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Bugfatty300
May 12, 2004, 09:20 PM
Look at the picture and tell me if you can identify what battle or even the war and the two sides.

I got asked this question about the same painting on an online quize game. I was stumped. I just want to see if anyone else is as stumped as I was.

I guessed the most obvious thing that came to my head. The Philipinne Insurection of 1900. But I was wrong.

RegentMan
May 12, 2004, 10:11 PM
Maybe it's a battle in the Boer War?

alex994
May 12, 2004, 10:12 PM
Or a battle of the Indian Mutinies?

Reichsfuhrer-SS
May 12, 2004, 10:31 PM
Judging from the Colt model 1911, it could possibly be the Brits or Americans fighting the Ottomans during WW1.

Bugfatty300
May 12, 2004, 10:38 PM
Its not the Boers and Indian Mutanies are too early.

Forget naming the battle. Just guess the sides and the campaign or war ect.

Judging from the Colt model 1911, it could possibly be the Brits or Americans fighting the Ottomans during WW1.

Great guess. This would have been my second guess. Your time is right though. WW1 was going on at the time but wasn't part of it.

Birdjaguar
May 12, 2004, 10:41 PM
Americans fighting in Asia between 1890 and 1935. Maybe the phillipines?

Birdjaguar
May 12, 2004, 10:42 PM
opps I should have read the previous post. Don't know then

pomsa
May 12, 2004, 10:49 PM
Tanzanikyia (sp?) Guerillas vs. British?

Bugfatty300
May 12, 2004, 10:55 PM
Tanzanikyia (sp?) Guerillas vs. British?

No. Wrong place and sides.

Americans fighting in Asia between 1890 and 1935. Maybe the phillipines?

Your close.

Birdjaguar
May 12, 2004, 11:30 PM
In 1899 the Filipinos revolted against American imperialism and were squashed.

The Yankee
May 12, 2004, 11:43 PM
Oh! Was that the campaign against Pancho Villa? By America.

Kafka2
May 12, 2004, 11:51 PM
US invasion of Haiti- 1915?

Bugfatty300
May 12, 2004, 11:56 PM
Oh! Was that the campaign against Pancho Villa? By America.

Close but no cigars.

EDIT. No wait I said to much.

The Yankee
May 13, 2004, 12:15 AM
The Moros?

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 12:21 AM
The Moros?

Ding Ding Ding!

You got it.

Can you name the battle? It should be easy now.

btw this is entertaining. Somebody should post another picture or painting to contenue the thread.

The Yankee
May 13, 2004, 12:26 AM
Oh, geez....I want to say Mt. Dajo, but it was before World War I (actually, I think the rebellion against the Americans ended slightly before the world war began...could be wrong).

Never would have guessed the Moros, it looks like anyone influenced By Spain.

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 12:51 AM
Oh, geez....I want to say Mt. Dajo, but it was before World War I (actually, I think the rebellion against the Americans ended slightly before the world war began...could be wrong).

Bagsak Mountain which is on the same island I think. Jolo Island. But the guy who made the quiz was wrong. I looked it up and found that it happened in June 1913. Not June 1914.

Did you know General Pershing had a hundred Moros executed and burried in mass graves with pig waste and intestines so their soul's would become unclean and there for refused entry into paridise which terrified other Moros. Wierd huh? But they deserved it. The band of Moros had just got done slaughtering a mass of Filippino catholics with machetes.

Dann
May 13, 2004, 01:38 AM
Very interesting quiz. I wanted to participate but work got in the way. By the time I got back here, it was all over. :(
Is it true that the .45 Colt model 1911 was developed in order to deal with Moro "juramentados"? It was said that those frenzied guys could take a lot of pain and damage and yet continue advancing, but the .45 was powerful enough to knock them down, and once down, they stayed down.

At least that's the legend I was told. Anyone with more information?

Jorge
May 13, 2004, 03:28 AM
Oh, geez....I want to say Mt. Dajo, but it was before World War I (actually, I think the rebellion against the Americans ended slightly before the world war began...could be wrong).

Never would have guessed the Moros, it looks like anyone influenced By Spain.

