View Full Version : Constitutional Ratification Poll: Article E


Immortal
Jul 24, 2004, 01:54 PM
Proposed Article E Poll:


Article E. Legislative Branch

The Legislative Branch will be formed of two houses.
1.The Council of Governors will be formed of the Provincial Governors.
Each of whom is responsible for the care, management, use of
the cities, and use of lands of a province through the setting of build
queues, allocation of labourers on tiles, population rushes and drafting
of soldiers. The Council's primary purpose is to encourage cooperation
between the Provincial Governors and to encourage cooperation
between the Council and the Executive Branch.
a.Each Governor shall determine any policies and procedures needed
to carry out their duties.
2.The Congress will be formed of the entirety of the citizenry and is
responsible for the drafting of new Laws.


This poll has no replacement article as there is no existing law being replaced.

This poll will be open from 96 hours from the time appearing in this post and is considered RATIFIED/DEFEATED after this time.

Bootstoots
Jul 24, 2004, 03:27 PM
What do the governors legislate? Without the defunct Senate, how are they legislative at all?

DaveShack
Jul 24, 2004, 05:28 PM
What do the governors legislate? Without the defunct Senate, how are they legislative at all?

We ended up with this as the default place for governors, primarily due to inertia. Very late in the process I got an idea to define the provinces in their own article -- what should have happened was the governors should have moved over there, but there was no time left.

I think it's good enough for now -- as written it doesn't change the in-game mechanics from previous games and we just have a small anachronism related to the governors not legislating. Let's look at the minor restructuring task of moving the governors to Article O as an amendment after the game starts.

Cyc
Jul 24, 2004, 05:49 PM
I still believe the Governors belong in the Article above. We may find we need them there eventually, as DZ said.

Epimethius
Jul 24, 2004, 06:49 PM
I tentatively approve, since it gives the council no actual power.

Bootstoots
Jul 24, 2004, 11:45 PM
Okay, I abstain. After all, it doesn't really matter where we put the governors, though this is somewhat illogical.

Immortal
Jul 27, 2004, 10:51 PM
Please vote, I have nothing more to say.

Donovan Zoi
Jul 27, 2004, 10:52 PM
We need 6 more YES votes on this article for it to pass. What say you, japanatica?

Cyc
Jul 28, 2004, 01:16 AM
Only 5 more votes needed!

Immortal
Jul 28, 2004, 10:54 AM
requires one more vote to pass.

Immortal
Jul 28, 2004, 02:34 PM
DEFEATED Due to lack of 2/3 Yes Majority

KCCrusader
Jul 28, 2004, 09:57 PM
Sigh...

(thats all i have to say, but it's not 10 characters)

Civman2004
Jul 28, 2004, 10:31 PM
one lousy vote

Donovan Zoi
Jul 28, 2004, 10:44 PM
We're working on it guys. Post your ideas in the Article I amendment thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95244) if you want to make the ratification of laws and amendments easier to pass.