View Full Version : How do we want the Judiciary?
gert-janl Jul 15, 2004, 06:09 AM The discussion on how we want our judiciary is dead for a couple of days now, so I think it's appropriate to set up a poll on the results of the discussion.
First poll on the judiciary will be to decide whether we want to return to the DG3 judicial system. This includes one Chief Justice and instead of the 2 associate justices, you'll find one public defendant and one Judge Advocate during Citizen Complaint. Details can be found in the discussion thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93036&page=1&pp=20)
This poll will be open for 3 days.
Black_Hole Jul 15, 2004, 07:54 AM i think the way we did it in dg3, so we dont go through the think we did this dg(took forever to find ppl then when a justice stepped in, the whole thing blew up)
Cyc Jul 15, 2004, 09:37 AM This poll is based on a discussion thread that suggested the Judicial system be formed by the 3 Justice plan (CJ, AJ, AJ) and the CJ, PD, JA plan. True, the 3 Justice plan was implemented in DG4, but the PD/JA plan was DG1 and DG2 and DG3. To proclaim that this poll allows the DG3 system only to be reinstated is in error.
I realize that certain ex-Justices want the closed-door discussions by the Justices and one, single Majority Opinion posted by the CJ, but that simply isn't the way it should be. That's the Justices hiding and not fulfilling their obligations. But by wording the option in this poll the way you have (The way we did it in DG3), I feel you're implying that we will adopt that system wholly, when a lot of us disagree with that method.
Therfore, I feel that, although I approve of the PD/JA plan, it shouldn't be like we did it in DG3 (behind closed doors). I want everything out in the open and all the Justices to post their own opinion, so we can all read what they think.
CivGeneral Jul 15, 2004, 09:43 AM I voted for the classic DG1-DG3 Justices System :).
gert-janl Jul 15, 2004, 01:08 PM With this poll I actually only implied to vote on what sort of system we'd use for our judges. 3 Judges, or the PD/JA plan. All other things about the judiciary will have to be discussed later on. This is only about the judges. I don't know a lot about pre-DG4 constitutions, since I didn't participate.
Sarevok Jul 15, 2004, 06:23 PM The DG3 System. The DG4 system was inefficient and completely useless.
Chieftess Jul 15, 2004, 09:09 PM Other - more like the way in late DG1/2. Atleast as far as PIs were concerned. They were done quickly, within 7 days, not 7 terms.
Donovan Zoi Jul 15, 2004, 09:27 PM This poll is based on a discussion thread that suggested the Judicial system be formed by the 3 Justice plan (CJ, AJ, AJ) and the CJ, PD, JA plan. True, the 3 Justice plan was implemented in DG4, but the PD/JA plan was DG1 and DG2 and DG3. To proclaim that this poll allows the DG3 system only to be reinstated is in error.
I realize that certain ex-Justices want the closed-door discussions by the Justices and one, single Majority Opinion posted by the CJ, but that simply isn't the way it should be. That's the Justices hiding and not fulfilling their obligations. But by wording the option in this poll the way you have (The way we did it in DG3), I feel you're implying that we will adopt that system wholly, when a lot of us disagree with that method.
Therfore, I feel that, although I approve of the PD/JA plan, it shouldn't be like we did it in DG3 (behind closed doors). I want everything out in the open and all the Justices to post their own opinion, so we can all read what they think.
Cyc is right on the money here. Let each justice come to his/her own conclusion and post it accordingly without the risk of coersion behind closed doors. The citizenry should not be kept in the dark for a major part of the judicial process. Plus for the die-hard legalists, I think it's more fun and suspenseful to wait for that third opinion to drop in real time. :D
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