View Full Version : Time for Sox fans to worry yet?


BassDude726
Jun 30, 2004, 10:19 AM
Last time I checked, the Red Sox are 5.5 games behind the Yankees. As the season progresses, I grow continually more worried. If the Sox don't do well in the Yankees/Sox series this week, I think we might have a serious problem. Usually I don't start worrying until late August, but I'm jittery this season for some reason. Maybe it has something to do with our incredible season last year, and I think we used up all our luck for the next few seasons. Any thoughts?

dgfred
Jun 30, 2004, 10:25 AM
Last time I checked, the Red Sox are 5.5 games behind the Yankees. As the season progresses, I grow continually more worried. If the Sox don't do well in the Yankees/Sox series this week, I think we might have a serious problem. Usually I don't start worrying until late August, but I'm jittery this season for some reason. Maybe it has something to do with our incredible season last year, and I think we used up all our luck for the next few seasons. Any thoughts?

Sox have a good team, but beaten last night by Yanks. Yanks are HOT, Sox
are NOT. Baseball tonight stated they need at least split, or time might be
to worry. Boston's defense has really hurt them lately :eek: :( .

I'm a Phillies fan from the 70's, they can't beat the Marlins :mad: .

BassDude726
Jun 30, 2004, 12:15 PM
Boston's defense and our pitching staff are what keeps us going. For the life of me, I find it hard to believe that we have the best hitter in the AL East (Manny) yet the rest of the offense can't come up with the numbers to support him.

dgfred
Jun 30, 2004, 01:52 PM
Boston's defense and our pitching staff are what keeps us going. For the life of me, I find it hard to believe that we have the best hitter in the AL East (Manny) yet the rest of the offense can't come up with the numbers to support him.

Manny is an awesome hitter :eek: . That was some catch he made the
other night :scan: and was robbed of another HR by Abreu :D . Maybe
Nomar will catch fire and the rest will pick it up a notch ;) .

BassDude726
Jun 30, 2004, 02:10 PM
I hope so. Maybe this is the season for the Sox, since we usually suck in September, but we're sucking in June this year. Fingers are crossed.

panzer_kevlar
Jun 30, 2004, 05:42 PM
I am going to see the Red Sox play Atlanta on Saturday and Sunday :D . Usually I am a Braves fan, but because we suck so badly this year and because I want the Sox to beat the Yankees in the AL East I think I'll root for the Sox.... Bah, I'll just wear my Braves shirt and my Sox hat and root for both! :goodjob:

Benderino
Jun 30, 2004, 06:24 PM
Oops, I thought this was about--you know--the other Sox. First place, baby!

dgfred
Jul 01, 2004, 08:51 AM
They lost another to THEM last night. The announcers said the Sox had
given up the MOST unearned runs in the AL :eek: - They need some D.
They really need to win the next one or the word may be PANIC :help: :shakehead .

Azale
Jul 01, 2004, 05:37 PM
lol, Red Sox fans are always worrying ;)

Astros fans are the ones that should be worrying, a terrific team and we still might not make the postseason.

downtown
Jul 01, 2004, 05:52 PM
I would worry if I was a bosox fan. If they dont pull off a trade to grab a good glove, its over. They are prob already too far back to get the div crown, but the wild card is still within reach

the team is running out of time to win tho...before those big contracts run out

dgfred
Jul 02, 2004, 08:47 AM
lol, Red Sox fans are always worrying ;)

Astros fans are the ones that should be worrying, a terrific team and we still might not make the postseason.

What a heartbreaker for the Sox last night :cry: . Really good game to
watch :scan: . I thought they had it for sure on Manny's HR :eek: .

My daughter (13yrs) is a huge Astros fan, Bagwell is her favorite player and
has been since she was about 5. Beltran is some player :king: , he has been
putting on a show :eek: .

panzer_kevlar
Jul 05, 2004, 07:43 PM
:eek: Holy crap! The Braves killed the Sox last night (10-4)!!! I was at that game :D . Lucky for me, I'm a Braves fan. No worries though, Bosox are my favorite team in the AL because I hate the Yankees so much :)

blindside
Jul 05, 2004, 08:42 PM
What the hell. Those goddamn Mets beat the Yankees again. Bastards.

Syterion
Jul 05, 2004, 09:16 PM
While I live in Massachusetts, I hate the Sox because I simply cannot stand all the Sox fans at school. We have announcements on the status of the Sox playoffs. It's insane. Although like a good Bostonian I of course hate the Yankees for robbing the Celtics of the title for most championships.

Sanaz
Jul 06, 2004, 12:31 AM
They've only made the playoffs two consecutive years once since the Babe left town, in '98 and '99. Since they are a team of history and destiny, I think there's no way they're in again this year. Not with Ortiz pulling a Buckner in NY again.:)

Let's face it Sox fans, if the curse were lifted you wouldn't know what to talk about.:)

Of course being a life long Mets and Yankees fan, I love watching the despair. I'm sadistic like that, but I guess we all are. :D

At least you have the Pats, and next year to hope for.

dgfred
Jul 07, 2004, 10:22 AM
It looks as if the panic is starting :eek: . The paper yesterday said they were looking for starting pitching, that Pedro & Curt were not enough :rolleyes: .

General Brown
Jul 07, 2004, 12:00 PM
No we need a better third starter, now I hear Nomar goes to LA for Odalis Perez and a few prospects :S
And last night was very convincing, and even thoguh it's a longshot, we still have a shot at the division, if the Yanks keep losing. Anyway, Texas is due to falter, and hopefully we can take wildcard.
We need better defense, but good news is Nomar and Mueller are looking good, maybe they can carry us a little ways. Lowe looks like a wreck, I used to say Lowe's on the mound, good to get a win, now it's Loser Lowe's on the mound, better get 20 runs if we have a chance to win. Imagine if we didn't get Schilling?

SesnOfWthr
Jul 08, 2004, 02:33 PM
Nomar isn't going anywhere if we don't get something real in return. There is talk of a possible three way deal for The Big Unit, but I don't see it happening.

Lowe is too much of a headcase to be playing without a contract. He thinks every game he has to pitch the game of his life. He's just too emotional to be able to bounce back from giving up a couple runs.

