The governor is in charge of posting build queues for their province. The first governor of a province gets to name their province.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/DG5_BC4000_Province1_Pregraphic.jpg
Provincial Capital: None
Cities: None

I think a black box would be a nice idea ;)

I nominate Cheetah as out first governor.

There's your black box, Immortal. ;) I 2nd Cheetah.

And I'll nominate DaveShack.

I would like to nominate Cyc. We could use some RPG'ish action and this office would be a good platform for that.

I remain undecided, will see how other races shape up first.

Well, everyone saw this on coming: I nominate myself (and accept said nomination) for an 11th term in the office of Provincial Governor.

PS: I think 10 terms as a Governor is a record, actually. Can I get an award?

I'll 2nd Noldodan.

Thank you DaveShack. Although I would love to name the first Province in DG5 and and help orchestrate a Provinced-sized Gorina, I must decline this Nomination. I believe I'll stick to the Judiciary.

I second Noldodan.

I would like to nominate myself if it is allow.

I hereby nominate Provolution, the undersigned, for Governorship first term

and I accept


The governor is in charge of posting build queues for their province. The first governor of a province gets to name their province.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/DG5_BC4000_Province1_Pregraphic.jpg
Provincial Capital: None
Cities: None

Glad to see that Babbler & Provolution have tossed their hats in the ring, an infusion of new blood would be good! :)

I second everyone who has been nominated. :)

I will self-nominate myself for Governor.... and I shall reluctantly Accept

I will self-nominate myself for Governor.... and I shall reluctantly Accept
D'OH! Now I'll have to campaign twice as hard...

Unfortunately, I won’t be anywhere near a computer during the time that the election threads are up, so I have to campaign now, in this nomination thread. I have been Governor of 3 provinces in the past 3 Demogames, serving a total of 10 terms, a record unmatched by anyone in any office. So, I obviously have massive experience in the primary function of a Governor, preparing build queues for the province, and I have always submitted them well in advance of deadlines. But in the past I’ve been somewhat lacking when it comes to discussing the overall strategy of build queues. No more. As Governor of (Province #1), I shall make Citizen discussion the cornerstone of my administration. And now, I leave on vacation for the week. Good day.

I would like too number whatever Provolution

Given the unexpectedly high number of accepted nominations, I'll Decline and focus on the presidency.

Best of luck to all the candidates. From the looks of it we have a good chance to set a record for number of runoff elections in a single term. :eek:

I'll run for gov. I'll just pretend I'm an actor.

Hey look everyone, Harrison Ford.

I'll run for gov. I'll just pretend I'm an actor.

Hey look everyone, Harrison Ford.
First, Ronald Regan becomes the first actor to become preident

Second, Arnold Schwarzenegger becomes govenor of California.

Third, Harrison Ford (aka Zarn) becomes the first actor to name his own province ;)

Here's a question for the would-be governors:

We are currently at war with a very close neighbor. Your city is near the border with another civilization (at peace), the neighboring city is their capital (!). Your city is the primary production city of the nation and currently has orders to build strictly military units. The war has been going on for some time now, the citizens are unhappy and will riot soon if any happiness (temple) buildings aren't going to be built. What do you do, defy orders and prevent rioting or keep the pour of troops constant?

Units! In addition to their military value, they reduce the chance of culture flipping.

in responce to blackhart

Unhappy citizens lead to rioting or using entertainers, and thus lack of production takes a hit. It depends on the exact conditions of the City and the war, if it will go into rioting, and we have a large number of troops I'd squeeze in the Temple, after talking it over with the Defense Minister.
If we don't have enough troops at the time, and the Temple will take a while to build I'd just pop in the entertainers as needed.

It depends on the situation. If it gives the neighbor a good chance to flip the city (they have alot of culture) then a temple or similar improvement may be needed, but if the neighbor doesn't have much in the way of culture then I would just use entertainers in the city. I would remain open minded about any such situations and would listen to any advice given. If someone sees a better way of doing it, I'm all ears.

I would place some defense/attack units in an advance vantage point, and let spearmen absorb their attacks with a 200 % defense modifier of mountain, and let evntual archers take out the rest, surviving cavalry and other units that manage to take out our defense spearmen. I would in order return elite soldiers to the city in order to bring up the long term professional expertise of the army for the long run. This strategy would shorten the timespan of churning out cheap troops for the war, and give breathing space for either a settler, temple, worker and other urgent tasks halted by this war of attrition. So basically, I would change from symmetric to assymteric warfare, in order to liberate resources foir critical infrastructure.

Yours
Provolution

Debate question:

Germany has just declared war on us, they are a stronger country than us but we could defeat them by holding them off and building military units. You are currently building large amounts of key improvements, most of them over the shield count for Swordsmen. You are certain that the immediate conversion to war-economy would do damage and slow down our development, yet without the key units steadily built up for the war, we will surely lose. What would you do?

Sarevok

In principle, good question

But this scenario needs more details for me to answer. Which wonders are being produced, which key improvements are almost done, and how many troops do we need to take one city from them? The plan would be to complete as many improvements as possible, but 1,5 times the necessary amount military force in order to conquer 1 German city and get an early peace.

Question for the candidates.
How do you plan to decide upon buildqueues - will you hold discussions and polls on it or decide yourself, based on what the citizens and office-holders have expressed they need and want ?

For effective decisionmaking, I would consult the other government members, in particular the domestic minister as well as the public in a hearing. Then I would put up the five most promising options in a direct vote poll, in terms of a centennial or so building plan, a long term plan. I would also ask for a mandate from the people to act on crisis management in case of volcano eruption, wars, barbarian pillage, without making that a particular vote, as any government has such clauses for crisis management.

The fifth option in the poll would be to draft new options, so the electorate may veto the options presented, but only once. A second veto must require executive decision followed by a resignation from the office.

Three questions I'm going to put in every nomination thread (except FA, as I'm running there):

1. Are you running for multiple positions?

2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?

3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?

1.
Yes, two

2
Only two positions

Foreign Affairs Ministry
Governor of Province

in this order, as I by far consider myself competent on the foreign policy issues after a lengthy education ending in a MA in International Trade and National Security from a US military institution and succcessive work practice in the field.
I know how to draft professional memos and so on for the benefit off the many that will have documented the processes and policy creation properly.

Why should someone vote for me as governor? Well, I really want to play this out for the experience and for contributing something new. With my holistic view, where strategic resources is in the center, I could also deliver a solid effort as governor.
Yet, there are more qualified people out there for the governorship, and they are running many places as well, so in this case it would be a loss if I did not go for another office. Yet, certain skills are more preferred by people, that is democracy.


Again, I am not running for 5 posts as some people do. But put to the wall, FA is what I go for.

What do you consider more important: the stability of the government or the will of the people?

both, I would say

I'll run for gov. I'll just pretend I'm an actor.

Hey look everyone, Harrison Ford.

YAY the idea of Zarnia still lives on :mischief:

GO ZARN :) :D :lol:

okay then another obviously more important question than those so far, ;) what would you call the province? now i know the rest of you cant stand up against Zarnia but give it your best shot ;)

@Sarevok: I would switch the cities are building improvements not as vital (the ones not building wonders and much needed improvements) in a general situation, but numbers should be crunched before any action would be taken. I will also discuss production plans with other govs (if there were any).

@Rik: I'll poll where I have time and is a big undertaking (turnwise), and take advice for what I don't have time for or is somewhat trivial. On the other hand, I would put up polls once we have several cities to see what people want to do with each one such as military buildup, cultural buildup, or make some into settler, worker factories so I can get a general sense of what people want.

@Boots: This is the only one.

@Blackheart: That's a hard one. This is a Democracy game. It's 'mob rule' my friend. I must go with the will of the people, right, wrong, or somewhere in between, it is what this game is based upon. I don't play to win, it's just a bonus when we do. Taking away the Democracy part ruins the game, IMHO.

@BCLG: Zarnia, but Celeste is a close, close second. Maybe I should poll it.

What do you consider more important: the stability of the government or the will of the people?
Anyone who states the former is in for one nasty term!

@BCLG: Zarnia, but Celeste is a close, close second. Maybe I should poll it.

maybe i do however like provinces that end in 'ia' therefore i would have to choose that, besides Celeste sounds like a better city name.

Anyone who states the former is in for one nasty term!
Heh, so true. I think we should definitely have a Neo Tokyo. We are Japan after all.

Here are some questions to broaden the scope of the debate a bit. We seem to be focusing on whether build queues will support the military, which seems a bit short sighted to me. :)

Do you plan to use mayors actively as assistants who can help with preparation of instructions, or as merely figureheads who can promote RPG-type activity for their cities, or something else?

Do you think micro-management instructions should be explicit (work this set of tiles) or generic (maximize food production for growth / maximize shield production)? In other words, do you trust the DP to use flexibility in balancing production to meet the type of goal you're after?

How would you respond if a DP makes a mistake on a build queue, worker action, or micro management? Assuming of course that there is no evidence that the DP did this intentionally, do you take that as an insult that instructions are not followed perfectly, or is it just the way things go?

Debate question:

Germany has just declared war on us, they are a stronger country than us but we could defeat them by holding them off and building military units. You are currently building large amounts of key improvements, most of them over the shield count for Swordsmen. You are certain that the immediate conversion to war-economy would do damage and slow down our development, yet without the key units steadily built up for the war, we will surely lose. What would you do?


Building a WOnder or just a "key improvement"?

Key Improvement -> SWORDSMEN!!!!!!!!!! Which is worse? setting our infrastructure back a few turns, or losing right then and there?

Wonder -> How important? if it's an important wonder which losing us would SEVERLY hurt us I would investigate the possibility of devoting all other cities to military but leaving the wonder city on Wonder production, but once again Survival before infrastructure.

Question for the candidates.
How do you plan to decide upon buildqueues - will you hold discussions and polls on it or decide yourself, based on what the citizens and office-holders have expressed they need and want ?

I will have discussion threads for everything and look for the citizenry's view on everything. On the most important issues I will post polls (ie. Wonders, and changes that could effect the future dominance of our civilization, and divided issues). I will also, try to make sure I fulfill the demands of the leaders and the citizens as best as possible using the discussion threads, and on items where there is doubt as to the will of the people I will post polls, as mentioned earlier.

Three questions I'm going to put in every nomination thread (except FA, as I'm running there):

1. Are you running for multiple positions?

2. If you answered yes to the above question, what positions are you running for, and in what order would you accept them if you win multiple elections?

3. If this position is not your first choice as answered in question 2, why should we vote for you here, knowing that our vote may be wasted if you win another election?

Yes, Military and Governor.

and I'm not sure, but likely this position due to a change in pace from my long Military History.

What do you consider more important: the stability of the government or the will of the people?

The primary rule of the Demogame is the Will of the People is the Supreme law. So simply put the will of the people is the most important. If the stability of the Government will suffer as a result of a decision made by the people, I shall carry it out, but won't take responcibility for any negative effects.

Here are some questions to broaden the scope of the debate a bit. We seem to be focusing on whether build queues will support the military, which seems a bit short sighted to me. :)

Do you plan to use mayors actively as assistants who can help with preparation of instructions, or as merely figureheads who can promote RPG-type activity for their cities, or something else?

Both RPG and as assistants, however, I feel the "Capital City" the Governor is the "Mayor" of. So I will likely not use Mayors until we have at least 2 cities.



Do you think micro-management instructions should be explicit (work this set of tiles) or generic (maximize food production for growth / maximize shield production)? In other words, do you trust the DP to use flexibility in balancing production to meet the type of goal you're after?

Explicit... the DP has enough to take care of to have to spend time finding the tile allocation which maximizes production without sacrificing growth.



How would you respond if a DP makes a mistake on a build queue, worker action, or micro management? Assuming of course that there is no evidence that the DP did this intentionally, do you take that as an insult that instructions are not followed perfectly, or is it just the way things go?

Honest mistakes occur, I'd be a bit upset but not insulted or "angry" against the DP unless it became a consistant occurance, in which case it is likely more then just an honest mistake, but evidence of either negligence or subversion.

okay then another obviously more important question than those so far, ;) what would you call the province? now i know the rest of you cant stand up against Zarnia but give it your best shot ;)

Probobly

Peregrinia :cool:

though that's still to be finalized.

EDIT: I apologize for the bit of a "spam" fest but it seemed the most efficient way to respond.

In realization that a number of worthy candidates has nominated for the Governorship of Province 1, and my heart, specialty and talent lies in the Department of Foreign Affairs, I willl be fair to the campaigners, the honored electorate the people of Japan itself and to the national interest of Japan, that I will from now on only campaign for the Dept. of Foreign Affairs. I have initially supported the candidacy of Noldodan for his long and succesful experience running provinces for the Dept. of Domestic Affairs, and will now support his candidacy here as well. In order for me to openly support any candidate, I need to know their platform, their opinions, problem solving skills, strategic vision, ability to work effectively with the public, compatibility with the Japanese uniqueness and recognition of my candidacy for the Foreign Affairs.

Yet, leaving the arena of governorship to the other candidates, may create a more clear, understandable and open political campaign before elections, as I am not running for two offices anymore, but only one. That means I am not spreading my risks, and has loyally dedicated myselves to one office, something I hope the electorate likes.

With respect
Provolution

Here are some questions to broaden the scope of the debate a bit. We seem to be focusing on whether build queues will support the military, which seems a bit short sighted to me. :)

Do you plan to use mayors actively as assistants who can help with preparation of instructions, or as merely figureheads who can promote RPG-type activity for their cities, or something else?

Do you think micro-management instructions should be explicit (work this set of tiles) or generic (maximize food production for growth / maximize shield production)? In other words, do you trust the DP to use flexibility in balancing production to meet the type of goal you're after?

How would you respond if a DP makes a mistake on a build queue, worker action, or micro management? Assuming of course that there is no evidence that the DP did this intentionally, do you take that as an insult that instructions are not followed perfectly, or is it just the way things go?

1) They will be assistants. They can do whatever they want RPG wise, but I need mayors I know will do their job. It would be their job to propose builds for their cities and citizen assignment (laborer, entertainer, etc).

2) Micromanagement is one of the things that seperates a casual player from a higher level one. It is needed and should be done to max out what is needed. I trust the DP, but it isn't the DP's job to micromanage everthing. That's why there are Domestic jobs outside the 'federal' Domestic Department.

3) People make mistakes, and complaining about it won't solve anything. If it is continuous, then there may be a problem. Since this is a game, it should be taken only lightly.

I am realy grateful that I was nominated for this position, especially since I haven't been very active for the last two demogames.

But the 11th August I will start on my first year at the university, and thus I'm afraid I won't have enough time for any position this term. I wouldn't like to hold this office and do a bad job, so I will have to decline.

Though being the one naming the first province would be nice. :)

I ask whoever becomes the Governor to select a name that has a Japanese feel to it.

Acctualy, I'll ask it for all the candidates: What will you name the province if you get elected?

You mean Decline right :crazyeye:

Yeah. :crazyeye:

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