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Bugfatty300 May 12, 2004, 06:15 PM What in your opinion is the least known war/military conflict that your country has fought?
For America I would say that the Korean Campaign of 1871 is probably least recognized. Some people might say that the U.S. Army's involvment in the Russian Revolution of 1917. Anybody know of any lesser known U.S. actions or conflicts let me know.
(Goodway to learn lesser known history)
hsiehtm May 12, 2004, 06:32 PM I've heard of the US involvement in the Russian Revolution, but I've never heard of the Korean Campaign of 1871 so that's probably more obscure. A quick search on Yahoo! turns up this list of military conflicts including a number of obscure ones.
http://www.army.mil/cmh/Moh1.htm
pawpaw May 12, 2004, 06:42 PM but I've never heard of the Korean Campaign of 1871 so that's probably more obscure.
i've heard of it but only because i saw a picture of marines unloading from ships in korea once, otherwise i would have no idea
luiz May 12, 2004, 06:49 PM Brazil was involved in numerous small civil wars that almost nobody outside the country has heard of.
How many of you have heard of the Sabinada? Or the Cabanagem? Or Balaiada? Or Confederação do Equador? or Revolução Farroupilha?
All of them were civil conflicts, and the last one I cited was a big one.
The Yankee May 12, 2004, 07:43 PM This site has some very little known conflicts, rebellions, and coup attempts and the like for the 19th and 20th centuries....including Brazil's Farroupilha Rebellion....which lasted a really long time :eek:
http://www.onwar.com/aced/index.htm
They're usually short summaries...but at least things are there, then you could probably do a search on something you might have an interest in.
Bugfatty300 May 12, 2004, 07:49 PM This site has some very little known conflicts, rebellions, and coup attempts and the like for the 19th and 20th centuries....including Brazil's Farroupilha Rebellion....which lasted a really long time
It doesn't have the Korean Campaign! :mad:
I e-mailed them about it.
But its still an awesome site.
luiz May 12, 2004, 07:53 PM This site has some very little known conflicts, rebellions, and coup attempts and the like for the 19th and 20th centuries....including Brazil's Farroupilha Rebellion....which lasted a really long time :eek:
http://www.onwar.com/aced/index.htm
They're usually short summaries...but at least things are there, then you could probably do a search on something you might have an interest in.
:eek:
That site has all the conflicts I mentioned and many others! I'm impressed, but I must humbly say that I already knew all brazilian conflicts :p
Great site :goodjob:
Moss May 12, 2004, 08:22 PM I had not known about the Korea in the 1800's or about the Brazilian civil wars.
Of course that being said, many people around the world probably don't know what happened in Rwanda over a decade ago. Or what is happening in Sudan right now.
The Yankee May 12, 2004, 08:26 PM It doesn't have the Korean Campaign! :mad:
I e-mailed them about it.
But its still an awesome site.
I don't know if it's updated or anything...it isn't my own site obviously. But it was a jewel I found trying to search for the War of the Triple Alliance.
The Yankee May 12, 2004, 08:40 PM That said, I wonder how many people heard of the Cape Frontier Wars, or Kaffir Wars.
http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/xor/xhosa/findex.htm
Stefan Haertel May 13, 2004, 01:49 AM Some strange war that was fought between 1939 and 1945. I doubt anybody here has ever heard of it.
Stefan Haertel May 13, 2004, 01:53 AM Seriously now, the site pointed to seems to be quite competent, why the **** does it have to be in American flag design? It really turns me off.
Bugfatty300 May 13, 2004, 07:58 PM Alright it took hours of nagotiations but the webmaster has agreed to include the Korean Campaign.
I will now post a transcript of the nagotiations.
1st Email 10:34 PM May, 12th
Dear webmaster.
I have noticed that your site does not include the U.S. Korean Campaign of 1871. This is little known conflict but still deserves recognition considering the even lesser know incidents are recognized.
Fred M.
Reply. 1:08 PM May, 13th.
Thank you for your contribution. I have noted the event and I will add it as time permits.
Regards,
Administrator
Its been along road.....
Smellincoffee May 13, 2004, 11:41 PM Wow, dude, take a break. That must've been hard. :lol:
I've never actually heard of some of these. :eek:
stormbind May 14, 2004, 01:08 AM For UK: How about the war between the Anglo-Saxons and Norwegians from Norway in 1066?
