He hasnt said exactly why yet, but hes done it. And the owner, Mitch Kupcheck, said he wouldnt like to do it but he would do it if Shaq requested it, and he has.

In other NBA News:

- Phil Jackson has officially left his job as the Lakers head coach
- Kobe Bryant has decided to opt out of his contract and test the free agent waters

- Tracy McGrady has told the Magic that he would like to be traded.

So next year the Lakers will have neither Shaq, Kobe, or Phil Jackson?

:lol: nice. Time for the Pistons to start a dynasty.

You can bet the Lakers will throw the farm at Kobe if Shaq is traded. They will not let both of them go.

the lakers are breaking up?? YES!!!
All we need know is for the Yankees to fold up, and all will be will again with American Sports

You know as long as Steinbrenner is alive that that isnt happening, they could just literally go out and buy another top 5 team :p

You know as long as Steinbrenner is alive

forgive my ignorance, he is really the president of the Yankees? thought it was only in Seinfeld :blush: what did he say to the show?

LOL, I dont think he minded. He loves attention and himself.

I cant blame the guy for trying to improve his team, although I dont like the methods.

Jackson is going, so Shaq is going..

Jackson is going, so Shaq is going..

best thing--a kobe/shaq team with no help was going nowhere. orlando has offered j. howard, g. hill and the # 1 pick already. indiania and dallas have offers too

n.1 pick at the draft?..they are nuts..

n.1 pick at the draft?..they are nuts..

macgrady is leaving--but if shaq comes he stays--and a team that missed the playoffs moves up several notches, drawns fans,ect.....

mcgrady and shaq is better than Kobe and Shaq, considering Mcgrady isnt nearly as selfish.

And where are you hearing the trade offer rumors? I wanna hear em too :p

Shaq can't go to Orlando. Magic would have trouble piece together a 8-man roster next year. But Tracy announce the same thing on the same day does smell fishy.

I still think Tracy come to Houston though. :) for some non-self-interest reasons.

Look at Dallas.

1. They have a deep talent pool and would be willing to part with anyone but Nowitzki, and even he might be expendable if the amount is right.

2. Mark Cuban. Hes not afraid to pull the trigger on a huge deal, and loves only to see his team succeed. Hes not stupid either.

Thats why Im picking Dallas in the Shaq trade, but they may decide that despite the fact that Dallas has the most to give, they dont want Shaq in the West.

And McGrady might come to Houston, there have been rumors. Its definately in his top 3 choices.

any trade will most likely have to be a 3 team deal to make the money come out right

As long as Shaq doesn't end up with an Eastern powerhouse, I'm happy.

As long as Shaq doesn't end up with an Eastern powerhouse, I'm happy.

well i think the lakers would rather send him east ,then keep him in conference

I'm thinking Dallas, too. They have many high-caliber players to offer, and they could desperately use Shaq's defensive skills, and it gives them a powerful inside man. I think they should trade Walker and Nowitzki, and however many picks it takes. Walker is useless, I hate him. Jamison should have been the starter last year.

i believe dallas said nash & nowitzki were untouchable

Remember, Shaq still owns a home in Orlando. Also, I thought Florida had no income tax? Sounds like a nice place to live if you're pulling down a couple mil a year
Dallas and Indina sound like likely choices. Sacramento, Orlando, NY and Phoniex will likely make plays too, although they arent as likely.
Id of course love to see Shaq in Cleveland with Lebron, but the cavs dont have the dough

Sacramento? Never, the Lakers would never give Shaq to thier archnemesis.

Orlando doesnt have enough to give.

It's a shame the Spurs don't have the assets to trade for Shaq, 'cause I'd love to see Shaq play alongside Tim Duncan.
Considering the Lakers probably won't trade Shaq to a Western conference team, I will probably be dissappointed... ;)

Why would the Spurs need Shaq? They already have one of the leagues best post players in Duncan.

What they need is a better scorer like Kenyon Martin, or even if they could somehow manage it, Kobe Bryant.

