macedonia, son of Philippe V
defeated by roman Paul-Emile at Pydna (168)

Carniflex got it !

Next queston :
The firts Tokugawa shogun had an original advisor. Which one ?

William Adams, a English pilot who wrecked on Japanese shores aboard a Dutch ship.

I've just seen the documentary on Arte yesterday! :D

Shogun (James Clavell) ;).

Adler

Shogun (James Clavell) ;).

Adler

William Adams is an historical character. John Blackthorne is based upon him, and novelized by James Clavell.

Steph got it right. Missed the documentary myself but I must admit I am not that crazy about Arte's German documentaries. They are too much "re-creation" for my tastes.

Since you are both so good, try answering the PM-quizz !

Next question :
What feline goddess was worshipped in ancient Egypt ? In which city precisely ?

Isis, Thebes?

Bast; Bubastis.

Yes Companiero, albeit in my language we spell the goddess "Bastet".

Next question :
What is the hitorical explanation of the expression "the real Mc Coy ?

It is from the Prohibition era. There was a smuggler named
McCoy, who smuggled in (high quality) liquor from IIRC Bermuda
to the US. Because so much of the smuggled and homemade
booze at that time was diluted with water or worse, and McCoy
never did that, any unadulterated boozed came to be known as
"The Real McCoy".

What is the hitorical explanation of the expression "the real Mc Coy ?
McCoy was a black inventor who lived in Canada. He invented some sort of oil-distribution device for steam locomotives, which worked well. Thus, people asked for "the real McCoy".
(At least that's what I read somewhere...)

Trekkies who didn't like Berverly Crusher and wanted the real McCoy back? :)

;) The tries of paramount pictures to use another character as McCoy than DeForest Kelly?

Adler

P.S.: Steph I couldn't do this not as Trekkie. ;)

Serutan got it right. Of course it helps to be American in that case.

Did not expect so many answers. Guess "booze" attracts many people lol. Never heard
Adso's answer before. Wonder where you got that.

Next question :
Marie Tudor's pro-Spanish policy against France cause ENgland to lose a long-held harbour city generating lots of trade. What harbour-city ?

Next question :
Marie Tudor's pro-Spanish policy against France cause ENgland to lose a long-held harbour city generating lots of trade. What harbour-city ?
Calais. Is the Answer.
(I hope I get something right...for once)

Never heard
Adso's answer before. Wonder where you got that.
I'm not crazy:
Where did the expression "the real McCoy" come from? There are many legends surrounding the origin of this phrase, one of which revolves around Elijah McCoy, a successful African-American inventor. In his lifetime, McCoy patented over fifty inventions, none of which was more famous than his automatic oil cup, which eventually became standard equipment on most locomotives and heavy machinery. There were many imitations of McCoy's oil cup, but engineers knew that the model based on McCoy's design was the best of its kind. Hence, they asked for "the real McCoy".
Linky. (http://www.princeton.edu/~mcbrown/display/mccoy.html)

Calais is right. Adso is right, can you believe it ? ;)

Next question.
When were Jews "emancipated" in Italy and in Germany ?

1870 for italy,for germany 1871

Yep but care to elaborate (the idea of this thread was to learn as much as to test oneself).

Given the dates & countries, I'd say it was something done in the warm afterglow
of unification; sort of a "see, look how good we are" type of thing...

LouLong, why did you stop this thread?

Adler

Because I got a bit tired, ran out of easy questions and got too busy with PBEMs and finishing my scenarios.

Maybe I will come back to it one day. But you can continue it if you want or start a similar one.

Ok, then I'll try to ask some questions...

Hm...

Who was the first crusader king of Jerusalem? Why was HE the first king?

It was Gottfried von Bouillon (I don´t know his French name). He became king because he was the one who was able to break through the walls.

Adler

P.S.: Steph, please ask Delph if we should restart the Stargate quiz.

Adler, I'm sure Delph would be pleased to restart the Stargate quizz.