Philipines was a spanish colony until 1898

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 05:25 AM
Is it true that the .45 Colt model 1911 was developed in order to deal with Moro "juramentados"? It was said that those frenzied guys could take a lot of pain and damage and yet continue advancing, but the .45 was powerful enough to knock them down, and once down, they stayed down.

They were one of the several reasons it was made .45 caliber. But the Army had used .45 caliber revolvers before the .38 came along. So that may have also influenced it also. I doubt the actual design had anything to do with it.

dgfred
May 13, 2004, 07:53 AM
To the shores of Tripoli, we will fight our countries battles on the land, and
air, and sea. :confused: :soldier:

dgfred
May 13, 2004, 08:46 AM
Sorry for late post. Maybe you can try some questions later. Much fun. :D

Mr Black
May 13, 2004, 12:36 PM
Great idea for a thread, it should be continued with more such paintings and pictures.

I'l continue it by attempting to attach this image painted by some dude from Belfast. Guess this battle!, and guess the war also.

pawpaw
May 13, 2004, 12:50 PM
san jacinto?

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 01:40 PM
I agree with pawpaw. Is it San Jacinto, War of Texas Independence?

Encamped mexicans being overrun. It just has to be Jacinto.

Mr Black
May 13, 2004, 04:22 PM
Damn, that was fast! Good job guys.

Now bring on the next one!

pawpaw
May 13, 2004, 04:25 PM
Damn, that was fast! Good job guys.

didn't notice your location till now--that would of been a clue too

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 07:27 PM
Name This Battle!!!

pawpaw
May 13, 2004, 07:32 PM
looks like the storming of harpers farry

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 07:45 PM
Correctomundo!

John Brown's raid to get weapons to arm his slave army fails miserably thanks to the Marines and their commander Robert E. Lee. John Brown was captured and executed for treason.

Mr Black
May 13, 2004, 09:24 PM
These paintings are cool, so descriptive. :)

OK, try this one.

Birdjaguar
May 13, 2004, 09:30 PM
Death of captain Cook in Hawaii

Mr Black
May 13, 2004, 09:34 PM
GRRRRRRR!!! You are correct.

That's it, the next one I do is going to be REALLY hard. No more easy ones. ;)

Birdjaguar
May 13, 2004, 09:37 PM
Just think of the challenge we are providing you!

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 09:57 PM
You guys 'ill never get this :D

Btw this painting is awesome. One of my favorites. Just the thoght of those guys with topp hats and tomahawks charging full speed at me gives me the willies.

Birdjaguar
May 13, 2004, 10:07 PM
Top hats and tomahawks!! Must be in America, probably the war of 1812. I would guess Canadian border rarther than New Orleans.

Bugfatty300
May 13, 2004, 10:17 PM
Yep you got it!

The Battle of Moraviantown to be precise. Kentucky Militia experts with tomahawks and Kentucky Rifles.

btw. My next one is gona be hard.

Bugfatty300
May 14, 2004, 03:39 PM
This one is hard. I ain't giving any more hints either. The location(region etc), relative year, and side that is shown in the picture will do.

Btw Please guess all three of these instead of just guessing the side or region alone. To easy.

Birdjaguar
May 14, 2004, 04:28 PM
The tactical formation (or lack of it) of the infantry would put the date after say 1850. Their uniforms appear to be from the Americas. The lancers push the cavalry side towards a European power or a nation copying Europe. I would guess a S American war 1850 to 1900 involving Argentina, Parguay or Brazil. The cavalry would be from Argentina and the infrantry from a neighbor like Paraguay

Bugfatty300
May 14, 2004, 04:46 PM
Nope :p. Region and sides are wrong.

pomsa
May 14, 2004, 06:12 PM
Wars of Italian Unification--1860s, Italy advancing against Austria

Birdjaguar
May 14, 2004, 06:18 PM
Good guess!! Weren't there "Red Shirts" in that war?

storealex
May 14, 2004, 06:37 PM
hmm... When I try to post a picture it links to the pictures location instead...

Gingerbread Man
May 14, 2004, 06:54 PM
storealex - put it between [IMG] tags.

Great thread! I'm learning so much just by people trying to figure it out. That said, I have no hope of answering any of these.

Birdjaguar
May 14, 2004, 06:59 PM
Garibaldi's red shirts!

Bugfatty300
May 14, 2004, 07:33 PM
Nope! :lol: :p

I told ya my next one was gonna be hard.

YotoKiller
May 14, 2004, 09:54 PM
Anglo-Afghan war of 1878. Battle of Kahandy Pass(spelling?). :D

Bugfatty300
May 15, 2004, 12:18 AM
Anglo-Afghan war of 1878. Battle of Kahandy Pass(spelling?).

:lol: You sounded so certain. No that is inccorect.

Ancient Grudge
May 15, 2004, 03:10 AM
I have no idea at all, but im going to guess could it be the polish up rising in 1862-63.

Or another guess the Sardinian troops in the Crimea?

yaroslav
May 15, 2004, 05:35 AM
The battle of El Caney between Cuban-Spanish soldiers and American soldiers?

storealex
May 15, 2004, 06:11 AM
It's too hard for us normal people. Try to gues this one:
http://www.forter.dk/images/Slaget%20paa%20reden%20Flaadebatr%20Nr_%201.jpg

Constantine
May 15, 2004, 09:53 AM
Judging from what looks like a Danish flag on one of the ships, and muzzle loaded cannons , I'd say maybe one of the British attacks on Cophenhagen.

storealex
May 15, 2004, 10:29 AM
Correct. Hmm, that was too easy. Unfortunately all our war paintings have our flag on them...

YotoKiller
May 15, 2004, 10:31 AM
I have no idea at all, but im going to guess could it be the polish up rising in 1862-63.

The battle of El Caney between Cuban-Spanish soldiers and American soldiers?

Since somebody else posted a picture I'll go head and give the answer.

Buena, Vista Mexico. Mississippi rifles commanded by Jefferson Davis.

After withstanding wave after wave of Mexican cavalry Davis ordered his troops to charge. Many were out of ammunition so they charged with bowie knives drawn, as can be seen in the painting.

Quite possibly the only bowie knife charge in history.

yaroslav
May 15, 2004, 12:02 PM
Nice one, Yoto (can I could you Yoto?).

BTW, little off-topc, can you explain me your signature?

Bugfatty300
May 15, 2004, 12:17 PM
Nice one, Yoto (can I could you Yoto?).

Btw It was MY picture. I PMed yoto the answer and he posted the answer against my wishes :mad:

yaroslav
May 15, 2004, 12:21 PM
Oh, sorry for that :(

YotoKiller
May 15, 2004, 12:21 PM
Btw It was MY picture. I PMed yoto the answer and he posted the answer against my wishes

Sorry! I didn't think you'd care because somebody already posted another pic and nobody was gona get it any way.

BTW, little off-topc, can you explain me your signature?

Hungry(as in the country) shouldn't be hungry(starving) if its next to Turkey and Greece.

yaroslav
May 15, 2004, 12:30 PM
Sorry for being SO stupid, but English is not my mother tongue. I know what a turkey is... but, Greece? It's also some kind of food, apart of the country?

YotoKiller
May 15, 2004, 12:36 PM
Sorry for being SO stupid, but English is not my mother tongue. I know what a turkey is... but, Greece? It's also some kind of food, apart of the country?

Greece is pronounced the same as the word grease which is stuff used in frying food.(French fries, onion rings, fried chicken. This is more popular in America and also in Asia.

Its not really a food but the joke is that Hungry has Turkey and also has 'Greece or grease' in which to cook it in. So Hunry shoudn't be hungry, should it?

YotoKiller
May 15, 2004, 01:07 PM
Guess the battle!

SuperBeaverInc.
May 15, 2004, 01:36 PM
Spanish-American War - 1898 - Somewhere near Cuba?

Constantine
May 15, 2004, 02:02 PM
Dewey attacking Manilla bay?

alex994
May 15, 2004, 02:57 PM
nooo, that was my response...

pomsa
May 15, 2004, 03:22 PM
Spanish fleet fighting the American Navy outside of Santiago, Cuba.

YotoKiller
May 15, 2004, 08:55 PM
Constantine got it right! Dewey's fleet at Manila Bay.

yaroslav
May 16, 2004, 03:25 AM
Thanks for the explanation:D

Mr Black
May 16, 2004, 10:33 AM
Guess the side shown, the war, and geographic location to the neareast 100 miles or so.