Remember, they were extremely close to getting Jason Kidd. They have some cash to spend.

yeah, the spurs dont really need Shaq, unless they wanted him to play power forward.
That would be daunting to face...
Orlando has teh number 1 pick in the draft, which would really help the lakers...but thats about it.
I think LA Needs to accept that it isnt going to win it all next year, and deal for whoever can give them the best young talent...come back in 3 years, with a more mature kobe (providing he isnt in jail), and take back the NBA.
If the kings can offer a good deal (which I think they really can, LA would be stupid not to take it.
The only teams in the east that have a shot are Indina and New York.

here's an idea..Trade him to the bobcats!

Shaq would make the Bobcats a force early. They could also trade the #4
pick for him. Since none of the first 5 or 6 are that much better than the
others, it would be just as good as say getting the #1 from Magic. I just
don't know if that is the direction the Bobcats want to take, they may want
to start young and grow together.

I was actually kiding. The Bobcats have no money, and no marketable talent right now. Every Expansion team will want at least one big name player..but SHaq? not gonna happen.

it'd make me laugh tho

how bout shaq for iverson? :crazyeye:

it would never happen but all they talk about in philly/south jersey is how or when AI will get traded. that little dude has a ton of heart.

not sure if anyone knows this or even cares but the steinbrenner character on seinfeld is played by Larry David (seinfeld creator and of hbo fame)

the lakers have announce that they are NOT trading shaq, so is kobe gone?

how bout shaq for iverson? :crazyeye:

it would never happen but all they talk about in philly/south jersey is how or when AI will get traded. that little dude has a ton of heart.

not sure if anyone knows this or even cares but the steinbrenner character on seinfeld is played by Larry David (seinfeld creator and of hbo fame)

In Toronto, they're talking (at least, the few people who care, I'll try to find the article) about Vinsanity for A.I.... can't imagine Iverson moving to Canada. It would be a good move for the Raptors and a dreadful one for the Sixers...

The Lakers still intend on trading Shaq if thier are offers....I dont know where your hearing that the deal is off.

I heard from espn that the shaq trade was odd, now back on.
Shaq wants to go to Dallas
Dallas wants Shaq to go to Dallas
LA wants Dirk, or Shaq doesnt go to Dallas
Dallas says, no thank you, we'd rather send Steve Nash and some other players for Shaq
The Clippers want to be a player in a three team deal to make the salaries line up
...
the saga goes on

Nowitzki for Shaq?!?! As a Dallas' fan: NO THANKS!

I think Dallas has said they would not go for that and I don't blame them.

I heard a rumor of Webber & Stoy. for Shack :eek: , what do you guys
think?

Man, i like Webber, I really do. But hes choked so many times in important situations (time out debacle, missing the free throws in Game 7 against the Lakers, in and out 3 against T'Wolves this year). Why would the Lakers want him?

Stojakovic on the other hand....he was 4th I think in MVP voting, a very good shooter, and about 26 I think. Hes worth something.

But like I said, the Lakers wont trade Shaq to the Kings.

In Toronto, they're talking (at least, the few people who care, I'll try to find the article) about Vinsanity for A.I.... can't imagine Iverson moving to Canada. It would be a good move for the Raptors and a dreadful one for the Sixers...

No, that would be a bad move for the Raptors

The Raptors most important goal for next season is to develop Chris Bosh's inside game, and that is definately not a possibility with a notorious ball-hog like Iverson demanding the ball all the time.

AI's a great player, but to win championships (which, I imagine, is the Raptors ultimate goal ;) ) you need a talented/dominant big man and Bosh can be that man for the Raptors. He just needs playing time and the ball in his hands, and the second part is more likely with Carter as a teammate as opposed to Iverson...

Man, i like Webber, I really do. But hes choked so many times in important situations (time out debacle, missing the free throws in Game 7 against the Lakers, in and out 3 against T'Wolves this year). Why would the Lakers want him?

Stojakovic on the other hand....he was 4th I think in MVP voting, a very good shooter, and about 26 I think. Hes worth something.

But like I said, the Lakers wont trade Shaq to the Kings.

I feel like going to Dallas is just about the same as going to Sac. Both West!