And you give the wrong answer to my question. In fact, you fell in my trap :D

Actually I think it is a Norman (Bohemond ?) but because of Italian help (and these were usually against Sicilian Normans) the crown went to the Bouillon family. :-)

Steph, can you ask yourself if I can get these extra units from Cossacks as my scenario is very very near completion... ;-)

After you asked yourself if you sent me the missing files for the Dutch musketeer.

Bohemond it is not

Tancred was supposed to be king. But he failed and so Gottfried became king. So he was crowned (and this I thought would be the real time point...).

Adler

Geoffrey de Bouillon (French), Gofdrey of Bouillon (English), Gottfried von Bouillon (German) has indeed a very important role in this question.
But he was not the first king.

hi LouLong, don't mind if I join your quizz?

I'm not sur if Googling is authorized in this thread, but anyway that's what I've found.

Godfrey of Bouillon was indeed the first crusader king of Jerusalem (he is recognized by the church as a king), but he has never admitted this fact. He said that there could be only one king in the Holy City and it is Jesus Christ. So he refused to wear a crown and to use the title of king.

Therefore it is his brother and successor Baldwin of Bouillon that is the first official king of Jerusalem.

Good answer. Godfrey refused to wear a crown where Jesus wore a crow a sword. It took the title "avoué du St Sepulcre" (defender of the Saint Sepulchre") in 1099. At his death in 1100, his brother Baudoin (Baldwin), who wasn't so scrupulous, became the first king ot Jerusalem.

Normally, you are not supposed to google to find the answer. However, this thread is more an open history lesson than a contest. So what I did generally is use my own knowledge to find the answer, and then look for details in my sources to get the date, details and spelling OK.

New question. Although it's not proven and could be half legendary, something funny happened to a Dutch fleet during the Napoleonic wars. What was it?

C´était Balduin de Boulogne. Le royaume de Jerusalem était fondeé après la morte de Geoffrey en 1100.
It was Baldouin de Boulogne, who was crowned to king when Gottfried died in 1100. I have another question: Who was the last crusader who successfully took Jerusalem and how big were his losses?

Adler

Okay the fleet was frozen in the Ijssel sea and so taken by cavalry!

Adler

Frederick II, in 1228, during the first crusade not initiated by the Pope. His losses were quite low... he negociated restituation of Jerusalem with the Ayyubid ruler of the area.

Exactly! So I think you should turn over to ask and so it should be until you loose fun.

Adler

P.S.: I answered already so askt the next question.

Some precision about the fleet.
Wintern 1794-1795 was very harsh, a significant part of the Dutch fleet was icebound near the village of Den Helder.
It was defeated and captured by... French cavalry (hussar).

However, it's not very clear. The French hussars claimed they charge on the iced see. But hussars are known for boasting (and French hussars to boast twice or thrice as much as others!).
Some other historians believed the Dutch simply agreed to surrender, as ground resistance against the French army led by Pichegru had already crumbled. The hussars did cross the ice the 23rd of January 1795., but it was a small escort of an officer who settle an agreement to wait for clearer order without trying to sail, and later the Dutch surrender. But it wasn't a charge by the full regiment!

Anyway, I find this story quite fun.

Next question. What was the first French continental department (for whose who don't know, a department is an adminstrative area in France, there are 100 of them), to free itself froms axis occupation (without allied troops) and when?

Steph, this question seems to be too difficult to know. Only French could know it. I suggest ask an easier question.

Adler

nobody seems to try an answer, so I'll do

I know that Corsica was the first French liberated territory, but it is not continental and it was liberated but Americans/English.
one could say that Paris was liberated by it-self (even if it isn't very clear) so perhaps it is the department 75 ?

Coming from you, this answer would be too easy so I presume I'm wrong.

I will give the answer then. It was Haute-Savoie, in august 1944.

It wasn't so difficult because of the important Glieres event.

Their was a very active resistance activity against the occupant, with former chasseurs alpins as a backbone. Finally, the partisans (450 of them) organized a maquis at the Glieres plateau, where they could received allied air dropped supplies. They were finally encircle by more than 4000 German and Vichy France troops, with artillery and aviation support, and after two weeks of fighting had to withdraw, with 150 casualties (a lot were prisonners shot afterward).
This gave a good example to other partisans, this episode was used by both side in the pyschological warfare, and when the allied landed in Normandy, there were about 200 000 men in the Interior French Forces (FFI), that sabotage German supplied end enabled the allied to advance faster than expected.
Then, Haute Savoie, the Northern department of Savoy, was the first to free itself from Axis occupation.

