I use Firefox.

The one and only internet explorer...

AOL comes with it's own browser so I use that. And AOL requires IE. :rolleyes: But I do have Mozilla installed on my computer.

firefox (ten charecters mmm chocolate cake)

Firefox 0.9 user right here. Love the tabs, love the pop-up blocking, and love the proper .png support.

Firefox, even though the 0.9version is a little buggy, it has a whole lot features than IE

This is for those people who use IE:

Go to http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch
Search for "internet explorer" and select "Bugtraq" from the drop-down box. You can find over 300 entries with that when searching in headlines only.

That means there are maybe up to 100 different exploits in different versions of IE, some of which can probably format your hard drives when you visit web pages. So, I would seriously advice you people to change your browser software.

Firefox thanks to you Gogf ... I got a new skin for it too that's pretty frigin sweet. It seems to run a lot more smooth that IE.

The one and only internet explorer...

No, I do, unfortunatly... :rolleyes:

This is for those people who use IE:

Go to http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch
Search for "internet explorer" and select "Bugtraq" from the drop-down box. You can find over 300 entries with that when searching in headlines only.

That means there are maybe up to 100 different exploits in different versions of IE, some of which can probably format your hard drives when you visit web pages. So, I would seriously advice you people to change your browser software.
Notice that when you type in firefox and search the same way you only get 8 bugs, 2 or 3 of which aren't even related to firefox at all!

Firefox 0.9.

I have converted 4 IE users to Firefox. Yay :)

No, I do, unfortunatly... :rolleyes:

Then why don't you change if you don't like it?

Firefox 0.9 on this computer, and Internet Explorer 6 on the other one.

Then why don't you change if you don't like it?

Read my sig.
Second youngest acive poster at CFC.
I can't install that stuff, only Civ.
Unless... :mischief:

Why can't you install a new browser?

Dell, where can I do this? :confused: :mischief:

Search for one of the browsers, download it and then use it. Assuming you are allowed to...

www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

@LLXerxes
in case plexus's instructions weren't detailed enough, after u go to the link he provided you with you click "down load now" (although you already knew that)
after you have downloaded it and saved it to wherever, you go into that file and doubleclick on the icon that says something like "firefox setup" after that its all you ;) ( the install will begin and its rather self explanatory)

I think his parents wont let him download stuff.

Firefox 0.9

Opera 7.51, Build 3798

Firefox. Even in beta it beats any other browser around.

LLXerxes, if your parents won't let you download stuff, and you alone can't convice them to let you download Firefox, have them look at this thread, and everyone here will tell them how good Firefox is. And if that doesn't work, call social services, your parents forcing you to use Internet Explorer sounds like child abuse to me. ;) ;) ;)

1. This needs to be a multiple poll since some of us use more than one browser (developers especially).

2. None of those browers is necessarily any more secure than Internet Explorer - the same as Linux distros not being any more secure than Windows. It just so happens that the most widely used browser gets the most attacks for exactly that reason: It's the most used browser. This is also the reason there are constant updates to patch these holes in the software. I'm not saying IE is the best, but I'm not saying it's the worst either. Just there's a lot of bias against it.

IE (6.0). I don't have any problems with it. :)

IE (6.0). I don't have any problems with it. :)
Not until some viruses or spyware destroy your operating system. :vomit:

These are from SecurityFocus (http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch):
Self-Executing HTML: Internet Explorer 5.5 and 6.0 Part IV

Flooding Internet Explorer 6.0.2800 (6.x?) security zones ! [CRITICAL]

Crash in Internet Explorer 6.0 Sp1

Exploit/DoS in MS Internet Explorer 6.0 (OBJECT Tag)

1. This needs to be a multiple poll since some of us use more than one browser (developers especially).

I meant as your primary browser. Sorry for not being clear.

Not until some viruses or spyware destroy your operating system. :vomit:

Yeah, I found out the hard way. (It wasn't really my fault though)

I recently started using Mozilla. Now, thanks to Plexus, I am downloading Firefox.

I use the original, regular, heavy-as-hell, CPU-intensive, resource-sucking Mozilla.

I love it. :P

lynx when I'm logged in via a shell, mozilla or firefox when I'm logged in via a gui.

Where's the option for Lynx?

OK, I now use Mozilla! :D [party]

Where's the option for Lynx?

That would be the other option...

I'm going to try Firefox
iedit:Interesting, I like the popup blocker, but the look just isnt the same

I'm going to try Firefox
Try it, you'll love it!

I've tried Firefox. No thanks. I could probably get used to it, but I'll stick with my Opera (currently v7.51, build 3798). ;)

Padma, it takes a week or so, but its worth it.