I think the gap is down to six and a half right now, and we've still got 9 or 10 games left vs the Yanks.

I think we finally got a spark from someone coming off the DL - Mueller. Who woulda guessed it?

If there is a god of everything good and holy in this world, Rocket will stay down there in Houston, and not come to either Boston (I don't want to root for him) or NY (I don't want to play against him).

BassDude726
Jul 08, 2004, 03:37 PM
Lowe must go.

God, this season is killing me. The unearned runs! Everytime I see one coming I scream "Oh the humanity!" and fall to my knees. I swear, the Sox have beat themselves more then they've been beaten by other teams this season.

SesnOfWthr
Jul 08, 2004, 03:50 PM
Yeah, those have been killing me too. :(

It's funny, but true. Last year, every game, every play just had a certain feeling to it. This year, not so much. I dare not say more....

Azale
Jul 09, 2004, 08:25 AM
Wow, the BoSox won a close game. After they blew a 6-point lead :p

What was the last team they swept?

dgfred
Jul 09, 2004, 08:56 AM
Foulke has 2 blown saves in a row :eek: , very unusual for him :confused: .
Next thing you will hear is they are looking a new closer :mischief: .

SesnOfWthr
Jul 09, 2004, 09:16 AM
let's see .... I think the last team they swept was KC when they came to Fenway. I believe that was after the Yankees series anyhow....

I think the problem with Foulke is that he's not getting enough work. I think he has come into the game more when they have a 6 or so run lead lately than not. Like Wakefield, he's a guy that needs to work consistently. I mean he did have almost a week off.

And no, we don't need a closer, but I'm not holding my breath for the Big Unit either, even though Theo is gonna be putting on the full-court press next week.

Azale
Jul 09, 2004, 03:03 PM
I just heard on the Hot List that Randy Johnson has waived his no-trade clause and wouldnt mind going to the BoSox....or the Yankees.

dgfred
Jul 09, 2004, 03:10 PM
I just heard on the Hot List that Randy Johnson has waived his no-trade clause and wouldnt mind going to the BoSox....or the Yankees.

If the Yanks get him, bye bye BoSox for this year :wavey: . If BoSox get
him it should be VERY interesting pennant race :scan: :cooool: .

SesnOfWthr
Jul 09, 2004, 07:32 PM
That's funny, all I've heard on the radio today is that he's willing to waive his clause, and that he's VERY interested in going to......














THE YANKEES!! :suicide:

delsully
Jul 10, 2004, 05:56 PM
this is the most overhyped rivalry in all of american sports

Daniel Khan
Jul 10, 2004, 07:11 PM
Almost as bad as OSU Michigan.

:p

SesnOfWthr
Jul 10, 2004, 08:35 PM
this is the most overhyped rivalry in all of american sports

If you think this is "overhyped", you must not spend any time in the NE. We are a very passionate people when it comes to our sports around here.

Show me another rivalry that has raged this long, and with this intensity, where one team always comes out ahead of the other.

For me, hating the Yankees isn't a choice, it's heritage. ;)

Azale
Jul 10, 2004, 09:01 PM
Yea, if thats overhyped, what isnt.

For me, Dallas vs Washington in the NFL is very overrated. Given that we own them ;)

SesnOfWthr
Jul 10, 2004, 09:12 PM
Yea, if thats overhyped, what isnt.

For me, Dallas vs Washington in the NFL is very overrated. Given that we own them ;)

Yeah, even though I hate the Cowboys (goes back ten or so years now...), I have to admit I thought it was hilarious that for all Snyder's money, he can't buy a win from the Cowgirls. Even when they went 5-11 or whatever, two of those wins were vs Washington. :lol:

Sanaz
Jul 11, 2004, 12:10 AM
this is the most overhyped rivalry in all of american sportsA rivalry would require Boston to win occasionally (when it matters, not in April).:) They couldn't even beat the Mets, the Yankees' younger brother, the one chance they had. :D

The problem is, Boston is always good. But never quite good enough. That must be depressing. Well, for them, not me. :lol:

Oh, the pain if Boston comes through this year. They have the current advantage with the starting rotation. If the Yanks get the Unit, that's it. If the Sox get him, look out, it will get very interesting. Would Schilling, Pedro, and Johnson lose a playoff series? I can't see it, if they all can stay healthy.

aaminion00
Jul 11, 2004, 01:02 AM
What a pity last year there wasn't a Cubs - Red Sox series. Cursed fate left baseball fans out of a sox or cubs title once again.

WillJ
Jul 11, 2004, 02:08 AM
Time for Sox fans to worry yet?T plus 86 years.

:p

Sir Bugsy
Jul 24, 2004, 01:35 PM
The Sox figure out another way to lose to the Yanks. I have to tell you, after 40 years of watching this, it starts to wear on you. :crazyeye:

Tomoyo
Jul 24, 2004, 02:56 PM
Would Schilling, Pedro, and Johnson lose a playoff series?
You would surprised.

9.5 games back! :eek: We almost must win the other two games in this series, and then we have to settle for the wild card.

Sesn said that New Englanders are very serious about their sports. Here in NYC, the Mets fans keep on talking about the farm system, and the Yankee fans aren't very serious, expecting the team to win every WS. For some reason I tend to be much more serious with sports than other sports fans here, not including the only other Red Sox fan in all of NYC. Maybe it has something to do with losing? :p

dgfred
Jul 25, 2004, 04:40 PM
What do you guys think about yesterday's fight? In my opinion T Nixon and

D Ortiz need a good :spank: , if not a :hammer: , both of them attempted

cheap shots on Sturtz as he was on the ground wrestling. Interesting to

see what would have happened if Ortiz would have made it up to bat the

next inning :scan: :confused: . I would have pegged him GOOOOOD ;) .

blindside
Jul 25, 2004, 04:42 PM
Sox play dirty. They're not going to even get into the playoffs. The A's are far better.

Tomoyo
Jul 25, 2004, 04:59 PM
In my opinion Sturtze needs :spank: too because he actually initiated that mini fight.

