Take A Number...

PLEASE DON'T POST UNLESS YOU HAVE A REQUEST... SEE RULE 3

Here's the deal, from now until Monday anyone who has a unit request may post it below. Monday Night I will randomly pick one of those requests to make. This idea came from another thread where Goldflash suggested I buy a Bingo roller and start picking numbers... It went on from there :D This may only be a one time deal or it may turn into a fairly regular event... So pick your requests wisely, and may the best randomly generated number be chosen.

Several Ground Rules:
1) Only one request per person.

2) Only one unit per request (you can't request a complete line of spearman, just one).

3) Please don't post other messages, because if the number lands on that one there won't be a request and I get off the hook and you might just upset some people :D

4) If I am already doing almost that exact unit I won't pick this one up... For example I'm already working on Bond, don't request Bond with a machine gun instead of his pistol.

5) Pictures of what you want are not needed until a number is picked, then I'll request pictures of the winner if the request isn't obvious.

6) I'll try to complete the unit in a timely manner but obviously the more complex the request the longer it will take.

7) All random results are final. No complaining will be tolerated. If the winner changes their mind within two days of the results being posted then a new random number will be chosen.

Addendum: Seconding someone else's request is fine... I'll count it exactly as if you had request it in the first place. And as someone said it will increase the chances of a particular unit being done. Although that counts as your request :D

To be as open and transparent as possible with the selection this is the site I will be using to generate the winning random number. It allows a person to enter the first and last number of a range and will pick any number of numbers in between... In this case I will be chosing from 2 to the number of the last post when I close the thread.
http://www.random.org/nform.html

A Police Car! :D

EDIT: Need for urban warfare mod.

A crusder's Catapult (It's on a boat)

The Deathclaw from Fallout 1&2



Cheers Thorgrimm

A European worker.

EDIT: If several people can have the same request I'd like to change mine to TLC's iron mask dwarf. :)

Maccabee Warrior

EDIT: I made up my mind and I want the modern russian soldier with winter coat and those russian hats(or whatever they're called).

A fantasy hero swordsman, with a magic sword. :)

A Jewish slinger (with David star on the shiled).

Roman Auxiliary Infantry

http://www.roman-empire.net/army/pics/auxiliary-01.jpg

Decisions, decisions, so many choices....

A guerilla fighter with an Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) launcher (instead of an assault rifle). Prefereably something that would look suitable in either a modern brush-fire wars type scenario or in a post-apocalypse style scenario.

Thanks for doing this lottery Kinboat. I hope this turns into a regular event.

An Capoera Fighter.Capoera is an style of fight of Brazil,and it would made an very good unit.

A Kroxigor (Larger lizardman, armed with chunky weapons).

this guy:
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/dickjensen/AztecKnight.gif

A swordsman of the Chinese Tiger elite division

A WW2 style Chinesse Infantry unit for the Storm over the Pacific mod.

A really hard and decidedly scary Anglo-Saxon spear-thrower!

Great idea for a thread. Thank you!

Now blast you all!! hehe :p

Egyptian Spearman, make it an Old Kingdom fella, confound it!

A "Meiji Samurai" a la the Isshin Shishi; basically a samurai with sword AND pistol, similar in concept to the excellent Man-at-Arms unit. I'll find and post some pics if this one gets chosen.

General Grievous

Pic 1 (http://www.starwars.com/community/news/2004/03/news20040315_2.html)
Pic 2 (http://www.starwars.com/community/news/2004/03/news20040315_3.html)

The Six String Samurai!:D

A Gorilla, preferably with dark brown hair, with a kind of animal-type attack and one with a gun-tpye attack.

A Roman Archer!

http://www.soldiers-russia.com/niena/ancient_rome/18-08.JPG

BTW, nice idea you had, Kinboat! Like Muffins (and, I think, like everyone else), I also hope this turns into a regular event! :D

The world needs more South Asian units. I propose a Khmer footman:

http://www.amazonminiatures.com/images/products/k2.jpg

The guy from Halo (pretty self-explanatory IMO)

K-63 APC for Vietnam War

Ack, I can't decide between my storm giant, lion hybrid, or blessed wave knight :( <uses Kinboat's random generator, gets 3> Blessed Wave Knight it is!



Blessed Wave Knight: Knight riding a shark or giant seahorse, with brightly colored coral armor, carrying a shield and seaweed-draped trident. Naval unit.

