What play style(Variant) do we want for DG5?
Noble- Never declare war unless war is declared on us, and no manipulating the AI to attack us
Passive-Never attack an enemy city, if one of ours is lost, it is lost for good, except via culture flips, propoganda. Attacking units in the Open allowed

None-NONE, Zilch, Nada

Both-Never declare war, manipulate ai to attack us and can never attack a city.

This poll will be open for 5 days.

darn, my internet explored quicked out, b4 i posted the actual poll
could a moderate post a poll with the above options, 5 days limit, and we can see who votes what

done

Where is the option for both Passive and Noble?

im not sure it would be too possible to do that, but i will add it

Noble and Passive added

I think we should just play it the way weve played all the other demogames, just take the action as it comes

im in between passive and both...

I voted Noble because it seemed to be the noble thing to do. :)

It would put a variant on the game that I used to use on Civ3 for many of the first hundred games I played.

I didn't like how we conquered everyone for no reason last time. On the other hand, Passive sounds like we'd get slautered, and would end up with only a few cities by the end. So I say only noble.

the problem with noble is that it could end up being a very boring game for the warmongers out there.

I voted for none, we should keep playing like we have been playing. The SG variants should stay and remain in the SG. (SG = Sucsession Game)

the problem with noble is that it could end up being a very boring game for the warmongers out there.
i agree, because with passive we can still kill units in the open :p
i am holding my vote, so we can have some type of variant

Noble seems nice to me.
I think it's even more noble to make peace with a nation who declared on us as soon as we don't have to pay for a peace-treaty.
I suppose Noble includes no renegotiating peace-treaties.

the problem with noble is that it could end up being a very boring game for the warmongers out there.

The warmongers took considerable chunks of land in DGs 1 & 3, and dominated the world in DG2 and took the whole shebang last time out. So pardon me if I do not weep for the warmonger(sorry, Sarevok ;) )

To me, a boring game would be one where our warmongering seals up our victorious fate before we even build rails. Let's have a bit of suspense in this one, with some rivals growing unchecked.

Another problem with noble is that if someone does declare war on us there is a fairly good chance we will not be ready for it, now this would be okay as it would give us something to do however in all likelihood we would argue for a few weeks about what to do, the question which im basically asking is, if we do have war declared on us can we then go and precede to annihilate to said civilisation?

Hehheheh. I can see Sarevok standing on the border between our country and the next, with his hands motioning our nieghbors closer, saying "Come on, baby! Make it self-defense. Hit me, just once. Please!"

In answer to your question BG, as long as we don't declare or provoke the war (intentionally), we can do what we as a nation feel we must do to protect our future. I don't believe living in the noble world will force us to accept any and all peace offers.

I still dont like it, sure we could try it for the first term (when we conveniently wont have an army :mischief:) but after that we should try constant war for a term. you know just to even it out :).

Noble. We conquered the world last time. If we don't conquer anything this time, we'll be even.

we need a vote to break the tie

And we got it. Horray, Noble won! :p

Err this poll isnt closed for another day is it??

that means theres still opportunity for none to come back.

None. I think we should play a game no more passive than DG3. Perhaps we shouldn't fight wars as often as we did last DG, but we shouldn't pass up an opportunity to fight war if we'd get a significant benefit from it.

Ah so back to a tie brake, if anyone hasnt voted vote for none now, not for me to influence your vote or anything ;)

Hmm...well....

Let's just not count that last vote, then. ;)

I really think that after we conquered the entire world (imagine that in reality, and its absurd) in the last game, we should take a break. War focuses on the efforts of the leaders, rather than the people. I'm sure we'll get dragged into a few wars anyway, but this way we won't focus all our attention on it and do it whenever we can.

And we got it. Horray, Noble won! :p
it lost, but i wonder about 2 of the opposing votes...
if the ppl that voted will actually be in teh dg

it lost, but i wonder about 2 of the opposing votes...
if the ppl that voted will actually be in teh dg

err what are you trying to get at there?:confused: which 2 votes were they? Are you trying to imply that non DG'ers voted?

mhcarver, Real Pave both have 0 posts and havent been in any discussion at all... i kinda doubt they will join the dg.... but mayb they will
owell sorry about this
and sorry to you guys if you really are gonna join the dg

this one closes in 7 hours

Actually, he does raise a good point. ;)

Shouldn't people at least register in the Citizen Registry before posting and voting here? That would have counted for at least one post...

Anyway, it would be nice if mhcarver and Real Pave could post in this thread just so we can see that they still are here.

Shouldn't people at least register in the Citizen Registry before posting and voting here? That would have counted for at least one post...

Anyway, it would be nice if mhcarver and Real Pave could post in this thread just so we can see that they still are here.

Currently, the Citizens Registery is closed since DG4 has ended.

That hasn't stopped interested newbies. A misdirected post in one of the citizen groups would have done also. We just need a sign that they are actually interested.

That hasn't stopped interested newbies. A misdirected post in one of the citizen groups would have done also. We just need a sign that they are actually interested.

Well, here's one. I haven't posted anything, because I just don't have anything to comment.

Okay, then its a tie.

Dammit.

Considering we went for conquering the entire world last time, I really think doing the exact opposite wouldn't be too bad an idea.

Well, here's one. I haven't posted anything, because I just don't have anything to comment.
thank-you for clearing this up :)
i think we jus give it to the "NONE" option...

The way I look at these results, we have 9 people who want Noble and 2 that want Noble and Passive. Together, there are 11 people who want Noble versus 10 who want nothing. Noble should be the winner.

Considering we went for conquering the entire world last time, I really think doing the exact opposite wouldn't be too bad an idea.


just because we have voted not for that to be our primary goal through out the demogame, this doesnt mean that you cant argue your point against wars and the such like. as you can see from the polll you will have very strong backing therefore it will be very hard to convince people to go to war now anyway. we are just not cornered into not purposefully going to war.

Exactly. I don't want us conquering the whole world (yet again!). But I do not want to be limited by a preference like this saying we shall not start a war.

Fine, then. I'll just be a firm pacifist. I just hope that the MFA will be too.

The way I look at these results, we have 9 people who want Noble and 2 that want Noble and Passive. Together, there are 11 people who want Noble versus 10 who want nothing. Noble should be the winner.
true, this shows that ppl do want a play style variant.... this was the reason i hesitatated adding both, because it would split up votes that wanted a play style variant