Anyway, any Bostonians care to tell me what the Boston Globe (or any local newspaper) says about it? The local newspapers here in NYC are really harsh toward the Red Sox, as well as acting really optimistic (from a Yankees' point of view)

Helton
Jul 25, 2004, 08:13 PM
Sox play dirty. They're not going to even get into the playoffs. The A's are far better.

heh, with Huddy hurt and Zito performing poorly, I'd have to disagree with ya. :p

It's nice to see A-Rod feel some pain, too. :thumbsup:

jpowers
Jul 26, 2004, 07:40 AM
It's about time someone did something about A-Rod. Now I'd like to see Soriano win the MVP and Texas beat out the Yankees in the playoffs...

dgfred
Jul 26, 2004, 09:32 AM
It's about time someone did something about A-Rod. Now I'd like to see Soriano win the MVP and Texas beat out the Yankees in the playoffs...

Varitek didn't do anything except scratch A-Rod's face :blush: . He was
awfully brave to talk junk with his mask still on :rolleyes: , and almost got
bodyslammed :eek: , plus he hurt his wrist :shakehead.

Texas would have a good chance to beat the Yanks, they can hit with them
;) , something Oakland hasn't been able to do :sad: . It is just a question of
if there pitching will hold out and they can make the playoffs :scan: .

downtown
Jul 26, 2004, 09:35 AM
that last sox/yankees seires was HUGE for Boston. While they didnt make up that much room in the standings, they look to have their mojo back. THe sox are a little streaky, but when they have the fire with them, they can be the best team in baseball.
Makes up for those poor showings in baltimore

Tomoyo
Jul 26, 2004, 10:14 AM
It's all the Orioles' fault!

They're 10-1 against Boston and 2-9 against the Yankees. :nono:

:crazyeye:

dgfred
Jul 26, 2004, 11:53 AM
It's all the Orioles' fault!

They're 10-1 against Boston and 2-9 against the Yankees. :nono:

:crazyeye:

Orioles are :cool: , but they have that same "complex" vs the Yankees. :rolleyes: . For some reason they usually hit very good vs the
Red Sox :crazyeye: . Now there is a team that NEEDS some pitching-
starters and relievers :( .

delsully
Jul 26, 2004, 02:54 PM
Anyone who goes 1-10 against the O's doesn't deserve to make the post season. Fortunately, they have a chance to lose 8 more against them.

Sir Bugsy
Jul 26, 2004, 04:35 PM
I love the idea of Soriano winning MVP and Texas beating the Yanks in the playoffs.

If you look at the tapes, you can't see Ortiz actually throwing a punch. I know the Fox guys said he did, but I haven't seen any evidence of it yet. The hearings should be interesting.

Tomoyo
Jul 26, 2004, 06:40 PM
They (not the Fox Guys) don't say anything about Tanyon Sturtze doing anything offensive, even though it was clear that he grabbed Gabe Kapler by the neck to fight one-on-one with him (didn't turn out that way).

Too bad this happened during the summer when so many people are on vacation. There are some people that I would have liked to see the reactions of... :(

One more thing:

The views presented in this broadcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Fox
Or something like that.

dgfred
Jul 27, 2004, 09:54 AM
I love the idea of Soriano winning MVP and Texas beating the Yanks in the playoffs.

If you look at the tapes, you can't see Ortiz actually throwing a punch. I know the Fox guys said he did, but I haven't seen any evidence of it yet. The hearings should be interesting.

Although very sissy like, he definately was trying :mischief: , I was watching
on tv and they showed it about 100 times during the game. Trot was the
one that should be :blush: , he tried to throw 3 or 4 sucker punches on
Sturtz while he was down :mad: . I used to like him alot- He is from NC,
Wilmington New Hanover HS and my nephew played against him- but not now.
He deserves the IR, he should have stayed out of it :rolleyes: .

Helton
Jul 27, 2004, 11:23 AM
Well, at least he wasn't spouting profanity like A-Rod was. And what can he do when his teammate is being dragged by the neck? I appreciate his actions. :goodjob:

dgfred
Jul 27, 2004, 12:00 PM
Well, at least he wasn't spouting profanity like A-Rod was. And what can he do when his teammate is being dragged by the neck? I appreciate his actions. :goodjob:

His actions were punk, he could have grabbed Sierra. Oh yeah, he wasn't
on the ground already :rolleyes: . He did probably save his team member from
a :whipped: ing.

Helton
Jul 28, 2004, 01:38 PM
His actions were punk, he could have grabbed Sierra. Oh yeah, he wasn't
on the ground already :rolleyes: . He did probably save his team member from
a :whipped: ing.

Yeah, that's good enough for me. :p

It was all chaos, I can't really blame him for fighting in a brawl. :)

dgfred
Jul 29, 2004, 09:11 AM
Borkowski :confused: , shut down the Red Sox last night, Yanks won.

Are they going to make ANY deals? :scan:

Helton
Jul 29, 2004, 12:38 PM
Hopefully they'll trade Nomar for some talent to a National League team. :P

General Brown
Aug 01, 2004, 11:35 AM
It's all the Orioles' fault!

They're 10-1 against Boston and 2-9 against the Yankees. :nono:

:crazyeye:

The Orioles are only 7-3 against the Sox, definately not 10-1, but either way, it's ugly. And the Nomar trade may help them pull out the WildCard, then Cabrerra will make an error in game 7 of the ALCS, go figure.

Akane
Aug 06, 2004, 08:45 AM
Going to travel to Detroit to take in the Sox at Comerica Park for the first time. I certainly hope that the game's pretty good...
The Sox stand a darn good chance, the Tigers have dropped more than a couple up until now... and Lowe will probably have a decent time tonight. From what I hear, home runs are hard to come by there. :)

dgfred
Aug 06, 2004, 10:08 AM
Going to travel to Detroit to take in the Sox at Comerica Park for the first time. I certainly hope that the game's pretty good...
The Sox stand a darn good chance, the Tigers have dropped more than a couple up until now... and Lowe will probably have a decent time tonight. From what I hear, home runs are hard to come by there. :)

Have a great time, maybe the weather will be OK too :confused: :scan:

Akane
Aug 06, 2004, 10:11 AM
Travel shouldn't be a problem; it'll be mostly sunny all day for the LOOOONG drive as well as mid-seventies for pretty decent comfort. I don't have to worry about long pants or anything at least. :)

SesnOfWthr
Aug 06, 2004, 10:52 AM
And the Nomar trade may help them pull out the WildCard, then Cabrerra will make an error in game 7 of the ALCS, go figure.