For US: How about Chile and USA in 1977, or Hawaii and USA?
MattII May 14, 2004, 03:09 AM For the UK, how about the Berwick-upon-Tweed vs. Russia.
DreadCthulhu May 14, 2004, 03:30 AM American here, but bizarely enough I have heard about the Berwick-upon-Tweed vs Russia thing before - for those of you who don't know, in 1853 when Queen Victoria declared war against Russia, she did so in the name of "Victoria, Queen of Great Britain, Ireland, Berwick-upon-Tweed and the British Dominions beyond the sea." But Berwick-upon-Tweed wasn't mentioned in the peace treaty made in 1856; techinically, they remained at war with Russia till 1966 when a Soviet official and the Mayor of Berwick-upon-Tweed signed a peace treaty. The Mayor Robert Knox reportably said, "Please tell the Russian people that they can sleep peacefully in their beds."
stormbind May 14, 2004, 03:32 AM Where is Berwick-upon-Tweed? :confused:
DreadCthulhu May 14, 2004, 05:53 AM Berwick-upon-Tweed (http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/berwick/berwickupontweed/) is a town right on the border between England & Scotland.
Adler17 May 14, 2004, 05:58 AM American here, but bizarely enough I have heard about the Berwick-upon-Tweed vs Russia thing before - for those of you who don't know, in 1853 when Queen Victoria declared war against Russia, she did so in the name of "Victoria, Queen of Great Britain, Ireland, Berwick-upon-Tweed and the British Dominions beyond the sea." But Berwick-upon-Tweed wasn't mentioned in the peace treaty made in 1856; techinically, they remained at war with Russia till 1966 when a Soviet official and the Mayor of Berwick-upon-Tweed signed a peace treaty. The Mayor Robert Knox reportably said, "Please tell the Russian people that they can sleep peacefully in their beds."
This reminds me of a German joke about the peolpe of East Friesland, an area at the North sea of the German state Lower Saxony at the border to Holland. These people is considered not very intelligent. It is like the Irish jokes about the people from Kerry. But here is the Joke:
The East Frieseans are declaring war on Russia writing: We have 1000 men and 20 tanks. The Russian answer returns: Do you really want to declare war on us? We have 1.000.000 soldiers and 20.000 tanks. The East Friesean responding: We will not declare war on you. We don´t know where the PoW shall stay.
Yes, we Krauts have humor.
Adler
silver 2039 May 14, 2004, 04:14 PM For India I wold say few people have heard of the Kargil War or 1962 Indo-China War.
They may have herd of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Indo-Pak wars buth have little knowledge of it. Also the Sepoy Rebellion.
pomsa May 14, 2004, 06:59 PM How many Israelis know about our involvement in Turkey and Iraq, both in favor of the Kurds, although we do have some sort of alliance with Turkey?
We also have some intel-sharing agreement with Iran. Not really conflicts, but involvements.
Bugfatty300 May 14, 2004, 08:17 PM How many Israelis know about our involvement in Turkey and Iraq, both in favor of the Kurds, although we do have some sort of alliance with Turkey?
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm sure Israelis are completely aware of our activities in Iraq. And I do believe both Iraqis and especially the Turks despise the Kurds.
And yes. Ever since WWII, moderate Turkey has been an ally of the U.S.
We also have some intel-sharing agreement with Iran.
We have this with alot of countries. Not really surprising.
Marla_Singer May 14, 2004, 08:25 PM France had been in so many conflict since Clovis that I certainly don't know myself which one is the least known... or then it wouldn't be the least known I guess ! :crazyeye:
Bugfatty300 May 14, 2004, 08:34 PM France had been in so many conflict since Clovis that I certainly don't know myself which one is the least known... or then it wouldn't be the least known I guess !
We can narrow it down. Least known conflict beween France and America that I know of would probably be the U.S. landings in French moroco durring WWII.
blindside May 14, 2004, 08:52 PM Yes that was when they landed in Vichy France held beach. I remember seeing a clip from some old movie about it.
Bugfatty300 May 14, 2004, 09:11 PM I remember seeing a clip from some old movie about it.
"The Big Red One?"
In that movie it showed a French officer ordering his troops to open fire on Americans on the beach but they refused one saying that he refused to kill Americans so he gets shot and they kill the officer and then the Americans and French run up to each other and start hugging and kissing. Quite a touching moment. Is that what you saw?
