View Full Version : Soccer vs Hockey which is better?


Drewcifer
May 30, 2004, 01:43 AM
The thread on football vs football has inspired me to start this one. Soccer and Ice Hockey seem like very similar games in many ways, more so than Football and Football. They both have similar rules, gripping low scoring games and breathtaking 1-1 ties (draws) that can be great moral victories. Though Soccer likes to pose as the world sport Hockey is loved as much in almost all the nations where the weather allows and I can only think things would be different if western Europe and South America had the same climate as the cold parts of Europe and northern North America. Is it even worth debating? It can be argued that they are both great games.

MrPresident
May 30, 2004, 04:56 AM
Ice hockey is loved where the weather allows because football is incredibly hard to play on ice. Also hockey to me means field hockey.

Suppersalmon
May 30, 2004, 06:52 AM
Football is the better IMO but i have watched some Ice Hockey games and have enjoyed them but the Ice Hockey games are not often shown at times in the Uk when everybody can watch them they are shown at times such as 2AM

De Lorimier
May 30, 2004, 08:45 AM
I prefer Hockey by far because of the speed of the game and the physical aspect of it. Football is great and I also played it growing up but hockey is in my blood.

Now wich one is better? I don't think I can really answer this question as they are not the same at all when it comes to playing experience. But football is a cheap sport to play since all you need is a ball and something to make the nets. Hockey, on the other hand, costs a lot to have the right equipment. All I know is that I prefer hockey.

And I'm tired of people saying Ice Hockey. It's hockey.
If you play it somewhere else than on the ice it then becomes something else: field hockey, street hockey, etc.

Inter4
May 30, 2004, 09:04 AM
They are different. I love Football, but Ice Hockey is great to watch, it's faster and the players get to beat each others! :D (Well, you can also do that in football ;) )

jzsf
May 30, 2004, 09:08 AM
Do you mean american football or REAL football?

Suppersalmon
May 30, 2004, 10:37 AM
Do you mean american football or REAL football?

he used Soccer (Football) so i think he means the real version

Archer 007
May 30, 2004, 11:27 AM
Both are wonderful!

pboily
May 30, 2004, 12:13 PM
I was going to say hockey, hands down... but the way the game is played lately, I don't know: it's hard to get worked up about a regular season game between Minnesota and New Jersey... I do wish we used an ice surface with European dimensions.

At any rate, there is one thing about association football that makes it unbearable in my mind:

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Excerpt from an article by M. Dolla Costa, from the London (Canada) Free Press:

[...]

That said, there's one aspect of soccer that will never sell unless it's dealt with. It's the acting, the rolling around on the pitch after every tackle, every nudge, every incident when two players come together. There's nothing more infuriating than watching millionaire players writhing in supposed pain on the field, holding their heads, legs and various other parts of the body, crying out in pain -- all this in an effort to get their opponent penalized in some way or to waste time.

The near-death player is carried to the sidelines on a stretcher. Suddenly, with a miraculous recovery of Lourdes proportions, the player trots onto the field a minute later, a picture of health.

It has become a joke, an affront to professionalism and an embarrassment to the sport.

[...]
==================

Of course, you get much the same when the Maple Leafs are playing ...

phoenix_night
May 30, 2004, 12:27 PM
Football.

Also hockey to me means field hockey.

Me too.

WillJ
May 30, 2004, 01:07 PM
Soccer, football, or whatever the hell you want to call it is great, but IMO it doesn't compare to the fast-paced fun of hockey, ice hockey, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

Inter4
May 30, 2004, 01:09 PM
Do you mean american football or REAL football?

REAL football of course. Don't insult me, I use ''eggball'' to talk about that other sport. ;)

Esckey
May 30, 2004, 02:21 PM
Isn't "Ice Hockey" abit redundant? Considering how Hockey is played on ice and if it isn;t played on ice then it's refered as "<insert random surface> hockey"


I hate watching Soccer, but love playing it. I enjoy watching and playing hockey. So it's kind of a draw for me. Given a choice between playing soccer, or playing hockey or watching hockey I'll choose to play soccer.

Mr Black
May 30, 2004, 02:34 PM
REAL football of course. Don't insult me, I use ''eggball'' to talk about that other sport. ;)

Does this have to be done in every sports thread. :rolleyes:

MrPresident
May 30, 2004, 02:45 PM
Isn't "Ice Hockey" abit redundant? Considering how Hockey is played on ice and if it isn;t played on ice then it's refered as "<insert random surface> hockey"

You're speaking from an ice-hockey nation's perspective. Where I am there ain't no ice so we play field hockey instead, which we call hockey. We then have to put the ice in ice hockey to distinguish to from what we call hockey. Like it matters anyway since hardly anyone even plays ice hockey. I mean, what else can you do in Canada? Moose-watch?

