Arrian
Nov 16, 2001, 12:36 PM
I just wanted to relate something that happened in the game I'm currently playing. First, the scene:
Large Map, continents, 80% water, normal/normal/5billion.
Regent level, Iroquois.
A quick (at least I'll try) synopsis of the first 5700 yrs:
Boxed in right away by the Aztecs (due west), Zulu (northwest) and Americans (east). Built a bunch of Mounted Warriors and annihilated the Aztecs, getting the Oracle and Great Library in Tenochticlan :)
Proceeded to beat on the Zulu for a while, driving them into the northern tundra and leaving them with 5 or 6 cities. I now had a rather sizeable portion of my continent under my control. The Babylonians were to the south, the Persians to the southeast. I later found out that the English and French each had islands all to themselves far, far off in the ocean (the English had a large island, the French a rather small one, but the French had a couple of other islands, whereas the Brits were stuck w/just the one).
I went republic and worked on science and infrastructure. Eventually, the Zulus razed an American city up in the tundra and Abe declared war. My army was much smaller than it had been during the height of my conquests, but I saw opportunity. The Zulus had one impi on my land. I declared war. Abe's knights, with the aid of a right of passage, charged the zulu and beat up their defenses. I then, using 3 or 4 Mounted Warriors, took 4 cities. Abe got one. :D The Americans and I enjoyed great relations. I traded with them extensively.
Some time later (circa 1300 AD?) I fought the Babylonian coal war. You can guess why. Usuing Cavalry (great unit) and Riflemen, I knocked the Babs back about 8-10 tiles by capturing one city, razing two and rebuilding. They subsequently got smart and signed a mutual protection pact with the Persians. I proceeded to discover refining and found, to my great surprise and pleasure, that I had ALL THE OIL. So I set about building Tanks. Lots of Tanks. And a few Bombers. I decided to finish of the Babylonians, and I knew I could handle the Persians at the same time, especially w/my buddy Abe signing on to help out (I gave him some oil so he'd have an advantage). I wiped out the Babylonian home territories while fighting a holding action vs. the Persians. During this time I got Modern Armor. An oil resource popped up randomly in Persia, but near me, so I went and got it (razed/rebuilt). The Babs down to two cities, the Persians reeling, I made peace. Phew! Now my cities would go back to celebrating WLKD... war weariness was just beginning to worry me. It was about 1700.
Then it happened. A Man-o-War with a Galleon that I thought was a bit suspicious sailed into a cove near my capitol. The galleon proceeded to drop off an infantry, 2 spearmen and a warrior or two. You should have seen the look on my face. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! I asked them. NOPE! said good Queen Bess. Her forces were destoyed immediately by Modern Armor units. I was puzzled. I had overwhelming superiority... why would she pick a fight like that, with out of date units that couldn't possibly harm me?
So I began loading 5 transports full of M.A., Mech Inf., and Artillery, and my Battlefleet (8 Battleships/4 Destoyers, give or take a few) began steaming west. As my fleet and troops neared England, the other shoe dropped - "The Evil Americans have signed an alliance with the English against us!"
*Boggle* *Sputter*
I was so amazed I called a friend of mine to tell him about it. It got worse. The French and Americans had a mutual protection pact. So Joan picked a fight with me too. Ok, at this point I was starting to sweat. Not b/c of a military threat. That I could handle. I was worried, however, about war weariness, ESPECIALLY since I had been importing 2 luxuries from France. So I called up Xerxes, my former foe, and wrangled gems and a mutual protection pack out of him (I think I gave him a bunch of luxuries and ecology).
I methodically wiped out the Americans (which, had I realized that they would backstab me, would have been done in ancient times, as their cities are close to Salamanca and thus have low corruption). I took a city in England and razed another. I have razed 3 french cities and captured one. I'm PISSED now. I am gearing up to take the American front troops over to mainland France (the only continent my troops have not visited). I will take their Ivory. I will raze Paris. I will... well, I need to deal with the lovely virgin Queen at some point as well... I'm all over the place, doing everything at once. If memory serves, I've hit the 19th century.
Now, aside from telling the story, I bring this up because I think I figured out WHY dear Liz messed with me. Shortly after it all began, I got the following message: "The English are building the United Nations." Which means they had fission. I got it the next turn, and sure enough, they had no uranium. I have almost all of it (I think the Persians have 1, but I could be wrong). I rushbuilt the UN with the help of a fantastically talented young Tank commander from the American front so I wouldn't lose that way... nice try, Queeny.
Anyway, I don't know whether I should be impressed by the devious AI or not. They have no hope of winning. I've got the luxury rate up, I build police stations, my people are largely happy. Militarily, without Oil they have no shot. None. Now, it's true, I was eating the AI up bit by bit, and maybe (just maybe), the English pig-dogs thought "well, he's wiping everyone out piecemeal, lets try and band together and stop it before it's too late." Except is IS too late - I will taunt them a second time! (couldn't resist throwing in a Monty Python line in a post this long).