The time out debacle was one of my favorite college basketball moments :D
:lol: of all time. I will never forget the look on his face afterwards :twitch: :wow: :shakehead , plus I was pulling so hard for UNC.

Other Shaq Rumors...
NJ-Keyon Martan, Kittles, cash-Shaq

Indina- Al Harington, draft pick, other player I cant remember,-Shaq

Cleveland (???)-Boozer, 10th pick in the draft, Williams-Shaq (hahaha, like this would happen)

I hope Dallas doesnt trade Dirk, he's one of my favorite players. CUban is a smart man...if there is a trade to be made here...he can get it done.

If NJ gets Shaq and keeps Kidd, they might be the new team to beat

The Lakers still intend on trading Shaq if thier are offers....I dont know where your hearing that the deal is off.

mitch kupchek the laker gm went on l.a. radio show and said that. as far as dallas, you hear dallas saying dirk is untouchable or close to untouchable--you do not here the lakers saying anything

mitch kupchek the laker gm went on l.a. radio show and said that. as far as dallas, you hear dallas saying dirk is untouchable or close to untouchable--you do not here the lakers saying anythingIf I were LA I would trade Shaq for Dirk in a second, it could make it easier to resign Kobe and you would only be a piece or a bench away from being a championship caliber team. For the life of me though I can't understand why Dallas would want to do the deal though, Dirk hasn't reached his prime yet while Shaq only has a few more years left. You would have to be confident that Shaq could get you the title this year or next and I don't think that is the case. He is an old 32. I see him playing in the east, most blockbuster trades are between conferences these days.

Shaq gives you the best chance to win now. And with Cuban as an owner, the Mavs would be rebuilt the season after Shaq left or retired anyway.

Atleast as a Mavs fan you know that Cuban wont let the team fall into the pits, not without a fight :p

And they just traded for Devin Harris and Pavel Podkolzine. Which means that Nash would likely be resigned and included in a package to try and get shaq.

Although I would hate to see Nowitzki in a Lakers uniform....that would almost make me have a chance of remotely considering the possibility of not hating them :p

What is the latest rumors on Shaq being traded? What about T-Mac- Is he
still on the way to Houston? :scan: :confused:

Most likely. Phoenix is all but out of the running, and the only other team is Indiana and I havnt heard anything on a deal with them.

T-Mac isnt going anywhere for at least a week, according to the magic. They are looking hard at phoniex and indina again, due to their fears they might not be able to keep francis.
As far as Shaq, i think Dallas will now offer Nash, the 5th pick in the draft (forgot who that was) for Shaq. sounds like a good trade to me.
20 out of the 30 teams in the nba suggested a trade for shaq. I wonder who didnt?
Rumor has it that Memphis has stepped up their offer...they want shaq too, but its much less likely.

Dallas is sending Nash & 5th pick :eek: ---What about Dirk?

Could not Orlando get Francis and trade him elsewhere for someone that
does want to play for them? It seems some other teams could really use him.

t-mac trade is only hold till mid july because francis has a clause that kicks in then, so there waiting

Dallas is sending Nash & 5th pick :eek: ---What about Dirk?

Could not Orlando get Francis and trade him elsewhere for someone that
does want to play for them? It seems some other teams could really use him.
Dallas said they want to keep dirk. I dont blame them. A dirk and Shaq low post combo makes them the most dangerous team down low in the league. They wont want to give up on him
I think dallas might include another player in that deal, to help with the salaries.
with all this trade stuff, Im starting to get into basketball again!

shaq makes 28 million, it will be nash, the pick and about 2 others guys, i think you have to have the salaries within 15% of each other

Stackhouse? Walker?

Dallas is nuts....Nash + 5th pick?!?! No way! :mad:

Dallas is nuts....Nash + 5th pick?!?! No way! :mad:

lakers don't want nash anyway--he's trade bait. pheonix wants him bad, if l.a. gets him they will trade him ( i think the suns were offering marion and johnson ) hence l.a. sents shaq to dallas fore 3 bodies and then nash to suns for 2= 2 for 5. acourse this all changes tomorrow :lol:

I'm hearing now of possible: Shaq not leaving, Shaq/T-mac (Shaq still has a
house in Orlando), LA-Houston-Orlando ??? What do you guys hear :confused: :scan: ?