Unfortunatly it was alot more than what was shown in the movie. France put up quite a resistance on the beaches and several miles inland, including a pitched battle between a U.S. battleship and several French destroyers.
Hitro May 14, 2004, 09:11 PM I'm pretty sure the least known conflict Germany's been involved in is a conflict practically noone today has heard of, like the colonial conflicts of the imperialist era.
A rather well-known one of that era, but still generally rather not well-known one is the involvement in China (including the "Hun" speech...).
The Yankee May 14, 2004, 09:16 PM For India I wold say few people have heard of the Kargil War or 1962 Indo-China War.
I've heard of the Kargil....no real knowledge of it....the Indo-China conflict centered around Kashmir and Aksai Chin, right? I don't think the Chinese got very far.
Serutan May 14, 2004, 09:41 PM Technically it's not a separate war, but I suspect the American attempt to invade
Canada during the Revolution is not well known.
Others : Poland-Soviet Union 1919-1920; India-China 1962. At least to the general
population, not necessarily those in this forum.
The Yankee May 15, 2004, 12:15 AM Nor the second invasion into Canada in the War of 1812 (which in itself is probably something not all that well known).
Bugfatty300 May 15, 2004, 12:22 AM Also hardly anyone knows of the Confederate States of America's co-French attack against Matamoros, Mexico.
Adler17 May 15, 2004, 01:16 AM The Polish invasion of Silesia in 1923, which was repelled by the Reichswehr.
Adler
Constantine May 15, 2004, 09:58 AM Nor the second invasion into Canada in the War of 1812 (which in itself is probably something not all that well known).
The War of 1812 is pretty well known just not very people know the details.
pomsa May 15, 2004, 03:28 PM I'm not sure what you mean. I'm sure Israelis are completely aware of our activities in Iraq. And I do believe both Iraqis and especially the Turks despise the Kurds.
And yes. Ever since WWII, moderate Turkey has been an ally of the U.S.
We have this with alot of countries. Not really surprising.
I'm Israeli. When I say we, I mean Israel or Israelis.
The Yankee May 15, 2004, 08:11 PM The War of 1812 is pretty well known just not very people know the details.Maybe in Canada, it's more well known....I'm not too sure about large spaces in America knowing about it. For some reason, it's not presented as important as the Revolutionary War or the Civil War...though a nickname for the 1812-15 war is the "Second Revolutionary War."
YotoKiller May 15, 2004, 09:00 PM Most Americans know about the 1812 war. Mostly because our national anthem was composed during of one of the battles. A smaller portion of Americans knew about the invasion of Canada.
Gladi May 15, 2004, 09:33 PM The Polish invasion of Silesia in 1923, which was repelled by the Reichswehr.
bright day
Repeat it if I am wrong, but wasn't this a conflict over a plebiscite area, that was invaded in turns by both Germany and Poland untill they were told hands off by Allies?
Least known conflict- when my grandmother forced me to eat my vegetables.
Conflict is very broad term.
Anyway Czech-Polish war is not very well known, and I highly doubt that you ever heard of Slovak National Uprising.
Berwick-upon-tweed has I belive been mentioned on this forum before, in same thread as japanase victory in war with USSR.
Bugfatty300 May 15, 2004, 09:36 PM I'm Israeli. When I say we, I mean Israel or Israelis.
Sorry about that.
Sims2789 May 15, 2004, 10:57 PM I never even heard of the Korean Campaign of 1871, but i did know that we interfered in the Russian Revolution of 1917 on the pretext that we were helping Czechoslovakian rebels who were fighting with us against Austria-Hungary get out of Russia.
Sims2789 May 15, 2004, 11:02 PM For India I wold say few people have heard of the Kargil War or 1962 Indo-China War.
They may have herd of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Indo-Pak wars buth have little knowledge of it. Also the Sepoy Rebellion.
I have heard of all of these of all of these though I only know anything about the Sepoy Revolt. Also, most Americans don't know about the seizure of Portuguese colonies in the 1960's(I forget the exact year). The only one on that list I have not heard of is the Kargil War.
Adler17 May 16, 2004, 01:23 AM Gladi, I might be wrong, I heard myself very little abouit that, but IIRC this invasion took place in an area of Silesia but failed due to German resistance. Because of the chaotic time nothing happened more since the Polish troops retreated. The Polish were already fighting with the Russians and we had problems with the French in the Ruhr.
Adler
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