The Newbies Society exists to enhance the Demogame experience for all newcomers.

Newcomers: Any player who is playing their first Democracy game, or wishes to be called a newcomer.

Our goals:
1. Encouraging the integration of all newcomers into the Demogame community
2. Promoting the election of suitable newcomers to various offices.
3. Encouraging the rotation of offices between newcomers
4. Clarification of the roles of deputy advisors, deputy judicial officers, etc

Notes:
Goal 2 does not mean we aim to have newcomers in every position, just that we aim to develop the experience of the newcomers and enable them (on a semi-rotating basis as per goal 3) to experience the responsibility of office

Goal 4 recognises that the deputy positions are an ideal place for newcomers to gain experience, and supports the creation of separate elections for the deupty positions, rather than these positions being held by the runners-up. I suggest the promotion of the following election schedule:
Beginning of month: Election of Advisor
Midway through month: Election of Deputy

Thus the terms would overlap. Each deputy would have the opportunity to experience life under 2 advisors, and each advisor would work with 2 different deputies during their tenure. This would encourage community participation, and would mean that those who stood for the advisor position would be eligible to run for deputy 2 weeks later if they wished.

If the deputy advisor ran for election while still deputy, and succeeded, they could be replaced either by the runner up for the advisor election, or the runner up for the deputy election.

I certainly warmly welcome all newcomers to the group (and anyone who wishes to provide experienced advice), and encourage open discussion, particularly of the group's election policy.

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Civman2004
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Mhcarver
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Blackheart
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KCCrusader
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Kaoruchan
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Der Sensenmann
Zekilla
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JackA
Nobody
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Deo
Ashburnham
Fundamentality

Some useful things to know:
Citizen Complaint a complaint made in the judicial office by a citizen against a person in authority. The complaint is reviewed by the judiciary and ruled upon.
Elections are held every month. There is the president position, 6 advisors (following the advisors in Civ), a governor position for each province we define and 3 legal positions. Deputies are then appointed for most positions, as the runner-up in the election. Currently self-nominations are allowed, and citizens are allowed to nominate for as many offices as they like
Screenshots of the progress of the game are available from the screenshots forum
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94618
Turnchat: The "chat" where the turns are actually played. The DP (designated player) plays the turnchat (usually 10 turns, although this is currently being discussed) and it is discussed in the #turnchat chatroom.
So find turnchat summaries, try:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95537&page=2

Do not play the save game any irreversible actions are subject to sanction by our Demogame judiciary. You may bring up negotiations screen, look around the map, change which tiles are being worked in cities, etc, but may not move units, conclude diplomatic deals, etc. It is also illegal to go back and play old saves even after that period has already been played by the DP.

The Government section contains the offices of the various ministries - Domestic, Trade, Military, Foreign Affairs, Culture, Science

Most discussion takes place in the citizen section


If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask and I (or one of the more experienced players) will attempt to answer them. Wandering around a bit will help you get used to things.

I am a newbee, this is my first game in DG :)

Sign me up

me too! sign me up fellow Australian.

I'm newbie too but I'm in People's Delegation already. Is being in two citizen groups legal?

no its completely fine, join at will. join my samurai group :D

no its completely fine, join at will. join my samurai group :D
No thank you. I'm not agree with samurai codex.
What when two groups that I will join would have oposing goals? For example one is pacifistic and second agressive against naighbours? :confused:

hmm, theres no law stopping you. if they go out more into the RPG world then it might make a difference but if your only going to contribute occasionnaly it should make no difference.
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I'm a newb sign me up

I'm new at this thing, I'll join!

Another newbie and Australian who wants to join. I'm also a member of the Merchant Guild.

Where is the list of members?

No thank you. I'm not agree with samurai codex.
What when two groups that I will join would have oposing goals? For example one is pacifistic and second agressive against naighbours? :confused:

like BCLG said... there's nothing stopping you, I've done it before myself.

Because one group was primarily for no Agressive wars (ie. we don't start a war), and the other was primarily for military dominance and crushing those who would declare war on us.

Even if the "goals" are slightly in opposition if you have reasons for supporting both, which are not in opposition, but follow closely to both in general, it makes sence.

Though if ya really wanted to you could join two (or more) groups who have TOTALLY 100% opposite goals, the only goal of one, is to Launch aggressive wars to ensure dominance, and the other group's goal is to NEVER launch an agressive war. Doesn't make much sence, but ya could if ya want.

Sign me up I guess.

Ooh! Ooh! Me, me!

Yes, I would like to join. And I like the idea about the deputies.

Count me in too.

Count me in. I also like the idea of deputies.

like BCLG said... there's nothing stopping you, I've done it before myself.

Because one group was primarily for no Agressive wars (ie. we don't start a war), and the other was primarily for military dominance and crushing those who would declare war on us.