Im hearing that Shaq is going to most likely the Mavs, Nets, Pacers, or even the Sacramento Kings.

I'm hearing now of possible: Shaq not leaving, Shaq/T-mac (Shaq still has a
house in Orlando), LA-Houston-Orlando ??? What do you guys hear :confused: :scan: ?


alot of this is due to contracts--the t-mac trade is on hold till a clause in steve francis contract kicks in in july, same with steve nash. shaq needs to keep his mouth shut, he's his own worst enemy. when this started with him demanding a trade 10 teams came up with weak offers, then the lakers said he wasn't on the block and all those offers died execpt dallas which upped its offer. now his talking sh*t again, does he understand, that the harder he makes it on l.a. the longer other teams will wait, hoping to get him at the lowest price. if he would just shut up he might be traded already.

He doesnt care what happens to the Lakers though, he knows he'll get his extension and money.

Look like it's going to be MIAMI HEAT at the end!?

I'm not suprised, you never make a blockbuster trade within your own conference; if you want to win the title you never make another team you might be facing in the conference finals better. This trade is good for everybody in the west exept the Lakers and Shaq. I don't see either winning the finals next year. Actually if Shaq is happier leaving the Lakers it is probably good for him personally. Probably it will make Miami a power in the east but I don't see it being enough to win the whole thing. If they add a few more pieces it could be another story...

Yep It's miami for grant butler and odom and a pick

As I heared Carter will leave Raptors....how posible is that his join Miami also!? does he have house on Florida too. It would be exelent team in that case, but don't belive it would work at all, as I heared that Carter has very "wierd" character, so it'll be "deja vu" from LAL Kobe-Shaq.

Steve Nesh rejoined Suns.

Whats with Bryant? (O yeah, he'll spend next season on safer place, maybe ;) ).

@ Drew Yes, this trade open the door for TWolfes in next Western C. season (with Kings and San Antonio on the run) allthough we don't know how all the teams will look like.
+ East -more equal to- West :goodjob:

I heard on news last night that Carter probably will stay as nobody (Knicks for
instance) have anyone available that would fill up Toronto's arena and that
is what they are demanding.

Shaq makes Miami an instant contender with up-in-coming D. Wade :scan: .
But Lakers got a pretty good deal out of it, especially the 1st round pick.

It blows my mind all this talk of Kobe, He is on TRIAL for sexual assault :confused: . Yet nobody hardly speaks of this as they talk instead of giving him millions of dollars and he may not can even play :eek: . What
is up with that, are they suffering from denial???

I heard on news last night that Carter probably will stay as nobody (Knicks for
instance) have anyone available that would fill up Toronto's arena and that
is what they are demanding.

Shaq makes Miami an instant contender with up-in-coming D. Wade :scan: .
But Lakers got a pretty good deal out of it, especially the 1st round pick.

It blows my mind all this talk of Kobe, He is on TRIAL for sexual assault :confused: . Yet nobody hardly speaks of this as they talk instead of giving him millions of dollars and he may not can even play :eek: . What
is up with that, are they suffering from denial???
Maybe THEY know what we don't. :scan: That he will be free of charge :(

Maybe THEY know what we don't. :scan: That he will be free of charge :(

You are probably right. :thumbdown :twitch: :shakehead :gripe:

as i understand it, in the nba a contract is void if he goes to jail--he will not get paided.

in the shaq trade both got hosed, miami made the conferance semi finals last year, now they trade 3 starters off that team. will they go farther with only shaq and wade? the lakers got 3 small forwards to go with kobe and payton, in the west, land of the big men. makes l.a. a version of the dallas mav's--lots of points, nice record, no playoff sucess :(

I don't think Miami got hosed, even Pat Riley said their team was "improved"
and now was a finals contender with Shaq. Shaq is a force, even Larry
Brown said he did not have any idea how to stop him before the finals this
year- everything just seemed to work out for the Pistons. I think he is
motivated, will be in good shape and will be out to prove a point or two :eek: .

