I am in a lot of SGs, and have made a lot in the C&C forum. My sig used to be under fives lines. Now it can be only 500 characters, or with the length of links at CFC, about one line (three or four links). Please increase this, I don't like not being able to have this in my signature :(.

Can't you create a more condensed sig?

Not with links. Here is the link to this post:

Longer sig length (]http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=1824925#post1824925)

About 95 characters. You can have five of those. I want links to me work, and SGs!

EDIT: Gr... You're not supposed to be able to have links in code!

Yeah, you can make it to size one. :)

BTW, I LOVE the new forum. I just need some time to get used to it. :D

Yeah, you can make it to size one. :)

BTW, I LOVE the new forum. I just need some time to get used to it. :D
Size one doesn't help. It just addds more characters. It's not about line length, it's about how many characters I can have.

Come on TF, why not make it longer?

EDIT (to avoid triple posting): I also don't like a ten character minimum for a message. Often you only need to say one country, or something like that for an reply.

Come on TF, why not make it longer?

EDIT (to avoid triple posting): I also don't like a ten character minimum for a message. Often you only need to say one country, or something like that for an reply.
well...it prevents most spam..

Okay, I guess the ten letter thing is okay, but I want my sig length back!

What if your current Sig length is longer then the 500 characters? If I try to change my Sig, will I not be allowed to, or . . . ?

What if your current Sig length is longer then the 500 characters? If I try to change my Sig, will I not be allowed to, or . . . ?
No. That's how I found out. I could have kept my old sig, but I wanted to remove something, and had to make it drastically shorter to do so.

So, as a protest, I'm making my sig the largest size possible (there is nothing against this in the rules).

That's annoying stupid, and is likely to get you banned, please discontinue

It is not disallowed in the rules. If all of the mods, and TF will ignore me, I'll legally get them to listen. I'm sorry if it gets in your way perf, but I beleive your sig is above the limit to, so you can't take out an exra space (which you don't have though), without making it drastically shorter.

You need to change it or get a 1 week ban. You are not allowed to use font size greater than 3 in sigs.

You guys really need to give me time to sort this things out. I am not a machine.

Your sig IS against the rules. See my post in some OT thread you posted in (forgot which one). :)

Edit: Eh, TF beat me to it.

Okay, but you may want to put that in the rules.

Also, take your time TF, I just want someone to at least notice this, as it seems nobody did.

PS. Ignore the PM I sent you, as it was before I read your post here.

@WillJ: Note my reply.

Gogf, it has not even been 24 hours since the forum opened. There are still a lot of things that obviously need to be done...

@WillJ: Note my reply.You're right, the actual rules don't mention anything besides five lines, and this should probably be edited when TF has the time. Just that what I said has been said by mods many times, and so is an official unwritten rule. :p

Yes I know, I know. Maybe I was being a little too impatient.

But anyway, TF, you should change the rules, as it does looks pretty bad to have sigs that size.

EDIT: Crosspost with WillJ: I have never heard them say that. Sorry.

It is implied in the forum rules:
Keep your signature brief.
This forum has a signature feature that allows you to "sign" your posts with a customized block of text. However, large signatures that take up more than 5 lines are not permitted. Everyone would agree that people are much more interested in reading your ideas than looking at your signature. It's annoying to see posts that have signatures that are much bigger than the messages in the post. Please keep your signature brief.
Your sig definitely didn't meet those bolded tests. Everyone knows that the more than 5 line rule is based on the standard forum text size. We allowed people to have 6 lines if they used size=1.

I also stated recently that I will delete any sig that I considered annoying without warning.

With vB 3.0, we can actually remove signature privilege from a poster permenantly, so think twice before putting up an annoying signature. ;)


EDIT: The limit is increased to 800 chars now. Should be enough for most people...

EDIT: Crosspost with WillJ: I have never heard them say that. Sorry.No problem (well, with me anyways).
EDIT: The limit is increased to 800 chars now. Should be enough for most people...Why have a character limit at all, though?

It is implied in the forum rules:

Your sig definitely didn't meet those bolded tests. Everyone knows that the more than 5 line rule is based on the standard forum text size. We allowed people to have 6 lines if they used size=1.

I also stated recently that I will delete any sig that I considered annoying without warning.