I can scrounge up pictures of the type of thing i'm looking for if somehow i end up winning.

WWI Stormtrooper

http://www.histomin.com/lineand/andww1/mpan3f11.gif
http://www.packrat-toyz.com/images/Sideshow/4108%20German%20Trench.jpghttp://www.packrat-toyz.com/images/Sideshow/4108%20Trench%20Raider.jpg

This dude but I'd only need the model, not any animation.
http://www.artemisgames.com/robotech/images/zenarmor_hvy.jpg

A red-skinned devil with a sword of fire (like those in warcraft2)

A terrorist van. Basically a bunch of crazy guys, in a van, with machine guns shooting at people through the windows.

LotM can really do with some LotR units. I dont think it really matters which LotR unit, whatever you feel like making. Probly most needed is a decent mannish cavalary unit.

this guy:
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/dickjensen/AztecKnight.gif

Is it allowed to second a request? :)
If not, I will change it, but this is one I'd like to see also, and by also requesting it, the chance it gets picked increases :)
Couldn't find anything on this in the directions you posted, sorry :)

A Risorgimental (1860-1870) Bersagliere (italian light infantry)

I'm sorry this preview pick is so small, but most people will already know what this fella is about... request: a United States Colonial Marine (USCM) Grunt in battle gear. Kinboat already knows my love for the Aliens Franchise (and very lucky I was :)) I strongly believe there is a rather large gap for generic infantry after Balou's Modern Infantry... and between that and his fairly futuristic armored infantry

http://members.aol.com/Uscmr/bxrt.jpghttp://members.aol.com/Uscmr/hface8.jpg

A similar, lesser armored Unit depicted from different angles (http://members.aol.com/M56SG/uscm2.html)

more info here (http://members.aol.com/M56SG/uscm.html) and here (http://members.aol.com/M56SG/picsproj.html)

edit: wouldn't be mad if "This guy" wins either ;)

A macabee with a David star on the shield. More specific details if I win.

Warhammer Winged Nightmare with a rider :)

Okay, I'm Reserving this Spot till I Pick what I want! Glad that you did this, Kinboat!

Okay, I Decided.

Kal-El's Engineer
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/Engineer.gif

Elf dragon lord rider guy.

I'm sorry this preview pick is so small, but most people will already know what this fella is about... request: a United States Colonial Marine (USCM) Grunt in battle gear. Kinboat already knows my love for the Aliens Franchise (and very lucky I was :)) I strongly believe there is a rather large gap for generic infantry after Balou's Modern Infantry... and between that and his fairly futuristic armored infantry

http://members.aol.com/Uscmr/bxrt.jpghttp://members.aol.com/Uscmr/hface8.jpg

A similar, lesser armored Unit depicted from different angles (http://members.aol.com/M56SG/uscm2.html)

more info here (http://members.aol.com/M56SG/uscm.html) and here (http://members.aol.com/M56SG/picsproj.html)

edit: wouldn't be mad if "This guy" wins either ;)

I second this request.

And for some flavour, add a smart gun (the one that has a support arm used by Drake & Ramirez)

EDIT2: change of vote 2 (Ozy, Ozy, quite contrary -- yet with very good reason :D ) ...

... back to the chap in the individual combat armor, which pix I'll of course re-post if required.

Abraxas,

Oz

PS BTW Kinboat very cool idea ... :king:

-O.

This aboriginal warrior, with initial attack the (non-returning) boomerang throw, follwed by spear thrusts as secondary attack.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=1943728&postcount=1

Anything African I'd say, preferring Ancient or Midival.

Australian Light Horse Cavalry

"Asha'man" unit from The Wheel of Time

-wears all black with a high neck collar, a dragon pin on one side of the collar and a sword pin on the other (can put these on shoulder possibly so you can see them at civ-scale), and wears a sword at the hip.

some ideas
attack a: fireball attack
attack b: calls lightning from sky
death: devoured by lightning from the sky

* this was an awesome idea Kinboat. I know you'll be busy just looking at the amount of requests already generated :) ... I just hope I win the lottery.

_____
attached a not so great picture, but something to give you an idea:

I'd like to request some heavy Planet of the Apes-style cavalry. BTW Kinboat, you rule.

Kal-el 's Engineering

Chaos Space Marine :D

A ghost, preferably one that looks like one from the Army of the Dead on RotK.
Why? Cos they look cool, and there aren't many uniquire ghost land units about.
I'm finding it hard looking for pics though for some reason.

