View Full Version : English media have gone too far: UEFA


Inter4
Jun 28, 2004, 05:01 PM
Here's a link..

http://www.soccerway.com/news/full/index.php?page=details&area=1088431690

Discuss, Discuss! :hammer:

MrPresident
Jun 28, 2004, 05:12 PM
A European organisation telling the British tabloids what to print. I can't see this one back-firing.

Tallanas
Jun 28, 2004, 05:25 PM
I can't say that I read any of the red-tops, but I also don't see what it has to do with UEFA...

Does UEFA ever do anything useful?

phoenix_night
Jun 28, 2004, 05:39 PM
Well they're right...

What's to discuss? The conduct of large portions of the English media has been disgraceful. What do you expect from the likes of The Sun though?

Hitro
Jun 28, 2004, 05:40 PM
A European organisation telling the British tabloids what to print. I can't see this one back-firing.
One with a French name and a German guy speaking in that even. :undecide:

Still, this has to be one of those very rare cases in which UEFA are the good ones.

MrPresident
Jun 28, 2004, 05:44 PM
It wasn't a foul!!

Abulafia
Jun 28, 2004, 05:45 PM
The Scottish Sun shows just how bad the Sun - in any form - really is: because Scotland weren't in the Euro competition the paper decided to back Croatia.

The reason? Croatia were the only team that didn't have a sex ban. :rolleyes:

phoenix_night
Jun 28, 2004, 05:49 PM
It wasn't a foul!!

Says England...

MrPresident
Jun 28, 2004, 05:52 PM
Actually, says me.

anarchywrksbest
Jun 28, 2004, 06:22 PM
Swiss Banker... hehehe.

steviejay
Jun 28, 2004, 06:42 PM
it was so a foul, and I'm no just saying that since I'm Scottish. Player obstructing goalie whilst team mate heads ball in = foul. If someone had done that to James there would have been a Crusade against whoever done it, this is just England fans .... no sorry, English media refusing to believe that their team didn't win it due to the fact that they say they're going to win it every time and you's don't.

Shabbaman
Jun 29, 2004, 03:37 AM
It was definately a foul. And publicizing his adress and pictures of his wife and children, that's sickening.

Dell19
Jun 29, 2004, 03:43 AM
West Midlands news also published the email address and went on to give an idiotic link which turned further and further against the Swiss... It ended with Tim Henman saying he was glad for getting revenge by knocking a Swiss player out of a tournament... Its stupid that these things are regularily published and seen to be acceptable...

Dr Jimbo
Jun 29, 2004, 03:47 AM
Not that I've any sympathy for them, but the tabloids can say what they like. UEFA can also say what they like, so long as they don't expect to get their point across to rabid, hard-done-by little Englanders who read the Sun

Evertonian
Jun 29, 2004, 03:59 AM
Well, to be honest I've mixed feelings. I hate the english press and their awful xenophobic lowest-common-denominator attitude to all things, not just this.

However I have also been very frustrated for a long time that referees are insufficiently accountable for bad decisions they make. The burning sense of injustice I still feel about some bad refereeing decisions against my team more than a decade ago shows the power they have, and I'm sure there are others like me who are similarly lacking in perspective. :twitch: Your life basically gets ruined by these self absorbed little Hitlers and they get away scot free!


The ironic thing in this case is that I agree with steviejay and Shabbaman that it was a foul, Terry clearly had his hand on the goalie's shoulder. But the decision to give a free kick against Rooney for the challenge when he broke his foot and lost his boot was absolutely disgraceful. (And just shows the victimisation against all things Everton I was alluding to in the paragraph above :lol: )

MrPresident
Jun 29, 2004, 05:30 AM
Player obstructing goalie whilst team mate heads ball in
How is it obstruction when the keeper jumped into Terry? Obstruction is when you move into the path of an opposition player. If anything, Terry was the one being fouled.

col
Jun 29, 2004, 05:35 AM
I think this debate too has run its course. Back on topic please.

bholed
Jun 29, 2004, 06:17 AM
The Scottish Sun shows just how bad the Sun - in any form - really is: because Scotland weren't in the Euro competition the paper decided to back Croatia.

The reason? Croatia were the only team that didn't have a sex ban. :rolleyes:


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Think the reason the Scottish Hun backed Croatia was similarities to population and more likely their "star" striker has signed for rangers.

Agree with Phoenix_night, its sour grapes by the English but expected thou, If it was at the other end they'd be moaning there heads off, that it was a foul!.

Hands on the goalie foul...

bholed
Jun 29, 2004, 06:26 AM
Well, to be honest I've mixed feelings. I hate the english press and their awful xenophobic lowest-common-denominator attitude to all things, not just this.

However I have also been very frustrated for a long time that referees are insufficiently accountable for bad decisions they make. The burning sense of injustice I still feel about some bad refereeing decisions against my team more than a decade ago shows the power they have, and I'm sure there are others like me who are similarly lacking in perspective. :twitch: Your life basically gets ruined by these self absorbed little Hitlers and they get away scot free!


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Come up to my league and you see not just bad decisions but very bluntly, openly biased decisions in favour of a certain team in blue from Glasgow!!

Football for big games I think should try and emulate rugby and use on the spot TV evidence which should be used to aid the referree and also help put an end to unfair decisions.
Also they should be able to speak to the press and justify their decisions which not sure in England but in Scotland refs are told not to discuss matters to the press which as you stated does nothing to cool the the burning sense of injustice.

Lambert Simnel
Jun 29, 2004, 07:29 AM
I think UEFA are right to defend their referee, and the reaction of the UK tabloids has been appalling. On the other hand, the UK tabloids' view of Europeans has always been very dodgy....

col
Jun 29, 2004, 09:30 AM
I think this debate too has run its course.
Thread closed.