I didn't hear either of those (the first of which is positive). I think that was before I started to read Site Feedback. I'm really sorry TF :(.

EDIT: The limit is increased to 800 chars now. Should be enough for most people...

Thank you! I do agree with WillJ though, but no matter, 800 is fine, I think.

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Why have a character limit at all, though?I completely agree. For example, I know of one poster that has a link for every letter in a sentence...

Do the links have to be absolute? If you could pass relative paths like /showthread.php?p=1824925 in the URL tags, it could solve a lot of problems for a lot of people, and speed up load times as well.

Do the links have to be absolute? If you could pass relative paths like /showthread.php?p=1824925 in the URL tags, it could solve a lot of problems for a lot of people, and speed up load times as well.
Because it's php, I don't think this will work, but I'm not sure.

Geez, any set of rules must be general and imply many things. If it was specific, an abusive user could say "well it doesn't explicitely say that so I can do it anyway." The rules would be like 10 pages long, and people would still find loopholes. Just because it doesn't say that it doesn't mean it's now allowed.

No problem (well, with me anyways).
Why have a character limit at all, though?Because mods are getting sick of telling people to shorten their sigs, and even sicker when they're ignored, and sickest when they then have to wave to TF (the Boss) to handle this small matter.

Good on the disabled sig option for individuals. :evil:

Is it possible to make the Sig have a limit as to how many lines it can be, once you preview it (which I like, btw . . . )?

The 800 Characters thing seems silly, as I am sure that mine is far over 800 Characters, but making it 5-6 lines Max would do the trick . . . and is my Sig too long? My resolution is set high, I can't tell . . .

Yours is ok. Height-wise.

I am really confused now. I was told to reduce my sig, which was about seven or eight lines on small font.

Now I get nervous each time I have to update my sig while some people have sigs that are way longer...

Just don't make it over five lines again ;) :p.

@Goober: I like your idea, but I don't think that's possible.

Bah, I like the rule.
Those huge sigs are annoying.
;)

Because mods are getting sick of telling people to shorten their sigs, and even sicker when they're ignored, and sickest when they then have to wave to TF (the Boss) to handle this small matter.

Good on the disabled sig option for individuals. :evil:I wasn't aware sigs being too long is such a big problem. I think I've noticed less than 10 people with sigs too long during my time here, although maybe I'm just not observant enough.

I wasn't aware sigs being too long is such a big problem. I think I've noticed less than 10 people with sigs too long during my time here, although maybe I'm just not observant enough.That's 'cause we've been cracking down on them, as soon as we see them.

But we can't be everywhere to catch all of them. ;)

I am really confused now. I was told to reduce my sig, which was about seven or eight lines on small font.

Now I get nervous each time I have to update my sig while some people have sigs that are way longer...Just keep it within the said limits; don't use any wildly animated smilies and you'll be fine.

It's really quite simple. ;)

FYI, if you have lots of thread URLs in your sig, you may want to re-do your sig. vB 3.0 has alot shorter URLs. For example, instead of threadid= , now it's just t=.

What's with people and long sigs anyway?

FYI, if you have lots of thread URLs in your sig, you may want to re-do your sig. vB 3.0 has alot shorter URLs. For example, instead of threadid= , now it's just t=.
Good tip, for both writing inter-thread links in both posts and sigs :).

What's with people and long sigs anyway?
This is from the person who hasn't changed his sig since first arriving here? :p

Yours is ok. Height-wise.

Oh, and its not ok otherwise? (j/k)

@Goober: I like your idea, but I don't think that's possible.

Thanks. Well, you can just preview it. hat will do it the same, right? Now, what about your resolution? When you preview it with a larger resolution, will it look like 5 lines, but be more at a smaller resolution? How does that work? Does that make sense? Maybe, but at this time of the night, maybe not . . . I need more sleep . . .

What's with people and long sigs anyway?
It doesn't have to be long in length to be long in characters if you have links.

How about 500 characters, discouting VB code? Is that possible?

It doesn't have to be long in length to be long in characters if you have links.

How about 500 characters, discouting VB code? Is that possible?

Exactly, mine is probably way over, with all the HTML coding and the whatnot to create the codes, and stuff. I am not going to change it for awhile, until I really need to. Of course, since the Model Parliament is going to be moved, likely, my Sig shall shorten.

That is a good idea, discount the coding . . .

So, what's the status on this?
Almost all too long sigs I've seen has been filled with quotes and such. That is, the number of characters wasn't very big, just the visible output, which is what should be important from a mod point of view.

So, what's the status on this?
Almost all too long sigs I've seen has been filled with quotes and such. That is, the number of characters wasn't very big, just the visible output, which is what should be important from a mod point of view.

I totally agree here. I don’t see the purpose of limiting the signature length, unless it is to reduce the amount of web-space they take up.

My signature is a perfect example. It has 2689 characters when you include the URL linking, and bold and italic tags. But in reality, when you copy and paste just the visible part of the sig, it is only 227 characters long. I wanted to add to my signature, make the periods in-between the letters (in the last line) to link to pro-democratic sites, too.
But I’m afraid to edit it now, as it will disappear forever if I do. It takes time to collect the different links, to portray an image you want to be remembered for.

My signature also has 3 of its 4 lines reduced in size (simply reducing in size takes up 14 characters) even though it is strictly speaking, a total of 4 lines, it is only equivalent 3.5 using the smaller size.

I think we should go back to the old method, where there was no limit. Most posters had small sigs in line length cause they were mostly URL and Code. Mods could PM users whose Sigs were too long, instead of having many people to pay for a small amount of peoples faults.

Take a look at what some users in the demogame do. They put links to vital threads in their sigs, and sometimes, there's a lot of them. Same for the NES forum, C&C, and Succession Games.

I think we should count the actualy displayed characters. See the following sig: it's 790 chars, but mostly hyperlinks and I hardly see why it shouldn't be allowed more:

CT, I'm positive yours is over. Now, your sigs seems to be a reasonable length, so I think that it should be displayed characters.

Any answer from anyone who knows about VB3 as to whether it can measure visible characters?

I think it worked well as it was. You can probably add a lot of characters to five lines with small font. How many . can you fit in a line? ;)
Keep the five lines, and you (no specific you) should be ok. :)

Yeah I think thats sensible as people with long sigs can be reported and the present situation punishes more people as we cannot change our sigs since they are over the charactor limit...

i think those of you saying "the old way was good, those that go over can be punished by mods...." are missing the most important factor here. The mods are pretymuch making the decision, and you're trying to validate your point of view by saying the mods can always do more work. lol

i think a char limit makes sense, it maybe should be a bit bigger, not sure how well 800 works for people. making it so that it doesnt count the urls would definetly appease most of those complaining. in that case the char count could probably be brought even lower then 500.
i hate large sigs, especialy on small posts. *tries to remember the size of his own, lol*

The thing is tha it seems to be unfair to punish the majority of posters who follow the sig length rule and may want to use or have a sig that is over the character limit just because there are one or two posters who don't...

It isn't just one or two. Try ten. Every week.

The issue is still under discussion - I'm sure TF will make his decision... eventually.

Ok if its that many would it be possible to tie the sig length to post count? People with less than 50 posts are unlikely to be involved in a huge number of succession games for example. Also it would be hoped that people with other a particular number of posts will have a greater grasp of the rules on sig length.

I've seen posters with 1000s of posts, and still breaking the simple rule...

Like I said, the issue is still under discussion - pls wait awhile.

I doubt that it is possible.

Ok I will wait quitely then, its not as if I'm planning on changing my sig anytime soon... :)

Hmm, I have been getting all kinds of PMs from Mods, is mine over the 5 line length? I see it as being 1 line at the regular size, and 3 at the Size 1.

Is it over? I do not think so . . .

I see 9 lines. :p

Hmm, I have been getting all kinds of PMs from Mods, is mine over the 5 line length? I see it as being 1 line at the regular size, and 3 at the Size 1.

Is it over? I do not think so . . .

Was this after you fixed it?

^ What?!?!?!

Bah humbug, what is going on with this thing? I see 4 lines, yes, my resolution is set higher, but when I change it back to 1000 X 700, or whatever taht is, I still see 4 lines!!!

This is annoying me because it is annoying Mods. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Might I suggest that you get rid of half your sug ;)

Ok, ok, I got rid of the unimportant crap, how is this?

I am going to fix this, otherwise some Mod will just delete my Sig, which will be annoying . . .

I see it as 3 lines, so it's fine. Actually, before you dd your last little tweak it looked fine to me as well. ;)

I see it as 3 lines, so it's fine. Actually, before you dd your last little tweak it looked fine to me as well.

Ok, now I am getting really, really confused, but since my laziness is overtaking me, I shall just leave it like this.

Why did I get PMs from other Mods saying it was too long? You Mods are confusing me!!!

I am going to fix this, otherwise some Mod will just delete my Sig, which will be annoying . . .

They could acutally get into your account and do that?

Ok, now I am getting really, really confused, but since my laziness is overtaking me, I shall just leave it like this.

Why did I get PMs from other Mods saying it was too long? You Mods are confusing me!!!


If you want to go over this more send me a PM.

They could acutally get into your account and do that?

I know TF can. But I don't know about the mods. :hmm:

Mod's can't do it.

Just out of curiosity. What standard did the CFC staff set for the 5 line limit sig? Is it done when the entire internet window is expanded?

I think it is when the browser window is full screen and the resolution is 1024x800. (or something like that)

Mod's can't do it.Don't be so sure... :mischief:

Just out of curiosity. What standard did the CFC staff set for the 5 line limit sig? Is it done when the entire internet window is expanded?Mine is set at full-screen; at 1024x768 resolution.

Don't be so sure... :mischief:
I bet you a super-mod is able to change a sig at least, if not a regular moderator.

Another point, I'm sure it must still be possible to break the sig length rule as all you have to do is post 6 words on six different lines.

I will remove the signatue length limit. Just remember though, if your signature violates the signature rules or we find it very annoying, it may be deleted with or w/o warning.

All moderators have the ability to edit signatures (and avatars). :)

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Yes! Thank you Thunderfall, it's very much appreciated :).

(Edit- 2000 is better than before, I guess its time to say goodbye to Midnight Oil and Bob Seger ;) )

Oops, just realize that I can't disable the max signature length feature. I have to put a number in that field. I put 2000. So if your sig uses more than 2000 chars, you still need to shorten it a bit. :)

Considering the character limit per post is 15000, 2000 chars in sig is about the best I can do. 2000 is 4x the default 500 char limit.

thanks thunder. 2000 will do it for me even with the hyperlinks. ;)

Thanks TF, that is much, much better . . .

Just to clarify, your Sig must be 5 lines or under at 1024 x 768 Resolution? Or 6 linesa at Size 1?

5 normal lines or 7 lines of size=1 text all at 1024 x 768.

THat would be correct Goober ;)

5 normal lines or 7 lines of size=1 text all at 1024 x 768.


I thought it was 6 lines at size 1? :confused:

No, TF said 7.

Is it 2 or 3 lines at size 3?

Ankka - I would go with two, myself. Unless you're feeling particularly daring....;)

And earlier in this thread TF said 6 lines @ size 1, however I remember him saying 7 lines once upon a time....

Hmm, I never recall him saying that.... :confused:

Perhaps you just missed it...

I go through every thread in this forum. I don't see how I could miss it. :p

Perhaps your memory just has had a flaw in it just in the spot where that info would be. :p

Hmm, I never recall him saying that.... :confused:He might have said it in Staff... :p

Which would explain where Turner read it...

Which would also explain where Marine didn't read it...

So what did TF actually say?

He said that at size 1 there can be 7 lines in the sig instead of 6.

Which would also explain where Marine didn't read it...

Yes as I tend to notice any posts by TF in site feedback.....

I will remove the signatue length limit. Just remember though, if your signature violates the signature rules or we find it very annoying, it may be deleted with or w/o warning.

All moderators have the ability to edit signatures (and avatars). :)

Thank you TF :)!

As you can see, I haven't been checking this thread for a while ;).

He might have said it in Staff... :p

It would also explain why I couldn't find the post in SF...

It would also explain why I couldn't find the post in SF...

Yet remember you still read it there...

Well, remember reading it, at least.

For all I know, it was Lefty in OT who said it... What's my name again? :crazyeye: Sometimes I feel like that guy in Resturant at the End of the Universe.