View Full Version : Bertuzzi Charged ???


dgfred
Jun 25, 2004, 09:31 AM
Would this be happening if the guy hadn't broken his neck :eek: :confused: ? How can you charge assault
in Hockey if they seem to look away from all the FIGHTING,
and even make those "tough guys" necessary on every team?
Seems :crazyeye: , heavy suspension and fine should apply :confused: .

Gumby78
Jun 25, 2004, 10:39 AM
Bertuzzi was suspended for the last games of the regular season and all Vancouver playoff games. There have been other times where charges are brought against hockey players. Most of those incidents are cheap shots and hitting with the stick, which can lead to serious injury. Most of that fighting doesn't end with one of the players carried off on a stretcher and the rest of his hockey career in doubt.

pawpaw
Jun 25, 2004, 04:36 PM
remember, macsorty got charged

pawpaw
Jun 25, 2004, 04:38 PM
How can you charge assault
in Hockey if they seem to look away from all the FIGHTING,
and even make those "tough guys" necessary on every team?


fighting is tie domi and some guy fighting face to face, not a pearl harbor attack

Immortal
Jun 25, 2004, 05:10 PM
I dunno about criminal charges, but ever since that game Ive been saying Todd should never play hockey again.

LesCanadiens
Jun 25, 2004, 06:22 PM
I dunno about criminal charges, but ever since that game Ive been saying Todd should never play hockey again.

And ever since that game, no one's cared about what you have to say.

Hockey is a game in which you consent to having violence directed against you when you agree to play. It's for that ever so simple reason that no charges should have been laid.

Azale
Jun 25, 2004, 09:52 PM
But it was a CHEAP shot from behind, and it BROKE HIS NECK. He should be charged to a long parole sentence, maybe a month in jail, and suspended from the league in my opinion. Its one thing to break a guys jaw when your fighting face to face, quit another to come from behind and whack a guy and start slamming your stick agaisnt him.

The NHL may sanction violence, but if theres a case where the state should come in, its this one.

Immortal
Jun 25, 2004, 10:52 PM
And ever since that game, no one's cared about what you have to say. ;)

Aww, I didn't know people cared before, ah well. Maybe I should have been move vocal in the past.

Vancouver sucks anyway, anybody who is soundly ruined by calgary has more problems then can be dealt with by a franchise.

LesCanadiens
Jun 26, 2004, 03:05 AM
But it was a CHEAP shot from behind, and it BROKE HIS NECK. He should be charged to a long parole sentence, maybe a month in jail, and suspended from the league in my opinion. Its one thing to break a guys jaw when your fighting face to face, quit another to come from behind and whack a guy and start slamming your stick agaisnt him.

The NHL may sanction violence, but if theres a case where the state should come in, its this one.

It didn't "break his neck." A couple of cracks in the vertebrae do not qualify as a broken neck. He was fully healed after a couple of weeks. Much more serious is the potential for post-concussion syndrome. A broken neck means paralysis and/or death, confusion with which has caused "outcry." Besides, cheap shots happen all the time in hockey, like Tie Domi attacking people on the bench, spearing people, etc. I didn't see the LA police charging Johnson for ending Beukeboom's career. Or how come Lemieux wasn't charged when he broke Draper's neck in a similar fashion? Or Granato two handing a guy (forget his name)?

It's just part of the damn game. Stop being such a . .. .. .. .. . and squealing foul like a pig just because sometihng like this happens. Suck it up, take it, and try just for one damn second to be objective about it. If you can't, shut up and stop trying to pass judgement on something you have no clue about whatsoever. But then again, you're a Texan, so I suppose it's natural for you to be a really cool guy.

Lets keep the personal insults out of this discussion. col

LesCanadiens
Jun 26, 2004, 03:10 AM
;)

Aww, I didn't know people cared before, ah well. Maybe I should have been move vocal in the past.

Vancouver sucks anyway, anybody who is soundly ruined by calgary has more problems then can be dealt with by a franchise.

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20040607/bolts_84003.jpg

Nuff said.

Immortal
Jun 26, 2004, 12:52 PM
calgary sucks too, just not as badly as Vancouver.

By the way I happen to like Tampa bay, guess you couldnt find a picture of vancouver hoisting the cup...oh wait....

Lefty Scaevola
Jun 26, 2004, 03:15 PM
Hockey is a game in which you consent to having violence directed against you when you agree to play..Where it has been legally decided in court, the decision has been that ONLY CONTACT WITHIN THE RULES is consented to, and that any violence outside the rules is just as prosecutable as if it happened anywhere else, but almost all minor criminal violence is not prosecuted, whether it happens on the street, the playing filed, in a bar, or wherever. A smack on the head ouside the rules has the same legal status in the rink as it does on the street, and a lot more witnesses if anybody can be bothered to prosecute it.

Azale
Jun 26, 2004, 03:23 PM
It didn't "break his neck." A couple of cracks in the vertebrae do not qualify as a broken neck. He was fully healed after a couple of weeks. Much more serious is the potential for post-concussion syndrome. A broken neck means paralysis and/or death, confusion with which has caused "outcry." Besides, cheap shots happen all the time in hockey, like Tie Domi attacking people on the bench, spearing people, etc. I didn't see the LA police charging Johnson for ending Beukeboom's career. Or how come Lemieux wasn't charged when he broke Draper's neck in a similar fashion? Or Granato two handing a guy (forget his name)?

It's just part of the damn game. Stop being such a . .. .. .. .. . and squealing foul like a pig just because sometihng like this happens. Suck it up, take it, and try just for one damn second to be objective about it. If you can't, shut up and stop trying to pass judgement on something you have no clue about whatsoever. But then again, you're a Texan, so I suppose it's natural for you to be a really cool guy.

Lets keep the personal insults out of this discussion. col

Its natural for me to be what? I really wanted to know :lol: :lol:


Like lefty said, it was agaisnt the rules. From behind, a cheap shot.

If in soccer, you trip someone and then bash his head in with your cleats and it causes him to go the hospital, im sure you would be charged or banned from the league. I could be wrong, but Im pretty sure of it.

LesCanadiens
Jun 26, 2004, 05:05 PM
A smack on the head ouside the rules has the same legal status in the rink as it does on the street, and a lot more witnesses if anybody can be bothered to prosecute it.

Then answer why charges were not pressed in the other examples I specified, or the countless number of times worse things have happened in the game of hockey in the national hockey league. If you truly think that and aren't a biased prick, then you'd be whining about those cases too.

7 days. col

It's part of the game. The game has dealt with it. The law should not. Period.

Lefty Scaevola
Jun 26, 2004, 09:26 PM
Then answer why charges were not pressed in the other examples I specified, or the countless number of times worse things have happened in the game of hockey in the national hockey league. "but almost all minor criminal violence is not prosecuted, whether it happens on the street, the playing filed, in a bar, or wherever."

dgfred
Jun 28, 2004, 10:13 AM
This was the kind of post I was looking for ;) :scan: . It seems to me the
punishment has something to do with the amount of injury AND who did the
injuring!!! :confused: