View Full Version : Hungarian SG - The Nation of the Charatians


Vizurok
Jul 01, 2004, 10:43 AM
I decide to make a Hungarian SG a long time ago... Now I think that I'm ready to create and organise and play it! :D

About the game:
I haven't decided all of the options...
I would like to play with C3C is, but if the others want PTWm, it's OK.

MaP: Dunno, we'll choose a Europe map.

Difficulty: At least Emperor

Opponents: Hungary' neutreal frineds, enemies and neighbours:
-Hungary
-Austria
-Ottomans
-Germany
-Russia
-Poland
-France
-Byzantines
etc.

Miscellaneus: I will make a Hungarian mod (no mods yet, am I right?) depending form the choosen version.
I dont think about any variants, but we could use them

About the mod:
Leader: King Stephan I (that's a weak point, I cant make a leaderhead...)
City list: It will be OK :D
UU: Hungarian Rider replacing Horseman with either 4.1.2 (expensive) or 3.1.2 (cheap)
Color: Red :D

Rooster
-Vizurok (Great, 2 players! Join now!)
-Bretwalda
-Tofe99
-phorvath2110
This is the minimum number! (4) We have the minimum number (maybe :)), but the rooster is open! You want to join! I know that you want to join! Join now!
-open slot-
-open slot-
-open slot-
This is the maximum number! (7)

Joining
Game IS STILL opened! If you're interseted, join now!
Thank you.

Bretwalda
Jul 02, 2004, 06:56 AM
Never played SG, but I would like to try, would prefer C3C, 1.22, ha magyarul beszélünk kivágnak a cfc-ről? ;)

I decide to make a Hungarian SG a long time ago... Now I think that I'm ready to create and organise and play it! :D

About the game:
I haven't decided all of the options...
I would like to play with C3C is, but if the others want PTWm, it's OK.

MaP: Dunno, we'll choose a Europe map.

Difficulty: At least Emperor

Opponents: Hungary' neutreal frineds, enemies and neighbours:
-Hungary
-Austria
-Ottomans
-Germany
-Russia
-Poland
-France
-Byzantines
etc.

Miscellaneus: I will make a Hungarian mod (no mods yet, am I right?) depending form the choosen version.
I dont think about any variants, but we could use them

About the mod:
Leader: King Stephan I (that's a weak point, I cant make a leaderhead...)
City list: It will be OK :D
UU: Hungarian Rider replacing Horseman with either 4.1.2 (expensive) or 3.1.2 (cheap)
Color: Red :D

Rooster
-Vizurok (only me... dont let me play the game alone! :D)
-empty slot-
-empty slot-
-empty slot-
This is the minimum number! (4)
-if necessary-
-if necessary-
-if necessary-
This is the maximum number! (7)

Joining
I would like to play this game with other Hungarian civ players (sorry :()
It depends from the others, if I dont get enough in the next few days, I will open the game.

Thank you.

Vizurok
Jul 02, 2004, 10:05 AM
I hope not... Remélem nem... :D
Welcome aboard!
If you know other Hungarians, write pms or give me the names and I'll write!
I prefer C3C with 1.22, too, so it's OK!
It isn't a great challenge, its fun! :D

Bretwalda
Jul 02, 2004, 10:16 AM
Maybe we shouldnt limit this to an all-Hungarian game... I try to find others. I hope I can do the SG system-wise. I will test on some other SG savegames.

I hope not... Remélem nem... :D
Welcome aboard!
If you know other Hungarians, write pms or give me the names and I'll write!
I prefer C3C with 1.22, too, so it's OK!
It isn't a great challenge, its fun! :D

Vizurok
Jul 02, 2004, 12:26 PM
No problem, this will be my 3rd SG! :D It's simple and easy! I have another player, jzsf, he will join... I hope!
If we cant get 4 players today, I'll open the game and make the mod.

Bretwalda
Jul 03, 2004, 11:55 AM
No problem, this will be my 3rd SG! :D It's simple and easy! I have another player, jzsf, he will join... I hope!
If we cant get 4 players today, I'll open the game and make the mod.

OK. Lets do it.

Vizurok
Jul 04, 2004, 03:22 AM
The game is now opened! Join immediatly if you're interested!

Bretwalda
Jul 04, 2004, 04:03 AM
The game is now opened! Join immediatly if you're interested!

I 'd like to. I dont want to be the first to play if thats possible. Second, third is fine. How is the mod, savegame and roster?

Vizurok
Jul 04, 2004, 04:52 AM
I thought that we should think about themod later, if we have enough players...
The game could be an epic game, with only Hungary as a new civ (and the new UU) on a strandard map OR a scenario with 2 UUs/civ and a Europe map etc.

Bretwalda
Jul 04, 2004, 06:26 AM
I thought that we should think about themod later, if we have enough players...
The game could be an epic game, with only Hungary as a new civ (and the new UU) on a strandard map OR a scenario with 2 UUs/civ and a Europe map etc.

Both are good for me. You can decide. Any news about other players?

tofe99
Jul 05, 2004, 01:45 AM
Sziasztok!

Unfortunately I can't join... I would love to, but this summer is packed for me... I not even sure that I can do the Hungarian GOTMs...

But I will regularly check what's going on here.

Bretwalda
Jul 05, 2004, 02:53 AM
Sziasztok!

Unfortunately I can't join... I would love to, but this summer is packed for me... I not even sure that I can do the Hungarian GOTMs...


Hali!

A HGOTM merre van? ;)

Vizurok
Jul 05, 2004, 03:52 AM
Hello!

Tofe99, you're welcome! If you know other Hungarians, you could write them about the game, or just give me the names and I'll write!

@Bretwalda: Asszem, én meg tudom mutatni hol van... Félek magyarul beszélni... :D

tofe99
Jul 05, 2004, 04:09 AM
Info about HGOTM:
mayan.rpeter.com/civ3

There is a forum about it in Hungarian on Index. Search for it...

Any questions, pm me or write me email...

Bretwalda
Jul 05, 2004, 04:20 AM
Info about HGOTM:
mayan.rpeter.com/civ3

There is a forum about it in Hungarian on Index. Search for it...

Any questions, pm me or write me email...

Thanks everybody! Lets do it, I am going away on the end of July for 1 week... :) Maybe start an epic game, that should be fine...

tofe99
Jul 05, 2004, 04:24 AM
Vizurok!

I have posted a message on our index-forum about it.

Vizurok
Jul 05, 2004, 04:56 AM
Thank you, tofe! I love you!! :D

tofe99
Jul 05, 2004, 05:00 AM
Seems that it is quite easy to make you happy... :)

Vizurok
Jul 05, 2004, 05:25 AM
YES!!! :D Could you make me a link to that forum? The search doesn't show that!

Bretwalda
Jul 05, 2004, 05:45 AM
YES!!! :D Could you make me a link to that forum? The search doesn't show that!

Could be this one?



index civ3 forum (http://forum.index.hu/Article/showArticle?na_start=1731&na_step=100&t=9028883&na_order=)

Vizurok
Jul 05, 2004, 06:01 AM
I love you, too...
I will send pms today with google search in the forums...
May the force be with me!

tofe99
Jul 05, 2004, 06:06 AM
Bretwalda!

This is a good link, the only strange thing is that it navigates you somewhere a few months back in the past... That discussion is about the GOTM4 or GOTM5 while we are playing with GOTM10 right now...

So the link is OK, just go to the first page of it...

Bretwalda
Jul 07, 2004, 04:01 AM
So, whats up with the game? By the way what does "Charatians" mean? I couldnt find on sztaki :)

Vizurok
Jul 07, 2004, 05:46 AM
Mint ahogy Madách irta: Mondottam ember, küzdj és bizva bizzál! :D
Én is bizok...
I have organised it and I have sent pms but couldn't get new players...
We have to wait! :(

tofe99
Jul 07, 2004, 05:57 AM
OK, I'm in also, but first tell me the timeline...
How many time do I have to finish my 10 turns?