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Maccabee Warrior

I'll second this request.

You are too good to us, Kinboat!

I'm going to request a Prussian infantryman from the Seven Years War period. But I'd like him to be pretty generic looking.

I'll find pictures on the odd chance I get mine picked.

Now, I need to make about a dozen alter-egos so I can vote for it more times! :D

Good call muffins!

Myself, I'd like the Super Dimensional Gear Yggdrasil 4 from Xenogears...as seen below...

I'll cast a request in too. If I win you get a real challenge: a bone dragon. Reason? Because it looks cool :cool: and it could be very nice for fantasy mods.

Picture below.

Xena - as an Army leader!

I'd like to see a Native American settler please :D .

How about Roman Cavalry...they need one to go with your industrial legionarii :cool:

Yeah, I’m game. My request is a Sarmatian horseman, one like these swell chaps below. :D

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Sarmatian_horsemen.jpg
Might as well submit the picture nonetheless, yeah I trust me lucky charm. :mischief:

These Indo-Iranian boys rode around and ruined many a day for Romans, Scythians, and whoever else dared disturb them. The heavy knight-like rider here was armed with a very long lance and some also used bows. A full charge of Sarmatian knights was an unpleasant event indeed.


The picture is vigorously snatched from Osprey Publishing (http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_detail.php/title=S485X).

I love the idea of a Colonial Marine from Aliens, but I'm going to go ahead and request my own unit...following in the vein of the Alien Saga, how about an Alien? That would kick @$$!

A Dwarf Warrior with an iron mask. For inclusion in LotM, should the number come up my way.

I'll grab a number and order if it gets called... I am thinking club with extra mayo and extra bacon.

The submarine in this post:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=1756797&postcount=3

It looks pretty cool, and it would help out those FF mods that are being made.

Definitely something for Lord of the Mods. I'll second the dwarf with iron mask request, I guess.

Arathorn

ill second Lusikka75's skull dragon thing

Oh yeah! the dwarf with the mask! I always thought gold, but I'll third the iron mask!

Great Idea!

RRnut

The Koori Blowpipe...

see here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=1956085#post1956085

Yet another flavor unit ;) - a Tibetan Archer

I would like to see a Barbary corsair (North African Muslim Pirate ca. 1500s) like Dragut Rais. Flint lock pistol, arabic sword.

Thank you.

Turkish cannon + gunner with a huge turban on his head :D

African (Zulu) horseman with a spear, in quasi-Massai costume on a striped (quagga-coloured) horse. And at the size Aluminium shrunk your Crusader unit to.

C'mon dice!

The one Kal-el brought up, the Aztec-y guy on a horse

AN AAAV http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/aaav-pic

The US Army's Stryker

http://www.army.mil/features/stryker/

An African 'knight' unit. (West Sudanese preferably!)

Wild West cowboy, please.

a matrix-type coding unit (a computer virus)

A Robot Worker

I have a feeling Kinboat will conduct his lottery, end up with a ****ty unit request winning, and then running it again and again until he finds a half-decent idea.

oh, and I'd also like to nominate the Maccabe, preferrably with a Star of David on the shield.

Oh, I think I'll make a request too, since everybody else is doing it. Hmm . . . let's go with the War Wagon; it's been requested here at CFC before. I've wanted to make one too, but it would have taken too long, so I gave up. But you can do it after I win the lottery! ;)

As much as I'd like to see a Metal Gear Rex unit, I think I'll have to back W.i.n.t.e.r up on this one and request a U.S. Colonial Marine.

Although I agree with muffin's idea... I'd prefer an Imperial Space Marine, as it can be used slightly more generically

This guy here (http://www.wannabe.uk.com/vbss%20005.jpg)

Kal-el's drawing...

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/dickjensen/AztecKnight.gif

Anything from Kal-el's list of concept art, http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=63579

but since I have to pick one I would love to see this guy.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Scout_Armour.gif

Kal-El's Aztec knight from post #14.

I vote for a Phoenician spearman. (a much needed flavor unit for my mod). :sad:

of course I can provide picture of it if I win... :mischief:

I suppose there's a better chance to win than the real lottery ;)

Since this feels like a once in a lifetime opurtunity (unless you want to do this often), I'm going to request the first request I ever made

Numidian Cavalry

This is a much better uu for Carthage, and probably would work for any African civ, and Rome as well. I would have wished Kryten had finished it, but I'm not sure that would happen, and this seems like a better idea (give Kryten a break to just work on Hoplites, or retire, or whatever he wanted to do ;) ).

