View Full Version : Term 1 - Nominations for Culture Minister
Chieftess Jul 22, 2004, 05:52 PM These are the traditional duties and powers of all councilmembers:
Post polls and discussions to determine citizen desires for departmental policies, plans and agendas.
Cast a tie-breaking vote in the polls determining their departmental policies, plans and agendas.
Formulate departmental policies, plans and agendas based on citizen feedback.
Formulate departmental policies, plans and agendas of their own in the absence of citizen feedback (forum outage, low participation, etc).
Convey these policies, plans and agendas to the President for play in the game.
These are the duties assigned to the culture leader:
(Note - old DG1 and 2 rule if we wish to pass this measure - Can supercede a provincial build queue with cultural improvements under certain circumstances.)
Assess the cultural influences of national and foreign borders
Assist with the Military Department in determining how the territory will be controlled.
Assess the growth or decline of national and foreign culture.
Please Accept or Decline any nominations you receive.
Chieftess Jul 22, 2004, 05:53 PM I nominate myself for culture advisor and accept.
BCLG100 Jul 22, 2004, 06:05 PM I nominate immortal for this position and as i refuse to do the old _nd thing i nominate CT.
Epimethius Jul 22, 2004, 06:36 PM We can nominate ourselves? Well, I do so, and accept. I made this position for myself (though you seem just as, if not more, qualified.) :p
Also, when I wrote my version of Article D the Culture Minister ran the City Naming Office. I didn't put that in on accident. ;)
RegentMan Jul 22, 2004, 07:18 PM Well, I'll throw my hat into the ring too. I nominate myself, and I accept. It seems like more people are running this time than in all the other Demogames combined, huh? :)
Immortal Jul 22, 2004, 07:19 PM Accepted..
CivGeneral Jul 22, 2004, 08:24 PM I wish to nominate Curufinwe for this possition
Noldodan Jul 22, 2004, 08:25 PM I hereby nominate Fier Canadien for this office, and also Curufinwe, in the hopes that he will come back (I sent a PM yesterday, he hasn't replied yet).
Cyc Jul 22, 2004, 08:27 PM I will second Immortal, RegentMan, and Epimethius.
CivGeneral Jul 22, 2004, 08:37 PM I hereby nominate Fier Canadien for this office, and also Curufinwe, in the hopes that he will come back (I sent a PM yesterday, he hasn't replied yet).
I did breafly saw him one day.
Epimethius Jul 22, 2004, 09:08 PM Hmm, I think I'm going to have to run for some other things, at this rate. :eek:
Curufinwe Jul 22, 2004, 10:00 PM I am here, just with the constitutional rangling I felt it would be best to steer the path of neutrality. I accept my nomination, and good luck to everyone else.
truckingpete Jul 22, 2004, 10:01 PM I nominate myself and Accept.
Noldodan Jul 22, 2004, 10:03 PM Behold! The Return of Curufinwë, great master of all things Culture!
Sarevok Jul 23, 2004, 02:04 AM Indeed, I second Curufinwe!
mhcarver Jul 23, 2004, 01:27 PM I'll self nominate and accept :)
CivGeneral Jul 23, 2004, 03:22 PM Ill go ahead and post my question to the debate.
To all of the canidates, what will your plan be for the Culture department in term 1?
Will you support the building of wonders that would benifit the nation?
Immortal Jul 23, 2004, 03:27 PM To actually get some culture into our nation :p
Our focus should be on expansion first, that means culture may lag somewhat behind military and improvements such as grainarys. Great wonders that will benefit us most in the acient era are in my opinion the Great Library and the Pyramids, should we be able to win the race for these wonders I definitely would like us to build them.
Curufinwe Jul 23, 2004, 04:16 PM Of course, race for the important wonders. As well, once we've reached a size ( and probably, the right government) to develop culture, I will use my powers (within the Constitution, subject perpetually to the will of the people expressed in polls) to promote culture. These include over riding queues, requesting rushes (only of gold, never population) etc. to promote culture alongside all other facets of the game. I am comitted to a synergistic approach, involving consultation with the other Leaders and with Governors concerning my policy. For example, I'd make reqeusts of the Science Leader to go for techs that have wonders and that have a cultural improvement, etc.
I hope this is a good answer. Vote your conscience, which hopefully is for me, hah.
Fier Canadien Jul 23, 2004, 04:54 PM I hereby nominate Fier Canadien for this office, and also Curufinwe, in the hopes that he will come back (I sent a PM yesterday, he hasn't replied yet).
Thanks, I accept the nomination.
Ill go ahead and post my question to the debate.
To all of the canidates, what will your plan be for the Culture department in term 1?
Will you support the building of wonders that would benifit the nation?
I plan on two major things:
-I will try to get in touch with the governor(s) to promote and overview the building of cultural infrastructure, especially Temples, as we are religious.