Vizurok
Jul 07, 2004, 12:03 PM
Tofe, you would like to join, wouldn't you? :D
Great!
24 hours to post 'got it' and 48 hours to play it.

@Bretwalda: Charpatians

phorvath2110
Jul 07, 2004, 01:43 PM
Wow this is cool :) I never knew we had so many Hungarian folks here.

Can I still join in if I'm on a Mac?

Vizurok
Jul 07, 2004, 02:09 PM
@phorvath: You're absulutely welcome!!! I dont know anyhing about Mac playing...
Upload a save, and I will take a look on it!

Other thing:
We have the minimal rooster woth 2 non-sure members... :D No problem! I'll make the mod tomorrow (hungarian Time) evening but we should vote about the game:

a option: Epic game, with random map and a single UU
OR
b option: scenario with a Europe map and two UUs for everyone

Vote!!! :D

-----------IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT---------

Keep your eyes open! We must find the others! :D

Bretwalda
Jul 07, 2004, 02:42 PM
Both are fine for me, but if I have to vote I choose 2 UU version on Eu map. How much time do we have to play our turns? Usually I can play on the evening on weekdays.

tofe99
Jul 08, 2004, 12:54 AM
Vizurok!
Pls provide me some info also about how to load a mod. I haven't ever played with a mod. Is it enough to load a save or there are other files to download? If yes, where to put them?

tofe99
Jul 08, 2004, 12:54 AM
I would vote for epic game but Eu is also fine for me.

Vizurok
Jul 08, 2004, 04:59 AM
Questions and problems! I'm lovin it! :D

@tofe99: When I finish the mod, I will upload it and I will attach a readme...
It will be a simple mod with no non-costum units, so it will be only a scenario.
Where to? To the Scenarios folder! :D
Other informations later!

@Bretwalda: fine, just play it in three days, onyl ten turns...

Oh, I missed a very important question:
What version?

a. Vanilla CIV 1.27f
b. PTW 1.15
c. C3C either 1.15 or 1.22

Please vote!

tofe99
Jul 08, 2004, 05:09 AM
My vote goes definitely for C3C 1.22, however I also could imagine a game in Vanilla 1.29.

Bretwalda
Jul 08, 2004, 05:16 AM
c3c, 1.22, thats way the simplest for me...! I vote for that.

Vizurok
Jul 08, 2004, 05:16 AM
Great! I'd prefer C3C 1.22, too...

OzzyKP
Jul 08, 2004, 09:51 PM
I have no idea what an SG is, but this Hungarian-American is interested. I only speak about 5 words of Hungarian, but i'm pure blood. :) I vote for C2C 1.22, and without knowing at all what kind of game we are playing, I vote for a Euro map. :)

My first (and actually one of only 2) Conquest game was TET's Test of Time mod/map. I'm the Hungarians and I've taken over nearly all of continental Europe. heh. Btw, if you are looking for a mod, he's got a unique Hungarian leaderhead. Its not St. Stephan, but its something.

OzzyKP
Jul 08, 2004, 09:54 PM
Ok, I figured out the acronym. Succession game.

So one of us plays a few turns, passes it along and another one plays it for a few turns?

Hmm, sounds dumb to me, hehe, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. I'll play regardless.

OzzyKP
Jul 08, 2004, 10:04 PM
I think a 3.1.2 rider is good. 4.1.2 would be too powerful I reckon.

What traits would Hungary be? TET's mod had Militaristic and Expansionistic, which I didn't think entirely fitting, but I may be too Americanized/ignorant of Hungarian history to suggest good alternatives.

Emporer is ok, but be warned I've not played over Monarch yet. And I've only played 2 Conquests games total, and maybe a dozen vanilla civ3 games. I may be a weak link in the team, but I've got heart. :) Though as I usually bring the hurt on Monarch, its probably time for me to move up a level.

