The Order of the Imperial Shadow

This order will aggressively seek Japanese strategic supremacy in the world, in the best tradition of the Meiji Restoration 1867 and the Japanese quest for creating a greater co-prosperity sphere. Wisdom and prudent judgement on strategy will prevail over short term profit and budo principles. The overarching ambition and objective will remain the same, is to make Japan the premier strategic powerhouse in the world. The more power to the Japanese Empire, the more power to the nobility and the members of the Japanese State. The Order of the Imperial Shadow seeks to expand the elites powers in order to ascertain the historicfal mission of Japanese domination.

Everything is subject to the interest of the Japanese State, in the national interest, lives will be sacrificed, luxuries omitted and individuals put to the ultimate test. Cohesion of the Japanese Empire, its long term expansion through perseverance, patience and a strong sense of audacity will call for leaders, men and women alike, to take the necessary risks in order to make Japan, the land of the rising sun, get a place in the sun, and even become one, among the various political satellites we will encounter in our march.

Japan has no reservations on making other civilizations servants of our longer
term aspirations, and through our delicate politcal machineries and social engineering of our neighbours, reshape the world in the Japanese image.
In order to reach this vision of total Japanese domination, either military or diplomatic, we need to establish a core council aggressively and persistently
advocating this coherent thought to the Japanese leadership.

The Program of the Order of the Shadow has three primary objectives and
ten directives that is instrumental to reach these objectives. In the idea of secret societies like Illuminati, we purse a Master Plan lasting a full 6000 years.

Objectives

1. Japan shall be self sufficient on strategic military industrial resources and force strategic rivals into submission by the end of Japans Ancient time.

2. Japan shall through the Medieval and Renaissance period dominate the continent in which Japan is located.

3. Through the Industrial and Modern period, Japan shall achieve the creation of a greater co-properity sphere with national control over strategic resources and assure the spread of the Japanese destiny in the spirit of Nihonjinron, the Japanese people and finally the Japanese nobility.

10 Directives for Japanese Supremacy

1. Strategic resources is the core of Japans national interest and should be prioritized over city building and luxuries for the common good.

2. Japans Religious and Militaristic tradition calls for a pro evolutionary movement, hence "Provolution", in order to ensure by sudden strategic revolution of government type followed by forceful evolutions of new state forms and bold strategic policies that Japan is firmly for Pro Evolution.

3, Japans military doctrine will be only to fight wars in which we have a defined outcome that is tangibly meeting Japans strategic interests.
Japan will never fight wars unless there is a strategically defined outcome.

4. Any government structure of Japan should reflect Japanese uniqueness, in Japanese the discussion of Nihonjinron, and firmly relate to Japans advantages in the martial and religious field. Science development and military campaigns should be subject to a grander vision of optimizing the full potential of the Japanese rationale for sudden and forceful expansion.

5. Gubernatorial powers are subject to the historical mission of Japan, and would primarily be the military governor of Japan, everytging for the Nobunaga Shoguns through Douglas MacArthur are in this tradition. The prodcution in Japanese cities will be based on these Japanese comparative advantages in mind. Commerce, Japanese budo as well as culture are all subject to Nihonjinron, and there to serve the realization of Nihonjinron.

6. Japan, as an uniquely insular culture regardless of location, should aggressively seek to dominate the seaways in order to ascertain control of the coveted strategic resoources, luxuries are considered appropriate if discovered en route to these strategic resources.

7. The Order of the Imperial Shadow seeks the establishment of an Imperial High command, in order to extend the necessary Japanese martial influence on future satellites of the Imperial Japan through military mastery of the four elements. The Defense Minister should be responsible and command the Japanese High Command, or Imperial Command, comprising of Supreme General, Supreme Admiral and Supreme Samurai of the Imperial Guard.

8. The Japanese culture should pursue domination of the four elements critical to Japanese strategic dominance, namely wisdom and the strengthening of the Japanese naval and military traditions. This will impact culture, both in terms of culture (temples and education) as well as wonders (Lighthouse, Magellan, Sun Tzu and the Great Wall).

9. Japan should turn every new civilization into a future satellite by the means of the word, the plant and the sword in this natural order. First line of defense is diplomacy, then, we will press territorial issues and finally, when these does not work, we decide to attack at our time and choosing.
We always choose our wars, otherwise we make small concessions.

10. Japan will prevail through professional excellence and operational strength, political snakes threatening the application of Japanese uniqueness have no future or place in Nihonjinron and will be shunned.

