info about the swedish civ:

modified civ: the germans.
leader: king gustav II adolf.
capital: stockholm
civ abilities: industrious and scientific.
uu: light artillery. a cannon with one extra move and one extra bombard strenght.
great leaders: karl X, karl XII, oxenstierna, gustav vasa, torstensson.



Here it is!

http://bart.sm.luth.se/~johobe-1/sweden.zip


how to intall:

*back up your civ3mod.bic file. extract my civ3mod.bic file to your civ3 folder.

*create a new folder in art/units/ and call it Light Artillery.

*extract a files called light artillery something to the Light Artillery folder.

Isn't there a way to just ad a civ withoute looseing a older one?

i tried that, but every time i went ro the diplomacy advisor screen i got an error message and the game was shut down. i would be great if somebody found a way to avoid that.

anime, you should remove that warning about LoveFun virus if you want more people use your mod. ;) I scanned the zip and didn't find any virus.

Your custom Civ is uploaded to CFC's file server:

http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/civs/sweden.zip

Im happy to by able to play Sweden :) thx!

/Yarrik
Luleå:Sweden

Just one question - why the improved cannon instead of improved cavalry?

we discussed the swedish uu here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=6083&pagenumber=7

the best and most famous cavalry the swedish army every had was the hakkapelitos during the 30 years war, and they came from finland.

ok, the russians have the cossacks, but i felt that an improved cannon would fit the swedish civ better.


however. i´ll try to change the swedsih mod so it don´t removes the germans.

btw. i´m almost the only one from sweden here that has civ3 and i think that´s why i haven´t got any complaints about the cities. i´ll post a list over the city names for the swedish when i come home, i´m in school right now. i didn´t care so much about put them in right order when i made this mod and i did problary forget some important cities.

city names:

Stockholm
Uppsala
Linköping
Göteborg
Jönköping
Norrköping
Västerås
Kalmar
Örebro
Lund
Falun
Gävle
Luleå
Malmö
Sundsvall
Helsningborg

i´m sure this list could be better. give me your opinions.

You can download Gustavus Adolphus leader images in my RK Bonus Leader Pack (look for the thread in this forum for more info).

Animepornstar, feel free to add them to your mod (or not) if you wish.

To Download my Bonus Leader Pack:
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/rkrech

thank you. but it´s going slow to download it. 400 bytes/sec, when i usually can download things by 250+ kb/sec...

I have the same problem. Yahoo Briefcase isn't high on my list. I wish I had a better place to host it. If you know a place, let me know.

Why didn't you make Vasa the civs leader? :confused:

And another thing.. special unit, shouldn't that have been the Karolin? Extremly well trained and well-equipped, the army of the Karolins lead by Karl XII was the most powerful warmachine in the 17th (?) century, according to alot of people. :)

Great work with the mod anyway. :)

Hasn't anyone ever thought of making the Swedes or Viking civilization have a LONGSHIP as the special unit? It could be a trireme with an attack of 2, and doesn't flounder on the oceans like regular triremes do!

I've never heard of special swordsmen, cavalry or cannons from Sweden, but I'll bet almost everyone can identify with the Viking Longship as something special!

Tcchk, as if..! You're hardly the only Swede around here my dear animepornstar... :lol:

There's at least... Uhh... Like... Five of us altogether. :goodjob:

Well anyways, I hadn't noticed the modpack until I browsed past. But now I know which Civ I will play next time mind you. As I haven't yet tried it I can't give any input thus far, but I'll be sure to do when I have. The Carolins ( Karoliner ) would have been a good option for a UU IMHO, but I frankly don't know what added bonus they could have. What strikes me first is of course a more offensively able Musketman, but that would be the French Musketeer. On the other hand, I did rename the French Swedes and pretend the Musketeer was a Caroline ( or however they heck you would say it in english ) in my last game. ;) But yes, the cannon works as well.

And Wolfshanze, the Longship ( actually Dragonship if you translate it from what at least most of the Swedish vikings called them ) were solely attributed to the Vikings, and frankly, most of them came from Norway/Denmark/Iceland, not Sweden. The Swedish "Vikings" were a lot more concerned with farming and trading than they were with the stereotypical Viking things such as plundering and raiding and such. ;)

Had it been a Viking Civ we talked about the Longship would have been dandy, but it's hardly something to recognize the Swedish civlization by. Besides, who really identifies for example Babylon with an archer? Or the persians with the "Immortal"? I don't, anyways.

Well, that'll be that then. :nuke:

Originally posted by animepornstar
city names:

Stockholm
Uppsala
Linköping
Göteborg
Jönköping
Norrköping
Västerås
Kalmar
Örebro
Lund
Falun
Gävle
Luleå
Malmö
Sundsvall
Helsningborg

i´m sure this list could be better. give me your opinions.