Archer: I used it exclusively for two weeks. ;)

It's not a bad browser. I just prefer Opera. :)

Opera 7.51, Build 3798

same here, I love it :love:

Padma, it takes a week or so, but its worth it.

what does firefox offer, that opera doesn't ?

what does firefox offer, that opera doesn't ?
# It is not integrated with Windows, which helps prevent viruses and hackers from causing damage if they somehow manage to compromise Firefox.
# There is no support for VBScript and ActiveX, two technologies which are the reasons for many IE security holes.
# No spyware/adware software can automatically install in Firefox just by visiting a web site.
# Firefox doesn't use Microsoft's Java VM, which has a history of more flaws than other Java VMs.
# You have complete control over cookies.

It has those security measures plus tons of themes and extensions that are awesome! See the link in my sig for details.

# It is not integrated with Windows, which helps prevent viruses and hackers from causing damage if they somehow manage to compromise Firefox.
# There is no support for VBScript and ActiveX, two technologies which are the reasons for many IE security holes.
# No spyware/adware software can automatically install in Firefox just by visiting a web site.
# Firefox doesn't use Microsoft's Java VM, which has a history of more flaws than other Java VMs.
# You have complete control over cookies.

It has those security measures plus tons of themes and extensions that are awesome! See the link in my sig for details.

aehem, if you read my post again, I was talking about Opera not IE.

aehem, if you read my post again, I was talking about Opera not IE.
Yes, but does opera have those security features as well as the themes and extension? Come to think of it, Firefox has a cooler name than opera. ;)

Well, Opera vs. Firefox...

To be honest, I've never really used Opera, or even firefox... I'm still with full Mozilla...

Anyways, the big thing to most people is no ads on Firefox... Also, there are, as aforementioned by shadowdude, many more themes & extensions, and more are always coming. Firefox is a lot lmore modifyable, if you will, because it's mostly Open-Source, thus alllowing people to edit it, fix it, and make plugins as well.

Firefox. Even in beta it beats any other browser around.

Too true, too true. :D

I just tried to download something on firefox, it was wierd. and i dont have flash Ive decided to use firefox only sometimes

afaik opera is just as safe as firefox. I can enable/disable JavaScript, Cookies, etc and it uses the SUN JRE. The only thing is the ads but with a decent screen resolution you will hardly notice it.

and it got themes as well

Opera offers these things over Firefox:

1. You don't have to download a ton of extensions (Opera has a lot of features intergrated into its download, rather than have to download the features)

2. Far smaller than Firefox (0.8 had a 6.9MB download; 0.9 has a 4.9MB download) comapred to Opera's 3.4MB. Of course, Opera also has its mail client, newsreader, and IRC intergrated into that download. If you wanted those features you would either have to download regular Mozilla (11.9MB) or Thunderbird (6.0MB)

3. A lot more customizable options (at least with the installer download; dunno about using a thousand add-ons). 7.51, for example, allows you to have panels on the sides or on the top, and a LOT more buttons to change around than Firefox (Firefox only has the simple cut copy paste and add tab and stuff)

4. Options. Pipelining isn't enabled by default in Firefox, and it was a pain to have to change the options. I can also set "Check images" to never, and it saves a lot more loading time than Firefox does (I haven't seen a specialized cache disable options menu).

Firefox 0.9.1 with a ton of extensions.

Would it be possible to get a couple of screenies of each browser. This may sound shallow, but when several options offer basic functionality, I tend to go with look... I'm sure most people do as well, and I think it would be an interesting comparison for those of us who have been considering getting rid of IE but have never made the leap...

Tal

Would it be possible to get a couple of screenies of each browser. This may sound shallow, but when several options offer basic functionality, I tend to go with look... I'm sure most people do as well, and I think it would be an interesting comparison for those of us who have been considering getting rid of IE but have never made the leap...

Tal
Firefox has several different ways it can look because you can install several different themes. (currently 31 themes, and new ones are always on the way)

Firefox has several different ways it can look because you can install several different themes. (currently 31 themes, and new ones are always on the way)
Not to mention that you can move the toolbars however you want - to the bottom, to the side, where you want. Opera, for example, comes with a default side panel bar, but I could remove it to the arrangement that I like. I've seen people who have the tabs at the bottom in Firefox.

Opera, I'm a big fan of it. I've even converted a number of friends to it.

I combine both Internet Explorer (which evidently sucks) and Firefox (which rock my socks off).
I still use Internet Explorer is used because Firefox sometimes dislike webpages designed for Internet Explorer.
I mainly use Firefox because it is more stable and oddly smoother.
Oh and this thrend actually converted me to a Firefox user.

what does firefox offer, that opera doesn't ?

Its free :)

I use Firefox .8 and see no reason to upgrade :)



I used IE for 7 years and never had a single 'security' problem ever, i dont know what all the fuss is about*, all it takes is a little common sense. I ditched IE because its a crap product, not because of security flaws that are easily avoidable.

* Nope, I dont want an explanation, Ive heard it before at least 147,254,722 times and it was boring the 3rd time.