Then, two questions.

One is a bit difficult, and more for fun.

Napoleon's Marshalls were often arrogant, not always very bright, and were also jealous of each other, going as far as not helping each other in some cases.
However, there's a quality they all add in great quantity : courage, to the point of boldness.

So... Murat was used to launch charge with a "funny" sentence, what was it?

Now, an other question. It shoud be an easy one as I already gave answer to it some time ago.

France and USA both had their Vietnam wars, although in France we call ours "Guerre d'Indochine". But how many casualties the USA had compared to France (I'm waiting for a ratio here, something like 10 to 1, and no, 10 to 1 is not the correct answer).

For indochina USA:France -> 1:3?

it's relatvely close

Well I guess we best have the answers Steph... btw could I ask a question? :D

France : 87,000, a good part being prisonners who never returned. USA : 57,000.

So it's 1.5 more French than Americans.

For the first question, Murat often said "Messieurs, en selle, direction: mes fesses". In English, it could be translated as "Sirs, up your saddle, toward : my ass". And then he charged in front :crazyeye:

Seems he was as mad as his clothing style :lol:

Well anyway here's my question, you don't have to accept it, but nevermind...

A German gentleman called Strassman was planning for an air raid on New York. What's so unusual about this, and what stopped it from happening?

Edit: If no answer is forthcoming by tomorrow evening I'll give it :)

Ok the answer:

Strassman worked in Zepplin designs, and in 1918 he was planning to build one that could fly some 7,500 miles and in theory raid New York. He died in an accident related to one of the other airships before ever finishing the design.

I supposed it was a Zeppelin, but wasn´t able to get former infos. Okay here is a new question, a more difficulty one:

The German emperor title Kaiser and the Russian Czar have a certain word as origin. This Latin word is indeed also from a foreign language aquired. So what is this word (easy) and what meaning does this word have in the language it comes from (very difficult)? Also I want to hear the name of the language. A hint: it is the designation of an animal.

Adler

The answer to the easy question is Caesar. It comes from the well known general (and then emperor) Julius Gaius Caesar. Later in 2nd century Caesar was almost synonym to Emperor, that's explain why Germans and Russians use this word.

For the difficult part, I have no idea. Caesar was his first name and that's all I know.

@adler17 Do you read P.M.? In this month edition (of the history journal), this is written somewhere in the text.

But nevertheless, Caesar comes from Carthaginian where it means 'Elephant'. This comes from the fact that one ancestor of Caesar killed a Carthaginian War Elephant and therefore ornated himself and his family with this addition.

mfG mitsho

Yes, I do. I hoped that not a German speaking is here knowing the answer but you´re totally right mitsho. I think it is over to you.

Adler

I'm sorry, didn't intend to exist :)

So, what could I ask as a question? hmm, let's try it with a (I suppose difficult) one about 'Swiss History'.

Some centuries ago, there existed many many small 'states' on the ground of today Switzerland (as in whole Europe). One of these was the 'Fürstbistum Basel' which translates into english as the Bishop-principality. I hope I took the wright word, it should mean a state where the bishop rules. He had his residence, logically in the city of Basle. But - what a pity - Luther, Calvin and Zwingli came, and Basle became a reformed city: The bishop had to flee. Where did he go to? Additional question: In which city is the residence of the bishop of Basle today?

(I'm searching for one city name, but there is also another option, although I doubt anyone will know this)

I hope this question isn't too difficult. mfG mitsho

So I'm gonna solve it. the question was too hard ;) I wanted to solve it earlier, but was away for a few days ...

The city is Porrentruy in the Jura. Today, the bishop of Basle lives in Solothurn.

Who wants to ask a question?

mfG mitsho

I make a new question:
How did the fortress of Liege (Lüttich/ Belgium) fall in 1914?

