View Full Version : Term 1 - Nominations for Domestic Minister


Chieftess
Jul 22, 2004, 05:49 PM
These are the traditional duties and powers of all ministers:

Post polls and discussions to determine citizen desires for departmental policies, plans and agendas.
Cast a tie-breaking vote in the polls determining their departmental policies, plans and agendas.
Formulate departmental policies, plans and agendas based on citizen feedback.
Formulate departmental policies, plans and agendas of their own in the absence of citizen feedback (forum outage, low participation, etc).
Convey these policies, plans and agendas to the President for play in the game.


These are the duties assigned to the Minister of Internal Affairs:

Organize decisions about settler placement.
Organize decisions about wonder building.
Governor of cities that do not have a provincial governor.
Organize mapping of Provincial Borders
Manage the national budget

Please Accept or Decline any nominations you receive.

CivGeneral
Jul 22, 2004, 07:23 PM
I would like to nominate Daveshack and FortyJ to this possiton (That is IF 40J returns to DG5)

Cyc
Jul 22, 2004, 08:19 PM
I will nominate Noldodan and Ankka.

Noldodan
Jul 22, 2004, 08:23 PM
Thank you, Cyc. I gratefully accept.

PS: Am I correct in thinking you only nominated us because we said something in your thread?

Cyc
Jul 22, 2004, 08:29 PM
Thank you, Cyc. I gratefully accept.

PS: Am I correct in thinking you only nominated us because we said something in your thread?

That is correct, Noldodan. It would be pretty silly of me to get the names of people wanting to run and not use the information. ;)

Falcon02
Jul 22, 2004, 09:06 PM
I'll nominate Eyeri

Epimethius
Jul 22, 2004, 09:12 PM
Actually, this seems much more like the position I want. And at this point in the game, I think I can handle the large responsibilities. Besides, I'd call on the people for any hard decisions. ;)

I would like to annonce an interest in this position.

That's a self nomination, but it looks better. Now, someone please nominate me so I can second it. :p

Cyc
Jul 22, 2004, 09:34 PM
I will nominate Epimethius, and second eyrei. :thumbsup:

Epimethius
Jul 22, 2004, 09:40 PM
Wow, me?! Who'd have thought! Well, I accept. :p

truckingpete
Jul 22, 2004, 10:06 PM
I nominate myself and Accept. Man this is going to be a great election....:D

Cyc
Jul 23, 2004, 12:49 AM
I will second truckingpete.

Sarevok
Jul 23, 2004, 01:59 AM
I second Noldodan, Epimethius, and Truckingpete.

Provolution
Jul 23, 2004, 09:51 AM
I hereby state the unconditional support of Noldodans candidacy to the office for Ministry of Domestic Affairs. His excellent tenure as Provincial Governor for a staggering 10 terms, may be compared to the longevity of the Senate experience of Strom Thurmond and to the execution of office seen by the most premier of US Presidents. We cannot ask for a better Minister of Domestic Affairs than Nodoldan, as he knows exactly what pressing policy issues from the executive level may or may not impact the provincial level.

So for the sake of disseminating valuable experience of these ten terms to other offices, I would strongly emphasize these prevalent and mandatory skills as decisive prerogatives for a succesful delivery of concrete results.

I would also like to invite Noldodan to make a brief statement with Provolution for a tangible and clear platform of the joint and complementary candidacies for the domestic and foreign affairs ministries and how these would interact.

Yours
Provolution




Thank you, Cyc. I gratefully accept.

PS: Am I correct in thinking you only nominated us because we said something in your thread?

Ankka
Jul 23, 2004, 09:58 AM
I accept the nomination.

Noldodan
Jul 23, 2004, 01:48 PM
Unfortunately, I won’t be anywhere near a computer during the time that the election threads are up, so I have to campaign now, in this nomination thread. I have been Governor of 3 provinces in the past 3 Demogames, serving a total of 10 terms, a record unmatched by anyone in any office. This gives me great experience in the running of cities, and the Domestic Minister’s primary responsibility is to oversee this. The other responsibility of the Domestic Minister is to organize and guide discussions on city placement and overall strategy for the nation, and I plan to execute this duty after every turnchat, with an update on the current state of our nation and suggestions for the nest turnchat for discussion. And now, I leave on vacation for the week. Good day.

DaveShack
Jul 23, 2004, 03:19 PM
I will Decline this nomination. There are plenty of qualified candidates (how does one choose?) so I'll focus on the Presidency instead. :D

blackheart
Jul 23, 2004, 06:29 PM
I nominate myself.

I accept the nomination made by myself!

Cyc
Jul 23, 2004, 06:56 PM
Question for the Candidates:

How will you set up an effective Budget thread so that you can quickly dispense funds per requests from the different Leaders and Governors? What priorities will you give for hurrying a project?