Of course I have pics, just check my sig.

Well, if I still had any time whatsoever for modding I would request a plesiosaur to round out the dinos. Since I don't, I am seconding Thorgrimms Deathclaw request. This is a mod that I REALLY want to see built.

Well after 87 posts the requests have died down... maybe because everyone has already posted? At least the more frequent visitors. I'll be generating a number shortly and posting the results here.

I can only assure you that I will truely take the first number pulled and will not keep picking one until I get one that I "like" as someone suggested. Although you have nothing to go on besides my word, I would hope that would be enough.

If there is any major objection to this method and I decide to do another one of these in the future I suppose I could pick an impartial person from these boards that everyone would trust to generate the number without prejudice... Not sure if that is even possible but it could be one option to calm people's concerns.

Also KB, I think you should keep drawing for atleast maybe your next few projects, give all of us more of a chance.

That siad, most of these will be pretty usefull to atleast some people, with the exception of the 'Six String Samurai' If you draw that one... well... all of us wil lshoot ourselves.

That said... Go Engineer!

I'd like a Maccabe warrior as well. We need at least one Hebrew unit for a UU.

As a supporter of historical (including alternate historical) flavor units, I naturally would rather they take precedence over fantasy/sci-fi, but it's your call.

Although now I have something of a puzzler on my hands... The number that came up was 70. This was Redking's request for a Zulu type warrior on horseback. Number one... not everyone has heard this but I have Kal-el's Zulu concept sketches on my to-do list already, so I'm planning on making a very similar unit at some time in the future. Number two... DPII has recently posted a preview of a similar unit. It's up to Redking at this point. If he wants to request a different unit... or I could try for another type of African Horseman, different than the Zulu on Quagga idea.

Maybe you should draw another one as a back up?

there is always this guy:
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/dickjensen/ZuluKnight.gif

Oh, and I volunteer to be the impartial number picker. ;)

It is your call, but I think you should either make Kal's Zulu Knight or Draw Again.

the interesting thing is this is going to force you to make that horse model a bit earlier than you had planned. :p

Sounds interesting.

Also, the First post says You won;t do Smiliar units to ones that you are already doing, but it doesn't Not that it also applys to the other unit creators. See, Interprtation can get you anything. And besides, poloticians do it all the time with the Consitiution and all sorts of laws.

A South American Axe Thrower-throws overhead and has a pack of small axes on its back(like a quiver.) He would wear a civ-colored skirtlike thing and would be a replacement for the swordsman for my SUU mod.(I will not name the top secret civ im using it for)


Too late Tsunami. Sorry.

Also, the First post says You won;t do Smiliar units to ones that you are already doing, but it doesn't Not that it also applys to the other unit creators. See, Interprtation can get you anything. And besides, poloticians do it all the time with the Consitiution and all sorts of laws.
I had interpreted that to mean that he wouldn't do a request that he already started, i.e. James Bond, not that he wouldn't bump a unit that was already on his list up to the top.

Well I said it was up to Redking at the moment... So it will either be the Zulu Horseman earlier than I probably would have done it... Another type of African Horseman... Or another unit requested by Redking. I'll PM him and if I don't get a response in a few days I'll draw again.

Too late Tsunami. Sorry.

I know.
:sad:

Well.. whatever you do, I'll probably use it.

Well.. whatever you do, I'll probably use it.
yeah, me too. :) :lol: :lol: :lol: unless it's some crazy six stringed samurai. Not sure what I would use that for. :crazyeye:

That siad, most of these will be pretty usefull to atleast some people, with the exception of the 'Six String Samurai' If you draw that one... well... all of us wil lshoot ourselves.

I guess I'm the only person to have seen this movie.:p Come on, how can you go wrong with this unit, a post-Apocolyptic samurai sword swinging rock and roll guitar playing elvis impersonating buttkicking warrior!

oh, and again I volunteer to be the impartial number picker.

I find you hardly impartial Kal-el... A large portion of the votes were for units you have drawn concept art for :D

I find you hardly impartial Kal-el... A large portion of the votes were for units you have drawn concept art for :D
well, is that my fault? :mischief:


:p groucho

alright, I guess I will just have influence the lottery in some other way.

Why Don't we have Tsunami be the Impartial Number picker? he doesn't have a vote.