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 11:00 AM
Everything about it smacks of US troops in WW2 pacific theater. Solomon islands maybe. One palm tree is as good as another. But if the "body bag" is really a body bag and not a blanket, then it has to be much later: vietnam.

Mr Black
May 16, 2004, 11:07 AM
You are so off, it's not even funny. Actually it is kind of funny. :)

If I remember the caption correctly, that is not a body bag. The soldier there is only wounded and being carried to safety. :)

EDIT: All 3 guesses were wrong.

Hitro
May 16, 2004, 11:16 AM
I'd guess it's from the Iraq-Iran war, guessing the precise location doesn't have much of a point.

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 11:21 AM
I say its American's in South Korea. Pusan Parimeter in the months just before Inchon.

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 11:29 AM
Not Americans eh. I thought the little wool hat was odd. So much for using helmet style as a dating device. Not that women really liked those helmets anyway.

pawpaw
May 16, 2004, 11:39 AM
the soldiers look "swarthy" indian-pakistan war?

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 11:41 AM
Oh then. I change my guess. Turkish troops in South Korea.

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 11:42 AM
So much for using helmet style as a dating device. Not that women really liked those helmets anyway.

Yeah Alot of countries adopted that helmet after WWII.

To bad none of them are carrying any weapons.

Mr Black
May 16, 2004, 11:53 AM
I'd guess it's from the Iraq-Iran war, guessing the precise location doesn't have much of a point.

CORRECT!!!

Asking for the location was just a way to throw off some of your guesses. I think it worked. :D

Since there were only 2 sides in this war, I'll telll whom is shown.

These are Iranian troops, somewhere east of Basrah!

Hitro
May 16, 2004, 12:08 PM
Well, which battle is portrayed here:

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 12:08 PM
BTW this is a great thread! Kudos to the picture finders!

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 12:10 PM
looks like French against the austrians in a big battle. I'll go for Wagram 1809.

SuperBeaverInc.
May 16, 2004, 12:22 PM
How about Battle of the Nations in (1814?)

Hitro
May 16, 2004, 12:41 PM
Correct, though it took place in 1813. :goodjob:

YotoKiller
May 16, 2004, 01:06 PM
Name this battle

Steph
May 16, 2004, 01:56 PM
Correct, though it took place in 1813. :goodjob:

Yes, there seems to be Prussian on the left, and there are not so many battles with Austrian and Prussian fighting together, so I'd say Leipzig to

SuperBeaverInc.
May 16, 2004, 06:02 PM
Name this battle

Is it Guadalcanal?

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 06:07 PM
I think the helmet style is very early ww2. Bataan or Corregidor. by Guadalcanal hadn't they switched to the later style?

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 06:20 PM
I bet its the air defense of Manila on the first day of the Japanese carrier attacks.

YotoKiller
May 16, 2004, 06:30 PM
I would have accepted Bataan and Corrgidor but Bugfatty got it closest.

It was the defense of Clark Field. The first place Japanese struck on the Phillippines.

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 06:43 PM
Yoto :goodjob:

Similar painting. Different location.(Not the phillipines)

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 06:45 PM
pearl harbor

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 07:06 PM
Guess again

Dann
May 16, 2004, 07:52 PM
Wake Island?

pawpaw
May 16, 2004, 07:54 PM
midway island?

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 08:00 PM
Wake Island is incorrect! Midway is incorrect!

is it narrowing down yet?

pawpaw
May 16, 2004, 08:04 PM
guam island

SuperBeaverInc.
May 16, 2004, 08:10 PM
How about Palau?

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 08:16 PM
No and no.

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 08:51 PM
Hey uniform specialists. Could they be brits?

SuperBeaverInc.
May 16, 2004, 09:29 PM
How about Hong Kong?

YotoKiller
May 16, 2004, 09:29 PM
Hey uniform specialists. Could they be brits?

How about Hong Kong?

I don't think they are British. Common wealth soldiers ussualy wore khaki shorts and those wierd safari helmets.

One guy in the lower left cornor is wearing American standard issues leggings. one guy seems to be holding what appears to be an '03 Springfield.

