Title shamelessly coppied from hbdragon88 thread :mischief:


Users of Microsoft's free email service will have access to 250MB of storage from the start of next month


Microsoft said on Wednesday that it will boost storage limits in its Hotmail Web email service, a move intended to counter similar steps taken by rivals Google and Yahoo.





The upgrade will increase Hotmail's free email storage limits from 2 megabytes to 250MB and its paid email service, which costs $19.95 (£10.99) a year, from 10MB to 2 gigabytes. The changes will begin in early July.


"With these new offers, storage will not be an issue for MSN Hotmail customers," Blake Irving, corporate vice president of communication services for MSN, said in a statement.


The storage follows similar announcements from Google and Yahoo. The storage boost started when Google announced in April that it plans to launch a new email service called Gmail that will give people 1GB of storage for free. The service has attracted some controversy, because it will serve advertisements based on keywords found in the text of peoples' email messages.


Indeed, Google's initial steps into storage increases countered the industry's trend to charge extra for more memory. Over the past few years, Yahoo and Hotmail have both taken steps to decrease memory in hopes of convincing free users to become paying subscribers.


Earlier this month, Yahoo launched its own upgrade to 100MB for free users and 2GB for its paid users. The company said the changes would make email storage a "nonissue."


"We'll remain focused on what emailers want and need, and people can expect to see a number of new enhancements to Yahoo Mail in the coming months," Yahoo spokeswoman Mary Osako said in response to the Microsoft announcement.


Ask Jeeves also plans to grant its email subscribers more storage room. Earlier this year, the search company acquired Internet Search Holdings, including My Way, The Excite Network and iWon.com, which all serve Web surfers with free email. Ask Jeeves plans to give each of the sites' email subscribers 125MB of free storage, up from an allottment of 3MB to 6MB previously.


Separately, Microsoft said it will offer free antivirus software to scan emails before they appear in a user's in-box.


CNET News.com's Stefanie Olsen contributed to this report.



link (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,39020369,39158497,00.htm)

Good, I was getting bored deleting stuff :)

Still not as good as GMail though. 2MB to 250MB :eek:? That's a huge increase. And the GMail domino affect continues...

Thats for free accounts. Premium is 2GB. Hotmail just beat Yahoo. Through I migh get a Yahho account just to increase the number of accounts I have. :mischief: Google still owns free email. I still find it funny that I am in possion of the most wanted thing on the internet. Gmail invites.

Hmm, this is kinda convenient. I don't get E-mails THIS often, but I have my Hotmail through my Outlook, so I put everything important from my Pop3 thingie to my other Inbox. Its weird, but it works.

Thats for free accounts. Premium is 2GB. Hotmail just beat Yahoo. Through I migh get a Yahho account just to increase the number of accounts I have. :mischief: Google still owns free email. I still find it funny that I am in possion of the most wanted thing on the internet. Gmail invites.

Yes, I wish I had GMail invites. I must invite people! Those that I haven't already reserved (with certain people ;)), I will probably lotto off.

I wonder if they'll have Hotmail version 2.0 invites that you can purchase or something. Sounds like a good way to make money...

I have 4 left.:p One is reseved for thor. :)

[dance][dance] Thank you google! That's a half gig storage I have now! Woot!

You know, MC, if you wanted to give me an invite, I wouldn't say no! (Not that I'm asking, tho!)

This will be nice since I've been having to delete plenty of PBEM emails recently... Just hope that it doesn't make hotmail perform worse because of more users...

[dance][dance] Thank you google! That's a half gig storage I have now! Woot!

You know, MC, if you wanted to give me an invite, I wouldn't say no! (Not that I'm asking, tho!)

You actually have a quater gig :p.

I think he probably uses Yahoo as well... I'll be up to 3.25GBs although the 2GB account can't attach files. Oh and I also have another account which I'm not sure whether that one actually has a size limit...

[dance][dance] Thank you google! That's a half gig storage I have now! Woot!

You know, MC, if you wanted to give me an invite, I wouldn't say no! (Not that I'm asking, tho!)

Send me an e mail adress. I got plenty left :nya: :D

I'm well chuffed their updating their space, 250 gig will be great, I can finally save all those funny pics I get sent.

But I'm still going for a gmail account just so I can get an email address thats just steviejay instead of having steviejay_1984-2002 or something stupid like that

Actuall, I'm at .8 gig now.... (soon more!) Got three Yahoo, and just activated another hotmail. Rather, I'll be at .8 this fall.

MC - Check your PM's....

I wondered when they were going to rid of that 2MB limit

It does seem extremely low to be only offering 2MB when everyone else is offering a lot more...

It does seem extremely low to be only offering 2MB when everyone else is offering a lot more...

Yeah. I've never understood this myself. :confused: However when 90% of my e mails are from CDG and CFC....

Yeah. I've never understood this myself. :confused: However when 90% of my e mails are from CDG and CFC....

I never understand why people subscribe to threads :p Seems as if you want to be spammed...

Seems as if you want to be spammed...

Not really. :p I am now however using my hotmail account for spam. :) :D

I never understand why people subscribe to threads :p
Because I would forget to check the threads other wise :p

Not really. :p I am now however using my hotmail account for spam. :) :D

Because I would forget to check the threads other wise :p

You quoted my post the wrong way round...

I just check the threads I want to check, I don't need reminding.

Really, the joke is on us. How many users are going to use even a fraction of 100, 250 or 1000 MB? :lol:

If we are not paying how do we lose out?

We don't, but people act like its such a big deal.

We don't, but people act like its such a big deal.

Well lots of storage space is fine with me. :D More space in my hotmail account means I don't have to delte the spam in there as often.

You quoted my post the wrong way round...



I accidently deleted the first sentence from the first quote after I had copied it, so I just did it wrong way round as I was to lazy to fix it. :D

a gig email is pretty hefty I must admit but I'd quite like that. My friends and I send each other lots of funny pictures so being able to save all these would certainly relieve the bordom suffered during a three hour server management class

Really, the joke is on us. How many users are going to use even a fraction of 100, 250 or 1000 MB? :lol:

I agree, it's like the movies making the popcorn sizes bigger. When given more space than one actually needs, it's human nature to try to fill up the space as much as possible, even though it is unnecessary. One such example is people emailing random pictures to each other for no other reason than to fill up space (guilty as charged).

It would take a lot of pictures to fill up all that space...

I agree, it's like the movies making the popcorn sizes bigger. .

Cept you pay three times as much for twice as much as before. ;)

@Dell: Care to guess how many? :p

Depends on the size of the pics. And on whether it's a jpg or a bmp.

It would take a lot of pictures to fill up all that space...

Photoshop, it takes you places. I usually use photoshop to make image sizes smaller, but now I'm doing the opposite. :p

I'm going to guess around 1500 pictures although it really would depend on the average size of the picture, what format you were using and plenty of other factors...

Well, this is cool, except the fact that Hotmail is still terrible. For example, Yahoo gives you 4 months before they deactivate your account. Hotmail gives you 10 freakin' days before you lose all your contact and email, and just 1 month before freezing it and bouncing back all emails. Then they give you 3 months before they permanently delete your account. I mean...jesus...I'm not gonna log in every 10 days just to keep my contacts and email.

Sounds like M$ is running low on server space. :lol:


I guess they are just plain evil, though.

Well, this is cool, except the fact that Hotmail is still terrible. For example, Yahoo gives you 4 months before they deactivate your account. Hotmail gives you 10 freakin' days before you lose all your contact and email, and just 1 month before freezing it and bouncing back all emails. Then they give you 3 months before they permanently delete your account. I mean...jesus...I'm not gonna log in every 10 days just to keep my contacts and email.

Get your facts straight :p


The account policies that govern your use of Hotmail are detailed in our Online Help. Please note that you must sign into your Hotmail account at least once every 30 days. If you do not, your account will become inactive. After being inactive for 90 days, it will be deleted. You may want to save this message so you always have a handy link to this important information.

MarineCorp:
1 month = 30 days
3 months = 90 days

And if they removed the 10 day "freeze," good for them, they needed to remove that.

MarineCorp:
1 month = 30 days
3 months = 90 days

And if they removed the 10 day "freeze," good for them, they needed to remove that.

I am fully aware of how long a month is. However you were not only refering to the length of time befire they delted it.