-Arrian
Large Map, continents, 80% water, normal/normal/5billion.
Regent level, Iroquois.
A quick (at least I'll try) synopsis of the first 5700 yrs:
Boxed in right away by the Aztecs (due west), Zulu (northwest) and Americans (east). Built a bunch of Mounted Warriors and annihilated the Aztecs, getting the Oracle and Great Library in Tenochticlan :)
Proceeded to beat on the Zulu for a while, driving them into the northern tundra and leaving them with 5 or 6 cities. I now had a rather sizeable portion of my continent under my control. The Babylonians were to the south, the Persians to the southeast. I later found out that the English and French each had islands all to themselves far, far off in the ocean (the English had a large island, the French a rather small one, but the French had a couple of other islands, whereas the Brits were stuck w/just the one).
I went republic and worked on science and infrastructure. Eventually, the Zulus razed an American city up in the tundra and Abe declared war. My army was much smaller than it had been during the height of my conquests, but I saw opportunity. The Zulus had one impi on my land. I declared war. Abe's knights, with the aid of a right of passage, charged the zulu and beat up their defenses. I then, using 3 or 4 Mounted Warriors, took 4 cities. Abe got one. :D The Americans and I enjoyed great relations. I traded with them extensively.
Some time later (circa 1300 AD?) I fought the Babylonian coal war. You can guess why. Usuing Cavalry (great unit) and Riflemen, I knocked the Babs back about 8-10 tiles by capturing one city, razing two and rebuilding. They subsequently got smart and signed a mutual protection pact with the Persians. I proceeded to discover refining and found, to my great surprise and pleasure, that I had ALL THE OIL. So I set about building Tanks. Lots of Tanks. And a few Bombers. I decided to finish of the Babylonians, and I knew I could handle the Persians at the same time, especially w/my buddy Abe signing on to help out (I gave him some oil so he'd have an advantage). I wiped out the Babylonian home territories while fighting a holding action vs. the Persians. During this time I got Modern Armor. An oil resource popped up randomly in Persia, but near me, so I went and got it (razed/rebuilt). The Babs down to two cities, the Persians reeling, I made peace. Phew! Now my cities would go back to celebrating WLKD... war weariness was just beginning to worry me. It was about 1700.
Then it happened. A Man-o-War with a Galleon that I thought was a bit suspicious sailed into a cove near my capitol. The galleon proceeded to drop off an infantry, 2 spearmen and a warrior or two. You should have seen the look on my face. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! I asked them. NOPE! said good Queen Bess. Her forces were destoyed immediately by Modern Armor units. I was puzzled. I had overwhelming superiority... why would she pick a fight like that, with out of date units that couldn't possibly harm me?
So I began loading 5 transports full of M.A., Mech Inf., and Artillery, and my Battlefleet (8 Battleships/4 Destoyers, give or take a few) began steaming west. As my fleet and troops neared England, the other shoe dropped - "The Evil Americans have signed an alliance with the English against us!"
*Boggle* *Sputter*
I was so amazed I called a friend of mine to tell him about it. It got worse. The French and Americans had a mutual protection pact. So Joan picked a fight with me too. Ok, at this point I was starting to sweat. Not b/c of a military threat. That I could handle. I was worried, however, about war weariness, ESPECIALLY since I had been importing 2 luxuries from France. So I called up Xerxes, my former foe, and wrangled gems and a mutual protection pack out of him (I think I gave him a bunch of luxuries and ecology).
I methodically wiped out the Americans (which, had I realized that they would backstab me, would have been done in ancient times, as their cities are close to Salamanca and thus have low corruption). I took a city in England and razed another. I have razed 3 french cities and captured one. I'm PISSED now. I am gearing up to take the American front troops over to mainland France (the only continent my troops have not visited). I will take their Ivory. I will raze Paris. I will... well, I need to deal with the lovely virgin Queen at some point as well... I'm all over the place, doing everything at once. If memory serves, I've hit the 19th century.
Now, aside from telling the story, I bring this up because I think I figured out WHY dear Liz messed with me. Shortly after it all began, I got the following message: "The English are building the United Nations." Which means they had fission. I got it the next turn, and sure enough, they had no uranium. I have almost all of it (I think the Persians have 1, but I could be wrong). I rushbuilt the UN with the help of a fantastically talented young Tank commander from the American front so I wouldn't lose that way... nice try, Queeny.
Anyway, I don't know whether I should be impressed by the devious AI or not. They have no hope of winning. I've got the luxury rate up, I build police stations, my people are largely happy. Militarily, without Oil they have no shot. None. Now, it's true, I was eating the AI up bit by bit, and maybe (just maybe), the English pig-dogs thought "well, he's wiping everyone out piecemeal, lets try and band together and stop it before it's too late." Except is IS too late - I will taunt them a second time! (couldn't resist throwing in a Monty Python line in a post this long).
-Arrian