Its free :)

I use Firefox .8 and see no reason to upgrade :)

I used IE for 7 years and never had a single 'security' problem ever, i dont know what all the fuss is about*, all it takes is a little common sense. I ditched IE because its a crap product, not because of security flaws that are easily avoidable.

* Nope, I dont want an explanation, Ive heard it before at least 147,254,722 times and it was boring the 3rd time.

First of all, all Opera has is one banner ad at the top. I have seen page ads that are much more annoying than Opera's single ad banner. Whole pages that have 5-6 ads that all flash and blink, that disrupt my reading (when I'm reading news articles), and can make me sick.

If you chose to be ignorant...so be it. But go to some cracks sites...and you'll see how insecure it is.

And Firefox has zero banner ads at the top and better adblocking. :D

Not to mention that you can move the toolbars however you want - to the bottom, to the side, where you want. Opera, for example, comes with a default side panel bar, but I could remove it to the arrangement that I like. I've seen people who have the tabs at the bottom in Firefox.
Indeed, I can't get the tabs or toolbars to move in firefox.

BTW helpful sig hbd

First of all, all Opera has is one banner ad at the top. I have seen page ads that are much more annoying than Opera's single ad banner. Whole pages that have 5-6 ads that all flash and blink, that disrupt my reading (when I'm reading news articles), and can make me sick.

Huh? I never said anything about adverts, Firefox is free, Opera isnt. But since you mention it, what do adverts on webpages have to do with it, they appear in any browser.

If you chose to be ignorant...so be it.

Ignorant to what? Opera? How can someone who has tried, albeit the free version of Opera, and chose Firebird instead by personal taste be ignorant?

If you chose to make aspertions as to ones character without knowing the person in the first place... so be it :rolleyes:

But go to some cracks sites...and you'll see how insecure it is.

I have no need to go anywhere to know about legacy browsers thanks. New browser versions can be a bit of minefield mind you, like with Firebird 0.9rc and its problems with opening a web page directly from Windows when youve set it as the default browser, that came as a bit of a surprise first time I tried it! and then theres the problems with bookmarks that uses .htaccess logins, they really need to fix that.

Do you vigourously test every new browser when they are released? Or are you, like me, ignorent to the plathora of other products available, free or not?

Huh? I never said anything about adverts, Firefox is free, Opera isnt. But since you mention it, what do adverts on webpages have to do with it, they appear in any browser.

Opera is free with a banner ad is what I was implying. It's not crippleware where some features are taken away (only toolbar space is taken away), there's not 30-day trial where Opera tells you that you have to register or else you can't use it anymore. I simply think that it is hypocritical for people to point out Opera's one banner ad as a big problem when the pages they load have much more adverts.

Ignorant to what? Opera? How can someone who has tried, albeit the free version of Opera, and chose Firebird instead by personal taste be ignorant?

If you chose to make aspertions as to ones character without knowing the person in the first place... so be it :rolleyes:

I thought that you just were going to be ignorant about Internet Explorer's widely-known problems. That you didn't know about how easy it was for spyware to be installed when browsing web sites in IE.

I have no need to go anywhere to know about legacy browsers thanks. New browser versions can be a bit of minefield mind you, like with Firebird 0.9rc and its problems with opening a web page directly from Windows when youve set it as the default browser, that came as a bit of a surprise first time I tried it! and then theres the problems with bookmarks that uses .htaccess logins, they really need to fix that.

Do you vigourously test every new browser when they are released? Or are you, like me, ignorent to the plathora of other products available, free or not?

I am comfortable with occasionally using IE, and I don't think I will ever completely switch over to Opera as my only browser. I know there are problems like that where programs will automatically open up IE instead of the default browser, but that is the program's fault and not the browser's fault.

2. None of those browers is necessarily any more secure than Internet Explorer - the same as Linux distros not being any more secure than Windows. It just so happens that the most widely used browser gets the most attacks for exactly that reason: It's the most used browser. This is also the reason there are constant updates to patch these holes in the software. I'm not saying IE is the best, but I'm not saying it's the worst either. Just there's a lot of bias against it.

No need to inject facts into a Microsoft bashing thread ! ;)

BTW. I use firefox and IE.

Opera - Simply the best Internet Experience

This is for those people who use IE:

Go to http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch
Search for "internet explorer" and select "Bugtraq" from the drop-down box. You can find over 300 entries with that when searching in headlines only.

That means there are maybe up to 100 different exploits in different versions of IE, some of which can probably format your hard drives when you visit web pages. So, I would seriously advice you people to change your browser software.

I'm downloading Firefox right now.... it *looks* better than IE, which is what I'm using right now

That means there are maybe up to 100 different exploits in different versions of IE, some of which can probably format your hard drives when you visit web pages. And that happens to me all the time ;)

I use Internet Explorer. I don't see what all the fuss is about; it does the job, and I have never had any problems with it. Looks just fine too.