For a Bostonian, you don't seem to understand how things work around here.

We'll get to the WS against the Cubs, and lose because Nomar gets three different game winning hits.

It'll be the Curse of the Nomino. :rolleyes:

Akane
Aug 09, 2004, 02:11 PM
Go figure, I watch the one game that the Sox dropped this weekend. :) Anyway though, the defense looked a ton better than I remember it; the Tigers were the ones giving up infield singles on more than one occasion. And Boston had a golden chance to sweep, especially after the Tigers brought in their middle relief with the bases loaded and WALKED in a run. Oh well, they still took two... :)

General Brown
Aug 11, 2004, 11:26 AM
For a Bostonian, you don't seem to understand how things work around here.

We'll get to the WS against the Cubs, and lose because Nomar gets three different game winning hits.

It'll be the Curse of the Nomino. :rolleyes:

Yeah but who ever said we could get to the Series? And btw, Nomar will probably get 4, since he's so healthy now, what happened to his "injury"

ForTheEmpire
Aug 12, 2004, 12:17 AM
BoSox fans:
Why did management trade away Nomar? I mean, he's been the face of your franchise for such a long time, along with Pedro.

And no I can't ridicule your team, for my team has tanked it in it seems (Phils).

SesnOfWthr
Aug 12, 2004, 12:30 AM
Well here's the answer I have come to, and I listen to the talk shows far too much.

1. He was becoming a distraction in the clubhouse
2. It had become clear that there was no chance to resign him after the season
3. He had repeatedly turned down fairly generous offers from the Sox
4. He told us that his injury would require more days off, possibly including a stint on the DL if he was to be healthy for the postseason.
5. His offensive numbers were still good, but his defense was worse than ever, and he was no gold glover to begin with.

@General Brown - The only reason I think we'll get to the series is so the team can find a new way to rip our hearts out - by losing to Nomar.

General Brown
Aug 12, 2004, 02:00 PM
Well do you guys think the Nomar trade was a positive or negative, it seems kind of dissapointing we couldn't get Clement, but Mient and Cabrera I think will do ok, at least defensively. And btw, Cabrera makes 6 Million, a little overpaid if you ask me, anyone know any other soon to be free agent shortstops?

SesnOfWthr
Aug 12, 2004, 03:32 PM
I think that, given the situation, they got what they could for him.

Mientkiewicz (sp?) has already made some great plays at first and has saved some errors, and probably some runs.

Cabrera does seem to be a bit pricey for what you get from him, but there's not going to be much available at short this offseason.

i guess I view it as pretty positive, although I would have liked some pitching.

dgfred
Aug 13, 2004, 08:58 AM
BoSox fans:
Why did management trade away Nomar? I mean, he's been the face of your franchise for such a long time, along with Pedro.

And no I can't ridicule your team, for my team has tanked it in it seems (Phils).

Tanked is a PERFECT word for what they doing :mad: :cry: :rolleyes:

Sir Bugsy
Aug 13, 2004, 10:01 AM
At 9.5 games back of the Yankees, the Sox are going to raise their game now. Or their going to have to battle the Angels for the wild card. If the Angels ever get healthy, the Sox could be in for some trouble.

dgfred
Aug 13, 2004, 10:08 AM
At 9.5 games back of the Yankees, the Sox are going to raise their game now. Or their going to have to battle the Angels for the wild card. If the Angels ever get healthy, the Sox could be in for some trouble.

The Angels seem to be gaining MO :eek: .

Sir Bugsy
Aug 13, 2004, 10:13 AM
The Sox have won 7 of the last 10. The Yankees are playing at the same pace. Incredibly, .700 baseball will probably not be good enough to climb out of their hole in the AL East.

General Brown
Aug 18, 2004, 11:08 AM
Forget the division, we need the Rangers, Angels, Indians, and A's to lose :(

dgfred
Aug 19, 2004, 09:35 AM
Forget the division, we need the Rangers, Angels, Indians, and A's to lose :(

Things are getting really tight :eek: :scan: .

dgfred
Aug 20, 2004, 08:36 AM
There is talk of Red Sox getting Kent from Astros :eek: . He is on my
fantasy team-- so, so yr :( .

General Brown
Aug 23, 2004, 10:32 AM
The Astros tried to put Clemens on waivers so the Yanks could get em supposedely. And now that division lead ain't so far away lol.

dgfred
Aug 23, 2004, 10:35 AM
The Astros tried to put Clemens on waivers so the Yanks could get em supposedely. And now that division lead ain't so far away lol.

They are only 5 1/2 out after recent surge! :eek: ;) Getting VERY interesting. :scan:

jonatas
Aug 23, 2004, 11:51 PM
oh man i hope they catch the yankees... go red sox!!

Tomoyo
Aug 24, 2004, 08:35 AM
I go away for 3 weeks, intentionally not looking at the standings, and things are looking much better! (6 1/2 now though)

We really need either the Yankees to slip up or for us to play 8.782 baseball. (Not just for the division)

Best case scenario, we overtake the Yanks, and then the Angels get healthy. :D

General Brown
Aug 25, 2004, 11:04 AM
Lol, I think the Yankees will struggle, but more of the focus should be on the Wildcard, we're tied for lead, and I think Texas is due to falter, like the Royals last year. We have to play at Texas at Ananheim, and Oakland comes in, this decides the season, and then we have to win when they beat on each other. Remember last year down 4 games to the Mariners, they came in and we swept them. We need to do it again.

Sir Bugsy
Aug 25, 2004, 11:09 AM
You don't want to count on winning a wild card. Win the division. Then the Yankees can worry about winning the wild card.

SesnOfWthr
Aug 25, 2004, 12:14 PM
All we need to focus on is winning. However that gets us in to the postseason is fine with me. Personally, I'd rather see them get the division, but that's not worth a whole lot, and I don't think the Evil Empire will falter enough.

We do have our fate in our own hands now. We still have a series with Oakland, Anaheim, and Texas, and two with the Yanks. Will be interesting for sure....