Noldodan
Jul 23, 2004, 07:01 PM
How will you set up an effective Budget thread so that you can quickly dispense funds per requests from the different Leaders and Governors? What priorities will you give for hurrying a project?
Well, I check in at least twice a day, so a quick reaction to requests is no problem. My priorities, though... It depends. Whatever the nation needs most goes first, of course. A list of what those needs are would be posted in a thread of its own, and discussed after each turnchat.

blackheart
Jul 23, 2004, 07:30 PM
I would do a thread that each person states his/her argument/facts, with no room for argument, everything in a single listing. The arguments would then be weighed and if a decision cannot be reached or the decision is too large there would be a short debate over what to do, with a poll at the end. The priorities of projects are based on the priorities of the country and the people. My personal priorities are infrastructure first.

truckingpete
Jul 23, 2004, 08:38 PM
How will you set up an effective Budget thread so that you can quickly dispense funds per requests from the different Leaders and Governors?

*Well I'll make a thread, then Governors or whatever post what they want rushed ect. If it is very important, I'll grant it. If it isn't then I wont. If I dont what to do..make a poll for the citizens to decide...*

What priorities will you give for hurrying a project?
*Like the first question if its important or not. And will it help us grow ect....*

Epimethius
Jul 23, 2004, 10:34 PM
A budget advisory thread would be established where such requests could be made by governors and ministers, especially culture and science (slider settings). Based on the need for luxuries or the project being researched, not to mention the size of the treasury, slider setting would be set. I would probably run by the people any major changes in the slider settings (such as cutting luxury or science funding). Governors and other leaders (military, trade) could also post requests for hurrying projects in this thread, and I would assess which projects were most in need of hurrying and try to find the best way to both hurry as many projects as possible and keep a good amount of money in the treasury. Not that it matters until republic, though.

Priorities depend on the situation. If preparing for a war, military and support units would get the first priority on rushing. When trying to claim territory, culture in strategic locations would be the first priority. Workers after we get rail or need them in certain areas (hooking up luxuries) would be rushed. Upgrades would be delayed until they are either needed or can be afforded (no other rushes), not when they are first available. If there are more than one expensive rush needed at one time, one would be performed each term along with a number of smaller, less important ones with any surplus.

Babbler
Jul 24, 2004, 01:47 AM
Question: How would you deal with governors? Would you confernced with them on a regular base, just let them do their own thing generally speeking or fequenently overide them?

BTW, is there going to be a "Q&A" treath for this kind. I'll stop this if their is one.

Noldodan
Jul 24, 2004, 03:50 AM
Question: How would you deal with governors? Would you confernced with them on a regular base, just let them do their own thing generally speeking or fequenently overide them?
Dealing with Governors is pretty simple. You just need to make sure they know the direction the Provinces should should be heading, according to the polls and discussions. During my tenure as Governor, especially of Aventine, I actually needed reminding of this on quite a regular basis.

Sarevok
Jul 24, 2004, 06:07 AM
Debate Question:

What is your form of settler expansion?

Rik Meleet
Jul 24, 2004, 08:57 AM
Question:
In the early games there will always be the crucial phase of city-placement. There are many forms and shapes. Considering the map-settings with raging barabrians, an unknown land-type and unknown climatic conditions, how and when would you organise the city-placement discussions ?

Epimethius
Jul 24, 2004, 10:30 AM
Babbler's Question
The governors would have a thread in which to coordinate their efforts in accordance with the national goal and the will of the people. Whenever a certain thing was needed, such as 50 infantry for an invasion of Persia, the advisor needing it would post a quota in such a thread and the governors would divide it up and deliver that many troops. While discussing Article D I proposed that we have "National Plans" which would be poll-approved plans to divert production over to a special plan (wonders, troops, etc.). If these were approved the appropriate advisor could post in that thread the quota needed, and governors could coordinate their jobs around this goal. Were they uncooperative, I would remind them of their duties or do it for them.

Sarevok's Question
I like to explore first, and build a few immediate cities around the capital and near any good resources. Once we understand our surroundings and where our neighbors might expand, I build cities along were we want our territory to cut them off. Filling in happens after that. I tend to space out my cities a lot more than I've noticed most people do.

Rik's Question
I've observed the ways it was done in DG4, and I think it could be done better than the polling method we used. What I propose it to use a majority voting method. Basically, I'd put together a dot map with a large number choices, all numbered. Then I'd ask the citizens to post which should the next five cities to be founded, in order. From that a list of cities to be founded in the next chat period, in order, could be developed. Since they aren't asked to list all the cities, this also determines whether some sites should be founded at all.

Bootstoots
Jul 24, 2004, 10:36 AM
Three questions I'm going to put in every nomination thread (except FA, as I'm running there):

1. Are you running for multiple positions?

2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?