Finally The rder of the Imperial shadow need Council of Schichi ni no Samurai, which with diverse talents should found, develop, and promulgate this grand and sensible vision into firm action. sociologists found that seven strong individuals is the best base for an optimal project organization.

Therefore, in addition to the undersigned, the Order calls for six commited noblemen and women of exceptional prowess and quality to fill the remaining ranks of our order. It is critical to state that the Order is not a political instrument , party or combine designated on degrading the ideals of the Demo-game, but that each member is allowed and privileged to vote by their own convictions. This, however, does not disallow agreement of the individual members.

Elder of the Order
Provolution

Other samurai seats.
The Order calls for

Gunma-kakarino mono
Charge d'affaires military question

FILLED Sarevok

Ume no fune no kakarino mono
Charge d'affaires naval expansion questions

FILLED Civanator

shakai kangaeru no kakari no mono
Charge d'affaires political change/revolution questions

FILLED CYC

Gaikoku no kotoro de kakari no mono
Charge d'affaires foreign questions

FILLED Blackheart

Keezai to Keiei no kotoro no kakarino mono
Charge d'affaires Economy and management questions

FILLED Nodoldan

Kagemusha to Kempeitai no kakarino mono
Charge d'affaires Conspiracy and Secret Police Questions

FILLED Coinich

These positions will be filled after review of the candidates, CIV players are generally bright people, sio I think we should fill these chairs with ideologically suitable people. For RPG-play , debate, policy document development only, not for the in-game elections

Yours
Provolution

NIHON SHORAI, BANZAI


End note, on the knowledge that political organizations for some reason is disallowed, confusing enough with all these borderline citizen groups, the Order is now meant as a written policy development instrument that actively seeks to draft a 6 millenium manifesto on the long term strategy for the Japanese civ and present that vision in the forums and NOT be a part of the elctorate process, where all are individuals representing themselves.

Rather consider this the RAND Corporation or any other leading national think tank delivering new agendas and visions to the nations leaders.

I am sorry that I did not know what was and was not politically correct in this game, but now I do and now I abide by that.

Very interesting, Provolution. I'm not much for joining citizen groups, but in this case, I'd be honored to apply for the shakai kangaeru no kakari no mono chair.

Can I get a phonetic pronounciation on/for that title?

I am in a disagreement with the 9th directive. Instead of having satellite nations I believe we should directly annex them, declare their citizens to be Japanese citizens, and treat them as an equal part of our country.

Very interesting, Provolution. I'm not much for joining citizen groups, but in this case, I'd be honored to apply for the shakai kangaeru no kakari no mono chair.

Can I get a phonetic pronounciation on/for that title?

sha-kai Kah-n gah eh roo- noh kah-kah-ree noh mo-noh

shakai, society
kangaeru, change
kakarino mono , executive, responsbile person

Besides, this policy development position plays directly on the religion advantage of the Japanese, enabling us to choose government type almost at will, so every revolutionary draft from this think tank will be your privilege. :)

I guess this is the only group with such a function :)

No huggy feely pastel color political correctness, this is meant for a grim world of barbarians ravaging and hostile civs facing a militaristic civ, us.

I am in a disagreement with the 9th directive. Instead of having satellite nations I believe we should directly annex them, declare their citizens to be Japanese citizens, and treat them as an equal part of our country.

Satellite nation is actually the minimum, but of course annexation is never out of the question if they cannot cooperate properly. Then they need some paternal/maternal guidance so we can raise them as our own children :)

oh the sweet sounds of militarism, I love it :)

As a member of the Merchant guild, I see by point #1 that we agree in the priority of strategic resources over all.

So how are we planning on going about with our domination? Covertly or all out brute force? I personally just prefer to have every other country in the world continuously fight each other while we build up our forces and "liberate" the war weary masses.

I think the fun objective would actually be a diplomatic victory, but that will never be achievable with cuddly huggy feely beatnik pacifist moves for Japan, as some suggests they want to run this civ. It is going to be a brutal intelligence and diplomacy war, sustained by economy, trade, culture and so on.

But with a large world and barbarians en masse, I think actually a diplomatic cvictory is to be sought for. In the process we will certainly Japanize several people, but we may need to make a couple satellites as well in different ways.

Remember, the barbarians have a major say in this game.

A militarist club? Im definetly in this!

I would like the Gunma-kakarino mono seat.