OzzyKP
Jul 08, 2004, 10:09 PM
Oh one more thing (darn I'm spamming a lot, maybe I'm just trying to get my post count to something less pathetic :mischief:, but I'm a 'polyer, so I don't stop by here often) BUT I'll be glad to bring the pain to those Turks. My family had a castle south of lake balaton back in the day, and those Turks took it over. So..... yea.

Howdy.

Greebley
Jul 08, 2004, 10:36 PM
They do frown on multiple posts and you can get banned for it. Instead if you are just adding to the previous thought use the the edit button (especially if it was done for post count)

So you would have

Comment1

Edit: Comment2

Edit2: Comment3

Edit3: Comment4

(You don't need the Edit: in front but it helps someone identify what is new).

You can reply to your self if for example you posted " I will play tonight" - Then when you do play your turns you want a new post so that ppl know
you played.

------------------
If you want to have the Mac player in the game you are playing vanilla civ 1.27f. It is the only version avail on the mac

[Edit: Oh also I cannot play. I am in 7 of these things already :rolleyes: ]

OzzyKP
Jul 08, 2004, 10:54 PM
I get forum ettique, I'm not a newbie, I just live elsewhere in civ-netdom.

I was joking before. Multiple posts (provided of course they are seperate thoughts) are just my style. Frowns or no.

Vizurok
Jul 09, 2004, 12:15 AM
Welcome aboard, Ozzy!!!
Mod today... with C3C 1.22.

tofe99
Jul 09, 2004, 01:52 AM
Vizurok!

Pls note that I have internet access only weekdays during usual Hungarian working time.

Bretwalda
Jul 09, 2004, 02:56 AM
Waiting for the mod ;) Any turn order/roster?

@Ozzy: It's good to become intercontinental :) Which part of DC?

Vizurok
Jul 09, 2004, 05:28 AM
@tofe99: Ok, we will make the roster to fit you.

@Bretwalda: I haven't found a good Central Europe map, so I will use a normal Europe map with the named civs and UUs and I will remove Africa and make Spain, Brittania, Scandinavia and Northern Russia impassable. I dont know if that counts in Domination. If counts, i will totally remove those places. The mod will use [c3c] 1.22 version.


THE ROOSTER

1. Vizurok (I hope its ok, I like to start and I will play 15 turns.)
2. Bretwalda (everybody's playing 10)
3. phorvath2110 (if he appears)
4. Tofe99 (you will play on next week, tuesday-thursday [probably] :D)
5. OzzyKP

MOD today evening! I will make it and play the staring immediatly, then upload the mod, the starting place screenshot, my gamelog and finally the save.

Any problems and questions are welcome.

Bretwalda
Jul 09, 2004, 06:12 AM
@Bretwalda: I haven't found a good Central Europe map, so I will use a normal Europe map with the named civs and UUs and I will remove Africa and make Spain, Brittania, Scandinavia and Northern Russia impassable. I dont know if that counts in Domination. If counts, i will totally remove those places. The mod will use [c3c] 1.22 version.

Just leave them in, thus making domination harder. Any thought on the double UUs? What they will be? Civs?

Anyhow, lets rocknroll! :)




THE ROOSTER

1. Vizurok (I hope its ok, I like to start and I will play 15 turns.)
2. Bretwalda (everybody's playing 10)
3. phorvath2110 (if he appears)
4. Tofe99 (you will play on next week, tuesday-thursday [probably] :D)
5. OzzyKP

MOD today evening! I will make it and play the staring immediatly, then upload the mod, the starting place screenshot, my gamelog and finally the save.

Any problems and questions are welcome.

OzzyKP
Jul 09, 2004, 10:19 AM
@Ozzy: It's good to become intercontinental :) Which part of DC?

Outside of it in the 'burbs actually. Rockville, Maryland.

OzzyKP
Jul 09, 2004, 11:33 PM
btw, Vizurok, your sig says justice for hungary. How is Hungary dealt injustice currently?

klazlo
Jul 10, 2004, 12:18 AM
btw, Vizurok, your sig says justice for hungary. How is Hungary dealt injustice currently?