Dell19
May 30, 2004, 03:09 PM
Does this have to be done in every sports thread. :rolleyes:

Its traditional...

Archer 007
May 30, 2004, 03:32 PM
I mean, what else can you do in Canada? Moose-watch?


Either that or get drunk. :p

WillJ
May 30, 2004, 05:47 PM
Like it matters anyway since hardly anyone even plays ice hockey. I mean, what else can you do in Canada? Moose-watch?Please don't bash moose-watching.

SuperBeaverInc.
May 30, 2004, 06:50 PM
Hockey! Nothing beats hockey!

tonberry
May 30, 2004, 09:41 PM
I like both hockey has such a big tradition here that it's hard to another sport more than hockey.

Shabbaman
May 31, 2004, 05:50 AM
There's nothing more infuriating than watching millionaire players writhing in supposed pain on the field, holding their heads, legs and various other parts of the body, crying out in pain -- all this in an effort to get their opponent penalized in some way or to waste time.

Someone who writes stuff like this clearly never has played a game of football. Besides that, neither does he have any knowledge of the rules.

Ice hockey is a nice game to watch. I like football better though.

joycem10
Jun 02, 2004, 11:49 AM
gripping low scoring games and breathtaking 1-1 ties (draws) that can be great moral victories.

In the glory days of hockey back in the eighties and early nineties you never saw 1-1 games. Back then 5 to 6 goal games were common.

If the NHL would start enforcing the rules to get rid of the clutch and grab/nuetral zone trap defense systems you might see things change.

Hitro
Jun 02, 2004, 12:11 PM
Does this have to be done in every sports thread. :rolleyes:
As long as those threads call football "soccer" in their title, yes.

As for hockey, I'm actually not sure and also don't really care but I guess "field" hockey was the first and original hockey while what the North Americans call hockey is hockey played on ice, thus "ice hockey".

And football is better because it is more transparent and generally more competitive worldwide, but I do think (ice) hockey is one of the few sports that you can at least compare with it.

MCdread
Jun 02, 2004, 01:17 PM
About hockey, ice hockey and field hockey, I just wanna say that there is another hockey, which the one we refer to hockey in this part of the world: roller hockey. It is played in an indoor surface with roller skates by teams of 5 players each and it resembles ice hockey much more than field hockey. It is very fast of course, but the ball is harder to control because it is a ball, not a disk. The best teams in the world come from Portugal, Spain, Italy and Argentina and FC Porto was almost european champion of this too, but we lost the final to FC Barcelona. :(

Phantom Lord
Jun 03, 2004, 02:21 PM
Love them both.

lord_yoshi
Jun 04, 2004, 01:52 AM
Football, then Hockey.

Alone
Jun 09, 2004, 06:53 PM
Both are good.
Or to formulate diferent, I like football and Hockey.

I was first introduced to football so I know much more about that game (from experts side) but when you know something for such a long time you need refreshment. The bigest diference is that I know to play, and often did it in past, football. As for the Hockey I would probably made a big red whole in Ice when fall down (probably straight on head :D :cry: ). But I like to play NHL PC Game (thats my second best pc game after CivIII :) )

And also I like basketball the best... :king:

And you add American Football and you got my favorite 4.

SpartanAres
Jun 09, 2004, 09:29 PM
Soccer requires you to run and kick. Hockey requires you to skate, stickhandle, and fight. While soccer can be played anywhere, hockey as made innovations in allowing for the game to be played on wheels as well called roller hockey. Soccer is passive aggressive. Hockey is pure heart and aggression. Hockey requires a more advaced level of hand-eye coordination than soccer, particularly if you are a goaltender like myself. Hockey is more fun to watch, play, recquires more skill development, and is far greater a sporter than any other competing sports. I hope one day Americans stop watching boring old baseball and start watching hockey instead. Does anyone even know who won Lord Stanley's Cup?

Margim
Jun 09, 2004, 09:43 PM
I prefer soccer - although people are more likely to hurt each other in hockey, I prefer the fact that I can actually see the ball being passed around in soccer.

joycem10
Jun 10, 2004, 07:43 AM
Does anyone even know who won Lord Stanley's Cup?

Tampa Bay, which is a joke.