What about adding:
Skara
Eskilstuna
Växjö
Borås
Visby (Very important to medieval trading in the baltic)
Åbo
Helsingfors
Viborg
Reval
Uleåborg
Umeå

I can name many more, but these are recommended

Hey, I have a few suggestions:
First of all, the city of Luleå should be included. Regardless of peoples thoughts, the area around Luleå has the largest populational concentration north of Sundsvall.

Secondly: What I propose is that instead of making a light artillery, you make an air defence unit, or simply a better aircraft, to be avilible the industrial age. Right after World War II, Sweden had the fourth largest aircraft capacity, after U.S.A., the Soviet Union and Great Brittain.

First of all thanks for the help. I added the mod and the pics to make a complete mod. Really nice to be able to play Sweden.

I have added some more cities and leaders. Here they are, have fun.. :)


Cities
Stockholm
Göteborg
Malmö
Uppsala
Linköping
Jönköping
Norrköping
Västerås
Kalmar
Örebro
Lund
Falun
Gävle
Luleå
Sundsvall
Helsingborg
Skara
Eskilstuna
Växjö
Borås
Vänersborg
Vadstena
Visby
Läckö
Umeå
Strängnäs
Nyköping
Riga
Kexholm
Nöteborg
Tavastehus
Åbo
Viborg
Reval
Uleåborg

Leaders
Karl X
Karl XII
Oxenstierna
Gustav Vasa
Torstensson
Horn
Banér
Wrangel
De la Gardie
Fleming

Alltough I'm not a Swede, i think it's great with scandinavian countries in the game + finnish. My idea for Swedish mod is (and I must say I don't know too much of Swedish history):

Leader names:
Gustav Adolf
Karl XII
Karl Bonde
Karl Johan
Sten Sture
Carl Gustaf
Gustav Vasa
Adolf Fredrik
Emund den Gamle
Erik av Pommern
Magnus Ladulås
Olof Skøtkonung
Christoffer av Bayern

City names:
Stockholm
Borås
Göteborg
Helsingborg
Jönköping
Linköping
Malmö
Norrköping
Uppsala
Västerås
Örebro
Lund
Mora
Osby
Sala
Umeå
Åmål
Arløv
Boden
Eksjø
Esløv
Falun
Gävle
Hörby
Kalix
Kumla
Luleå
Nacka
Nybro
Piteå
Solna
Visby
Växjö
Ystad
Arboga
Arvika
Gränna
Kalmar
Kiruna
Köping
Mjölby
Motala
Nässjö
Säffle
Sävsjö
Tranås
Bollnäs
Klippan
Lidingö
Ljungby
Ljusdal
Ludvika
Lysekil
Ronneby
Sigtuna
Varberg
Älmhult
Alingsås
Borgholm
Fagersta
Halmstad
Hedemora
Jokkmokk
Kallinge
Karlstad
Kramfors
Lycksele
Mellerud
Vimmerby
Filipstad
Huskvarna
Karlshamn
Karlskoga
Mariefred
Norrtälje
Strømstad
Sundsvall
Uddevalla
Kungsbacka

wow:eek: , this thread is still alive. is though it was dead since a long time ago, but that was problary because civ3 wasn´t released in sweden when i made the mod:suicide: .

however, it´s cool to hear from people from örnsköldsvik (my former hometown) and luleå (where i live now, and it is included in the mod), i would like to have some pics of gustav II adolf for this mod. i haven´t had time to make some pics myself and the link ryank posted doesn´t work anymore. does anyone have any?

the choice of gustav II adolf as leader was natural as he is the most famous, most powerful(together with oxenstierna) and most successful leader sweden ever had. i took the light artillery because it was the most important part of the new kind of warfare sweden introduced in the 30 years war, but the problem is that the artillery can´t win combats in civ3, which i didn´t knew when i created the mod...:( so, you need to build wonders to trigger the golden age.:(

edit: ryank´s link works now!:goodjob:

Edited.

Edited.

Just wondering why you modified the germans, they are my favourites and I would love to play germans against swedes...

Why not make Karl XII the leader of Sweden and make them as aggressive as the Zulus?
Yes, the Caroline should be the special unit of Sweden....

Edited.

Swedish civilization ? You must be joking ;)

I'm editing several off-topic posts here and hoping this thread will get back on topic before one has to play big bad mod and shut it off.

A.H - Your tripe is not welcome on these boards. Kindly take it elsewhere. Another such post will result in a ban.

Originally posted by preste joao
Swedish civilization ? You must be joking ;) Ruotsi on maailman paras maa!

Of course we need a Swedish Civilization. Where else would C3CT be developed? :rolleyes:

By the way: there is currently no way to add a civ and get the foreign advisor working. Just because the pediaicons.txt doesn't work as it is supposed to.

Isn't somebody making a Finnish civ too? Instead of whining, we Scandinavians (or North Europeans or whatever) should go together and make an Expansion Pack for Northern Europe.

And then we could include the Nokia Phone Factory which is available only to Finland and grants immediate victory.

About the deleted posts: I myself can stand most things, including stereotypical bashing of my nationality. However, such things disgrace and discomfort others.

what file is civ3mod.bic I only see a civ3mod file NO .bic extension to it. Is this the same with or with out the .bic?

Originally posted by Gramphos
Ruotsi on maailman paras maa!(..)

*Juize hitting his head on the wall and killing himself, several times, then
calms down when tells himself jokes about the bad gay-swedes*

I shouldn't try to teach finnish to swedish guys on SpammApolyton-chat...

And if you're going to add Åbo to swedish town, then also add Wasa.

Originally posted by Juize

And if you're going to add Åbo to swedish town, then also add Wasa.

How dare you call Åbo and Wasa Swedish towns. First of all the real name for Åbo is Turku, and both of them are Finnish towns. I can't understand why you swedes can't call these towns with their real names.

Other Finnish towns that were mispelled in this topic:
Wasa -> Vaasa, Helsingfors -> Helsinki, Viborg -> Viipuri, Tavastehus -> Hämeenlinna, Uleåborg -> Oulu

Sarme: You´re missing the point. Those cities were under Swedish rule for a very long time (longer than they have been under independent Finnish rule), and had of course their Swedish names at that time. It´s a bit like the Mongols having cities like Baghdad in Civ2.

And yes, Åbo the other town´s names are indeed their REAL names, just in another language. Your argument is a as stupid as arguing that Finland is a misspelling, since it is called Suomi in Finnish (well, I guess Finnish is also a misspelling). :crazyeyes:

Originally posted by Juize
I shouldn't try to teach finnish to swedish guys on SpammApolyton-chat...
:p - That quote is actually from a thread, in which I changed Somi to Rosti, and not from the chat. In the chat I only lerant to say goodnight. Too bad I don't remember how. :(

And yes, I also think that the swedish special unit should be the Caroline.

Varför är det bara norrlänningar som spelar civ???

About spelling - Civ 3 is (so far only) written in English, so all names should be in their English versions, which, concerning Finland, are mostly identical to the Finnish ones. Translating city names would only make sense if you translate the entire game.

I would say that the city name list should only contain names of cities that were founded by the concerned civ, at best inside its own territory. Thus, cities in Skåne would rather be on the Danes' list.

Det finns väl sörlänningar också, eller?

Hmmh yes, nothing of importance 'cept to the Swedish lads about.

Vaaddåå bara Norrlänningar? Ska jag bli förolämpad nu eller..? ;)

*stolt södermanlandsbo*

:king:

I have put viking and swedish civilization together and also add Finland to it.
Cities are from all nordic countries. Oslo, Stockholm, Helsinki...and so on...
They are scientific and industrous.
They cannot be militaristic as nordics haven't ever been warmongers. Religious? Hah! Expansionists? Not really...maybe the vikings but otherwise? No...

Gustav II Aadolf is the leader.
Democracy the favorite government.
Communism the shunned.
Some leaders:
Eric the Red
Wasa
Mannerheim


Special units:
Raiders (vikingswordmen ambhious unit)
Drakeships (vikingships like galleys)
Hakkapelitos (Light Cavalry after Gunpowder)

Note that I have added more than one special unit to each civilization. Example War chariots are special unit to more than just one civilization.
I replaced the Babylonians with Nordic people.

Originally posted by Wolfshanze
Hasn't anyone ever thought of making the Swedes or Viking civilization have a LONGSHIP as the special unit?

I think that could be saved for a possible norwegian civ. If i remember correctly, the swedes went more eastward to Russia, while the norwegians went more by the north sea.

For god's sake!

Sigtuna, is considered the olsdest town of Sweden... Not the biggest, but the oldest... and birka.. an old viking town.

Great mod by the way

P.S. Jakobsberg should be the capital

Originally posted by Wolfshanze
Hasn't anyone ever thought of making the Swedes or Viking civilization have a LONGSHIP as the special unit? It could be a trireme with an attack of 2, and doesn't flounder on the oceans like regular triremes do!


I like the idea of a longship (dragonship/drakeship/viking ship), although I think it should be saved for a viking civilization. The Swedes of that time were vikings as well, but the were called varjags and travelled mostly to the east (even reaching Constantinopel via the rivers), thus not being classic vikings.

The viking ship wasn't a ship designed for war though, so I'm not so sure about the attack of 2. I would prefer to add an extra point of movement instead. This would enable a viking civilization to cross straights and seas easier as they could move two squares from the shoreline and still be able to get back without risk. Thus they could travel farther, just as they did historically.

Karl XI should be the leader, he builded up the caroline army and a modern and cheap jetfighter should be the unit. Sweden is one of few countries wich still can build its own topmodern jetfighters. Maybe Tunnan or Draken.:goodjob:

I also think that the swedes should be Militaristic, one of Europes greatest powers for long time, and Industrius.:goodjob: :cool:

Var kan namnet Vaasa komma ifrån:confused:
Kaaaanske från det moderna Sveriges gundare Gustav Vasa.:lol:

By the way, Great mod! :goodjob:

Or how about experimental Jet fighter as special unit that could go down when they are showing it to the public? :D

Just kidding...