Tomoyo
Aug 25, 2004, 01:44 PM
All we need to focus on is winningReally? :lol:

We are fated to reach the playoffs, but whether we face the Yankees (who will make it too, it's fate) is different. We might lose against the west coast team, or, most probably, win the Division Series, have the Yankees lose theirs to the Twins, and then lose to the Twins in game 7 due to Meintkiewicz having a Mookie Wilson* like ball go through his legs. :crazyeye:

*I could have used a different player to descibe it, but remember, I'm a Mets fan too. :D (EDIT: :mad: )

Akane
Sep 02, 2004, 09:20 AM
Well, only 3.5 back now. Amazing month too, 21-7. That's .750 if my calculations are correct. I would enjoy seeing them keep this pace going for the last month, especially if the Yankees keep falling over their feet.

.750. And I get to travel and see them. And I see them lose one of those games. To the Tigers. Yeesh. :)

Tomoyo
Sep 02, 2004, 10:06 AM
Yep, and things don't seem to be slowing down for us* and the Yankees aren't doing too well. (I know when the Yankees are doing badly because all the media here would be saying that "we are still in the lead" instead of "we are going to lose them") I wish after the Angels series the Angels start to pick up their game. :D

*I used "us" because the Mets are pretty much out of the running. :(

Sir Bugsy
Sep 02, 2004, 10:11 AM
You can't count on an Indian massacre every night, but 22-0 was very nice to see :D

Things are looking up. Schilling is pitching better, the IR is starting to empty; while down in the Bronx the mediocre pitching and defense continues.

SesnOfWthr
Sep 02, 2004, 10:14 AM
Boy wouldn't that be something - catch the Yanks and have the Angels catch thm too...

Course that would spoil the fun of beating them ourselves. :D

*comes back to reality*

I'm just happy we're beating the Angels and the Rangers are stumbling just in time to come to town.

jonatas
Sep 02, 2004, 10:41 AM
Yeah Boston has had one awesome month!!! we got the momentum now...

jonatas
Sep 04, 2004, 01:40 AM
ok boston is 2 and a half games behind the yankees.... time to get excited yet??

Tomoyo
Sep 17, 2004, 08:38 AM
The big series starts today... I'm ready. New avatar and all.

SesnOfWthr
Sep 17, 2004, 09:33 AM
....except the first two games may get rained out. :(

Then it will be wacky trying to fit them both in somewhere. I haven't really looked at the schedules, but I know they don't have any common days off....

Boston really need to take 4 or 5 of the six to have a good shot at the division. We can't count on the Yankees stumbling anymore down the home stretch.

Tomoyo
Sep 17, 2004, 09:36 AM
Bah! It would be better just to let them play in the rain! Seriously.

SesnOfWthr
Sep 17, 2004, 09:39 AM
That would be quite a show. :)

Unfortunately, baseball and it's players are wimps, by and large.

dgfred
Sep 17, 2004, 02:27 PM
This is the Red Sox big chance to knock off the ghost of miseries past, can
they do it? :scan: I think Boston has the better all-around team but the
Yanks always 'have their number' :mischief: .

jonatas
Sep 17, 2004, 03:11 PM
Boston's gotta take it one game at a time right now.... honestly they have to beat the Yankees now everytime they play them if they want a shot at the division.... and they have to play the Yankees .500 to keep the wild card safe
this should be one of the better series of the year, definitely one im looking forward to watching..

Tomoyo
Sep 17, 2004, 03:11 PM
If Red Sox can knock out the Yankee starter before the sixth inning, they are very well doing, considering the Yankees only have three decent relievers. And it wouldn't exactly be hard to do with the way the Yankee's starters are.

I know it's been asked before, somewhere, sometime, but what do you call a single member of the Red Sox? And how do you spell it?

SesnOfWthr
Sep 17, 2004, 04:19 PM
I don't know that it can be referred to in the singular like that.....

He plays for the Red Sox.....
He's the best starter the Sox have....

It's always referred to in the team sense, at least around here. ;)

Tomoyo
Sep 17, 2004, 04:58 PM
Well, here, people say things like "He's a former Yankee".

Do you say "He's a future Yankee"? ;) (For he's a former Red Sox player)

SesnOfWthr
Sep 17, 2004, 05:47 PM
No, around here we say "he used to play for the Sox"....

Although I would guess it would be Red Sock, but that just seems strange.

Future Yankee - ha ha. Down with the Evil Empire!!!

Tomoyo
Sep 17, 2004, 10:52 PM
Well, we won the first one. I was not breathing at all in the top of the 9th inning, and I was following the ball from Rivera's hand to the plate in slow motion it seemed. :lol: :crazyeye:

When I proceeded to jump for joy, I realized that the room was so messy that I had no room. :rolleyes:

SesnOfWthr
Sep 18, 2004, 12:37 AM
I was trying to watch with my idiot friend who was falling asleep.

Unlike other years, I actually expected us to win dramatically. Weird.....

BTW - Yanks are something like 59-2 when leading after 8. Then there is those other two games...:lol:

Tomoyo
Sep 18, 2004, 07:29 AM
I know that Mariano Rivera is like 14-22 against the Sox in save opportunities, but wow.

Of course we all know what the other game is.

toh6wy
Sep 18, 2004, 03:11 PM
Oh man! :wallbash: There goes the 2nd game of the series... 14-3 Yanks in the 9th! Sox didn't even get a hit until... the 7th inning, or something?! :mad:

Show 'em up tomorrow, Red Sox! :)

Tomoyo
Sep 18, 2004, 03:34 PM
The Yankees used up all their runs. It is even better because they wasted a great outing by Lieber. :)

I didn't get to watch the game until... the 7th inning! First thing I saw was the the score, then the announcer mention the no-hitter, then the home run. :rolleyes:

Wow I'm optimistic. :rolleyes:

dgfred
Sep 20, 2004, 09:08 AM
Oh man! :wallbash: There goes the 2nd game of the series... 14-3 Yanks in the 9th! Sox didn't even get a hit until... the 7th inning, or something?! :mad:

Show 'em up tomorrow, Red Sox! :)


Another :spank: on Sunday for the Red Sox :cringe: :cry: . The hex continues :confused: .

Sir Bugsy
Sep 20, 2004, 11:37 AM
That would be quite a show. :)

Unfortunately, baseball and it's players are wimps, by and large.
Actually the problem is a wet baseball. It is hard to grasp, hard to throw and hard to hit. If a pitcher can get a portion of the ball wet, we're talking legal spitball.