Even if the "goals" are slightly in opposition if you have reasons for supporting both, which are not in opposition, but follow closely to both in general, it makes sence.

Though if ya really wanted to you could join two (or more) groups who have TOTALLY 100% opposite goals, the only goal of one, is to Launch aggressive wars to ensure dominance, and the other group's goal is to NEVER launch an agressive war. Doesn't make much sence, but ya could if ya want.
Then I can be member of even all citizen groups at the same time??? If it is legal then what for are these groups??? I guess citizen which is member of several groups has greater chance as candidate in voting than not associated candidate

By the way I want to be a member of this group. (I'm newbie in that strange game)

Sign me up too. Hope this won't slow my progress to become president :)

I'm a newbie so count me in.

Technically, this isn't my first demogame, since I joined DG4 the day before the Victory Chat. I was the last citizen.

So I don't consider myself new, even though this is the first time I'll really get to experiance the game, since I've combed the archives and played such a large part in constitution and such.

@msz4 hopefully spelt right, done from memory. yes in a way it does however citizens groups themselves cannot back a single person it is against the law, the groups however give people opportunity to express their beliefs and change peoples ideas there and win votes that way.

Ok, sign me up! Seems like a good way to get to know everybody. And deputy positions will be a good way to learn how to be good leaders.

Well, this thing took off overnight (in Australia's night at least)! Welcome all, particularly my fellow Australians. Any anyone else who might be interested - keep those memberships coming in!

Am I allowed to be in more than one group at a time?

Count me in. My first demogame. I lurked DG4. But have never been in a turnchat.

MSTK: yes. it's actually unlawful for a group to bar you entry for being in another group :-D I think.

Touchy subject KCCrusader, as we have no specific law against it.

sign me up!

@msz4 hopefully spelt right, done from memory. yes in a way it does however citizens groups themselves cannot back a single person it is against the law, the groups however give people opportunity to express their beliefs and change peoples ideas there and win votes that way.
I know that citizens groups themselves cannot back a single person, but every member try to support his group voting on citizens of that group too. I don't know how veterans are voting, but as a newbie I was voting mostly on people from my citizen group. Newbies don't know people and someone could use it. How I can trust to advisor who sometimes support my group but sometimes is against group aspirations?

@msz4 hopefully spelt right, done from memory. yes in a way it does however citizens groups themselves cannot back a single person it is against the law, the groups however give people opportunity to express their beliefs and change peoples ideas there and win votes that way.

I have seen it stated in another thread (if memory serves me correctly) that a citizens group can voice support for a candidate, but cannot require members to vote for that candidate. I don't know what the benefit of that would be. It might even cause dissension within the group were it not a unanimous choice anyway.

Sign me up i need all the help i can get here :)

I am new to the Democracy Games. Please sign me up for your group.

Isn't Kaoru Rurouni Kenshin's girlfriend/wife? :D

Then, of course, it would be Kaoru-dono. :mischief:

I'll join.

Sign me in also.

I'm in. I also have a question, (this will show how new I am to this,) How do you get the pictures under your name when you post? :aargh:

I'm in. I also have a question, (this will show how new I am to this,) How do you get the pictures under your name when you post? :aargh:

Go to Quick Links (above) and chose edit Avatar.

Newb here joining up.

I will adopt all newbies in regards to Legal matters. If you have a question about any part of our legal system, just PM me and I'll get back to you. Hopefully, the Judicial thread will not have me over-loaded.

CJ Cyc
:hammer:

I will adopt all newbies in regards to Legal matters. If you have a question about any part of our legal system, just PM me and I'll get back to you. Hopefully, the Judicial thread will not have me over-loaded.

CJ Cyc
:hammer:

Cyc, I would love to work in the Judiciary in some inocuous, insignificant role. If you need a clerk or something, I'm your slave, uh man. :D

:wavey:
It certainly is refreshing to see so many new people! :D In this game, as in life, you get out of it what you put in, multiplied by the quality of what you put in. Rest assured that if you take an active and quality role in the government threads and citizen discussions, that will be recognized by the established players.

My own example shows just how quickly you can get involved. In DG3 Term 1, I had a post count in the single digits, but started posting a lot of tech path suggestions in the science threads, and settler positioning suggestions in the domestic threads. I attended some turnchats and asked some well thought out questions about game play. To my huge surprise, in term 2 my self-nomination for science leader ended in a lopsided win because a bunch of experienced players chose not to run and endorsed me as someone who deserved a chance. Some among your membership have already earned recognition for excellent work during the final phase of the rules discussions.

Feel free to drop in anytime and voice your opinions in the government threads, discussions, and polls. Our doors are always open. :D

Im new at this demogame stuff, so sign me up.

Im new to demogame ill join your group

My first Demogame ... sign me up. Still trying to figure out what I'm supposed to read and what I'm supposed to be doing.

I would like to join too cause it´s my first DemoGame. :)

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome all "newbies" to the Democracy Game! This is my first DG, as well.

Now, the pitch:

We NEED your vote! Use the links below to vote for Articles and amendments to the Constitution. So you say, "My vote can't be that important. I'm new to this." Your vote is very important. This is a democracy and if we don't achieve enough votes, our Constitution will have glaring holes in it.

Please, VOTE now. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=126)

I'm a newbie. Sign me up

:bounce: :banana:

Being newly registered, I will join. And I have a question:

If I have a question, do I report the question to the appropriate ministry/branch? Or can i just ask?

ask ahead Sir

Sir Donald III, I believe Provolution means "Ask away" or just ask.

If you have a question that seems detailed to you, feel free to start a thread abou the matter. This will draw attention to your concern and allow several people the opportunity to respond directly to it. If you know your question deals with a certain Department (military matters or cultural concerns, etc.), you can go directly to that Dept. thread and ask the Minister. Or you can just follow up something you read in some post with a quote of what you question, and ask there. Experiment, find out what works best for you. And welcome.

also you could pop into the chat room, CT never leaves and theres generally a few of us there at all times :)

Im new to the demogame as i mostly just lurk around the Civ 3 forums, saw the news post and joined your soceity immedietly I am a Newb after all, Sign me Up please

I'm also a newb and would love to join up.

Sign me up for the Newbie Society, First Demo Game :)
How do you get involved in attending turnchats, times, links ect.?

I would like to join the Newbies Society :)

zekilla, you go to chat, you can either do this using irc, or using the java link at the bottom of the page, once there go to #turnchat . i believe that is it. anyways dont be afraid to join the order of the samurai either :D

Is there a forum that posts updated maps after each turnchat?

being new to the demo game sign me up

Welcome all
@ ZeKilla, screenshots can be found at

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94618

In the overall demogame forum

I have added a link to the opening post as well.

@ newbies society members

Any questions guys, please don't hesitate to ask. I notice we have a lot of members, but not all of them are actively involving themselves much. Please don't be afraid to ask questions, particularly in here, or if sitting back and watching is your syle, that's fine too.

@ the world in general
Who can tell me how to change the way my hyperlinks appear so that it is a bit more pretty, instead of the actual URL it displays the title of the thread, or something?

@ the world in general
Who can tell me how to change the way my hyperlinks appear so that it is a bit more pretty, instead of the actual URL it displays the title of the thread, or something?
First place your blinking cursor in the text box of the reply/edit page. Then above that box, click on the "insert Hyperlink" icon (looks like the world with a chainlink at the bottom). A box will appear at the top left of the page. Enter what you wish to appear in your post in place of the link address (this could be the name of a thread or whatever text you wish. Then click ok. A new box will appear with an http:// highlighted. Right click on the highlighted http:// and click on paste in the menu that appears. The address in your clipboard will be pasted in. Click ok and the link will be created in your post.

Yeah count me in too, just joined yesterday.

But dose this mean we are allowed political parties

no no political parties are allowed

btw seeing how this is a citizens group, everyone should go here to discuss the possibility of an RPG.

Sign me up please, this is my first time.

Also, what do you mean by an RPG? I know it in terms of Role-Playing Games liek D&D etc. but what do you mean in the context of Demogame?

Thanks for help, may our newbie society flourish and prosper!

Hey all, I'm new to the demogame, and I think it's a great idea. Just joined the Merchants Guild. I guess I'm a little unclear how to get involved with one of the 'minstries.' I'm sure this is a stupid question, but if anyone could provide a little guidance ... it would be much appreciated.

-Alex

Fellow Japanaticans, feel free to read the Foreign Intelligence threads, there you will see our neigbors look through the various polls, ministries, important debates and so on.
I am certain that you will find causes you like and dislike, but that is democracy :)

I'm new to this, so count me in too.

Might take me awhile before I can get used to this.

I was wondering, do they have save games anywhere so that I could look at the game my self? I realize that even though I looked around that they are probably right under my nose.

They are in the Turn Chat Instruction threads on the main page. Reminder: Don't play the save!

Oh, thanks.

Just in case you're having problems finding one, here's the Turn Chat Instruction thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=97521) for the Turn Chat we held about 5 hours ago.

sign me up please!!

Sign me up! I think this is a really good idea to boost participation.

Welcome all

May I suggest a particularly good place to start searching over the next day is the main forum - the nomination threads. There you can see some of the platforms that the candidates (including myself) are running on, and can get a feel for what various people think should be happening over the next term (1 month). I'd encourage you to have a look and then vote - become involved in the process of democracy, it is after all the demogame!

Sign me up, please.

I'm a newbie also. Sign me up!