They are most likely Americans and time is probably very early 1942.

I'm not an expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. :p

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 09:31 PM
How about the aleutian islands then.

Bugfatty300
May 16, 2004, 09:36 PM
Aluetians it is!

Dutch Harbor, Alaska to be exact. Very ill-equiped National Guardsmen.

blindside
May 16, 2004, 09:38 PM
Is it that warm that the soldiers can wear such clothes? Aren't those islands of the tip of Alaska.

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 09:42 PM
Artistic license. Summers aren't cold, but he left out swarms of mosquitoes!

SuperBeaverInc.
May 16, 2004, 09:51 PM
I was going to put that but then I decided to put down Hong Kong!

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 09:57 PM
Go with your gut!

YotoKiller
May 16, 2004, 11:17 PM
Sea Battle! Pay close attention to the flag! And no, its not the St Andrew's Cross so I don't want to see Scottish Navy as an answer. :p

Birdjaguar
May 16, 2004, 11:28 PM
Scottish battleship William Wallace takes a critical hit from shore batteries during the invasion of Finland in 1905. All hands were lost.

Oda Nobunaga
May 16, 2004, 11:32 PM
Russian early 20th-century ship getting munched up. By Rising-Sun-flying ships almost certainly.

Since they don't seem to be anchored anywhere, I'll go for Tsushima 1905.

YotoKiller
May 16, 2004, 11:37 PM
Tsushima is absolutly, possitivly, no doubt, certainly the correct answer. :goodjob:

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 12:06 AM
I never knew the aleutian islands were so beautiful! :D

Air battle time! GUESS GUESS GUESS!!! War, nations, region, date, blah, blah, blah....you know the rest.

Bugfatty300
May 17, 2004, 12:45 AM
The british plane appears to be a Typhoon.

The "anonymous" plane is a spitfire.

The red and white tail fin pattern is distinctivly U.S. Navy.

The USN used a small number of Spitfires as recon planes.

I'm I hot or cold?

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 01:03 AM
The british plane appears to be a Typhoon.

The "anonymous" plane is a spitfire.

The red and white tail fin pattern is distinctivly U.S. Navy.

The USN used a small number of Spitfires as recon planes.

I'm I hot or cold?


The anymouse plane being a spitfire is the only thing correct, with regards to this photo. It was whited-out for a very good reason!

Bugfatty300
May 17, 2004, 01:08 AM
Well the tailfin pattern is unique like I said bt not limeted to WWII U.S. Navy.

Unluckily for you, I happen to have a huge book that covers nothing but aircraft markings.

I will say that it is an Israeli Spitfire. 1948?

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 01:13 AM
DAMN, that is unlucky for me! :( Good job.

But who are the nations involved in this air battle? :)

EDIT: This battle did not occur in 1948.

Bugfatty300
May 17, 2004, 01:23 AM
The tailfin was the give away. I knew I had seen that kind of pattern somewhere else because there was no way that was a USN plane but I had to look it up to find out.

The Typhoon is definetly British. 1947?

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 01:24 AM
It's not a typhoon, but it is British.

Need to sleep now, answers to come later, although you are so close.

EDIT: Not in 1947 either. :p

Bugfatty300
May 17, 2004, 01:27 AM
The jokes on you buddy. I don't need sleep! :crazyeye: hee hee hee

I'll find the answers by dawn ;)

Bugfatty300
May 17, 2004, 01:42 AM
Sides: Britain, Israel
Year: 1949
Location: Over south Israel

nonconformist
May 17, 2004, 06:04 AM
Hey uniform specialists. Could they be brits?

The helmet is pretty much identical to the British "Flying saucer" type, as the Americans were not issued the classic American (almost German-style) helmet until early 1942.

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 07:53 AM
Sides: Britain, Israel
Year: 1949
Location: Over south Israel

You are good!