I have no problem with Kinboat picking the number. (blatant b rown nosing ;))

Well, I was just suggesting.

Heh, Kal, you and I are watching this thread like Hawks.

Oh, and Totally off topic, have you been reading the Idenity Crisis Serise? Looks like the biggest thing to Shake up the DCU since The Crisis of Infinte Earths.

oh, and again I volunteer to be the impartial number picker.

:lol: Perhaps my second thought for a Californio would have gotten a better reception. Well, let me just say that if you are at all into indie flicks, find and see this movie. http://www.sixstringsamurai.com/ clip:http://www.flp.com/films/six-string_samurai/clip01.html

edit: Atleast I didn't request the Dude from the Big Lebowski. Now that would be a funny unit. :cool:

I guess it's too late for me to enter my Stick Figure, huh?

I can only assure you that I will truely take the first number pulled and will not keep picking one until I get one that I "like" as someone suggested. Although you have nothing to go on besides my word, I would hope that would be enough.


:eek: Blasphemers! Who would suggest that!?

... That having been said, personally I'd go with Kal's Zulu Knight :D

-Oz

Hmm, Goldflash seems to want me dead. LOL.

I'll mull over the options Kinboat has presented me and respond fully tonight.
But rest assured, all: it will be an African mounted unit.

-Redking

Shamless wishful thinking.

How about my Numidian Cavalry (see sig).

It was an African (Numidian) Light Cavalry that was very important as a mercenary to the army of Carthage, especially Hannibal's cross over the Alps. Their typical strategy would be to ride very close to the enemy (such as Roman Cavalry), fire a bunch of Javelins, and quickly ride away before they could be persued. They were also great at harrassing the enemy on a wide scale, and once drew the Romans into pursuit long before they were ready for battle (while giving time for most of Carthage's army to slowly prepare itself).

Unfortunately, the great usefulness of the Numidian Cavalry was the reason for Hannibal's loss. When Scipio landed on Africa, he made a deal with a Numidian King, and Hannibal's cavalry deserted him. He was forced to attack before Scipio and the Numidian King could unite his forces. He chose to use the other thing Carthage was famous for, their Elephants (African Forest Elephant, smaller than an Indian Elephant, believed to be extinct). Unfortunately, Elephants are very timid fighters, and it wasn't long before they were routed, trampling much of Hannibal's army. This proved that it wasn't Elephants that won victories for Hannibal (most of them died crossing the Alps anyway), it was his Numidian Cavalry.

Actually, not really, Redking. I need Africian Mounted Units (Infact, anything African), Don't take it personally.

Well, I was just suggesting.

Heh, Kal, you and I are watching this thread like Hawks.

Oh, and Totally off topic, have you been reading the Idenity Crisis Serise? Looks like the biggest thing to Shake up the DCU since The Crisis of Infinte Earths.
No, I haven't. the last thing I read was "Our Worlds at War" and "Kingdom Come"

I do't like to wait for the next issue anymore, so I just get them when they are published as a bound copy. :) :blush:

Oh, this is a JLA Special. Its good. Only the first issue has been released and they;ve akready killed a long time DCU and JLA member.

And.. to keep thios on topic... Good Kinboat is good!

I have a suggestion for Kinboat that obviously is not meant to be part of the lottery... Make parts.

For example, I was going to suggest that maybe Redking ask for a Mali Camel Rider for an African cavalry unit... but then I realized that you'd have to make a camel model, and also, indirectly, negate my usefulness ;).

BUT on the other hand, I could make this unit if I had some additional props that I can't find on the net. This also means that Kinboat doesn't have to worry about posing/rendering/compiling into storyboard, etc. So you might want to think about it as a way of easing the strain on yourself. If you make a number of costume items for the paperdoll and distribute them, then other Poser modelers can make the units themselves. Indeed, with Daz Studio (free) other people can even make them too I believe.

In fact, I will go one step farther... Kinboat, I think you should open a store at Renderosity or one of these places to sell these accessories. I know I would pay for them. And I'm sure other non-Civ players will buy them for their own purposes as well.

DPII, you would have to be using Kinboat's "Marc" model rather than the stock "Michael" figure in order to use any clothing he made.

That said, I would hate to lose Kinboat to simple prop making. He is far too valuable as a creative genius to forego the animation process. Now if he some people wanted to apprentice under him and relieve him of the rendering/compiling/storyboarding aspect, i.e. the tedium, I would whole-heartedly support that. In fact if KB wanted to work that way I would make it my mission to find an apprentice or two to help him out.