Tomoyo
Sep 20, 2004, 02:13 PM
So a pitcher that sweats a lot has an illegal advantage over the hitter? :confused:

zeon252
Sep 20, 2004, 02:54 PM
All I have to say is...QUIT BELIEVING!!!!

Sir Bugsy
Sep 20, 2004, 03:17 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
BLASPHEMY!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Sir Bugsy
Sep 20, 2004, 03:40 PM
So a pitcher that sweats a lot has an illegal advantage over the hitter? :confused:
A pitcher that sweats a lot has a legal advantage over the pitcher. When you throw a moist ball, it is like throwing a split-finger fastball. Your fingers don't grip the ball as well and the ball doesn't go as fast, while your arm action is the same. The hitter has difficulty picking up the difference. That's one of the reasons why the umpires change the ball so often, no scuffs, no moisture, no foreign substances.

The pitcher is supposed to keep the ball clean and dry... supposed to.

Tomoyo
Sep 20, 2004, 03:43 PM
All I have to say is...QUIT BELIEVING!!!!
:shakehead

SesnOfWthr
Sep 20, 2004, 04:43 PM
All I have to say is...QUIT BELIEVING!!!!

There is a special place reserved in the after life for the believers. a place where we watch the Yankees and their fans suffer for eternity, losing every game 27-2. :evil:

Tomoyo
Sep 20, 2004, 04:47 PM
That wouldn't be too much fun. We need some 27-2 games, but some have to be 19-0, with the occasional perfect game.

Sir Bugsy
Sep 20, 2004, 04:55 PM
Actually, every one of them would be a nail biter, with the Sox victorious with come from behind victories that crush the Yankee spirit.

zeon252
Sep 20, 2004, 06:47 PM
WHat is hell for one is heaven for another I suppose, but don't worry you'll win....in a few hundred years :P

P.S. I like hockey more than baseball

Tomoyo
Sep 20, 2004, 07:11 PM
I suppose if we win, we'll be happy for a few months, then we won't cheer as hard next year. So by losing, the Sox might sell more tickets! ...but people will lose faith...

SesnOfWthr
Sep 20, 2004, 09:59 PM
I suppose if we win, we'll be happy for a few months, then we won't cheer as hard next year. So by losing, the Sox might sell more tickets! ...but people will lose faith...

You know that had GOT to be the biggest myth going. If the Sox win this year, then I will be an insufferable bastard for the entire offseason, and then it will all start over next year. I realize that the losing makes us perhaps the most ravenous fans on earth, but that doesn't mean we won't like winning too.

As an example, I would point to the other team around here that has seen success as of late. The Patriots had their own little legacy of losing for a while there, and their fans were just as wacky (though not as many of them due to a shroter history). Once they started winning, their popularity has actually started to rival the Sox.

But Boston is still a baseball town. ;)

Sir Bugsy
Sep 21, 2004, 11:40 AM
The entire time I lived in New England, most people I knew hated the Pats. Most folks were Giants fans. That went back to the NFL-AFL days when the Boston Patriots were the red-headed step children and the Giants were the nearest NFL team. My Pop still hates the Pats even though they won the SB twice.

General Porkins
Sep 21, 2004, 11:46 AM
a) a true sox fan will never stop believing
b) a true sox fan wont lose his edge after the sox win the series
c) this is the year its gonna happen win it all

Tomoyo
Sep 21, 2004, 02:21 PM
I can't believe it, but we're on a three-game losing streak! :eek:

Nice to know that Boston will be even more crazy next year. :rolleyes:

dgfred
Sep 23, 2004, 09:44 AM
I can't believe it, but we're on a three-game losing streak! :eek:

Nice to know that Boston will be even more crazy next year. :rolleyes:

1 game pickup last night thanks to Cabrera! The trade bears more fruit ;) .

SesnOfWthr
Sep 23, 2004, 10:01 AM
Cabrera has certainly paid off in spades. Not his only game winning hit, and he is out there every day. Meanwhile, Nomar has missed 'significant' time with the Cubs. Funny, that's what he told the trainers would happen, though he later denied it. ;)

I *think* that they hold their destiny in their own hands now. If they were to win out, they would get the division. They have a 3 game set with the Empire, and a game in hand. They would own the season series, giving them the tiebreaker. Unlikely, I know, but at least we don't have to count on the Yankees stumbling.

Sir Bugsy
Sep 23, 2004, 10:11 AM
I think the wild card is well in hand now. I want them to win the division from the Spankees.

dgfred
Sep 23, 2004, 11:42 AM
I think the wild card is well in hand now. I want them to win the division from the Spankees.

Texas is also making a move in the West, while Colon got pounded for
the Angels -- He was throwing 81mph 'fastballs' right down the
middle :eek: . Oakland is slumping with Mulder struggling :( .

Tomoyo
Sep 23, 2004, 02:31 PM
Well, do you want to face the Twins or the umm... whoever wins the west?

SesnOfWthr
Sep 23, 2004, 03:00 PM
Personally, I'd rather face the A's since we have owned them lately.

No one really scares me of the postseason crowd, but any of them could probably win it all if they got on a roll.

Tomoyo
Sep 23, 2004, 03:11 PM
If "we" play the A's it will take 5 games, like the last two times. (At least I think it was the last two times)

EDIT: I just realized that I won't be able to watch any of the games this weekend, due to the Yankee having their private channel! :mad: It should be on a national channel or something though...

Sir Bugsy
Sep 23, 2004, 05:59 PM
If the Sox win the Wild Card they'll probably face the Twins and Santana. If they win the division, it's the winner of the west.

SesnOfWthr
Sep 23, 2004, 06:32 PM
EDIT: I just realized that I won't be able to watch any of the games this weekend, due to the Yankee having their private channel! It should be on a national channel or something though...

AFAIK, ESPN is carrying the Friday and Sunday games.

dgfred
Sep 24, 2004, 03:29 PM
Baltimore is just too tough for Boston to handle :rolleyes: :crazyeye: .