Adler

Okay, nobody seems to know that answer: It was General Ludendorff who was inspecting the battlefield came to the fortres of Liege when the city was attacked. He was alone and thought the fortress, which should be untakeable, was already captured. So he knocked with his sabre on the doors. Several Belgish soldiers opened the gate (an idioty in times of war, but...). For a moment all were perplex. Then the Belgish soldiers surrendered thinking such a high German officer would never come alone and do that. They assumed 10000 Germans near to him. So they surrendered the whole fortress to only one man armed with only a pistol and a sabre! Very polite opening the door.
Another question: Who inspired Wernher von Braun and was his teacher?

Adler

Great story this one ^ :). I'll think of an answer later....

I believe it was Olbureth (sp?), who IIRC in his turn got a fair bit from
Robert Goddard.

Serutan, I think you are meaning the guy, but the spelling is a bit too far from reality. Sorry, try again. (Tip: A Star Trek ship class is named after him)

Adler

The spelling *was* a bit off. It' really Oberth.

Indeed. It is over to you.

Adler

Staying on the subject, who was the (very) early 20th century
Russian rocketry pioneer?

Tsilkovskiy?
If not him then any of the 4:
Кондратюк, Победоносцев, Тихонравов, Глушко
(Kondratuk, Pobedonoszev, Tihonraavov, Glushko) - 1932?

Da, eto Tsilgovski.

Vasha Vopros


(Yes, it's Tsilkovskii. Your question).

Where are you from? :D
(and its "vash" as "vasha" is feminine/vopors - masculin)
Who was the commander who saved the Roman Republic in the 2nd Punic War and how did he do it?
Hints: He was a military commander for 6 months in the first years of the war. Hannibal thought he was the best Roman general that ever encountered him. And its not Scipio.

I'm guessing the answer you're looking for is Quintius Fabius Maximus Cunctator (the Delayer). He saved Rome [from yet another military catastrophe] by avoiding pitched battle, a fact that has produced the English term "Fabian Tactics". Fabius seems to have encountered lots of criticism at the time, but later historians tend to vindicate him.

Right on the spot! :D Your turn (was the question too obvious? :confused: )

Nope Gelion. It was fine. :)

Ok...here goes:

Which Roman emperor, who was known at the time as Antoninus, who son of another Emperor, murdered his brother to assume full control of the Empire? What was the name of his father, his mother and the brother he murdered?

CARACALLA ; Septimius Severus (imp) ; Iulia Domna ; Geta
Bye ;)
(btw, I renounce in any case, cause I don't know when I'll be able to back in the forum - problems with pc...)

Very good Gagliaudo. :goodjob:

I guess the floor is open then . . . .

Who were the 10,000 Greeks and what famous answer(s) did they give when they were asked to lay down their weapons?

ok, a easier one (I suppose):

What's so special about the flag of Switzerland (regarding all the other flags)?

mfG mitsho

Lol well its a square isn't it? Not a rectangle :).

correct, and sorry. It seems that we crossposted ;)
I think I know the answer to your question, but 1.) I have no time now and 2. im not sure :)

mfG mitsho

Again :)
Who were the 10,000 Greeks and what famous answer(s) did they give when they were asked to lay down their weapons?

Does it mean you give up?

Come and get them?

No...
If you do not answer untill the end of today I'll ask another question.

They were mercenaries who fought with one contender to the Persian throne against his brother.
Their would-be Emperor died in battle after a few victories so they had to go back (story told in Anabase by Xenophon).

Now I have read it but I am not quite sure what you mean by what they said.

They said once they had not been vanquished (which was true, only the contender had been killed) and would retreat under the protection of their undefeated weapons. Is that what you want ?

Yes! :)
Each archont gave 1 reply (6 in total) to the Emperors demand to give up weapons. They most famous was "if you are our friend we better have them to serve you, if you are not, we better have them to serve ourselves."

Over to you :)

So I take it this quiz is over :(
Oh well....

To hold this thread alive ask a new question Gelion.

Adler

Note that there's a new Cumulative General History quiz, which
is the same thing as this. That's where the activity is...

Okay, then it is over.

Adler