I think some sort of musketman or cavalry unit could present Swedish and could start it's golden age. It would also work better when put to middle age era as Sweden hasn't really been war during industrial or modern times or has it?:king:

No, you're right.
Sweden has had peace for more then 100 years and it's "golden age" was during the 30 year war until the death of Karl XII 1712

i´m going to create a new unit for my mod, since the cannon can´t trigger a golden age. so this is what i´m planing to do is a caroline by modifing the industrial leader´s graphics. it will problary be like the cavalry but sweden will get it with metallurgy. what do you think about that? i would rather have a unit from the thirty year war, but the most outstanding cavalry were from finland and i want to leave the finns out of this mod so it can be used together with a finnish mod, the infantary did barely have uniforms and the light artillery can´t trigger a golden age.

i´ll maybe rename gustav II adolf to gustavus adolphus. any opinions about that? i would really like to know what people outside sweden think.

started a poll about the leader name here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15350

preview of the swedish uu the caroline. btw, i made that poor bastard blonde:D .

Great looking unit.
I think it is good that you are changing the Special Unit to Carolines. The one thing of swedish history I remember, is when u kicked our ass (I'm a Dane), and that was with exactly that unit.
Good work by the way, it's nice seeing the nordic contries in civ too...

it seems like the correct english word for "karolin" is carolean. the unit will problary be a musketman with one extra move (2.4.2).

I like that animation, Great!!!:viking:

That Carolean unit...
But how about one extra defence instead of that one extra move?

Gustav II Aadolf changed the tactics used by that time so the firepower of infantry unit was great. However the attacking was still problem and was made primarily by the light cavalry.
Defence was the greatest weapon as infantry units were like moving fortresses some men having spears and others muskets. Normal cavalry attack of that time which was mainly load-charge-shoot-get back-reload was inefficient against firepower of swedish army.

Or...
You can give the unit some bombard rating along with normal musketman abilities as swedish army used also moveable cannons that time to give more firepower to troops. (change the first attack animation to cannon one so it looks they use as bombard)

I don't really find any good reason (historical) to give them one extra movement. Or did the logistics of swedish army of that time superior others so much?

Just wondering, where can I download this mod?? :D

Originally posted by animepornstar
preview of the swedish uu the caroline. btw, i made that poor bastard blonde:D .

Great looking unit. Can I use it in my mod ? I need an animation for grenadir.

Originally posted by s3d


Great looking unit. Can I use it in my mod ? I need an animation for grenadir.

sure, but the animations are not finished yet. btw, the grenadirs had a different kind of hats, no big deal but they look like this:

When will the new Karolin, or Caroline, or whatever ;) animation be ready. Looking forward to add that one, should make the mod more or less complete.

Now, I might have missed it as I only browsed the topic quickly, but about the city names... Malmø and Helsingborg might be Swedish now, but they are originally Danish cities, so if you want your mod to be realistic I think you should remove those. That is just my opinion of course, but it goes hand in hand with the examples of Koenigsberg which is now in Russia IIRC but was founded by Germans. :)

I said something like that a few posts ago.

How is the Sweden mod coming along. I really look forward to playing it.

Btw, could you perhaps include civs like Denmark, Poland and Holland in the mod, and also make sure not to replace civs like Russia and Germany so I can rule the baltic sea with my mighty Swedish empire. Would be awesome!!

I originally posted this at the Karolean unit thread, but then I realized this would be a more approproate thread to post it in

it´s going a bit slow right now but as soon i´ve done my exams i´ll take up the work with the carolean again.

I have seen this thread being silent for a month. I do hope your exams are through soon anime - I'm eagerly awaiting a Swedish civ to put icing on the cake for this game.

I really like the Carolean approach (rather than any Cannon or Longship), especially if you're going to use Gustav II Adolf as the leader (not that the leader makes too much difference, since he's going to stay with the civ from 4000 BC to 2050 AD anyway).

Did you ever incorporate any Gustav II Adolf leaderhead images into the modpack? Or were they not up to par? I really like ccm02's leaderheads for Germany, France, Russia, America etc.

Keep it up, and hope that you're able to finish it off!

//:goodjob:

Hey!

Just saw this thread. Man! this is what Ive been Longing for in Civ3. A swedish civ with the Carolean soldier, awsome! great work on the graphics. I hope you´ll keep on working with this mod or should i beg you to do so...lol

keep up the good work!

cheers
Wise

First of all I hope you get good scores on the exams! Second I cant wait til the mod is finished, (looks really great!)

Is this thread still up and running?????

I hope it still is!!! :eek:

Great,...but where is everybody????
This mod could be done now with the new patch (1.29)

/OmniMower

Maybe they forgot about it ??:confused:

Yea.... think so. To bad, but lets gather everybody on this one.

/OmniMower

Wonder how many of these guys still are on CivFan....

Hey!

I would just like to point out that there are a few guys from Skåne, Sweden (me included of course) who are just as much C3 fanatics as the rest of you and really looking forward to the swedish civ-mod to be finished ..... :)

Any word on this yet?? :confused:


Me personaly would really love it if the swedish civ was added to the original civs and didn´t replace any of the existing ones ...

Hey Sunny,
If any one starts doing a Swedemod by adding a new civ in the Editor, we are on our way. Then we would have our own great Culture fighting the rest of them......
So maybe I will start this one, but I need help with Swedish army units, grafix and so on.....
Any one?

Hey everybody!!!
I think we should do this one!!!! consider we got worldclass technologies as Ericsson Microwave, Bofors Defence, SAAB Aerospace, Kockums and Hägglunds Vehicle and so on.... Im doing a excel sheet of the Swed army....anyone interested to do a followup???????

Originally posted by OmniMower
Hey everybody!!!
I think we should do this one!!!! consider we got worldclass technologies as Ericsson Microwave, Bofors Defence, SAAB Aerospace, Kockums and Hägglunds Vehicle and so on.... Im doing a excel sheet of the Swed army....anyone interested to do a followup???????

I hate to dissapoint you, but If you´re talking about Kockums in Malmö (submarine-building etc) it no longer exists .... (http://www.kranspan.nu) .... of course it could be in the game anyway ... ;)

Hey Sunny,
thats right, but Landskrona Varvet should be up and running since we got the Visby Stealth Vessel project going....

/OmniMower

when will we see the carolean unit in this mod???

A Carolean unit would be great!!!!!
I am currently constructing the CV90 family and ARTHUR Radar unit that I hope will be finished soon.....
...so the Swedes will have one or two UU´s....

/OmniMower

Hey everybody!
We soon got our Strv 122 as a unit. Kinboat are about to finish the work on the Leopard II, wich are the Strv 122. Its in German camouflage but it will do anyway!

Two units are soon available for the SwedeMod.
One is a UU, from the CV90 Family:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30386

and the second is the Centurion Tank, our Strv 102:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30585&perpage=20&display=&pagenumber=1

/OmniMower

IS THIS THREAD STILL ON??????????????????????????? :confused: :confused: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :hmm: :hmm: :sleep:

Omnimower is working on a Swedish Gripen plane too. It looks really cool so far.

Hey, peso! how in the h*ll did you find this thread????

I have no life. I just peruse the forums all day and night. Hehe. I get all around the forum.

When nothing new pops up in my control panel, I just start clicking on stuff.

:lol: just like me...no life!!!! Sitting here 05.45 in the morning, having thoughts about the JAS Gripen run animation...:lol:

Man, gotta love the CFC!!! :D

So is this thread still going strong?

Omnimower posted a Swedish city list on the city list thread if anyone is interested.

This thread is dead like a drunk babe in your bed...:D, but I hang in here, you never know...:D

good analogy.

Det fanns fler svenskar här en vad jag trodde ju!

Tjenare IceEye!

Joina mig och skapa en skit bra mod!!!!
Har du tid? Kan du skapa units???

/OmniMower

The Visby Class Stealth Corvette is under construction :
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32240

... and the JAS 39 Gripen:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32041

Kan inte ett skit om att skapa enheter, men håller ett vakande öga på denna tråden för jag vill gärna inkludera "svennarna" i mitt Civ3 :) :goodjob:

Ok, Sunny! Håll ett öga på denna thread! Jag hoppas att vi kan göra nått åt den....jag har precis mutat sween32 till att göra en leaderhead...så vi behöver komma överrens om vem vi vill ha.

Ta en "knug" i högen .... :lol:

I would suggest either the current king Carl XVI Gustaf or the current PM Göran Persson ... but I guess some of you out there would find that boring .... ;)

Calle XVI Gurra or Göran???? :lol: I hope that is a joke! :lol:

....we need powerful people here!

Gustaf Wasa
Gustaf II Adolf
Karl X
Karl XI
Karl XII
Gustaf III Adolf
...more?

I think we go with Gustaf II Adolf.. the man who build up our army.
And some more leaders are needed.

GUYS!
How about a scenario when sweden was a european superpower.???
Can anyone help me out with that one?

IceEye:

de där Djurgården grejen oroar mig lite...:D

If you people would like to have non-Swedes participate in the construction of this mod - and perhaps use it, to get acquainted with the culture, why not communicate in a language more people in the forum use?

Originally posted by marki
If you people would like to have non-Swedes participate in the construction of this mod - and perhaps use it, to get acquainted with the culture, why not communicate in a language more people in the forum use?

WE KNOW THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....fried swedes....be carefull......:D

* UNIT UPDATE*

Visby Stealth Corvette
Is coming along very fine, should be done this week (v.40). Animations will be a missiles fired and a attack with the main gun.

JAS 39 Gripen
The animation of the 1st ATTACK is done and only need some adding.... and there are some roumers about a J37 Viggen aswell.

CV90 Family
We are about to get 5 of the vehicles in the Strf90 family. They are: CV9040 INF, CV90105 AT Tank, CV90120 Light Tank, CV9040 AA Tank and CV90 AMOS (SSG120).
They are all built on the same chassi so its only the turrets that needs to be modelled different.

I´ll keep you updated on futher developments.....:)

/OmniMowius, Chief in Command, Swedish Armed Forces

Listen upp you all finish people!!!
Finland have never been a country by itself sice the early 1900.AD
Sweden Have ruled there for a very long time!!
And sweden owned allmoast the whole north europe exept Denmark witch whas the only scandinavian country that could stand against Sweden!!! sweden allmoast took denmark to but when Holland and france helped denmark sweden lost!!!

So dont say that finnland shood have there own siv
the only scandinavian countries that deservs it is:
Sweden and Denmark

and by the way make a Ericsson factory for sweden!!!!
Why do you think they speak Swedish in finland!!
it is because SWEEDEN HAS ALLWAYS BEEN THERE!! untill the russians took over!

PS: MAKE a danish and a Swedish siv insted of wasting your time on an finish siv!!!

You sure told them......:D

....and you are so right! We have always been in Finland in some way, and we stood up to them in WW2 against the Russian invasion with great succes!
But I dont wanna talk down on the Fin civ in this thread, we do it somewhere else.:D

well Im one of those swedish speaking persons in Finland and I prefer to play as Finland :) . And well there has allready been a long time a finnish civ for Civ3 :))

Hey Malachai,
didnt notice that you were from Finland, sorry. :D
...and I like your Scandinavian map, and I hope I could use it for a historical Mod about the time Sweden was a north european "superpower".

hehe thanks :)
its there to be used! So just use it as much as you like :)

Great Malachai! Thanx will sure come to use! :goodjob:

* New UNIT for the Swedish Army *

I just found it.


In 1931 two tankettes were bought from Great Britain. It was one Carden-Loyd Mk V Star, and one Carden-Loyd Mk VI. They were bought to be tested as towing vehicles for Bofors new 37mm infantry gun. In the beginning they were known as Traktor nr 52 and Traktor nr 53. During 1935, the tankettes were fitted with a m/14-29 MG and then equipped Göta Livgarde tank battalion under the designation Light tank m/Carden-Loyd. Here they were used as reconnaissance vehicles as they were bound to road travelling. Probably withdrawn from service in 1939, when they were given to the Swedish Army Museum. Both tankettes are preserved at Pansarmuseet at Axvall. The Mk V Star being a unique vehicle, it is the only vehicle of its kind that is left in the world.
Text by Thorleif Olsson

Sween made this unit and it can be found here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23166

...and a lil image of the Swedish Carden-Lloyd Tankette

Now that the JAS 39 Gripen and the JA 37 Viggen is under production I wonder if we are interested in the other SAAB fighters.

Originally posted by OmniMower
Now that the JAS 39 Gripen and the JA 37 Viggen is under production I wonder if we are interested in the other SAAB fighters.

I love that they have "smilie faces" on them! Which emoticon is that one? :confused: :lol:

:lol: :lol: yea, what is that smilie...wait, I have it made for you! :D

K, all my swedish friends out there. We now have a swedish forum at CDG: The Carolean Armory.
Please visit us! :D

http://www.cdgroup.org/forums/tbs/civ3/viewforum.php?f=88

Swedish Weaponry and Units

If you like Swedish weaponry and units, please join me in the Carolean Armory at CDG today!

/Omni

Carhtage & Israel Mod Without taking away any civ's. i call it Civ3+
version 2.0
i've creatd a mod that adds 2 new civs to the game: Carthage and Israel. u don't need PTW for it to work, but my file is pc formatted. i've made m. infantry and modern armor, plus some indusrtial units better. carthage's special unit is the War Elephant, which has an extra attack point(for both carthage and india). did u ever get angry because frigates and ironclads can't upgrade? i set it so that a frigate and man-o-war can go to ironclad, and ironclad turns into battleship. destroyers turn into AEGIS Cruiser (which are better now). swordsman upgrade to rifleman(which have an A.D.M of 5.8.1). impi' are now 1.3.1 instead of 1.2.2. there are other changes. m. infantry and m. armor have doubled values and 2 extra health, but both have 3 movement. radar artillery has an A.D.M. of 0.0.3. israel's "unique" unit is the F-15

Installation Guide:

1)make a backup copy of the file "civ3mod" the default directory is C:\Program Files\Civilization III if the drive isn't C, replace C with it
2)unzip the contents (you need winzip)
3)put the file u just downloaded( also called "civ3mod") into the
C:\Program Files\Civilization III don't put it into any of the subfolders in the main Civilization III folder.