I'm not saying he'd have to quite the unit-making biz altogether for the purpose of making props. I'm merely saying that it could held to alleviate some of the workload, and make a little money for himself at the same time if he decided to sell them...

But if he wanted to establish an apprenticeship program, I might be compelled to offer my services. :lol:


Edit: Also, if by the "Marc" you mean the Paperdoll figure he put on the forums a few months ago, I already have that.

yeah, the guy he uses as the base for all his unit since the Japanese ones.

Gosh darn it! :wallbash: how the heck did i miss this thread?! :cry: lol now i guess im going to HAVE to check the creation and customization thread more often! :suicide:

We aren't supposed to post normal messages in this thread I believe.....Unless you know something I don't.....

the number has been drawn.

We aren't supposed to post normal messages in this thread I believe.....Unless you know something I don't.....

Like that Kinboat already picked the #? ;)

Like that Kinboat already picked the #? ;)
beat ya to it. :p

Who was chosen? I hope something Kal-El drawn......

Post Number Seventy. Somne Form of african horseman.

I can always count on Kal-el to make more work for me... But now Dom Pedro II is doing it too :D
I'm actually on version 3 of my Paperdoll human figure that I use... I think I posted the second version. Number 3 is rather better in my opinion (not so humble opinion). One of the problems with making props and posting them at renderosity or somesuch site is that the props I do for Civ are rather low detail. Another problem (at least with the making money by selling) is that I'm generally opposed to the market society... personal grievences which do not need to be brought up here.
If anyone wants to use one of my models I'd be happy to send something along. I do get more enjoyment out of modeling something then out of the whole process that follows (although animating can be fun it often gets tedious trying to find the 50th way for something to fall down dead :D ). If you need a camel I could probably whip something up.
Maybe if I had a faster internet connection sending these large Poser files to someone else to compile the images wouldn't be so bad... But then I'd feel sorry for whoever got stuck with the job. All the work and none of the fun.

By the way Dom Pedro II, it wasn't always 2 was it? Why the number 2 after your nickname... second version better than the first?

Kinboat,

I've PMed you with a modified request, as per your earlier message. Thanks.

- Redking

so what is it!?!?!? sheesh, we're dying over here!

what a guy, leaves us with some criptic message about a secret PM.

[starts pounding on keyboard]

We want to know! we want to know! we want to know!

Get the torches and the Pitchforks! We'll have ourseles a good ole fasion middle ages mob!

We want to know! We want to know! We want to know!

I think I'd be killed right now if I said I was at work and couldn't pick up my PM's :D

Get the torches and the Pitchforks! We'll have ourseles a good ole fasion middle ages mob!

We want to know! We want to know! We want to know!
that's what I'm talkin' about! let's gather the peasants! to the castle! Burn him! He's a witch! Burn him!

Redking just post your request here before someone kills poor kinboat.:lol:

Oh, sorry guys

Didn't consider the collective anxiety angle.

It's a Zulu 19th century rifle-cavalry, along the lines of my original (late in the year 2002?) proposal, but a "regular", as if Shaka's empire had continued and increased in structure and material, and perhaps continued on it's way toward it's own brand of fascism. And yes, it's on a quagga-coloured horse, so it's doubly hypothetical.

Look at the first pic in this thread for the way the horse is requested to look.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69733

Maybe not what some of you want, but, hey... lucky number seventy, baby!

- Redking

I've gotten the PM... I didn't say I couldn't I just said I'd be killed if I couldn't...

The request was changed to be more of a Cavalry replacement for the Zulu, riding on a Quagga patterned horse... Not a Quagga but a horse that has either been bred to have similar markings or painted (whichever theory helps you get up in the morning).

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/zuluhorseman.jpg


Ok... here's a very early, early preview. Tell me what you think... and yes, before you ask, the blue is civ-specific.
This is hilarious! :lol:

Are we thinking that they will have a more European style uniform by this time, or are they going to stick with their traditional garb, or lack there of?

Some sort of cross between the two... An Imperial Zulu Cavalry officers uniform...

do you know what that would look like, or do you want me to try and come up with something?

I'd rather Kinboat work on it.

If he needs further direction I'll pull out my tragically underutilized college art degree.

I'm very keen on your concept drawings, Kal-el, but if I can keep this out of committee I'll be happier, and I think if Kinboat continues to favor us with the deli-line, future recipients might appreciate the same desire to have a chance at getting their vision realized by the community's Michaelangelo-in-residence.

- Redking

absolutely. I respect that completely. Just offering my services in case they were needed/wanted.

Thats usefull. Still need that Zulu knight, though

I think I can come up with something on my own... I agree with Redking, and part of the idea of doing this lottery was so that people could get their ideas created instead of just those ideas that appeal to the majority.

When you finish this unit, I hope you do another one of these things.

Yeah, this was an awesome idea! I"m glad I thought of it :D

But I'm even gladder that Kinboat did it!

Is gladder even a word? :confused:

I think I can come up with something on my own... I agree with Redking, and part of the idea of doing this lottery was so that people could get their ideas created instead of just those ideas that appeal to the majority.
works for me, man. you're the boss after all. :)

By the way Redking... Just what did John Keegan say? Is this the John Keegan who writes military histories? Or some other John Keegan...

When you finish this unit, I hope you do another one of these things.

Judging the interest in this thread, I think it's pretty safe to say that a lot of us do. If I need to beg and plead Kinboat, I will. :)

Perhaps maybe a "Now serving # ..." when lucky #70 has been served?

Kinboat, it was always II ;). Dom Pedro II was the last emperor of Brazil... Dom Pedro I was the first. Yes, Brazil after independence had a king from 1822 to 1889. The only sovereign country in the Americas to have a monarch. Woot? :crazyeye:

Also, I understand if you don't wish to sell your models, but really, my intent was not to add more work but to rather to ease the labor by having more people making units so you wouldn't have to. Are you at least accepting donations? ;)

I think you still could sell them though. If you've ever been to Turbosquid, you'll see that some people set very audacious prices for true garbage (which your stuff certainly isn't), and I'd imagine that they do it because somebody out there is willing to buy it. For somebody doing computer art, your stuff may not be worth them spending the money, but we're hardly the only people doing computer graphics out there. Just a thought anyway.

Also, I don't need a camel. I've already got one. It might not be as civvy as one you'd make, but I think it does the trick. Although if you'd really like to help me, hehe, I could use cataphract for a horse and a camel.

Kal-El does have a good point about apprenticeship though I think. You do a lot of work here, and I think anybody here would be willing to do whatever it takes to ease your workload. As long as it's not reducing requests... :nono:

"As long as it's not reducing requests... :nono:" lol yes, agreed :D lol

I wonder we will see a winning spot on Ebay...and for how much it will go for :)

Yes, Kinboat, that John Keegan. And as to what he said, well, there's volumes. An obtuse way of saying I tend to subscribe to his analyses on the nature of warfare.

It could have been "what J.P. Mallory said" or "what Jared Diamond said" or "what Joseph Campbell said"... but Keegan takes preeminence in this odd pantheon of mine.

... or "what Frank Frazetta said (drew)".

I wonder we will see a winning spot on Ebay...and for how much it will go for :)

Well, someone sold his name on e-bay, so anything is possible.

Well, someone sold his name on e-bay, so anything is possible.

lol wow.... yeah ive seen some pretty crazy junk on there too. i bet you could even sell your civfanatic account on there lol

This is my request for the lottery...
Could somebody please make a WW2 German paratrooper.There is an older version that uses Army (Wermacht) uniform and helmet. But IMHO every ww2 scenario needs one...
this site has nice photos:
http://www.greendevils.com/greendevils/
uniform details:http://www.fallschirmjager-militaria.com/index2.htm
a winter camo version is here:http://www.kolumbus.fi/fishu/image1.jpg
a forest camo:http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/modelpages/GJssfalfig.htm
green camo:http://militaryillus.home.att.net/id43.htm

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/0764310402b.gif
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/warriors35459reviewaj_1.jpg
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/warriors35459reviewaj_4.jpg

The lottery has ended, Garbarsardar.jr, Redking already won :)
Nice request though ;)

A little late there Garbarsardar...


I'm psyced for a Zulu Cavalryman! Thanks for doing the lottery, Kinboat.

Thankfully no stones were thrown.

*Throws a stone at God Money*

Uhm- I think the lottery is over :)

Aren't you a little late?

The huge amount of requests recently makes me think that we creators should form a worker's union to fight eploitation. We could go into a strike for better working conditions including a unit/request per week limit :) :mischief:

The huge amount of requests recently makes me think that we creators should form a worker's union to fight eploitation. We could go into a strike for better working conditions including a unit/request per week limit :) :mischief:
Solution? Make what you have, or what is truly needed, not what they want. Chances are you will please enough poeple. Then again we are not getting paid by anyone so there's not a whole lot of incentive to listen to a lot of eccentric requests is there? But then if money were involved things would get a lot nastier.