Shaq is a one of a kind player, most dominate of his age. And its Eddie Jones, Wade, and Shaq. A great shooter, a great young slasher/shooter, and a dominating center.

I smell Eastern Conferance Finals destination for the Heat!

Shaq is a one of a kind player, most dominate of his age. And its Eddie Jones, Wade, and Shaq. A great shooter, a great young slasher/shooter, and a dominating center.

I smell Eastern Conferance Finals destination for the Heat!


I am smelling the same thing ;) :D .

I think he is
motivated, will be in good shape and will be out to prove a point or two :eek: .

very important, in 1993 shaq weighted 308, now 388! and eddie jones best years are way behind him. i see them like last years lakers, 2 stars with little or no supporting cast.

miami's current roster;

shaq
e.jones--only 3 who started for a team last year
d.wade

m. doleac
m.allen
z.wang--backups who didn't avg. double figures in pts or rebounds
u.haslem
r.butler

m.freije
a.miralles--this years draft picks
d.wreight

Eddie Jones was the Heats leading scorer last year. And hes still a terrific perimiter shooter, he wont be asked to slash and make his own shot very much.

Plus, theres always the FA that will come for cheap because of Shaq.

Plus, theres always the FA that will come for cheap because of Shaq.

well the salary cap is 43 million and shaq makes 28.7 and wants over 30 next year, jones makes 13 million, wade 3 million--they better come cheap :D

Udonis Haslem showed some skills last season as a rookie, so maybe he can do some things as Shaq's sidekick in the frontcourt. Doleac is a servicable backup center. Butler also shows promise. So the Heat have some players besides Shaq, Wade and Jones.

@azale and dgfred: that all depends on Shaq staying healthy and age (and overweight) do not exactly give a positive contribution to staying healthy

Look at the Conferance and Division hes playing against. Really, only the Pacers and Pistons might be able to slow Shaq down.

The Heat are in a division with the Magic, Hawks, Bobcats, Wizards. Not very frightening. Plus, no real big men to challenge Shaq.

very important, in 1993 shaq weighted 308, now 388! and eddie jones best years are way behind him. i see them like last years lakers, 2 stars with little or no supporting cast.

miami's current roster;

shaq
e.jones--only 3 who started for a team last year
d.wade

m. doleac
m.allen
z.wang--backups who didn't avg. double figures in pts or rebounds
u.haslem
r.butler

m.freije
a.miralles--this years draft picks
d.wreight

This is how I see the Heat:

SHAQ- Extremely MOTIVATED and INSHAPE :wow:

d. wade- slasher, scorer
e. jones- great shooter from perimeter
the rest........

This should be PLENTY!!! :scan:

This is how I see the Heat:

SHAQ- Extremely MOTIVATED and INSHAPE :wow:

d. wade- slasher, scorer
e. jones- great shooter from perimeter
the rest........

This should be PLENTY!!! :scan:

jones--.370% 3-pt shooter
wade--.300%
team--.357%

they need a shooter to protect shaq or he will be double and triple teamed. i think the kid freije is a shooter--he may get a lot of time early on

jones was a leading 4-pointer, thats actually a pretty good 3 average

I give Shaq 1 good "revenge" season. Even if he does whip himself into shape before
the season starts, all those years of letting himself go to pot during the summer
are already starting to catch up to him (look at his time on the injured list lately).
After this season, I wouldn't be shocked if there's a steep dropoff for him.

the risk with Shaq is that if he misses any time, which is a very real possibility, the heat are toast.... Wade is the only other talent (Eddie Jones is soft).. of course, when it comes to renewing his contract, Shaq's gonna want 30 million a year too... the biggest plus for the heat are the tickets they will sell - Shaq will make them money, though he's gonna want most of it back in his salary
If he stays healthy, it's a great deal... if he gets hurt, basketballwise, the Heat are screwed...

Kobe won't receive any money from his contract if he's convicted...