I would also like to join your fine organisation, iam new to this game but i have been reading it for a long time so i know most things about it. (iam normally the guest veiwing the site.)

What strikes me is that so many sign-ups are of real "first-time-citizens" (I hate "newbie"). I just checked the Citizens registry and many have a post count of under 50. Welcome to the DemoGame all.

If you have any questions, I, and many veterans are more than willing to answer them and help you.

Hey, I would like to join this group, too. I will need all the help I can get!

I'm a n00b, so I guess I'll join. This Democracy Game thing sounds very neat :D

I'm a first-time-citizen/newb so I'd like to join.

I also like to join, this is my first DemoGame

I have gotten a position! I am a FA Worker,In Demogame V i will spend some off the time encourageing newbies to get govermentel positions!

Glad to hear that JackA :)

Yay for newbies and Yay for me being one..:D

sign me up.

I would like to join my first demogame :)

---Calling all newbies---

You may have noticed that this term's elections include a large number that were uncontested. I suggest 2 things:

For the uncontested ones, try sending a PM to the successful (only) candidate, offering your services as deputy.

With more provinces, there will be more opportunities. Start becoming involved in specific areas in the demogame and look to running in an election next month!!!

Hmm, Im not sure if I consider myself a newbie since I have been around the demogame for a while. I do wish to be a freindly ally to the group.

@Civman2004 - I have sent you a PM ;).

I would like to join this society as well. I have only been around for about a month and a half and mainly posted in the demo game.

---Calling all newbies---

You may have noticed that this term's elections include a large number that were uncontested. I suggest 2 things:

For the uncontested ones, try sending a PM to the successful (only) candidate, offering your services as deputy.

With more provinces, there will be more opportunities. Start becoming involved in specific areas in the demogame and look to running in an election next month!!!

Yes please do. The doors of the Culture ministry are always open. Either post in the Culture minitry's thread or PM me, and I would be happy to suggest you to President Chieftess.

I'm in too. My first game as well.

I'll join as well, I am assuming that its too late to join but I will be ready for the next one. :)

Please sign me up for DemoGame V. (If it hasn't already started!) And please somebody help me, I'm SO lost right now...

Please sign me up for DemoGame V. (If it hasn't already started!) And please somebody help me, I'm SO lost right now...

Welcome to the DG, go to http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94617
to sign up in the citizen registry. After that, just browse through the threads and feel free to add your 2 cents. Don't be threatened if some people don't like what you have to say, that's when you know you're hitting the nail :D

Blackheart is a person that likes to hit the nail, and I would be crucified if I did not have more tentacles than an octopus. However, I follow the proverb of Blackheart, be strong on your opinions.

hey is it too late to join? I've never been in a democracy game but it sounds like fun and I want to join. I'm sort of lost as to what goes on though or where voting takes place. I'd like to follow along by viewing the maps as the game progresses though.

Hi JanSobieski, I'll hand you some links that are important to the demogame. :)

The Citizen Registry (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94617)
To really do anything in this game, you need to sign up. It's really quick and easy.

How the demogame is run (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=91345)
A great FAQ type thread answering many questions that are typical to newcomers.

The Screenshots Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94618)
Some pictures of our nation from the beginning of time to now.

The "Turnchat" Threads
Those are where the leaders for Science, Defense, etc. and Governors of Provinces of Cities posts instructions for the President to play out the turns. They are in the main forum (along with the Citizen Registry and FAQ), and inside, you will find our latest save (regular civ, version 1.29).

If you have any more questions, you can post here or in the FAQ thread. :)

sign me up!!!Ive always wanted to try this.

Then welcome aboard, zeon. We're between games at the moment, as you might have noticed, but you're welcome to join in the constitution &etc. discussions we're having. Don't be intimidated by other people who look like they know what they're talking about (they probably don't ;) ).

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP! :confused:

I am so much of a newbie that I don't realize how to START in this... concept...

I've registered (I think).... what do I do now?

Welcome Luthor. Right now, we are in between demogames. We are currently writing the constitution and preparing for demogame 6. What you can do now is read the newer threads in the citizens forum pertaining to the new game, and if you have any ideas/questions/comments feel free to post somewhere.

Its hard to tell you what to do as between demogames is a confusing time. (not that i've experienced many, or any)

Welcome. Pick a thread and jump right into the fire ;). Right now is the inbetween period, we're just discussing starting conditions, constitution, etc. for the next DG. Not really interesting unless your its your interests.

Hey Luther. click on this link. It will give you the basic Lowdown on the Demogame. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2494326&postcount=13) It's not complete yet, but it should help you get started. :thumbsup:

N'other Newb here, just joined.

N'other Newb here, just joined.

Welcome aboard.

And another. Drawn like a knife to butter, or something. When and where will we be able to register?

Hello.

-h