If there was a 10 day freeze then effectively no one using hotmail would be able to go on holiday and expect their account to be active when they come back...

I reckon that gmail is just a storage-snowball ploy by hard disk manufacturers to increase their share price :p

Really, the joke is on us. How many users are going to use even a fraction of 100, 250 or 1000 MB? :lol:

The theory is that in the very near future with only a small relative increase in upstream bandwidth availablilty, when your on the phone to your sister and she says "hey, send me the photo's of your wedding" etc, ad nasuem, people can just send them 400 photo's to their gmail account - its ftp for the less-technical -thats why I have a gmail account, Im a dumbschmuck ;)

If there was a 10 day freeze then effectively no one using hotmail would be able to go on holiday and expect their account to be active when they come back...
It's what I remember from my old 2000-2001 days of using Hotmail. I'd not log in for a couple of weeks and come back to see a "Your account is frozen" message from Hotmail, as well as all my address book gone.

Thats strange since I'm sure that I've been using MSN and hotmail for the same amount of time as posting at CFC and never remember seeing my account being frozen after going on holiday...

I'm beyond happy with Yahoo. Hotmail will never be able to shake off it's Microsoft affiliations.

http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/

:mischief:

Hotmail will never be able to shake off it's Microsoft affiliations.

Why is that a problem?

Thats strange since I'm sure that I've been using MSN and hotmail for the same amount of time as posting at CFC and never remember seeing my account being frozen after going on holiday...

It never happened to me either, and I've gone on holiday for more than 10 days, and not had my account frozen.

http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/

:mischief:


Been there done that. Yet to recive any spam what so ever.

Why is that a problem?

Because I always have the feeling in the back of my mind that another huge MS security hole will be found.

Because I always have the feeling in the back of my mind that another huge MS security hole will be found.

I'm sure there are holes elsewhere its just that not as many people try to find them...

Therefore it's safer.

IN your mind it's safer. :p

Therefore it's safer.

But its a false sense of safety...

Just got this like 5 seconds ago. Woot! More spam can fill my inbox! :D


Dear MSN® Hotmail® Member:

As a valued MSN Hotmail Member, we want you to know that there are some exciting changes coming soon to your account that will help you do more, receive more and store more than ever before. And it's FREE.

That's not all. We're rolling out email antivirus protection as well as enhanced storage to help meet your growing needs. This will make MSN Hotmail, a world class email service that both scans and cleans ingoing and outgoing email for viruses and worms before they enter your inbox.

In addition to delivering world-class antivirus protection, you can also look forward to an upgrade in your storage capacity. In fact, you'll receive 125 times your current email storage with the introduction of a 250 MB inbox as well as the ability to send attachments up to 10 MB.


We'd like to thank you for being a valued MSN Hotmail Member and look forward to telling you about more exciting changes to your Hotmail account in the coming months.

We will send an update on when and how these exciting changes will be made to your account within two weeks. Please check your email for this important update.

Thank you, and enjoy the good news.

MSN Hotmail Member Services

Just got this like 5 seconds ago. Woot! More spam can fill my inbox! :D
Notice how both Yahoo and Hotmail suck up to you, both of them thanking you for being loyal. :lol:

I haven't got that email yet... Unless I accidentally deleted it as spam...

I don't know about Hotmail, but the Yahoo one was a redirect the first time you logged in after they increased the mailbox size.

Notice how both Yahoo and Hotmail suck up to you, both of them thanking you for being loyal. :lol:

If I wathink I would be using it as a spam account :lol:

But its a false sense of safety...

If less people are trying to hack it then less security holes will be found. :p

One day they will change and start hacking your 'safe' software :p

Finally got the email about the size increase but came home to find the usual warning of nearly exceeding the size limit...

One major reason I will not stay with hotmail is because when you follow a link in the email hotmail opens it in a new page that is a hotmail/new-page hybrid. I hate that. Oh, and the flashing advertising!!! I will never buy your shizmit! Is there even advertising on gmal? I have never noticed. - Not yet.

:hmm: Are MS only doing this in the US? Offering one service to those that have alternatives, and not to others?

munzy - they have text ads to the right of your message, and that's all the ads you get with Gmail. Although I hate those [insert favorite word here] because Opera doesn't support their encryption, which means I have to boot up Firefox or IE to use Gmail.