If they want Americans to watch here are some suggestions:

ENFORCE THE RULES

Get rid of the red line

Play some freaking offense

Get rid of the nuetral zone trap

Call penalties, when deserved, regardless of what period it is or who got the last call

Make touching someone with your stick for any reason a minor or enforce a 2 hands on the stick rule at all time.

Put in a salary cap

Stapel
Jun 10, 2004, 08:10 AM
Ice hockey is loved where the weather allows because football is incredibly hard to play on ice. Also hockey to me means field hockey.

Usually men's field hockey for me too!

But tonight, I will play mixed groucho field hockey during the summer evening competition at The Hague's Country Club 'Green-Yellow' (Hockey, Golf, Cricket).

The club is also known as 'The Hague's Hockey & Weddingmarket Club' ;) .

Stapel
Jun 10, 2004, 08:13 AM
On the subject:

Football!

But I do watch Ice Hockey during olympics.

polymath
Jun 10, 2004, 09:19 AM
Football is better than Hockey (that's football, not Eggby). I used to play Hockey a little. I've never played Ice Hockey though. ;)

Stapel, at school we used to play Hockey with the nearby girl's school every week. Excellent!

WildFire
Jun 10, 2004, 09:33 AM
Hockey > anything

http://www.mestokladno.cz/html/images/stanley_cup_big.jpg

Stapel
Jun 10, 2004, 09:42 AM
Football is better than Hockey (that's football, not Eggby). I used to play Hockey a little. I've never played Ice Hockey though. ;)

Stapel, at school we used to play Hockey with the nearby girl's school every week. Excellent!

A girl's school....... How....British!

Cilpot
Jun 10, 2004, 09:44 AM
Football! (...)

JJP
Jun 10, 2004, 11:12 AM
Both are good. :D

classical_hero
Jun 17, 2004, 04:57 AM
Football is much better.

Rhye
Jun 17, 2004, 06:07 AM
Football is the best for a hundred of reasons, but I'm looking to hockey with interest. I may try Eastside Hockey Manager by SI when it comes out.

Rhye
Jun 17, 2004, 06:16 AM
It's the acting, the rolling around on the pitch after every tackle, every nudge, every incident when two players come together. There's nothing more infuriating than watching millionaire players writhing in supposed pain on the field, holding their heads, legs and various other parts of the body, crying out in pain -- all this in an effort to get their opponent penalized in some way or to waste time.

The near-death player is carried to the sidelines on a stretcher. Suddenly, with a miraculous recovery of Lourdes proportions, the player trots onto the field a minute later, a picture of health.

It has become a joke, an affront to professionalism and an embarrassment to the sport.


Do you remember Rivaldo last WC: he was hit by the ball in the body and faked a blow on the face :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well that can be infuriating if it's the away team who's bluffing, but if you are the away team and much weaker then home team, and you're winning by pure luck, it is very funny....

Akka
Jun 17, 2004, 06:17 AM
I don't know this "soccer" thing :p

Football all the way. I'm not specially a fan of this sport, but it's one of the rare "artificial" ones I find at least mildly interesting to watch.

CenturionV
Jun 24, 2004, 10:58 PM
I don't know this "soccer" thing :p

Football all the way. I'm not specially a fan of this sport, but it's one of the rare "artificial" ones I find at least mildly interesting to watch. Hockey, easy. A real rough, fast hockey game is a thing of beauty, the violence, the roar of the croud as an opponent is crushed into the boards with the possibility of serious injury, the turning tide of a game as its goes from 3-0 to 3-3 in the last 5 minutes (I'm of course thinking back to the epic game between dallas and edmonton, possibly one of the greatest moments in sports history, when edmonton came back to tie the game down 3-0 with 5 minutes left and then win in overtime)

I honestly can't see what people enjoy in soccor (european football) the scores are so low, the chances so few, personally it is the one team sport I will not watch, I enjoy football(american) because of the roughness and because of the speed at which plays occur, Basket ball, as it seems the games are always very close right down to the end, and occasionally there are brilliant plays by single players driving to the net, and baseball for the strategy and planning. However I've always seen hockey as the perfect melding of these into a single sport (though with the current NHL rules I believe that the game has been watered down from its older, more offensive style, some thing we should try for again) Hockey is about the full team package, planning, teamwork, strategy, morale, coahing, managing and training all come together on the ice between two teams doing battle for 60 minutes, a wonderful thing.