Carhtage & Israel Mod Without taking away any civ's. i call it Civ3+
version 2.0
i've creatd a mod that adds 2 new civs to the game: Carthage and Israel. u don't need PTW for it to work, but my file is pc formatted. i've made m. infantry and modern armor, plus some indusrtial units better. carthage's special unit is the War Elephant, which has an extra attack point(for both carthage and india). did u ever get angry because frigates and ironclads can't upgrade? i set it so that a frigate and man-o-war can go to ironclad, and ironclad turns into battleship. destroyers turn into AEGIS Cruiser (which are better now). swordsman upgrade to rifleman(which have an A.D.M of 5.8.1). impi' are now 1.3.1 instead of 1.2.2. there are other changes. m. infantry and m. armor have doubled values and 2 extra health, but both have 3 movement. radar artillery has an A.D.M. of 0.0.3. israel's "unique" unit is the F-15

Installation Guide:

1)make a backup copy of the file "civ3mod" the default directory is C:\Program Files\Civilization III if the drive isn't C, replace C with it
2)unzip the contents (you need winzip)
3)put the file u just downloaded( also called "civ3mod") into the
C:\Program Files\Civilization III don't put it into any of the subfolders in the main Civilization III folder.


http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36715
sorry if this posted twice.

Ingen har ar svensk? Fan!

Put in the largest naval town of Sweden which was planned by Karl XI:

Karlskrona

Originally posted by Syrus_Knife
Ingen har ar svensk? Fan!
Jo jag :eek:

T: I like your idea, and i'm with whoever said that lonngboats/dragonboats isn't really the swedish signum.



BTW you gotta add Skellefteå (the golden city)

Since a lot of the discussion in this thread is about if a certain city is Swedish, Danish or whatever, I think (IMHO) I might have the solution to this. :)

Since it is Scandinavia and not really Vikings, eventhough units still are vikings, see this as the country that was to become (and evolve from) the Kalmar Union, in 14th and 15th century. It is a nice dream is it not? The oil from Norway, the industries from Sweden and Finland, the food and drink from Denmark, and fish from Iceland.

That would probably make Margareta the leader, since she was a strong force in the making of a union between the old rivals. The UU is still okay I think, they are the typical common scandinavian units.

I do suggest making Kalmar the capital. After all it is a coastal city, which was the only way to travel fairly quickly in those days. It also have the historical value of the coronation in 1397.

The main alternative would be to make Gothenburg the capital. This is not simply because I am from that city, but for more practical reasons.

If the union would have survived the rivalty between Sw. and De. a capital situated along the coast between Oslo and Copenhagen would make sense. Still in Sw (which is the largest country after all) but close to the provincial capitals of De. and No. To place the capital by Göta Älv, therefore linking it to the Väner-region is an obvious advantage.

So as a more logical evolution of the civ, using Gothenburg as the capital is a good idea. That would probably make Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm, Åbo and Reykavik as suitable provincial capitals.

In the case of making a mod for this I guess that a list of cities and leaders would be needed. How about 15 cities from De/No/Ic and 15 from Sw/Fi. Also 5 cultural and 5 military leaders from each halve. I have for historical reasons put them in the two groups since they are closely linked together in this groups. I suggest using names from 1300-1800 AD.

Would anyone from Norway or Denmark give me a suggestion of cities and leaders(yes you may use Lund etc). The final form will probably be an alternative list where a Sw/Fi city (Gothenburg) tops the list, then a De/No/Ic, then a Sw/Fi etc. The same for the leaders lists. Sw/Fi on the top of science, De/No/ic on top of the military leaders list.

Is this a nice way to once and for all unite the scandinavians into one nice civ :)

What do you think about this idea? Please post any suggestions.

I will post my suggestion of the Sw/Fi lists if there is any interest in this solution.

// F

I don't think that it's a good idea to make Kalmarunionen, cause it was more of locked alliance, norway and sweden could do practicly what they wanted inside their boarders, but they had the same "udenrigspolitik" out-of-nation-policy or what it's called....

"Foreign policy".

Well, it was rather less amiable than a locked alliance, I'd say. From the 1430s on they were fighting one another more than outsiders ...

Let the Swedish mod stay Swedish, right? Keep Kalmar Union, Scandinavians and Vikings out of it. Prlease.

Industrious is an obvious trait, but scientific? Isn't militaristic or commercial more appropriate? My fav is religous, but that would not fit with Sweden, would it?

I like the cannon, but the carolin unit with an extra movement makes me drool.

Now, the Bismarch leaderhead picture and the Civilization story need to be replaced...

Animepornstar, where are you!?

i think sweden should have gustav vasa as king.

i also think favorite government should be monarchy, we've almost always had a king, even now when we're democratic state we have are king.

i agree that uu should be caroline. some say drafting was invented by the swedish king with the carolines. they should be strong but mostly cheap.

our traits should be militaristic and perhaps scientific. i dont see any reason to have it indoustrios (?).though in C3C it should be perhaps seafaring. i really hope you update the mod for C3C!

med vänliga häsningar
Samuel, stolt 08 :lol:

Dissagree with Nachos.
THE ruler that we Swedes should have is of course * Birger Jarl * Sweden REALLY started with *HIM* although Gustav Wasa is really important in that he saved Sweden from those early unionists.