Tomoyo
Sep 24, 2004, 04:20 PM
Baltimore is just too tough for Boston to handle :rolleyes: :crazyeye: .
It's been that way all year. :(

I use Io cable which doesn't have ESPN as an option! :mad:

SesnOfWthr
Sep 24, 2004, 09:32 PM
:mad:

What is wrong with Francona? Didn't he see Game 7 last year? A quick recap: Pedro stays into the eigth, gives up important hits, the Yankees go on to win. Yeah, that's a recap of last year AND tonight!

Now the division is lost, for all intents and purposes. Guess it's time to start resting guys up for the playoffs. Right now, the wild card team goes to Minnesota, where Santana has been tearing up everyone.

Funny, now I'm suddenly rooting for the A's so we can face them instead....

BAH!

General Porkins
Sep 25, 2004, 12:22 AM
santana may be tearing everyone up, but remeber, its a five game series, and he will be up against schilling. ill take the red sox offense against santana over the twins offense against schilling any day of the week. no matter what the season records may be, ill be happier with one santana than one mulder, one zito and one hudson.

Tomoyo
Sep 25, 2004, 06:19 AM
We'll be facing two Santanas, one Radke, and two nothings. That is if it goes to game 5.

I guess I should rechange my avatar to a normal one in preparation for the postseason...

dgfred
Sep 27, 2004, 10:48 AM
A's are slipping badly :eek: , nothings going right for them :crazyeye: .

Yanks will :spank: 'em, IF they can hold on.

delsully
Sep 27, 2004, 11:53 PM
We'll be facing two Santanas, one Radke, and two nothings. That is if it goes to game 5.

I guess I should rechange my avatar to a normal one in preparation for the postseason...

Who the **** do you think the Sox can roll out there and win game three like it's a given, Lowe, Wakefield, Arroyo? They sucks as much as the Twins #3 (Silva or Loshe). Plus, the Twins are very tough at home and will have the homefield advantage. I wouldn't dismiss them so easily, the have been down this road before also.

General Porkins
Sep 28, 2004, 08:56 AM
Wakefield was stellar in the postseason last year and Lowe can be a darn good pitcher. Besides, with the Red Sox powerhouse offense they would stand a great chance of winning giving up five plus runs. It is true that the metrodome is one of the toughest places to play, but the sox only need to win one game there.

Sir Bugsy
Sep 28, 2004, 09:28 AM
Well we need to change the thread title to "Time for Sox fans to worry about the post-season?" :D

dgfred
Sep 28, 2004, 09:31 AM
Well we need to change the thread title to "Time for Sox fans to worry about the post-season?" :D

Or "Time for Sox fans to worry about the CURSE?" :mischief:

General Porkins
Sep 28, 2004, 11:47 AM
curses were made to be broken

Tomoyo
Sep 28, 2004, 02:38 PM
Who the **** do you think the Sox can roll out there and win game three like it's a given, Lowe, Wakefield, Arroyo? They sucks as much as the Twins #3 (Silva or Loshe). Plus, the Twins are very tough at home and will have the homefield advantage. I wouldn't dismiss them so easily, the have been down this road before also.
Wakefield has a lot of postseason experience, and Lowe was doesn't have to pitch if Wakefield does. ;) Also, I was not saying anything about the Red Sox pitching, I was just commenting on the fact that the Twins only have two very good pitchers. I would think that Arroyo would become a long reliever.

delsully
Sep 28, 2004, 03:03 PM
Fair enough. I would take the Sox # 3 over Silva too, but I wouldn't count game three as being a gimee. I'm just trying to warn you, Minnesota has a good team and will give the Sox all that they can handle.

Tomoyo
Sep 28, 2004, 03:08 PM
I predict the Twins taking a 2-0 lead, first with a pitching duel between Schilling and Santana, then with Pedro slipping. Then, Lowe will give a solid start and the Sox win game 3, 3-1, and win game 4 with a walk-off home run by Cabrera, then we win game 5 with a very good relief performance by Arroyo, and Both Schilling and Santana will allow three earned runs, only Schilling allows one unearned, but Bill Mueller will hit a two-run double and Keith Foulke loading the bases int he bottom of the ninth, but then strikes two guys out and gets the last guy to pop up to shallow right field....

dgfred
Sep 28, 2004, 03:38 PM
That is some heavy-duty predicting :eek: :D . Would you please predict
the World Series victory for my Phillies next year :crazyeye: .

On topic I think Boston can hang with any team ;) .

Tomoyo
Sep 28, 2004, 03:48 PM
Actually last year, I was very good with predictions (I had a soccer game during the fifth game, and I correctly predicted "3-1" as the score at the time) I also correctly predicted the outcome of all the games except game 7. :cry:

I can only do short-term predictions, so next year will have to wait.

capslock
Sep 28, 2004, 10:48 PM
That is some heavy-duty predicting :eek: :D . Would you please predict
the World Series victory for my Phillies next year :crazyeye: .

On topic I think Boston can hang with any team ;) .


Go Phillies! I will predict a championship victory for them next year, just as predicted one for them this year. :( oops

I hate the Red Sox and will be rooting against them with all of my rooting strength. Even if it means rooting for the Yankees, or Braves. Since the Phillies are out, my slogan is...

Anyone but Bos!

dgfred
Oct 01, 2004, 01:55 PM
Well the Yankees clinched the East last night. :mischief: The AL West and the NL wildcard have yet to be decided. Should be an exciting weekend for
those two races :scan: . Go A's and Astros! ;)

dgfred
Oct 14, 2004, 09:00 AM
Yankees up 2-0, are y'all worried yet :scan: . The next two games especially
should be real barnburners at Fenway. Rivera is NASTY! :eek: :hatsoff:
I was expecting A-Rod to bust the game open in the 8th but it didn't happen.

Tomoyo
Oct 14, 2004, 02:17 PM
Hopefully Brown will pitch like the guy that broke his hand punching the wall. :crazyeye: Arroyo's been pitching pretty well lately too.

dgfred
Oct 15, 2004, 10:03 AM
Oh NO! No Schilling :confused: :eek: . Will they make it without him?

I would not pitch him if he is even slightly injured- For goodness sake the
other guys are 'major league' pitchers and deserve a chance to give 100%.
Who would have thought Leiber would pitch so well :crazyeye: , Arroyo and
Lowe might be able to do the same thing ;) - give 'em a chance!

naervod
Oct 16, 2004, 09:58 PM
Things don't look good for Boston right now. 13-6 already and it is the top of the 6th. They will have to pull something serious off to win this game. Or the series.