-I will also try to get us build the great wonders of the Ancient times, with specific visions on the Pyramids and the Great Library. But, as the game hasn't started yet, it is difficult to say much.
Epimethius Jul 23, 2004, 05:58 PM I don't really think that much wonder building will take place in term 1, and even were it to, that's not the culture minister's job. ;)
I would attempt to make sure that a realistic feel of Japanese culture was maintained, and, in general, promote cultural buildings, especially in those cities near important territorial things.
Chieftess Jul 23, 2004, 06:03 PM Look at DG1T1 (Term 1) - there was lots of wonder building. Then again, it was a very fast-paced term, too.
Civanator Jul 23, 2004, 06:09 PM I third Curufinwe :D
Fier Canadien Jul 23, 2004, 06:53 PM I don't really think that much wonder building will take place in term 1, and even were it to, that's not the culture minister's job. ;)
Well, the first term should see the construction (worldwide) of at least (if the term goes for an average 10 turns a tc, two turn chats a week) three very important wonders: the Colossus, the Pyramids and the Great Library. Optionnal cascade could get the worthless Oracle and the unseless (if inland) Great Lighthouse.
The ancient times are very culture-rich. The Pyramids is, in my own opinion, the most important wonder of the game, as it gives you a granary in all your continental cities. The Great Library is the most culture-intensive building of the game. The Colossus, if built right, can easily give us 12 gold per turn untill Flight is discovered.
Ancient wonders are not to be underestimated. They can give us a headstart to victory.
truckingpete Jul 23, 2004, 08:33 PM To all of the canidates, what will your plan be for the Culture department in term 1?
*Well, to get a lot of culture so there wouldn't be any city flippin and make the people happy of course...*
Will you support the building of wonders that would benifit the nation?
[b]*Yes I will build wonders for the beifit of the nation. I would first ask to the citizen what wonders would you like to build. If there is a couple of choices, put a poll on it and the most votes we build that wonder. The the one that came in second we will build that too unless the citizens change there minds.*[/b
Epimethius Jul 23, 2004, 10:08 PM Still, it isn't the job of the Culture Minister. ;)
I'd say we would build wonders as soon as reasonably possible in the capital. Being the populist that I am, I think that the choice of what wonders be built (and when) be up to the citizens.
Chieftess Jul 24, 2004, 09:38 AM Ill go ahead and post my question to the debate.
To all of the canidates, what will your plan be for the Culture department in term 1?
Will you support the building of wonders that would benifit the nation?
1 - Since we are a religous civ, we get cheap temples. I wouldn't mind the early temple at the start in the capital (10 turns), although that would cost us a warrior or two for exploration. Temples will certainly be built to expand into productive tiles, and resources.
2 - Yes, definately! The Pyramids are one of the highest priority wonders. The Great Library will also help towards culture. The Collosus is another good wonder for stacking the science wonders in a coastal city.
Bootstoots Jul 24, 2004, 10:38 AM Three questions I'm going to put in every nomination thread (except FA, as I'm running there):
1. Are you running for multiple positions?
2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?
3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?
Chieftess Jul 24, 2004, 11:07 AM 1 - Yes.
2 - Culture and President.
3 - N/A, since it is my first choice.
Fier Canadien Jul 24, 2004, 11:27 AM 1. Are you running for multiple positions?
-No
2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?
-N/a
3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?
-N/a
BCLG100 Jul 24, 2004, 12:54 PM okay sorta branch of from CT's point as we are religous civ, we get cheap temples, if it should happen and we have literature which would you pick a temple or a Library?
truckingpete Jul 24, 2004, 02:13 PM okay sorta branch of from CT's point as we are religous civ, we get cheap temples, if it should happen and we have literature which would you pick a temple or a Library?
Temple, We get them cheaper than a library....So a temple...
1. Are you running for multiple positions?
Yes.
2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?
1.Sciecne
2.Culture
3.Domestic
3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?
Well I want to try something new.
Curufinwe Jul 24, 2004, 02:18 PM Boots:
Boots:
1. Are you running for multiple positions?
Yes, Chief Justice, Associate Judge Advocate, Public Defender, Culture Minister
2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?
Already answered. Chief Justice, Culture Minister, Judge Advocate, Public Defender.
3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?
To ensure I get on as something, hah. Vote for me to ensure your representation in the Judiciary and/or Culture. I'm committed to a synergistic approach to my positions, and to following the will of the people as expressed in a poll, regardless of what I think.
Curufinwe Jul 24, 2004, 03:40 PM BCLG:
I'd pick my choice pragmatically, depending on our needs. If the city needs happiness, a temple. If science, a library. Ultimately though, I want both. I decide which first according to our needs, and the will of the people per a poll.
As well, again to the principle of synergy, if the Science leader wanted more libraries, I'd try my best to satisfy his/her/it's desire. Hope this helps.
Fier Canadien Jul 24, 2004, 04:46 PM okay sorta branch of from CT's point as we are religous civ, we get cheap temples, if it should happen and we have literature which would you pick a temple or a Library?
It depends: if we get a lot of luxuries, and that our cities are reasonably happy, then building a temple would be stupid, exeption made of culture build-up. As said in my first post here, given the choice and some unhappiness, I would tend to build temples instead of libraries. However, if the governor(s) don't get the self-initiative to do so, I would be prone to building libraries, thus helping our science.
(Résumé:
Normal situation: 1)temples 2)libraries
Luxuries haven : 1)libraries 2)temples
Lagging in science: same as above)
Ulyaoth Jul 24, 2004, 06:21 PM I nominate myself, and accept.
1. Are you running for multiple positions?
no.
2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?
n/a
3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?
n/a
Cyc Jul 24, 2004, 06:31 PM I'll second Ulyaoth.
blackheart Jul 24, 2004, 06:42 PM Which would you rather prefer, capturing a city through military means or having it convert due to overwhelming culture?
Curufinwe Jul 24, 2004, 06:57 PM Blackheart: Cultural Flipping. It involves no loss to us, and we gain militaristically. However, the best choice is a pragmatic mix of each. I'd work towards pressuring cities to flip in weak spots to our advantage where war wasn't an option.
Immortal Jul 24, 2004, 07:03 PM culture flips are a rare treat, military conquest is still the simplest way to secure territory.
truckingpete Jul 24, 2004, 10:34 PM Which would you rather prefer, capturing a city through military means or having it convert due to overwhelming culture?
Culture..If we can flip 1 city, we can flip lots more cities with all the culture....
Fier Canadien Jul 25, 2004, 08:23 AM Which would you rather prefer, capturing a city through military means or having it convert due to overwhelming culture?
Well, I consider culture flips as a rare and surprising thing.
Sure, I'd like to see cities flipping occasionnaly into our nation, and will obviously do everything to prevent our cities of flipping.
However, culture flip is not a viable way of expanding our nation. Millitary feat is the one thing responsible for the conquest of new lands. But, a strong culture is one of the best thing to keep the newly conquered cities in our hands.
Curufinwe Jul 25, 2004, 12:22 PM Strangely, cultural flips are a common occurence in my games. Perhaps it's just a difference in style of playing.
mhcarver Jul 25, 2004, 01:36 PM I would like to drop out of the race because in the (unlikely) event I am elected I won't be able to help much since school starts in the middle of the term and I have a very tough schedule
Immortal Jul 25, 2004, 01:42 PM sorry to hear that mhcarver, hope you can still be an active citizen.
Fier Canadien Jul 25, 2004, 07:14 PM Strangely, cultural flips are a common occurence in my games. Perhaps it's just a difference in style of playing.
It happens also quite often (about five cities in one game as average*) in my games, but the real point is that culture at the border should be about keeping our cities first and then trying to convince foreign cities to convert.
*: usualy, I build a temple and a libraby as soon as posible in all of my cities, and then I proceed with urgent matters (war/aqueduct/hospital...), resuming higher culture build right after. I am not a natural warmonger in my games : about 50% of them are culture victories.
I would like to drop out of the race because in the (unlikely) event I am elected I won't be able to help much since school starts in the middle of the term and I have a very tough schedule.
Sad thing. It's always good to have new blood in the elections. I understand that you are placing school above gaming, which is good, but I realy hope that you stay active.
That brings up another question for my fellow candidates:What would you do if school/family/work takes more time than planned and you are forced to choose between the said things and your DG post?
I, given such circonstances, would resign at once and try to stay active within the demogame.
Immortal Jul 25, 2004, 07:36 PM That brings up another question for my fellow candidates:What would you do if school/family/work takes more time than planned and you are forced to choose between the said things and your DG post?
Time balancing is in my job description, barring illness or money problems I have nothing in the immediate months that could possibly make it difficult to do my work as a minister, allbeit at 3:00am the morning
Chieftess Jul 25, 2004, 08:11 PM Strangely, cultural flips are a common occurence in my games. Perhaps it's just a difference in style of playing.
Perhaps it's because you're the Culture King?
"Demogame V: The Return of the King". ;)
Immortal Jul 26, 2004, 04:18 PM I am withdrawing my cadidacy from this position as I intend to focus on being elected to the judiciary or to the position of science minister.
Therefore I have Declined this position.
Curufinwe Jul 26, 2004, 05:01 PM Lol CT. Yes, I suppose. Hah! Return of the King. Actually, in Tolkien, Curufinwë was supposed to be a king, except he kind of led a huge rebellion and ended up dieing because he was a little too zealous. Oh well, I suppose, :D
Curufinwe Jul 26, 2004, 05:03 PM (Sorry, ti's just easier in 2 posts) Fier, you say 5 in a game. Wow... that'd be horrible for me. I'm used to 10-20, if not more.
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