battle report:

Russia:
Bombed the land around Zitomar.
Bombed the land around Kherson.

The Italian forces landed near Tunis and expect to cause all sorts of problems for the French. Italian marines killed one of the garrisoning troops.

General Rommel is massing troops near Alexandria and bombing the hell out of the place. One bomber group was lost over the city.

Turn 23-March 1942

BATTLE REPORTS
Italy: 1 Infantry in Norht Africa and got bombed.

Germany: Bombed France.

Bombed the 2 tanks.

Germany has launched a new offensive against Russia!

battle reports:
Russia:
Germany lost 1 panzer but destroyed 4 Russian infantry and captured Zitomir.
Bombed the roads around Gomel
Bombed the roads around Kherson and killed 1 infantry doing so.

England:
Bombed that brand new road in southern England you have spent the last 10 months buildings :lol:

Spain:
Germany lost 2 panzers but killed 1 infantry and 1 rifleman and captured Lisboa.

The King has taken the month off, so not much happened.

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BATTLE REPORT

Italy: 2 tanks in north Africa

Germany: bombed France

UK: Los 1 bomber in North Africa

France has bombed an Italian tank to scrap metal! One more tank to go with 1 healt left.

FYI....Doyboy has major computer troubles and things will be delayed for 5-6 days. Sorry!

FYI, Dogboy and I anticipated this. You could send the turn to me and I can play both Germany and Italy.

To all: I finally got my computer up and running. It had a problem that made the computer constantly reboot and there was nothing I could do. I had to wipe my hard drive and reinstall Windows XP. I am currently downloading all patches, drivers, and reinstalling all my programs. I should be able to play again real soon. Thanks for being patient.

I have the turn in my inbox. Should I play it or has Rcoutme already played it?

You should play it. I didn't send it to Rcoutme because I never saw his message. (My fault!)

Guys, I can't get this scenario to load. I d/l it and installed it but keep getting missing files. Can someone tell me how to get it working again?

Dogboy, check post #3 of this thread for the instructions..
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93608&page=1&pp=20

Woohoo! Thanks Thrust. I forgot I had to download that separate set of files with the units or whatnot in them. Anyway, I'm back in the game. Played and sent to the wonderful Italians.

But not before having a little fun with the Ruskies.

Germany:
Lost a bomber over Minsk.
Lost a bomber over Kiev.

Russia:
Lost a fighter over Kiev.
Bombed an infantry at Kiev.
Bombed some roads at Sevastopol.

Bombed roads in Tunisia. Nothing else to report.

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BATTLE REPORT
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Italy
1 tank North Africa

Germany
Bombed France
1 Sub English Channel

England
1 destroyer English Channel

Italy: killed your tank in Africa.

This was a quiet month for Germany. So quiet in fact that nothing happened!

Fair is fair, since the French kept on bombing us even though we left their territory, we blew apart their harbor in Bastia, Corsica.

Never in the field of human conflict, have so few screenies been posted...


If posted as attachments in a zip, then there can be no accidental viewing by the other combatants of enemy positions.

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BATTLE REPORT
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Italy: Bombed north Africa
1-2 fighters

Germany: Bombed France

Ps: screenshots. i will try to remember next turn

Another quiet month waiting for the Allies to launch an attack.

Russia:
Bombed all the roads around Rybinks

England:
Sank a destroyer sneaking towards Sweden

The band played on for many Italian fighter pilots. Their widows were given many honors and we salute their galiant efforts in our continuing quest to halt the evil English agression.

No other news to report.

BATTLE REPORT
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Germany : 1 sub west coast UK
Bombed France

Italy:
Bombed North Africa


PS: As you know , it is expressely prohibited by the house rules to give cities to other players...

Umm...no it isn't...and Germany did that way early in the game...with Athens and Sparta...although that was sort of pre-arranged

Giving cities: See point 10 in house rules recap post #2 of this thread.

That rule was created to avoid that the Russians give cities to the Allies from which the Allies could stage an offensive from the Eastern Front, helping the russian effort.

I only mentioned this rule again because someone was offering England a city.

I have no problerm with Sparta and Athens.

Oops...my bad. Shall we amend this rule to not giving cities that the other could not otherwise easily take for themselves? Thus, if garrison troops are already waiting, etc. for a freshly (within the last 3 turns) conquered city, or for any retaken city, then it can be transferred?

Another quiet month for the Germans as we plan our next major move.

Russia:
Bombed the road from Petrozadovsk to Kem.

Sweden:
Bombed a tank to dust near Leningrad.

Game sent to Thrust

BATTLE REPORT
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Italy:
Bombed Tobruk and destroyed some infrastructure there.

Germany:
1 sub in English Channel?
Bombed France.

France, as usual, has nothing to report...

Apparently Germany does not own the seas anymore. England has been sinking quite a large number of my submarines. This leads me to believe that they have discovered the technology to detect subs. I guess it's time to withdraw my blockade. It also appears as if I'm not the only one with subs out lurking around...

battle report
-sank an unknown sub just outside Oslo.