Diplomacy,espionage and intrigue, or sheer force, who cares? As long as it gets us to our goal. Maybe we should just start a multinational fast food chain ;) . But really, a diplomatic victory would require so much appeasement on our part, and we can't appease and assimilate other cultures at the same time.

I would like to join under the Ume no fune no kakarino mono seat.

Diplomacy,espionage and intrigue, or sheer force, who cares? As long as it gets us to our goal. Maybe we should just start a multinational fast food chain ;) . But really, a diplomatic victory would require so much appeasement on our part, and we can't appease and assimilate other cultures at the same time.

I mean, we must use the full spectrum in our arsenal, not only bloon and iron, but also the other, more sinister talents of Japan. A major problem with large maps is that we have a hardt time in meeting all vivs in due time to conquer them at once. However, imagine the pleasure for the national pride to conquer half and subdue half, at least the game get some variation.

Besides, Sarevok, as you not have noticed, there is a vacant position as
Chardges d'Affaires for military questions... :) You are welcomet to join.

I would like to join under the Ume no fune no kakarino mono seat.


Civanator

You are honoarably admitted to the Ume no fune no kakarino mono seat. and the Council look forward to dominate the oceans with your firm and steering hand. :)

I will add you at once.

A militarist club? Im definetly in this!

I would like the Gunma-kakarino mono seat.

Sarevok, granted, it is an honor, you are the last one.
All seats are filled.

Sounds good, thank you. :)

So how are we planning on going about with our domination? Covertly or all out brute force? I personally just prefer to have every other country in the world continuously fight each other while we build up our forces and "liberate" the war weary masses.


Blackheart,

honorable board member

the vision is to develop a doctrine of surprise war with special campaign forces playing on combined arms. The military should not be a mass army like the Chinese, but a highly professionalized military with the most updated technology that allows us to win defined strategic victories with a limited amount of forces.
Through choosing the time, place and battlespace of our own designated wars, as well as the social architecture of the international diplomacy, we may leverage the critical situations to the maximum of strategic potential.

This means that we will not flood the electorate with gazillion polls and bothering small messages, but involve them directly in the real strategic hard decisions, and let the people influence and craft the strategy through qualified feedback on the route to go. Covertly is not the opposite of brute force, however,, we are not silly thugs, we would have our surprise attacks like Port Arthur, Tsushima, Pearl Harbor on an unkowing enemy.

Imagine the suspense with the diplomacy game before a war we plan in detail, and the shock effect our well planned surprise attack incur on the enemy.

However, in order to shape such a battlespace, we need a very smooth and effective diplomatic instrument, not creating a new Domino War, as in DG 1.

your doctrine here wont be useful or even doable until were in the industrial age...

your doctrine here wont be useful or even doable until were in the industrial age...

Well, the plan is to build up a stem of elite troops by applying a containable barbarian presence. Small scale. we can expand gradually with the possession or
iron and horse, later gunpowder. Of course we need a strong military in all periods, but economics dictate that we cannot have it all. In order to compensate for that, we should rather build fewer and better troops, and by selecting our own wars, we are not forced to have a very expensive large army at all times, even though a military and diplomatic victory is the preferred target..

Elder Provolution,

I agree with your strategy. In wars I like to launch an attack on the enemy capital and quickly capture it to destroy their fighting spirit. Of course that would take a lot of elite units and careful planning, but think of the glory if it is achieved. Although a surprise attack would be a great blow to an enemy, it has too servere diplomatic repercussions. Would it not be a better idea if we posture ourselves into a position where we drag our target into a war with another nation and while their armies are away we sweep in and capture their cities?

As for the small elite force, I do not think this may be the best idea. Even though we would have an elite army, it would be too small to fight a prolonged war or handle offense/defense from several fronts. I suggest we have several elite units but also more regular/veteran reserve units.

I believe we should just plunge to world into chaos with everyone else at each other's necks while we go in and quietly absorb the warring countries.

I agree in principle ;)

Gaikoku no kotoro de kakari no mono
Blackheart

Elder Provolution,

I have voted for your for FA Minister. Good luck in the elections. We will need to see the lay of the land first after the elections. :mischief:

Has anyone noticed that, just as in real life, the amount of information available on this website is almost more than can be kept up with. Kind of like life right now isn't it. :rolleyes:

Arigato :hatsoff:

Coinich, very true sir :)

It is a very close race, but at least I think the arguments were one piecemeal. Even though the first term is uncertain, we would still get a shot at the 2nd term.
The key aspect is that I agreed with some of the more cerebral and professional types in here. Like the military advisors was all good candidats.

I wish to join this citizens group

I also wish to join this group



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after careful thinking, i request that my petition to be part of this group be cancelled.

I DO NOT want to be a member of this group.

Elder Provolution,

What are the ranks of members that have just joined? There are no more samurai seats so would these new members be assistants or what?

Blackheart,

The Order, initially planned to be a non-citizen group and a non-party, but a doctrine originator, is to reform itself to meet this new support. Existing members will be asked to renew their seats, and if we can supplement two in if two refrain, we will have no reform.
Otherwise, we will expand the activity.

Yours sincerely

Elder Provolution,

What are the ranks of members that have just joined? There are no more samurai seats so would these new members be assistants or what?

Have you ever heard of peasants? :mischief:

Just kidding, Provolution... :D

Blackheart,

Existing members will be asked to renew their seats, and if we can supplement two in if two refrain, we will have no reform.



Elder Provolution,

Please enlighten me with your plans for this course of action. I wish to maintain my seat with the Council of Schichi ni no Samurai, and help move this vision closer to action. Please let me know if there is anything this humble soul can do to help.

Honorable Cyc-sa,a

shakai kangaeru no kakari no mono
Charge d'affaires political change/revolution questions

Your clans historical destiny is to plan ahead the various revolutions of the glorious Japan, and develop complete plans for revolutionary change in government shifts.
Our religious power should be applied to the meximum for this purpose.
Some of our brethren has stubbornly advocated that is the construction of temples and the concept of reducing war weariness in the people, they forget that it is also a question of industrial strength, the mobilization of our armies, trade, and the societal strength in general. So your part in this historical mission, is to review the Japanese technologies and types of government , and relate that initiially to the militaristic uniqueness of Japan, reviewing that militarism to technologies, strategic resources and production capabilities. As time progress and we learn of our explorations, we can add
foreign politics, geogrpahy and resource economics to the grand plan.

This would also benefit the people, and educate them in making the right decisions based on providing them real knowledge, not blind political rhetoric.

so that is what societal change and revolutions is all about, honored Cyc-Sama

for the Empire
Provolution

Well, it seems Superpelon withdrew and formed a pacifist/isolationist group, now we need to figure out a reform to include Civgeneral, if there is consensus about it :)

How about a post for internal concerns and another one for the late arriving air force? Also, maybe one to deal with barbarian threats.

Blackheart

I agree on airforce as soon as we get oil, which means we need Imperial Oil to give us a rep, or someone else. Barbarians? that is a military question. Yet, the vision is to remain at 7 people constant, yet, I may retire some and gain a more coordinating/supervisory role, as we are neither citizen org, pol party or roleplay group, but the GD's leading doctrine orginator for the long haul.

Elder Provolution,

Barbarians are a military matter, but I think creating a seperate post to strictly handle them and leaving the other post to handle other nations might be needed, but I am not quite certain.

How about we have rotating office roles? Or maybe just make the Samurai roles into small councils?

WE could make a post for Exploration, Barbarian Hunting, Setting up Colonies (outside border infrastructure, including fortresses, airbases and so on), and call it frontier affairs.
But I would like a group poll on that.

How about a position as the head of our political lobbyist machine?

Given the development of this game, I think that we will nominate the
Naval position as available.

Is it alright for the heads of each division to have deputies? If so I would like to be the deputy of Charge d'affaires, Conspiracy and Secret Police Questions. I would like to turn two nations against each other and see them nearly destory each other abd then we declare war against these war ravaged nations and take their spoils. I really hate those pacifist groups. War is for the mighty and it will be groups like this that will make Japanatica a place of great beauty.

Honorable Classical Hero, please private message Coinich, and we will immediately sign you in under the Charge d'Affaires, Conspiracy and Secret Police Questions, as the Director of Overseas Intelligence Services (Gaikoku no Kempeitaii Schachoo). Your first assignment will be to draft a plan in order to develop enmity between the Zulus and the Babylonians over their moutains, and a plan to make te Zulsus and Romans to be embroiled in a longer conflict over the Grapes of Wrath Steppes. Please draft a master plan, it will be reviewed by the board, and then polled as informational input for the longer term, when we have the means to implement this plan.

Please also write the conditions that must be in place to realize this plan.

Most Honorable Elder Provolusionsan, :salute:

I am most honored to welcome Classical_Herosan as the Deputy of my department. I note with pleasure he already has his first assignment. I look forward to working with him in the furtherance of our goals.

Arigato, :hatsoff:

Coinich

Honorable Order members,

We should take a step back and gaze over the mountains before we scheme for anything. Here is my tactic: assess each of the civ's strengths and then determine who we should strike. General chaos is good and whatnot but we should use it as a cover to expand our territory, instead possibly letting someone else use it to expand theirs.

hello...i got a gist that u could make new political parties and that at each month is a different term in which new leaders are voted in and all that i was just wondering if some1 could explain to me the process the rules arent that clear for me.

regards ali

we are not allowed by law. we only develop policy prposals like think tank

Honorable Classical Hero, please private message Coinich, and we will immediately sign you in under the Charge d'Affaires, Conspiracy and Secret Police Questions, as the Director of Overseas Intelligence Services (Gaikoku no Kempeitaii Schachoo). Your first assignment will be to draft a plan in order to develop enmity between the Zulus and the Babylonians over their moutains, and a plan to make te Zulsus and Romans to be embroiled in a longer conflict over the Grapes of Wrath Steppes. Please draft a master plan, it will be reviewed by the board, and then polled as informational input for the longer term, when we have the means to implement this plan.

Please also write the conditions that must be in place to realize this plan.
Here is my plan, Honourable Elder Povolutionsan.

First of all we need to find out which of our foes is the strongest (of the two). I would propose that we try and get into their good books so that we can use them in an alliance against the weaker opponent. This would mean that we have to bribe our strongest to be our friend. Also we need to antagonise the weaker enemy. This is to get the moods of each leader to e either for or against us.

Second. We need a large and well equiped army that would protect us from any eventuality that could arise. This would be necessary to protect us if we get attacked first (NOTE: this would make any alliance that would need to be formed an easier task). This would also mean that we can be able to start a war with the weaker opponent. A definition of large and well equiped army will change with the resources that we have, the type of government, the ammount of money in the bank (this could be used for upgrades and for the no. of troops we have (dependant upon the Gov type)), any the resources the enemy has, the latest and greatest technology that will help our goals, and any other tangibles that I have not thought of yet.

Contingencies. Worst case scenarios.
1. What if we are attacked by the enemy we are trying to bribe?
If that happens then we do our best to bribe the one we were once trying to antagonise. To get the attacker to settle for peace we would then need to take some of their cities to make them settle for peace and sit back and watch them weaken each other and make them ready to be over taken by us.
2. What if the war we start goes better than planned, but with out the need for an alliance? Then we should just obliterate them and try to start another war another civ that we aren't trying to be friendly with.
3. What if the war with the weaker doesn't go as planned? That's where the alliance should help. But if all else fails, then we should see what the peace conditions are. If they don't want to talk or their demands are too high, then we should go into war mobilization mode (if possible) and get units quicker and if all else fails, we can conscript (if possible). I am not a huge fan of Conscripts but if that's the only option, then they'll have to do. This is the worst case scenario that really shouldn't happen if we plan well for war.
There is some risk in this plan but risk is what separates the winners from the losers. Any more Questions will be added to this list of concerns.

Yours faithfully, Classical_Herosan.

Honorable Classical Hero San

First we need Iron Working, first then I can propose either a foreign policy negotiating from strength, from appeasement, form an alliance system, from bilateral trades and relations or simply outright war, or in coordination with culture, culture wars.

The access to iron will define how, whom, why, when, where which and whose.

Provolution.

Forgive my late arrival to both the game and this group.

Today I balked in horror at the proposed "goal" of our nation. They speak of superior arts and of lasting peaceful alliences, of nations united.

I have seen example of Roman art and while it is pleasing to the eye where is the nation of Rome now? They have gained unending peace, yes?

To gain a lasting peace we must suppress and dominate our enemies into permanent submission. Those that will not allign themselves with our nation, under OUR nation's flag, should be destroyed.

I believe that with the help of this group our great nation can be not a global power the THE SOLE global power. To this end I ask to join this group, not as one of its general but as one of its loyal foot soldiers.

Sorry to say this Ghenghis Khev, but the Order is pretty much dead due to Provolution's leave of (extended) absence. The Order's goal isn't genocide, it's the security and prosperity of Japanatica.

Ghenghiz Khev, sign up in the War-Tent in Kagemusha :)