I should have asked for date, time and name of pilots. :D


In the mid afternoon on the 7th of January 1949 (ceasefire had to be declared on this day by 2pm,the last day of the fighting) a flight of 19 R.A.F planes from the Fayid Air Base took off in search of 4 Spitfires Mk.PR18 from squadron 208 that were on a reconnaissance patrol over Al Auja-Rafa Road. Earlier, in the morning, 3 of the Spitfires were shot down by 2 Israeli Spitfires Mk.9 and the other was shot down by Anti-Aircraft fire. By the time the R.A.F planes appeared over the patrol area, 4 Israeli Spitfires (piloted by Ezer Weitzman, Sandy Jacobs, Casaer Dangot and Bill Shroeder) were in the area and a dog-fight developed between the two sides. One British plane, a Tempest MkVI, was shot down, and other 3 R.A.F planes suffered minimal damages. From the Israeli side only one plane was slightly damaged in the tail alerones.


The painting is an illustration of the encounter between Spitfire Mk9 (nr 2013/18 from Squadron 101,piloted by Ezer Weitzman) and a R.A.F Tempest MkVI (nr NX134/T*JV from Squadron 6, piloted by Douglas Liquorish) the Tempest was hit in the tail and the root of the left wing but Liquorish made a successful emergency landing at the Fayid Air Base. the ceasefire was officialy declared 20mins after this encounter. This air battle was the last that was fought by the Israeli Airforce in the War Of Independence.

dgfred
May 17, 2004, 08:33 AM
Great postings you guys :thumbsup: Very interesting and fun, you certainly
know your War pictures :king: ;) :king: .

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 08:50 AM
Here's a new one, a little dark but still visible.

Adler17
May 17, 2004, 10:36 AM
This is a battle of the 17th/ early 18th century so it is very hard for me to identify the uniforms. Very much cavalry fightings. Iīm guessing although I think I will be wrong: Fehrbellin 1674, where the Great Elector of Brandenburg drove away the Swedish invasors, the first victory of Brandenburgish troops, who fought without allied help.
BTW the Israelis flew in their independence war also German Me 109 (bought in Chechoslovakia). They flew against Egyptiain Spits. The last fights of these old seniors against each other.

Adler

LouLong
May 17, 2004, 11:24 AM
North France/Belgium 17th century ?
Linked to the Dutch war of Indepednance ?

Adler17
May 17, 2004, 12:00 PM
Malplaquet?

Adler

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 01:03 PM
You all have the right time frame, or close to it.

A bit off in the region though, try going further south.

HINT: The side shown here were not involved at the very start of this 9 year struggle.

EDIT: Here's a better look at those uniforms!

LouLong
May 17, 2004, 01:33 PM
Well they look like English pikes but that is not really... well.... south.

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 03:32 PM
Well they look like English pikes but that is not really... well.... south.

Not English, maybe the image of the battlefield will help. ;)

pawpaw
May 17, 2004, 03:39 PM
battle of marasaglia

Mr Black
May 17, 2004, 03:47 PM
YES! you got it. Battle of Marsaglia - October 1693.

Those guys in red are the "Dragoni di S.A.R" of the Army of the Duke of Savoy!!!

pawpaw
May 17, 2004, 03:51 PM
YES! you got it. Battle of Marsaglia - October 1693.

Those guys in red are the "Dragoni di S.A.R" of the Army of the Duke of Savoy!!!

your hint that it was a nine year war meant the war of the grand allaince and "south" meant france vs savoy. elementry dear watson ;)

Verbose
May 17, 2004, 04:28 PM
This is a battle of the 17th/ early 18th century so it is very hard for me to identify the uniforms. Very much cavalry fightings. Iīm guessing although I think I will be wrong: Fehrbellin 1674, where the Great Elector of Brandenburg drove away the Swedish invasors, the first victory of Brandenburgish troops, who fought without allied help.
BTW the Israelis flew in their independence war also German Me 109 (bought in Chechoslovakia). They flew against Egyptiain Spits. The last fights of these old seniors against each other.

Adler

Interesting forum and an interesting tread you've got going here. (I'm new to it, but think I'll stick around.)

And, oh, Adler17, you are referring to the incident where part of the Swedish cavalry screen bumped into the Brandenburgians, aren't you? Having located the enemy, the Swedes withdrew to report this to the main army, just as any half-decent cavalry commander (JEB Stuart before Gettysburg excluded) would have done? At which point the panicky Prussians seem to have continued to fire at the dark, each other etc. only gradually realizing that the Swedes had left. Off course, not having been buthchered by the Swedes was a big step forward, so this was declared a great victory. The propaganda value was immense, not the actual fighting. (Swedish army doesn't recognize this even as a skirmish, as far as I know.) :lol:

Bugfatty300
May 17, 2004, 05:34 PM
Not really a battle. An important event to Americans in WW1.

pomsa
May 17, 2004, 09:20 PM
The first Army of the United States soldier to die?
The first Army of the United States Air Corps pilot to die?