3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?

Epimethius
Jul 24, 2004, 11:21 AM
1. Yes

2. Domestic, Culture, Foreign Affairs, in that order.

3. This is my first and for all real purposes, only priority. ;)

blackheart
Jul 24, 2004, 11:28 AM
In response to Babbler,

I would convene with them often and remind them of their intended province's role and contributions to the country as a whole. I would not override unless they were out of line and their decisions in dispute with the people's.

In response to Sarevok,

I would build our first few cities on coasts if possible. When we encounter another civilization, I would begin to build cities along their borders so they cannot encroach into our territory. I believe in aggressive expansion to ensure the dominance and survival of our country.

In response to Rik Meleet,

I would convene with other ministers to decide the best possible choices for colonization based on current borders, resources, and terrain. The choices would be listed in a thread and be discussed then a majority vote would decide the next new city. I would do this for as many settlers as we have that turn.

In response to Bootstoots,

1)Yes
2) Military, Domestic, all judges - I would accept any position if elected
3) Because I would try my best in any particular position and a vote casted is a vote not wasted

BCLG100
Jul 24, 2004, 12:38 PM
Scenario,

there are 2 viable loacations to put a city,
1.on a riverside with grassland around a few ones with extra production, you know the usual.
2. theres a luxury, e.g. insence now we already have 2 luxuries but this would be our third separate one.

now what would you do plonk a city in one of the said posistions or bild a road there and use a worker to build a colony?

truckingpete
Jul 24, 2004, 02:19 PM
Question: How would you deal with governors? Would you confernced with them on a regular base, just let them do their own thing generally speeking or fequenently overide them?

*I would try to talk to them often and say what are you going to do about this, that, ect. I wouldn't oberide the governors unless the decision that they mad was not a god one....*I dont know if I answered this question right...

Debate Question:

What is your form of settler expansion?

*First explore the land that surrounds us. Then build cities at the resources/lux's we need. If we find a foe, I would like to build cities by there border (not to close) so they can not really expand in our direction. If we cities by there border and cross our border to settle a city, we would have the chances of a culture flip, If we build lots of culture.*


Question:
In the early games there will always be the crucial phase of city-placement. There are many forms and shapes. Considering the map-settings with raging barabrians, an unknown land-type and unknown climatic conditions, how and when would you organise the city-placement discussions ?

*Well I would do what we did in the DGIV. Get a map ready and see where the citizens would like the next few cities. If we dont seetle all those cities in the same TC, I would see if the citizens still want to build those cities there. If they do, we will build those cities.*

1. Are you running for multiple positions?
Yes.

2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?
1.Science
2.Culture
3.Domestic

3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?
D: Let see, I want to try something new. If I don't like this position I dont think I would run for it again. so yea, try something new.

truckingpete
Jul 24, 2004, 02:29 PM
Scenario,

there are 2 viable loacations to put a city,
1.on a riverside with grassland around a few ones with extra production, you know the usual.
2. theres a luxury, e.g. insence now we already have 2 luxuries but this would be our third separate one.

now what would you do plonk a city in one of the said posistions or bild a road there and use a worker to build a colony?


Make a city in one of the positions...Whice one you say? Well I would pick the one with the lux...make the citizens happy so they dont get mad as easily so the cities can grow ect...

Epimethius
Jul 24, 2004, 03:08 PM
I would call on the people to make that decision. If they went for the good city location, then I'd found a colony.

And the method of voting which I said would be used to determine which sites to build on is preferential, not majority.

blackheart
Jul 24, 2004, 06:17 PM
In response to BCLG100,

Well, I'd build cities on both positions eventually. As for which site to colonize first, it just depends on what the people want and what the country needs.

donsig
Jul 25, 2004, 06:33 PM
What is your position on pop rushing?

blackheart
Jul 25, 2004, 07:03 PM
In response to Donsig,

I usually don't do it. But in rare and critical circumstances, maybe. If it is a really major decision I would have to poll the citizens.

Epimethius
Jul 25, 2004, 10:00 PM
I was originally planning on posting a formal platform and such tonight, but I just finished two long newsposts and Internet Explorer is being a piece of deleted, so I'll have to wait untill tomorrow. I have work tomorrow though, so it will be rather late tomorrow when I get to post it.

3 days for the use of a vulgarity and evading the auto-censor. This is a forum-wide decision. Read the announcements.

truckingpete
Jul 25, 2004, 10:10 PM
What is your position on pop rushing?

I dont really do this too. In some cases I do, but very, very rarely.

jst666
Jul 26, 2004, 05:27 AM
!! I !! nominate MYSELF!

Immortal
Jul 26, 2004, 07:01 PM
lol ban in a nomination thread :lol:

Chieftess
Jul 26, 2004, 07:06 PM
It's happened before. ;)