England:
Bombed Southampton and killed a citizen. Bombed that newly built road there :)

Italy, as usual, has nothing to report

Ok, who has the game? I sent Aug 1942 to Rcoutme. He posted here after that so I know he got it. Did the guy after Rcoutme ever get his turn?

The last thing I received was aug '42 and sent it to RubberJello at October the 6th. At october the 7th I received a GPS from him and that's all I've seen since.

I just resent the beginning of Sep '42 to Thrust. I don't remember getting a gps from him.

Ok just received the file today. Will try to do my turn later on today.

Battle Report Sept 42
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Germany:
Bombed France
Sub in English Channel

Italy:
Bombed Tubruk

The Furher has big plans which will be revealed next month. But for now, it was semi-quiet.

England:
Bombed Southampton

France:
Bombed Bastia and killed a citizen.
Bombed a lot of French roads in North Africa.

Bastia was stormed and conquered by Roman Legions who fed the residents to lions, tigers and other wild beasts in the games in the Coliseum of Rome...er...um...I mean the Italians captured...unh walked into the burning wreck....something like that. Anyways...Corsica is now an abandoned island hill.

In other notes a transport got engine trouble off of Tripoli and disappeared. Rescue operations are now underway to look for the crew of the vessel. The Italian Air Force bombed the hell out of the infrastructure around the cities in French North Africa. That's all folks.

Game sent to Thrust

Eeeerrrr there seems to be a problem with the last turn file which doesn't allow me to retrieve it, besides the fact that it might be dangerous for my PC...what can be done?

:confused:

trying to upload the image filke showing what report I got from hotmail but doesn't allow

Here it is:

BATTLE REPORT
Germany: Bombed France
Italy: Bombed Tobruk

Der Furher is happy to announce that Sweden is being gobbled up by the Germans. Three cities fell this month. How many more will fall next month?

Der Furher is happy to announce that Sweden is being gobbled up by the Germans. Three cities fell this month. How many more will fall next month?

I'm glad you are enjoying your game. Unfortunately I have to say that for quite a while now some of us,, including me and i suspect France, are continuing this game out of courtesy although we realize it really is just a solitaire German player... :(

If everybody thinks that the Axis have won and there is no way the Allies can catch up then we should quit. I appreciate the Allies playing the game out of courtesy, but I don't want to continue if nobody is having fun.

Let's hear from Russia, what do they say?
As for the English, i just don't see any way of catching up. We can't get near any coast because of superior German entrechment and air coverage, and i suspect germany has quite a large an dgood land army (as it has reported so few losses of any kind of units throughout the whole game...)

Umm...Italy has a say in this too... We have a pretty nice land army also :D Anyways... Most of the bugs should be gone from my revised edition... :blush:

...or we could try another edition of WWII Pacific... maybe with Japan needing 70,000 VP and getting Eric or Dogboy as the Japanese player...?

Well, we can continue to play, but Russia has no hope of going on the offensive without a credible threat to the Axis from the West from the British. I really don't see any other outcome except the Axis's slow climb toward a domination win.

I don't want to play this again without some serious changes to the Russians. As it stands, I spent the first year just building workers, and my entire Golden Age building Factories. As someone famous once said: "It's not your armies, its your transportation network, STUPID!". A successful defense of Russia entails about 150+ workers creating/repairing rails so that the armies can get to the point of threats. Considering you start off with about 6... :rolleyes:

The Russians should be allowed to build new towns. The Russians did it in the real war. Unlike other governments, they have no other way to offset the rising cost of their unit upkeep other than new settlements. I don't know why I ever agreed to that provision in this game. :suicide:

I would say that we should give the new version a go, but I have a serious reservation about one change that was put in. Somebody mentioned that "Retain cities culture" was "on". IMO, that is just stupid. It gives the attacker way too much advantage.

@RJ: It is necessary in order to prevent the autorazing of cities. Also, it has actually worked out quite well. In the newest version, I have the Germans and Russians with settlers. The current games we are playing do not allow them to build new cities. The Russians are allowed to set up resistance cities behind enemy lines (anywhere they like), the Germans are allowed to replace any city that happens to autoraze by 'accident'.

I will discard the game in my inbox and assume that we declared the Axis the victors in this game.

More on this game and the changes I made: The axis (in this game) had nothing to use money for except research. In addition, they started with many techs that the allies did not have. That was quite unbalancing. I altered that seriously in the new version. Although the Soviets do not start with lots of workers in the new version, they do have a reason to build them. They have a lot of trapped units on the eastern edge of the map that must get roads built to them. Thus, the Soviets are, more or less, compelled by necessity to build workers.

The Soviets and the French get resistance guerillas that are a lot of fun to play. Although weaker than normal infantry (or even paratroopers) they get stealth attack and 'all terrain as roads' and thus can do a number on damaged units and units with no defensive value.

The Soviets and French also get a number of Resistance Cities (which we state MUST be razed when taken by the axis). These cities are not easy to take since they are built on impassible terrain.