Bugfatty300
May 17, 2004, 09:29 PM
No. Its not the first or last of anything.

Hint: A less accurate depiction of this scene was portrayed in a movie.

blindside
May 17, 2004, 11:08 PM
They shot down the Red Baron. Actually I'm pretty sure thats incorrect because it was a Canadian who did it. So there was no point in me saying anythign :D

Adler17
May 17, 2004, 11:55 PM
Interesting forum and an interesting tread you've got going here. (I'm new to it, but think I'll stick around.)

And, oh, Adler17, you are referring to the incident where part of the Swedish cavalry screen bumped into the Brandenburgians, aren't you? Having located the enemy, the Swedes withdrew to report this to the main army, just as any half-decent cavalry commander (JEB Stuart before Gettysburg excluded) would have done? At which point the panicky Prussians seem to have continued to fire at the dark, each other etc. only gradually realizing that the Swedes had left. Off course, not having been buthchered by the Swedes was a big step forward, so this was declared a great victory. The propaganda value was immense, not the actual fighting. (Swedish army doesn't recognize this even as a skirmish, as far as I know.) :lol:

Well, this fight was only a small battle but the Swedish troops only invaded because the French feared the Great Elector as opponent of Turenne, the French Moltke. So they got the Swedes to invade Brandenburg. They did, expecting no real opponenent. But he was there and so they had to withdraw. IIRC in the following time the Brandenburgish troops were able to occupy Swedish Pommerania and to follow the rests of the Swedish army to Courland, Riga, where only 5.000 men arrvived. It was winter and the Brandenburgers used sleighs- very effective and very fast. Perhaps the first Blitzkrieg in history :D . But this was in winter 1678/ 79, 4 years after Fehrbellin.

Adler

Verbose
May 18, 2004, 04:00 AM
Well, right you are. Especially about the role of the French in this business. Seems to have been the way the system worked. The Swedes would go off fighting somewhere and the French payed them to do it. (Interesting set of alliances back in the 17th century, with France, the Ottomans and Sweden as fast friends opposed to Habsburgs and sundry allies everywhere.)
Wasn't aware of any details of the invasion of Pommerania, only that it was invaded. Interesting. Kind of the first steps towards the kind of the Prussian Juggernaut that would come later.

Bugfatty300
May 18, 2004, 05:32 AM
They shot down the Red Baron. Actually I'm pretty sure thats incorrect because it was a Canadian who did it. So there was no point in me saying anythign :D

Some people think it was ground fire that could been from anybody that shot the RB down.

Anyway. No. Its an American plane and pilots.

Adler17
May 18, 2004, 07:25 AM
Bugfatty is right, it is indeed a secret, who shot down Manfred Freiherr von Richthofen (83 kills, 80 confirmed). The plane on the picture seems to be a crashed reconnaissance plane with the gunnerīs MG showing to the sky. But the scene I donīt know.

Adler

nonconformist
May 18, 2004, 09:11 AM
Ana irman being heped up by French Poilus.

Adler17
May 18, 2004, 10:15 AM
Exactly, but I donīt know if such thing can be very important for one country. Perhaps the pilot became famous later...

Adler

Bugfatty300
May 18, 2004, 01:44 PM
Ok. Both pilots died from the crash. The paper in the dying pilot's hand is important because it gives the location of something they were looking for.

The pilots were never famous but what they did saved many lives.

Constantine
May 18, 2004, 03:02 PM
There were the airplane that found the Big Bertha and allowed it to be destoryed, thus saving Paris from shelling?

YotoKiller
May 18, 2004, 03:11 PM
He said it was in a movie. How many movies about WW1 can there be?

Bugfatty300
May 18, 2004, 03:16 PM
There were the airplane that found the Big Bertha and allowed it to be destoryed, thus saving Paris from shelling?