I think soccor has one huge advantage over hockey, it is very easy to play with only basic materials. At the very least for a decent street hockey game you need stick for all the players, nets and padding (at least for the goalies) are extremely helpfull, and usually a large flat space without any grass (like concrete)

Soccor can be played in any large feild, with only a ball as equippment, and possibly a net. This makes it a far far more accesible game to all nations, worldwide.

Drewcifer
Jun 25, 2004, 02:24 AM
I prefer soccer - although people are more likely to hurt each other in hockey, I prefer the fact that I can actually see the ball being passed around in soccer.Once you get acclimated to the game the puck is almost as easy to follow, even more so in person which is part of what makes it a great game to see live and in person. In terms of live experience and action the only North American sport that compares is basketball. I grew up watching Clinton Comets semi-pro games and the local high school powerhouse in the hometown arena and also playing mites, perhaps watching the live game or being involved in it makes it easier to watch on TV. I do think that in watching it live verses on TV hockey loses more than any other major sport.

eq1
Jun 28, 2004, 01:41 PM
Well,
I grew up in Canada and am completely obsessed with hockey. I try as best as possible to follow it, but that is not always possible. I now live in Holland and so I get to see, hear, smell, feel the football mentality.

I will always like hockey better, but I think that football is probably the better sport. It's so simple. You only need a ball and a little bit of space - as opposed to a stick, puck, padding, helmet, a rink to play, on etc. Also, to those that think there aren't enough chances to score, I advise wathcing more closely. However, I will never understand how people can miss a net that is so big so often.

The biggest drawback to football, however, is that so many people lie around faking injury. It actually makes me scream at the t.v. people getting paid so much to play football should play football and stop trying to act.

The biggest drawback to hockey is rules. I was back in canada last winter and brought my (dutch) girlfriend to a game. She absolutely loved it, however, she had no idea what was going on and why the stopped the game so much (never mind explaining a t.v. time out). With football, you don't need to know anything before watching.

And at anyrate, rugby is better than both of them. :)

downtown
Jun 28, 2004, 01:53 PM
I love to play football. You can play anywhere, and any person who is in good shape can play. I Played for several years here in the states. (being a futbol keeper is a blast)
that being said, football is boring to watch for me. I would much more prefer to see a hockey game on TV ('specially now that my team, the Tampa Bay lightning, is finally good. The local team, The Columbus Blue Jackets, are pretty much a disgrace to the NHL. If we didnt have RIck Nash, I dunno what we'd do)
in conclusion-to watch-hocket
to play- futbol, football, soccer, whatver you guys call it

Serutan
Jun 28, 2004, 09:47 PM
Australian Rules Football is the best...

I prefer (round) football to ice hockey. International ice hockey if fun
to watch, though. I detest the NHL, since they don't play hockey, but
just beat each other to a pulp via continual fighting.

Vasileius
Jul 07, 2004, 07:30 AM
As you can understand , in a city that the lower temp. at Christmas was 10 oC Ice Hockey is science fiction . A Greek hockey team ? Its like the movie "Cool Runnings" with the Jamaican bobsled team of the '88 Winter Olympics ... :dubious: :banana: :bounce: :lol:


Anyway , football is the most popular sport around the world , and so it is the best ...

*soccer = sport played with feet
football = sport played with hands
handball = sport played with soccs (!) :crazyeye:

raen
Jul 07, 2004, 07:55 AM
Football and ROLLER HOCKEY ;)

BCLG100
Jul 07, 2004, 03:53 PM
having not played ice hockey i had to base my ideas on field hockey and computer games, both of which i found very boring. also

football is football.

china444
Jul 14, 2004, 10:11 PM
Hockey.

Definitely.

Shabbaman
Jul 15, 2004, 05:12 AM
It's always nice when people post such insightful reasonings :rolleyes:

Rhye
Jul 22, 2004, 06:28 PM
QUOTE=CenturionV]I honestly can't see what people enjoy in soccor (european football) the scores are so low[/QUOTE]

And so?

Mr Black
Jul 22, 2004, 09:59 PM
............
football is football.

unless it's football

regen2ndx
Jul 23, 2004, 02:32 PM
vote: football.

Kyborgi
Jul 23, 2004, 03:28 PM
I'm not much into spectator sports (if motorsports do not count) but soccer is so much more fun to play than hockey do I voted for it. If I ever watch those on tv, I must say finnish hockey is more entertaining than finnish football. International matches and english football are fun to watch tho.

Rita Poon
Jul 23, 2004, 04:03 PM
Hockey is a rich boy's sport.

Soccer is a rich girl's sport.

Shabbaman
Jul 23, 2004, 04:11 PM
Superbly motivated :rolleyes: