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Immortal
Jul 23, 2004, 08:49 PM
Proposed Constitutional Article I:

Article I. Census, and Amending the Constitution

1. The census shall be defined as the average number
of votes cast, dropping fractions, in each of the
contested elections in the most recent general
election.
2. Ratification of Amendments to the Constitution
shall require each of the following:
a. A poll which is open for at least 96 hours, which
states the text of the proposed new section(s),
the text of the section(s) being replaced, and
posing the question in the form of yes / no /
abstain.
b. A majority of yes votes.
c. A number of yes votes greater than or equal to
2/3 the census current at the start of voting on
the amendment, dropping any fraction therein.
d. The Amendment poll must first be posted as a
"proposed poll" in the discussion thread created
for the Amendment. The proposed poll must exist
in the discussion thread for 24 hours prior to the
Amendment poll being created. This gives adequate
time for review and changes.


This poll has no replacement article as there is no existing law being replaced.

This poll will be open from 96 hours from the time appearing in this post and is considered RATIFIED/DEFEATED after this time.

Donovan Zoi
Jul 26, 2004, 05:10 AM
A word of caution:

Right now census stands at 29, but you can rest assured we will get more votes in the General Elections. Luckily we are not basing these ratifications on the upcoming elections. What this will mean is that any future Amendments to the Constitution will be virtually impossible to pass, as the law as written now would almost require unanimous approval to do so.

Therefore, I would like to amend Article I before the General Election is completed. I would like to see a clearer majority of the people for passage(say 60-67%), with a total of the votes equalling 2/3rds the census. While retooling Article I, we can also change the leader removal time from two weeks to one, if the populace wishes.

Here is Article I as it will pass on the 27th:

b. A majority of yes votes.
c. A number of yes votes greater than or equal to
2/3 the census current at the start of voting on
the amendment, dropping any fraction therein.

Here is how I would like to see it altered:

b. A 60-67%(tbd) majority of yes votes.
c. A total number of votes greater than or equal to
2/3 the census current at the start of voting on
the amendment, dropping any fraction therein.

Let me know if this makes sense, and my apologies for not catching it earlier. If you think it has merit, then please open an Amendment thread in the Citizens Forum, and I will join the discussion later today. :)

Immortal
Jul 26, 2004, 01:09 PM
I've noted the changes, when the article is ratified we will revisit the issue for the sake of cohesion and so we dont completely confuse the brains out of the citizens.

Cyc
Jul 26, 2004, 02:48 PM
I've already posted about this in the Article G (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2039800&postcount=16) thread.

Immortal
Jul 27, 2004, 09:46 PM
Ratified....