That won't stop the request, though. You will never stop me and the legion of eveil unit requesters!!!! Muwhahahaha!!!

oh wait, I'm supposed to be a good guy. :confused:

Solution? Make what you have, or what is truly needed, not what they want. Chances are you will please enough people.

As a "consumer" and not a creator, I nevertheless must say I agree with Wyrm. Go where the spirit takes you -- I mean, Heavens, I think I've d/l-ed -- 600? 700? -- units, and my favs are largely those their creators seem to be most happy with.

-Oz

I submitted my PhD thesis 2 days after the deadline....
I'm greek...
I have dysfunctional illiteracy with dates.....
:blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:
I'm so embarrassed right now :blush: :blush: :blush:

I submitted my PhD thesis 2 days after the deadline....
I'm greek...
I have dysfunctional illiteracy with dates.....
:blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:
I'm so embarrassed right now :blush: :blush: :blush:
Are you called George Dimitropoulos by any chance :D ???

Congrats to Redking for winning the unit lottery! :goodjob:

That being said however, I still feel that we should try to focus our collective energies on the unit making process. BeBro pointed out the sheer number of requests that he gets nearly every week for new units. From the comfortable distance of NOT being a unit creator/designer, I would say that that weekly flood of requests would drive me insane and quite possible frustrate me right out of the business.

I think that unit design should be coordinated based on time period. That being said, I feel we should start with ancient units and gradually progress our way up the temporal ladder. There are ALOT of ancient units left to be made for each civ, while there is an alarming number of modern units.

I have suggested in a previous thread AGES ago that perhaps we could start by using the Explore Armies section at this site http://www.dbaol.com/ . Is this not a sound and coordinating proposal? Would also lend some impartiality to this design process while providing some temporal focus.

BTW, what has happend to Mr. Kryten?

Personally, I think we shhould leave it up to the unit creators to decide what they want to make. (like we have any control over it anyway :)) The restrictions we try and impose on them the more likey they are of ignoring us all together. Or so it seems to me.

BTW, what has happend to Mr. Kryten?

'There is no Kryten but Kryten, and he is busy working on units.':worship:

"There is no Kryten but Kryten, and he is busy working on units."

hmmm does this make sence to anyone else lol cause i dont understand... there is no kryten but kryten?

Personally, I think we shhould leave it up to the unit creators to decide what they want to make. (like we have any control over it anyway :)) The restrictions we try and impose on them the more likey they are of ignoring us all together. Or so it seems to me.

Well thats fine. I fully support creation based on want and need.

However, we are a big community of wanters and needers hehe. I just feel that SOME coordination should be tried here to produce a full RANGE of units.

The joke originated in the Peloponnesian War Senaro Development thread. TRhe scenario couldn't go anywhere becuase Kryten hadn't finished the custom units yet. And he had mysteriously dissappeared. so when I said 'HE's busy working on our units, and I'm putting on headphones so I won't hear you discourage me:p', one of the team members parodied the muslim prayer 'There is no God but Allah and Muhhamed is his prophet', and said 'There is no Kryten but Kryten and he is busy working on our units'.

Personally, while I was gone, I wasn't even checking the site or my topic threads because I didn't even want to see what was piling up for me... it can get to the poin that you don't want to do it anymore.

But I also threw a lot of previews out there and then had to follow through on them, so I put a lot of the pressure on myself.

But basically, you can't let it frustrate you. I take the requests as suggestions. Sometimes, they give me an idea for something I'd like. Sometimes they don't. And if they don't, I tune it out. You just smile and nod your way through it.

EDIT: But I've also not gotten anywhere near the volume of requests as other creators.

EDIT: But I've also not gotten anywhere near the volume of requests as other creators.
that's be cause we knew you were on hiatus. now that you're back look out! ;)

Actually, you unit creators should be happy to know that I will be offline for quite a while starting on the 10th of next month. I am heading off to serve my country and will be in basic for 9 weeks, followed by advanced training for 14 more. That should cut down the requests by about, oh, I'd say half. :)

Don't worry, I'll pick up the slack ;)

Are you called George Dimitropoulos by any chance ???

Aren't we all? :D