Good guess but wrong.

He said it was in a movie. How many movies about WW1 can there be?

The movie is not old.

Redtooth
May 18, 2004, 04:19 PM
Could it be the plan who found the stranded battalion in the argonne forest as portrayed in "The Lost Battalion?"

Bugfatty300
May 18, 2004, 05:43 PM
Could it be the plan who found the stranded battalion in the argonne forest as portrayed in "The Lost Battalion?"

You got it!

Mr Black
May 18, 2004, 11:31 PM
All right, new one! No particular battle, just guess the war.

Adler17
May 19, 2004, 03:38 AM
This can be either an Israeli arab war (6 days or Yom Kippur) or one of the three gulf wars, most propable the first one. Also the Indian- Pakistani wars are possible. The soldiers seem to be Arabs or Pakistani.

Adler

Adler17
May 19, 2004, 04:50 AM
Sorry to start a new picture when another is still open but I tried that for a few days and was never sucessful :( . So try this:

Adler

SuperBeaverInc.
May 19, 2004, 07:07 AM
Mr.Black's picture: Gulf War I - maybe pushing the Iraqis out of Kuwait?

Mr Black
May 19, 2004, 09:53 AM
Sorry to start a new picture when another is still open but I tried that for a few days and was never sucessful :( . So try this:

Adler

There is nothing to be sorry about, this thread has no rules! Besides you were able to pinpoint it correctly, this is the first gulf war. Known today as the Iran-Iraq War. The image shows Iraqi troops getting blasted, by Iranian Air Force! :)

Mr Black
May 19, 2004, 09:58 AM
Mr.Black's picture: Gulf War I - maybe pushing the Iraqis out of Kuwait?

'Gulf War I' was the name of the Iran-Iraq War. Then the name 'Gulf War I' was given to the invasion of Kuwait and subsequent activity. I don't know why.

As far as the new picture, early 20th century with those steam ships, maybe in North Africa? Don't know the battle or war, yet.

LouLong
May 19, 2004, 10:58 AM
WWI (or slightly before) in Africa I'd say.

Colors are not so noticeable so maybe the blacks are Senegalese but the white officers' uniforms makes me think more of English (maybe Belgium ?).

Adler17
May 19, 2004, 11:06 AM
LouLong it is Africa in ww1. But the troops are no Senegalese nor Belgian forces. A small help: The battle was decisive but is not very known. It took place in the early wartime. Thatīs all for now.

Adler

Steph
May 19, 2004, 12:43 PM
These are German colonial uniforms from WWI, I would say Oriental Africa. But I can't tell the battle

LouLong
May 19, 2004, 01:27 PM
Might be around Zanzibar as the Germans gave it to the English in exchange for Heligoland right before the war. Fits with Eastern Africa, German colonial uniforms and the sea battle.

Adler17
May 19, 2004, 02:43 PM
Youīre hot. Indeed they are German colonial troops. The Askari are also fighting at the coast of East Africa. But which battle. It is diificult so a very last hint: Bees. Sansibar was traded with Helgoland in 1890 BTW. Bood business!

Adler

Gagliaudo
May 19, 2004, 07:08 PM
Batlle of TANGA (1915?)
Little German (mostly native) troops defeated British forces (overnumbering).
The bees were disturbed by British during their attempt to have a closer combat with Germans (who were defending in the jungle around the little portual city of Tanga - and some Brit soldiers had a bath in the sea in front of Tanga: they thought it wasn't a 'serious' expedition, until Germans start to fire...)

Adler17
May 19, 2004, 11:53 PM
:band: [dance] :beer:

Gladigaudio is right. It is indeed the first battle of Tanga, 2.- 6. November 1914, where 800 German colonial troops defeated 8000 British / Indian troops. Although the British General Aitken made severe mistakes he might have won, because the Germans had no ammo less. But then the bees attacked and his troops retreated. The British press blamed the Germans to use war bees! Now I have to give the copyright: www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de. With that it would have been a bit too easy.
BTW the British tried in 1915 again a landing in Tanga and were again not successful...

Adler

YotoKiller
May 20, 2004, 12:00 AM
Makes me want to watch Shout at the Devil. Can't get enough of that movie!