We should have had him around at the time of the "Join EU" census.

Originally posted by Nachos
i think sweden should have gustav vasa as king. no king has ever done so much for sweden as gustav vasa. he lead a riot against the danish soldiers (only foreign power ever leading sweden), made sweden an indepentent and strong state again, broke the chains of catholisism and made way for all the coming kings so they could exspand sweden. no king has ever done so much for sweden.

also i think favorite government should be monarchy, we've almost always had a king, even now when we're democratic state we have are king.

i agree that uu should be caroline. some say drafting was invented by the swedish king with the carolines. they should be strong but mostly cheap.

our traits should be militaristic and perhaps scientific. i dont see any reason to have it indoustrios (?).though in C3C it should be perhaps seafaring. i really hope you update the mod for C3C!

med vänliga häsningar
Nachos, stolt 08 :lol:

Hmm.... Vasa you say.... interesting but I dunno yet...

Stolt 08 säger du... har inte ni bytt riktnummer till 18... tihi :P :D

Originally posted by Hakim


Animepornstar, where are you!?

I think you will find him lurking the OT section nowadays ...

Stolt 08 säger du... har inte ni bytt riktnummer till 18... tihi :P

inte vad vag vet. än så länge så ringer vi fortfarande 08

Originally posted by Nachos


inte vad vag vet. än så länge så ringer vi fortfarande 08

:lol: Yeah, I know... I just wanna tease every one in Stockholm with the HUGE loss against Frölunda in the play offs :p :D

Dunno if this mod is still being updated by Anime, but seeing as I've just found this nice forum, and Civ3 again, I'll kick some life in the thread.

Industrious is an obvious trait, but scientific? Isn't militaristic or commercial more appropriate? My fav is religous, but that would not fit with Sweden, would it?

Religious actually seems very appropriate to me. Today it's sometimes hard to remember how deeply the "classic" Swedish values are affected by religion, specifically Lutheran values of working hard, not seizing personal glory, etc. Heck, even low-key interior design from Ikea could be argued to be influenced by Lutheran values of simple austere churches rather than decorated Catholic versions.

Also, Gustavus II Adolphus, beside being a military genious that introduced several military principles that are still in practice today, prior to entering the 30 Years War introduced on of the first (if not the first) typically modern propaganda campaigns. Sponsored by the state, numerous publications were put out detailing how evil the Catholics were (throwing babies on fires and whatnot - the usual), resulting in large-scale support of the war and fervent support of the Lutheran church.

Bit of a rant that perhaps, but anyway...
Stuff like this, plus the fact that most of our changes of government have been VERY calm (ie no "Anarchy"), the religious trait would fit very, very well in my opinion.

Militaristic and Scientific would probably work as well, although one could argue that the Scientific trait only has been around for a couple of hundred years, about from the time the Militaristic one went away!

I like the cannon, but the carolin unit with an extra movement makes me drool.

I agree the Carolean unit is the one to go for, although I think an extra defensive point would be more appropriate perhaps.

Welcome to CFC! :band:

Yes, to some extent Sweden can be considered to be religious. I still don't think the scientific trait is appropriate though. We don't stand out compared to others.

Nah, I want the carolin unit to have a movement bonus, it would make offensive moves quicker.

[QUOTE=Hakim]Welcome to CFC! :band:

Yes, to some extent Sweden can be considered to be religious. I still don't think the scientific trait is appropriate though. We don't stand out compared to others.


We don't? Oh well..

it is actually rather easy. militaristic and seafaring of course.
a very good combination. the highlight of swedish history was when sweden was a great empire ruling the baltic sea. mare nostro... give me a reason why not

I'd love too play Swedes (since I'm one too).
Ad the swedish naval base to the list of cities:
* Karlskrona

And instead of an improved cannon as UU, which we don't have any speciall in the Swedish Armed Forces, add either:
* JAS 39 Gripen
* Korvetten Visby
* Karolinerna
* Ubåtsklassen Gotland (submarine)

As these are unique thing for Sweden which counties are intrested to import from us, except Karolinerna.

JAS 39 are already exported to South Africa, Czech Republic, Polish Armed Forces.
Corvette Visby is the first and only truly functional stealth vessel that has been built more than one of (Visby, Helsingborg, Härnösand, Nyköping and Karlstad)
Submarine Gotland is a conventional submarine that has been praised by almost all other countries around the world as an silent and almost impossible sub to detect on a sonar, that is why we have one in USA right now.

I know a lot of swedish officers that whould love to have this mod if the UU is more realistic for the Swedish people.

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SubLt Seregon
From the Swedish Armed Forces

This mod's pretty dead. animepornstar hasn't been around for ages.