The sea war also comes into play a GREAT deal more--just ask Dogboy and Oblivion who are fighting it out in the North Atlantic right now.

I had to change one aspect recently as Oblivion discovered a method of taking the Resistance Cities early that I had thought was not possible. I altered the terrain to prevent that possibility.

So... any takers?

The map is changed slightly. The house rules include that you are not supposed to ASK the AI for MPP or alliance (you can accept if they ask, but you can not initiate). You don't get to burn cities. France and Britain are in a locked alliance against Germany and Italy. Soviets are supposed to wait at least 10 turns before declaring war on any major power. If we get a Spanish player, he can do anything he wants. There is no point in having either a Dutch or Swedish player, so they are not available.

It was a fun game. Thanks to all the players. And Thrust, you are right, any attack on my land would have been futile. I currently have 35 panzers if I recall correctly with 8 of those panzers in Sweden, the rest are able to move anywhere I want because of rails. Also, the 3 movement of the panzers is just so powerful. I was about to capture more Russian cities by bombing all the roads leading to the cities and use my 3-move panzers to capture the city, and RJ would not have been able to retailiate. I would have done this over and over. As for workers, I think I have about 50+ workers with about 15 of those in Italian lands improving his infrustructure. Teamwork is what it's all about for the Axis. I also give him money everyturn to rush things.

As for a new game, I will sit this one out. I am taking two classes this term and I don't have a lot of time. I'm trying to play less of these 30+minute turn scenario games. Thanks though.

Well, sorry if I have been a spoil sport for anyone, but the reality of things is that this scenario is quite unworkable for the Allies, and some of us saw this quite a few weeks ago and there really is no point...

Anyways, I thank you all for this try, it's had it's fun moments throughout. As for myself, well I am retiring from CIV for a while; this was my last game going, i had retired from 2 others already last week at Apolyton.

Perhaps we shall meet agin, here or somewhere else, for I continue to play, mainly strategy games...so i wish you all the best in life and play, and salute you until we meet once more...

Ah, and the screenshot for our faithful followers...

I was about to capture more Russian cities by bombing all the roads leading to the cities and use my 3-move panzers to capture the city, and RJ would not have been able to retailiate. I would have done this over and over.

*Cough* *Cough* Uhmmm....I don't think so, unless you have 25+ bombers. All my frontline cities have at least 4 parallel hexes of rails reaching back to my rear lines, and most have stationed a line of workers permanently to restablish roads on the same turn they would be bombed. I am about to get the Jet Fighter tech, which would tear your bomber gambit to shreds. I don't think you could make much headway against Russia, but Russia definitely can't go on the offensive either, so....

@rcoutme...I'm sorry. You haven't sold me at all with your latest argument. It seems to me Russia really got screwed with all the goodies you've given everyone else since the original scenario configuration. All you've done is make their life *more* difficult, not less, with your impassable terrain locking the Siberian units. Russia really needs at least one of the following:
a.) 10+ additional starting workers
b.) FP built somewhere
c.) SPHQ built somewhere, or else Espionage known.

If this is the farewell for this game, then I wish to thank everyone for their participation, and Dogboy for a well-deserved victory! Although Barbarossa never really happened (the Russian army is almost intact instead of being decimated in the first 3 months), it is fairly obvious the Axis will win.

@ RJ: I guess I didn't account into you stacking forces on your roads. My next target was about to be Kherson which is the southern tip of the German lands. Here is what I had on the last turn of the game:

102 workers (guess I had more that I thought)
3 riflemen
90 infantry
3 tank
19 artillery
11 submarines
13 bomber
1 destroyer
5 jet fighters
36 panzers
6 paratrooper
9 TOW infantry
1 flak
12 mobile sam
total: 311 units out of 480

I guess you are right about me not being able to attack. Assuming all my bombers hit your roads around Kherson and if you didn't have any forces on those roads, I still wouldn't have been able to pillage every tile. I guess it's good I never tried it or I would have lost a lot of Panzers like I did in northern Russia Riga. I would have had 4 more bombers in 3 turns with another 3 in about 5 turns after that, but that still wouldn't have been enough. I shouldn't have done of few of those bombing raids in Russia like I did and lose my bombers.

All in all, I thought it was fun.

@RJ... well they do have 9 workers. I just added a FP to them, in Stalingrad as I figure that that would be a likely Stalinish thing even though the Communist government thing doesn't really care... (and I did start them with Espionage, btw).

France hasn't spoken yet... WE HAVE THE POWER TO CONQUER EUROPE!!!

Ok, maybe not. France was dead meat from the beginning, couldn't stand against Germany with all their panzers. Maybe if England brought a huge amount of units in the first turn(s) we could hold out a little longer, but history did repeat itself.

As for coming back: there was no way for France to do anything after Europe was lost. I've bombed some Italian resources a few times, but that's it. For me it was over long ago, but kept on playing for you and maybe England got a bit of France back somehow.

I did enjoy it, but I'm also happy we won't continue, I expected an invasion in Africa, they could have taken me easily BTW.

It does need some major tweaks, after that I might join again :)