I use firefox, I used to use opera but I ran into problems with CSS and some plugins, that might have been fixed in recent releases but I'm using firefox now and have no problems with it so im sticking with it.

I know I'm an antique by using Netscape. I like having mail, news, and publisher all in my browser without having to wade through a ton of addons.

Sadly, I'm also required to have IE since our stupid health insurance company will not let you login without it. And for the ultimate in stupid--McAfee virus scanning/firewall software also will not work properly without having IE set as default. I've been trying to tweak my way around it but not always successful. I've also had it out over the phone with their tech idiots. Not having IE as default browser has saved my computer from far more garbage than McAfee products ever will.

When I do work on web design, I check my pages in both Netscape and IE. Don't do much of that anymore so haven't messed with other browsers. Used to be a huge fan of Lynx--nothing loaded faster!

I'm suprised no one has mentioned what I'm using - Avant
Like IE, but more secure, and with all the options IE should have had to begin with.

A couple of things from the avant FAQ

Is Avant Browser a secure browser?

Yes, Avant Browser is secure. Since it's based on Internet Explorer, Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer. Avant Browser supports all SSL secured websites. Avant Browser's encryption length is the same as Internet Explorer's.

How does Avant Browser work?

Based on services provided by Microsoft Internet Explorer, Avant Browser renders and navigates HTML.

...

^^ yes, that's very true for stupid people that download it, but you can disable activex, scripts, etc. from a dropdown menu. you can also re-enable them for viewing pdf's, shockwave etc.

The biggest draw is all the options it has, and this:
I still use Internet Explorer is used because Firefox sometimes dislike webpages designed for Internet Explorer.

That's ridiculous, Internet Explorer doesn't follow the internet standards but because it's a monopoly webpages are made to it's lazy standards.

Wait, Avant is secure because it's based on IE? :rolleyes:

:lol:

^^ yes, that's very true for stupid people that download it, but you can disable activex, scripts, etc. from a dropdown menu. you can also re-enable them for viewing pdf's, shockwave etc.

The biggest draw is all the options it has, and this:

:lol: IE has so many holes in that turning those options off ain't gonna make a hell of a lot of difference. :lol:

The United States GOverment has said get a browser other then IE. ANything but IE. :)

The United States GOverment has said get a browser other then IE. ANything but IE. :)
If the government finally figured it out, you know it must be bad! :lol:

IE has so many holes in that turning those options off ain't gonna make a hell of a lot of difference.
Yeah, but that doesn't make it worth it to get firefox or oprah (and i have used both and others) I chose avant because the advantages outweigh the security holes.

The United States GOverment has said get a browser other then IE. ANything but IE. :)

Where and when did they say that? A link would be nice if possible...

US Department of Homeland Security says stop using IE. (http://slashdot.org/articles/04/07/02/1441242.shtml?tid=103&tid=113&tid=126&tid=172&tid=95&tid=99)

Ideally it would be nice to see what exactly they said to see whether they actually said use a different browser or recommended that other browsers would be more secure...

The thing i hate is i can only go on to windowsupdate.com using IE talk about trying to dominate the industry you can't update microsoft windows if you aren't using a microsoft browser.

There was a link to yahoo news on that, dunno if you clicked it, but they do say use something other than IE as IE is not secure enough.

There are alternatives to make browsing reasonably secure like having a popup blocker, spyware blocker/finder and virus scanner rather than getting a different browser... At least for me it seems to be okay.

Lynx! Who uses Lynx 'cept me?

Lynx! Who uses Lynx 'cept me?
Me... I still think Lynx should have been included as an option... I use Lynx when in Linux and Firefox when in Windows.

I have a compiled copy of lynx on my desktop. Good for investigating links spammers post without being in for a shock. BTW, the poll should've been multi-choice. (oh, and there's also Mosaic, too! ;)).

I tried lynx the other day ....

interesting

I use IE at work, and Mozilla at home

The thing i hate is i can only go on to windowsupdate.com using IE talk about trying to dominate the industry you can't update microsoft windows if you aren't using a microsoft browser.
Well duh...Windows Updates uses ActiveX which is only available in IE...I think that's the only way a site can get information about your computer from you. Crucial (RAM memory place) uses ActiveX to identify your computer and what RAM you need, PCPitstop (diagnosis place) uses ActiveX to run some tests, and other sites too.

Opera, sometimes IE when a site doesn't work with Opera... :mad:

Before 02:00 EST today I was using Avant browser. Decided to give MyIE2 a try, because of the annoying avantfind page you get when a page doesn't load right. Have growing pains with MyIE2 now, but it looks okay so far.

I've used Netscape, Opera and Firefox. I prefer the IE-Core browsers myself. Just didn't like the others.