Tomoyo
Oct 16, 2004, 10:16 PM
If any team can do it, it is the umm... Miracle Sox? Can't come up with a miraculous nickname.

General Brown
Oct 16, 2004, 10:30 PM
17-6
bye sox

Sanaz
Oct 16, 2004, 10:34 PM
So the Yankees outpitched the 1-2 pitchers (1 hit combined in innings 1-6 in games 1 and 2), and now are outslugging the best hitting team in baseball. This is just a brutal dismantling of the best Sox team in a long time. Nothing beats so many years of post season excellence, and the confidence that comes from it. The Yankees are making the Sox look like a bunch of silly kids. The "hair team" doesn't look nearly as "cool" when they are being humiliated like this. If it weren't the Sox, I'd feel bad for them.:) But it is, and I don't.

Tomoyo
Oct 16, 2004, 10:40 PM
17-6
bye sox
You mean 17-8 :p

See ya next year... :cry:

Better start making a dejected avatar...

Sanaz
Oct 16, 2004, 10:49 PM
I figured it was over when the odds-makers set the Sox as favorites. That just seemed like a very bad idea, especially for any "curse" believers. It seemed a little like Pedro's "Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass" quote last year - just a very bad thing if you're a Sox fan.

At least you have the Pats to make your winter pass!

Tomoyo
Oct 16, 2004, 10:54 PM
At least you have the Pats to make your winter pass!Look. At. My. Location.

Sanaz
Oct 16, 2004, 11:05 PM
pointless and deleted.

Sir Bugsy
Oct 17, 2004, 11:02 PM
I think it is now officially time for Sox fans to stop worrying.

It was fun while it lasted.

Tomoyo
Oct 17, 2004, 11:09 PM
We still have hope... ;)

Daniel Khan
Oct 17, 2004, 11:31 PM
Still have hope......

Tomoyo
Oct 17, 2004, 11:56 PM
No matter what the result is, I'll be really really tired due to these two games taking forever! :rolleyes:

The 11th inning was a close call though.

EDIT: Woohoo! We live to play another 14 or more hours! [dance] :rolleyes:

Daniel Khan
Oct 18, 2004, 08:33 AM
The Curse is just teasing you. I'd really start to hate the Babe about now.

Tomoyo
Oct 18, 2004, 03:56 PM
Hence the :rolleyes:, ;)

jonatas
Oct 18, 2004, 10:29 PM
wow!!! David "sweet daddy" Ortiz came thru for us again :goodjob:

Sir Bugsy
Oct 21, 2004, 10:25 AM
I think it is now officially time for Sox fans to stop worrying.

It was fun while it lasted.
Looking back, I wrote that during the eighth inning of game four. The Sox then proceeded to make the greatest come back in the history of baseball. Maybe we shouldn't worry and just relax.





Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

dgfred
Oct 21, 2004, 10:34 AM
Could it be the Clemmens curse now? :crazyeye: Goooooo Astros! ;)

augurey
Oct 21, 2004, 01:33 PM
After the Yankees preformed the greastest choke in sports history, the Red Sox will be swept :D

General Brown
Oct 23, 2004, 08:07 AM
Lol, I can't believe they came back, see if they can keep it up, but anyway, we did beat the Yankees, so it isn't all bad if we lose.

Sir Bugsy
Oct 25, 2004, 10:46 AM
I think it may be time to worry again. It seems the Cardinals have Boston right where they want them.

If the defense keeps playing like they have been and St. Louis' bats heat up. I think the Sox could be in trouble.

General Brown
Oct 25, 2004, 02:56 PM
Teams like being down 2-0? With Pedro vs. Trashcan? And the defense cant be much worse. Looking decent for the Sox now, but nothing over yet.

Sir Bugsy
Oct 28, 2004, 01:00 AM
And there was great rejoicing. For once I won't have to play "what if" this winter.

El Sop
Oct 28, 2004, 02:49 AM
Now they won't have to worry anymore for the next 86 years!

Congrats to all Red Sox fans :goodjob:!

General Brown
Oct 28, 2004, 02:06 PM
Wewt, we won!!!!!!! Now the off-season :(

panzer_kevlar
Oct 29, 2004, 06:32 PM
My god... how is it possible

WE WON :D :D :D :D
I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!

sorry this comment is so late

Sir Bugsy
Nov 01, 2004, 09:26 PM
And there was great rejoicing. For once I won't have to play "what if" this winter.
OK, I can't do it. I can't even go one week without playing "what if."

Can the Sox repeat?

What will they need to do during the off-season to do it?

General Brown
Nov 05, 2004, 02:10 PM
Enjoy it now Bugsy lol, the off-season is so far off :)

dgfred
Nov 05, 2004, 02:13 PM
OK, I can't do it. I can't even go one week without playing "what if."

Can the Sox repeat?

What will they need to do during the off-season to do it?


Signing Pedro would be a must, thus keeping him off the Yankees :crazyeye: .

Tomoyo
Nov 05, 2004, 02:24 PM
Ahhhhh! Curse of the Pedro!

General Brown
Nov 05, 2004, 04:01 PM
I say sign Pedro for 2 years, if you can't get Pavano and another decent 3rd starter at all costs
Provided Cabrera leaves, which seems likely -maybe get Vizquel or Renteria if possible, till that Ramirez they keep talking about is ready for big-league play.

For Lowe, maybe sign him to a one year deal, if not imperative to get that third starter I mentioned earlier.

If possible, get Beltran lol, you can fit him somewhere.

Azale
Nov 05, 2004, 08:21 PM
Hmm, i guess it wasnt time for Sox fans to worry afterall....:p

dgfred
Dec 14, 2004, 11:16 AM
Where is Pedro going??? What do you guys think?

dgfred
Dec 17, 2004, 02:31 PM
Pedro to Mets, Schilling maybe delayed :eek: , but Renteria is a more than a
solid shortstop ;) . I think they need a couple of starters :scan: . If the
Yanks get Johnson things should be very interesting again :mischief: .
Seattle has 'buffed' up with Sexson at first and Beltre' at third :hammer: .