@Ozzy: Try this link:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=60962

Good luck with the game guys! Kick some butt around Europe! ;)

Bretwalda
Jul 10, 2004, 04:05 AM
btw, Vizurok, your sig says justice for hungary. How is Hungary dealt injustice currently?

And it is a political question in Hungary, as well (sadly). And trust me, you dont want to hear much about Hungarian politics... It is the best way to have two otherwise normal people to fight over ridiculous things :mad:

I havent gotten that far into Maryland. Never got further than White Flynt Mall ;) But Adams Morgan (and Madams Organ) was nice ;)

OzzyKP
Jul 10, 2004, 10:09 AM
@Ozzy: Try this link:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=60962


Ah yes, that what I figured it was about. But I guess I wasn't aware that it was still a current, pressing issue for folks. Though over on 'poly a year or two back I sparked off, and then watched a debate between a Romanian and Hungarian poster on these issues. It was...enlightening.

There seem to be a lot of Hungarians over here at Civ Fanatics.

OzzyKP
Jul 10, 2004, 10:17 AM
And it is a political question in Hungary, as well (sadly).
I havent gotten that far into Maryland. Never got further than White Flynt Mall ;) But Adams Morgan (and Madams Organ) was nice ;)

Yea, i'm not terribly far from White Flint mall, I am in the south eastern part of Rockville. Cool you know the area.

I've been over to Hungary twice. Once back in '87 (my only time in a Communist country) and again in 2000. I've got a bunch of relatives around Debrecen, a few in Budapest, we visited them and then went to the Hortobag (i can't spell hungarian things, so bear with me) and Lake Balaton. And we visited the ruins of our castle, which was amazingly cool :D

Bretwalda
Jul 12, 2004, 04:32 AM
Yea, i'm not terribly far from White Flint mall, I am in the south eastern part of Rockville. Cool you know the area.

I've been over to Hungary twice. Once back in '87 (my only time in a Communist country) and again in 2000. I've got a bunch of relatives around Debrecen, a few in Budapest, we visited them and then went to the Hortobag (i can't spell hungarian things, so bear with me) and Lake Balaton. And we visited the ruins of our castle, which was amazingly cool :D

I was there on a competition which was cool, paid for the trip :) Still, I wouldnt say I "know" the area :D Well, I am sure Hungary looked completely different in 1987 than in y2k... However, seeing Balaton and Hortobágy is like seeing NY and LA without anything else from the States: just tourist places... ;) Check out some more local flava' next time, hope you dont mind suggesting :)

Any news from our SG? I am going away on around the 24th of July... maybe my first few turns can be played until then?

OzzyKP
Jul 13, 2004, 11:15 PM
Hungary was fun though. When I went in 2000, I snuck into the Budapest Zoo, and then snuck backstage (and actually got on the stage itself) at the Budapest national theater, or opera house, or something. Then I did it again with my cousin in tow. :)

Too bad the Cold War is over, I could have made a cool spy.

So is this game gonna get on its way? What are we waiting for?

Bretwalda
Jul 21, 2004, 03:34 PM
Yo, is this thread dead or does this start rollin'? I am going away for holiday on the weekend so if you start I can hopefully drop in for the last slot... If you dont start I can catch up with you... :P

OzzyKP
Jul 25, 2004, 07:56 PM
I just got back from a week long vacation. Shame that the game is right where I left it. Someone needs to take charge here. I nominate the person who started this thread.

Bretwalda
Aug 02, 2004, 05:14 AM
I just got back from a week long vacation. Shame that the game is right where I left it. Someone needs to take charge here. I nominate the person who started this thread.

I am back from vacation, too and the thread seems dead... :( Whats up Vizurok, are you banned from net...?

Vizurok
Aug 02, 2004, 01:24 PM
Back!!!!!!!!!!

Bretwalda
Aug 03, 2004, 04:31 AM
Yo, we need the URL for the mod that should be used and the savegame as well. Maybe post the 4000BC turn and after your turns as well...