The Hotmail frame is indeed annoying, which is why I never used Hotmail for subscription forums like this one. Ad Muncher (http://www.admuncher.com) has a nice filter to get rid of those stupid frames (you have to download it; it's through advanced filters).

I use hotmail for spam. :D You hardly notice the text ads.:) I wonder where my hotmail upgrade is? It's been two weeks. :mad: I am getting tired of emptying my account of spam every few days.:rolleyes:

I think that since I have gmail that is the main reason I don't use Opera anymore.

About hotmail: I do have to admit that I like their spam filtering a lot, I get so many mails to my junk box - it is nice not having to move them there manually.

I seem to be quite lucky at avoiding spam... My google account still remains pretty much empty...

Yeah. I haven't gotten any spam in there either. My hotmail is a different story. In two days it had over 30 e mails. All spam.

What are the major upgrades I've heard about with MSN Hotmail?
MSN has rolled out free e-mail anti-virus protection to all MSN Hotmail customers worldwide, making Hotmail the only free global e-mail service to both scan and clean incoming and outgoing e-mail for viruses and worms before they can enter your inbox and risk infecting your PC.
Beginning this fall, MSN will increase free Hotmail account inbox storage by 125 times its current capacity to 250MB. Additionally, you will be able to send attachments up to 10MB.

In addition, free Hotmail customers will also receive MSN Calendar free, enabling both individual and shared calendaring with your storage upgrade.

I want my upgrade now. And people wonder why no one trust Microsoft.

Why does not receiveing the update immediately make Microsoft untrustworthy?

Becuase they said that the upgrade would take place in two weeks FOUR WEEKS AGO! :mad:

Ah okay... Althought I didn't get the email until more recently and I don't really need the extra space unless I am going to be unable to check my emails for several weeks. Btw with the new upgrade will hotmail abandon their policy of closing inactive accounts or extend the deadline as otherwise the extra space probably won' be used as I think I will still delete old emails that I no longer need.

Where did you read the no more deletion part? :confused: I never heard that.

No I said I wonder if they will change it... There probably should have been a question mark...

No I said I wonder if they will change it... There probably should have been a question mark...

Oh whoops. :) :D :blush:

I want my upgrade now. And people wonder why no one trust Microsoft.

I didn't used to wonder but now you got me wondering.

Wondering about what? :confused:

Wondering about what? :confused:
Er, why Hotmail hasn't upgraded yet?

Er, why Hotmail hasn't upgraded yet?
Maybe but I don't think so.

Does anyone have a date for when hotmail will finally update as if I'm unlucky and get 4 or 5 PBEM saves over the same period then they might not all fit and I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to move several onto another email account.

pft, they haven't said anything. They just keep saying that its "GOING" to be upgraded. But then again, last year we heard that Half Life 2 was "GOING" to be released, so I'm not keeping my hopes up.

Dell, sorry but quick off topic question. what are PBEM's like? they any fun? I tried to play one with my mate ages ago but it never seemed to work.

If you are playing with someone in real life then playing a game of Civ mp in real time might make more sense since it should be easier to be onlie at the same time. The main benefit of PBEMs and which makes them fun is that you can have several people playing and passing the save between each other so that it is possible to have multiplayer games where deals can be formed between the human players and it allows scenarios to be played at their best. I.e. playing the Napoleonic scenario with every slot filled with a human player makes for a very interesting game.

So PBEMs can be fun and their main advantage is that they allow a large number of people to play together when they might not normally be able to.

If it's been a month and they haven't activated bigger accounts, I would move some PBEMs to different accounts, rather than have them embarassingly bounce back. Or tell your group of your alternative email account in case they do bounce.

Does anyone have a date for when hotmail will finally update as if I'm unlucky and get 4 or 5 PBEM saves over the same period then they might not all fit and I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to move several onto another email account.

Well they said fall so I wouldn't expect it to be before October. :rolleyes:

I did ask for a date... No need to use rolleyes...

I did ask for a date... No need to use rolleyes...

The rolleyes was directed at M$. Not you. :p

EDIT: Speaking of rolleyes, I think it's time to go bug TF yet again. :( :hmm: