How do u think u can racognizze them?

I have a couple

refer to Zelda OoT as: "Zelda " or "The first Zelda".
Thinks that the PSX is more powerful than the N64 because PSX games have FMV.
And for example Ive noticed that if most of the games he owns are sports game...probably its a newbie ( hey I said most games not a lot..for example if u have only 6 games and 4 are from sports ..its different to have 6 sports games out of 20 15 games)

How d u think u can recognize them??.

In fighting games, they just press random buttons, or even worse, the same button over and over.

They say 'Sid who?' :)

If all the sports games he owns are each year's incarnation of Madden, you have a newbie.

Newbie question most likely to be asked at a gaming site: "What are the cheats for..."

If you play them at Tekken 4, they pick Christie, and then randomly bash the buttons. Surprisingly effective, and really annoying...

take a look trough civ4 ideas&suggestions and you'll easily identify them. *shudders* that place is a breeding ground for newbs, and i took it upon myslef to read every idea they had *shudders uncontrollaby to the point where my mom is currently helping me hit "post quick reply"*

For Warcraft..

A noob is the one that gets owned easily, the one that doesn't even know what peons are for ...or that the hero is the most important unit, and the one thas has ABSOLUTELY no micro..

For Warcraft..

A noob is the one that gets owned easily, the one that doesn't even know what peons are for ...or that the hero is the most important unit, and the one thas has ABSOLUTELY no micro..
I've never played Warcraft in my life and I knew that. :rolleyes:

it usually counts for most games..so...........

I don't see what good will come out of all this newbie bashing or joking. :hmm:

Everybody has to be a newbie at a new game at one time.

In fighting games, they just press random buttons,

I do that. But that's because I don't even bother to learn the moves, I don't play fighting games enough to be bothered. :p

I wouldn't consider owning mostly sports games a sign on newbiness either, it's just the games that person plays.

For counter-strike...

You turn the corner and get shot by your teamate because "you look like a terrorist uniform."

For Wolfenstein Enemy Territory...
Doesn't help his team at all, being a covert ops with sniper standing on the top of hill :)

I don't see what good will come out of all this newbie bashing or joking. :hmm:

Everybody has to be a newbie at a new game at one time.

Think of it as like making fun of the freshmen. There's nothing wrong with a little light-hearted elitism. :smug:

I don't see what good will come out of all this newbie bashing or joking. :hmm:

Everybody has to be a newbie at a new game at one time.

Yeah, I remember my time.

"What's lol? Why are you going Imfao? What's ping?"

I find total newbism when I play my RTS Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds and after the big instructions pop up and make the noise, people still don't know even HOW to play. Even though some are experts, if you can't even read instructions...

Yeah i know, The instructions are there and thy cant even read. and alot of the time there's info in the objectives.

People are too lazy to read the information by clicking a button. I can understand that. But when it's right in front of you... People even mess up in the tutorials. I mean, come on... they actually Speak it to you...

They might have the sound off... Plus sometimes tutorials can be very annoying if you have to do things in a specific order when you know what you need to do already...

I agree with Ybbor. The CIV forum is a hive of newbies. Yikes. Most of there ideas are very scary.

I find newb bashers even more annoying. ;)

Seriuously, the guys who yell "Newbie" when I ask a simple question. Just ignore me or answer it - I don't need to hear "Fing Newbie"!!

Simple, they say "what is civilization? Is it fun?"

ummm I noticed another way...they think games like suikoden or street figther suck because they are in 2D.

that's just being ignorant...

For counter-strike...

You turn the corner and get shot by your teamate because "you look like a terrorist uniform."

Also from cs: i think this picture will explain all:
http://www.hot.ee/elcactus/nuub.jpg

How do u think u can racognizze them?

................

How d u think u can recognize them??.

Typing like that can often be a good clue.

Plus theres nothing wrong with any amount of sports games, if theyre good games. (Pro Evolution Soccer/Winning Eleven)

They might have the sound off... Plus sometimes tutorials can be very annoying if you have to do things in a specific order when you know what you need to do already...

Then they should skip the tutorials. :D


Also from cs: i think this picture will explain all:

I love that picture.

Then they should skip the tutorials. :D

It might be a tutorial that you can't skip...

I can beat them.

To recognize a newbie civ player: one city and lots of warriors walking around. Hasn't figured out how to change production in the city screen yet. (it happened to me...)

and me

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They trump thier partner's trick!

They trump thier partner's trick!

Now you know why I play hearts.

Although I'm better at Euchre than Spades...

I belive one player of Warcraft III said it best when he established the difference between newbies and n00bs:

Newbie: One who is new to or unskilled in a game, newbies often have simple strategies and don't know what they're doing at first, but thay have the ability to learn and will except advice from others.

n00b (that's n[zero][zero]b): A person who is new to a game, but not willing to admit it. They make up lame excuses for their shortcomings and flame others who attempt to advise or criticise their gameplay.

The main factor seperating the two: the newb is just ignorant of the game and will grow out of it, whereas the n00b is just some idiot who will just sit there thinking he/she's the greatest ever.

noob of mtw: does not put valor on his men

all cav armies

all infantry are spears

no missile units

rushes straight forward into enemy

Everyone starts out as a noob/novice when you're just starting to learn, but scrubs never get better. I think its because they're always asking the wrong questions. Instead of thinking about how to play the game and asking themselves how to better play the game, theyre always concerned more about something that doesnt affect their playing, like why can't i do <insert fanboy based wish>, why is the game graphic bad, i don't understand the story plot, how can i cheat, why am i losing to everyone... this game is rigged etc.

There you have an example of noobs....
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96871

Everyone starts out as a noob/novice when you're just starting to learn, but scrubs never get better. I think its because they're always asking the wrong questions. Instead of thinking about how to play the game and asking themselves how to better play the game, theyre always concerned more about something that doesnt affect their playing, like why can't i do <insert fanboy based wish>, why is the game graphic bad, i don't understand the story plot, how can i cheat, why am i losing to everyone... this game is rigged etc.

There you have an example of noobs....
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96871

I have chatted in those threads and I'm not a noob (whether I chatted there or not). How does giving your opinion on who is the best video game character make you a noob?

boooo to netgear :-p

There you have an example of noobs....
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96871

here you hve an exapmle of a jerk: jerk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2099549&postcount=37)

lol thanks guys for agreeing with me. It'd be funny if Netgear actually voted in that thread...

I have chatted in those threads and I'm not a noob (whether I chatted there or not). How does giving your opinion on who is the best video game character make you a noob?

and did you read what i posted there? how does arguing who is better help at all. All the video game character are in different game where they play differently. You can't compare and contrast shiek VS mitsurugi for example. Only fanboys do that and it doesnt contribute to anything resourceful in getting better at smash brother or soul calibur. In fact it is quite the opposite of resourceful cause those topics are highly based on opinions. And most people that like to discuss such topic can become very immature and start flaming. Its not only unresourceful but harmful i might say. I said scrubs tend to spend time chatting away on unresourceful topic such as those way more than topic that discusses indepth strategy of that game. And it's true. If scrubs bothered to pay attention to how the game is played instead of chatting away in fanboy topic, they could get better. but they dont. thread I linked is just an example of such pointless chats that dont help your game.

Label me as a jerk. But I only said what was very true to most gamers. After all, you can be called a jerk for saying whats true in many different situations.... Most people would rather want to hear nice things be said even though it isnt the case

Netgear has a point you know. Those kinds of discussion never ever go anywhere, and entirely come down to personal opinion. And of course, the characters aren't real. Discussing how they would do against each other is pointless because of that fact. It will not matter which character ends up winning the poll, as there will be people who think it was rigged or something, as their favourite character didn't win.

This is exactly why I haven't bothered posting or voting in it. I look at it and the posts inside it with mild amusement at the whole pointlessness of it all. :p

I don't see what good will come out of all this newbie bashing or joking. :hmm:

Everybody has to be a newbie at a new game at one time.
suprisingly, not with me. In fact I usually beat games the first day I play them (THAT is sad)

There you have an example of noobs....
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96871

I think 'noobs' (man I hate that word) isn't the right word, Fanboys is a better word. It just pointless saying who is the 'best' character, because it will not change the preson's mind about it.


Anyways back on Topic.

-They think Alt-F4 is a cheat.
-They don't know how to Deploy the MCV in Command and Conquer. (I had this happened, on my team on a 2-2 :mad: )
-They drive a tank/jeep to the airfield in Battlefield 1942. To get to the planes first only to crash 3 sec later, or get beat to it and say the person stole their plane and tried to TK that preson for the rest of the game
-They drive over their team's LandMines in BF1942, even throught there is a waring of landmines and the preson who put them there said watch out for the mines. (This is the worst, not only do they make a hole in the minefield, it counts as a TK for the engineer


The Engineer is one of the worst classes to play as in that game, people never thank you for repairing their tank/plane/ect, but always blame you when they rolls over your mind. :mad:

chaos. no u've not understood my very first post i guess.

Everyone starts out a newbie. Newbie simply means you have no experience or knowledge of how game is played. Newbies doesnt mean you suck. You might be sucking for that moment when you're picking up the game but as you are learning you grow out of the newb stage. Scrubs are people who have not any more knowledge than newbs and have very warped ideas about how game should be played. and usually they are very stubborn to accept good ideas and strategies from better players. because of that they usually aren't good. WHat you described above to me, would seem to be a scrub player.

fanboys are almost always in along with the scrub category cause they can't seem to focus on how to play the game, but indulge themselves in useless chatters. If you like SSBM for example, why not spend time observing how shiek VS marth match unfolds and try to come up with creative strategies and counter strategies. Discussing a marth VS mitsurugi topic... now that is just gonna go nowhere.

Well I know everyone starts out as a newbie, but the 'noobs' are people who are newbies that don't try to impovre.

BTW I was just getting back on topic when I was making that list

Okay. netgear, You yourself such long posts, you are wasting your time on pointless stuff just like you accuse people like me who've posted in the thread. The forum is to discuss stuff about games, so it doesn't matter really if we argue or not. It's what we choose to do. Notice that I haven't flamed or anything so far, and I'm not actually arguing, but people are making up ideas of how the characters would fight each other. Everyone knows it's not real, so what's wrong with imagining it was. Viedo games themselves aren't real, yet we still enjoy talking about them. And by arguing with me you are doing what you don't like other people for.

You're making no friends here netgear. ;)

DaBomb, Im glad you pointed this fact out, since thats clear indication of us having a good discussion/arguement, rather than "OMG STFU ******* **** you!!!111!!". I was hoping someone would bring this up. As it is an absolutely a valid statement.

First you must realize if you observe "what is the point?" arguement deeply, you realize nothing has a point. Me posting here has no point, fanboying has no point, getting better has no point, getting good job has no point, etc. Using "There's no point" is merely a cheap argument.

So while knowing this, why did I accuse other's action as being pointless? Well I guess I didnt wanna be so politicaly and technically correct to explain every lil detail about my arguement... and I guess I was also trying to troll an good response against mine as well.

So having said that, consider this. What you said is 100% correct. As long as you have fun fanboying away to your wildest dream without flaming, it doesnt matter whether its pointless. As long as it has point to you. After all thats all that matters. And noobs too! who cares if they dont know how to even drive vehicles in UT2K4 and BF1942? As long as they are having fun right? After all they know no better to just crash and kill teammates, but theyre playing a new game and having lots of fun. It doesnt matter if you're good or not as long as ur having fun in the end. And no one should criticize how one plays a game. But so far no one has come to n00b's defense, when they were put in a negative light.

have in mind that fanboying is always going to be treated as a scrubby activity, just like how this thread treat the noobs. Why? cause it contributes nothing to the game. Its annoying IMO that fanboys would rather flood with chats that doesnt help me with the game. Just like how everyone of us here that contributed to their lil ode to hating 'noobs'. I dont like fanboys. Cause they dont help my game. They dont contribute anything worthwhile to game communities.

You can fanboy all you want. hey, as long as you have fun doing it. right? but just like how your attitude was toward n00bs. Gamer's attitude toward fanboys arent going to be so nice. And you can't expect us to act anyway different than what you've done so urself. making negative remarks about what it is to be a fanboy. Just like what it is to be a noob.

PS, last one was measle 2 paragraph. Hardly justifies as being called long. Now this one.. is long :D And even this one isnt bad. you make it sound as reading a bit is gonna kill. :p

You're making no friends here netgear
Im not here to make friends. I really dont give a damn about anyone of you. Im here to discuss and argue. Im interested in what you have to say.

I wouldn't even call that a long post. I've seen longer. ;)

People who are new to a game and try to learn the game I don't mind, I'll help them out. The ones who don't bother trying to learn the game are just as bad as fanboys.

And I guarantee that thread will go nowhere. I was involved in a thread on gamefaqs once, that was about who would win in a fight. Kefka or Sephiroth. I ignored it in the end, as it got to something like 10 pages and was just going nowhere.

Im not here to make friends. I really dont give a damn about anyone of you. Im here to discuss and argue. Im interested in what you have to say.
(Sigh) So confrontational. I see nothing wrong with a poll that has people choose their favorite character. As SoG said:this is like a favorite SSBM poll...Much more valid than how to recognize a n00b.

suprisingly, not with me. In fact I usually beat games the first day I play them (THAT is sad)Oh?

Try Victoria, and report to me your first day results... :evil:

Hello, munzy. :)

DaBomb, Im glad you pointed this fact out, since thats clear indication of us having a good discussion/arguement, rather than "OMG STFU ******* **** you!!!111!!". I was hoping someone would bring this up. As it is an absolutely a valid statement.

First you must realize if you observe "what is the point?" arguement deeply, you realize nothing has a point. Me posting here has no point, fanboying has no point, getting better has no point, getting good job has no point, etc. Using "There's no point" is merely a cheap argument.

So while knowing this, why did I accuse other's action as being pointless? Well I guess I didnt wanna be so politicaly and technically correct to explain every lil detail about my arguement... and I guess I was also trying to troll an good response against mine as well.

So having said that, consider this. What you said is 100% correct. As long as you have fun fanboying away to your wildest dream without flaming, it doesnt matter whether its pointless. As long as it has point to you. After all thats all that matters. And noobs too! who cares if they dont know how to even drive vehicles in UT2K4 and BF1942? As long as they are having fun right? After all they know no better to just crash and kill teammates, but theyre playing a new game and having lots of fun. It doesnt matter if you're good or not as long as ur having fun in the end. And no one should criticize how one plays a game. But so far no one has come to n00b's defense, when they were put in a negative light.

have in mind that fanboying is always going to be treated as a scrubby activity, just like how this thread treat the noobs. Why? cause it contributes nothing to the game. Its annoying IMO that fanboys would rather flood with chats that doesnt help me with the game. Just like how everyone of us here that contributed to their lil ode to hating 'noobs'. I dont like fanboys. Cause they dont help my game. They dont contribute anything worthwhile to game communities.

You can fanboy all you want. hey, as long as you have fun doing it. right? but just like how your attitude was toward n00bs. Gamer's attitude toward fanboys arent going to be so nice. And you can't expect us to act anyway different than what you've done so urself. making negative remarks about what it is to be a fanboy. Just like what it is to be a noob.

PS, last one was measle 2 paragraph. Hardly justifies as being called long. Now this one.. is long :D And even this one isnt bad. you make it sound as reading a bit is gonna kill. :p


Im not here to make friends. I really dont give a damn about anyone of you. Im here to discuss and argue. Im interested in what you have to say.

I like where you said, getting good job has no point.
I think getting a good job has a pretty big point. Without a good job to pay for the computer you're on and the internet service you have (unless you use someone else's computer, which means you need a good job) you wouldn't be able to talk here.

hey, just trying to converse peacefully. :D

(Sigh) So confrontational. I see nothing wrong with a poll that has people choose their favorite character. As SoG said:Much more valid than how to recognize a n00b.

read my longass post. already addressed.

By me:

So having said that, consider this. What you said is 100% correct. As long as you have fun fanboying away to your wildest dream without flaming, it doesnt matter whether its pointless. As long as it has point to you. After all thats all that matters. And noobs too! who cares if they dont know how to even drive vehicles in UT2K4 and BF1942? As long as they are having fun right? After all they know no better to just crash and kill teammates, but theyre playing a new game and having lots of fun. It doesnt matter if you're good or not as long as ur having fun in the end. And no one should criticize how one plays a game. But so far no one has come to n00b's defense, when they were put in a negative light.

I like where you said, getting good job has no point.
I think getting a good job has a pretty big point. Without a good job to pay for the computer you're on and the internet service you have (unless you use someone else's computer, which means you need a good job) you wouldn't be able to talk here.
Ok so you get a job to pay for ur computer. whats the point of having a computer. whats the point of posting here. Keep asking this question to urself and come back to me when you realize if u keep asking this question u'll eventually hit that meaning of life crap and realize asking what is the point of anything is an invalid arguement.

That is my point. :lol:

Replacing "o" with "0" is so damn cool

same as replacing e with 3, for with 4 and to with 2 :rolleyes:

-They think Alt-F4 is a cheat.
-They don't know how to Deploy the MCV in Command and Conquer. (I had this happened, on my team on a 2-2 :mad: )
-They drive a tank/jeep to the airfield in Battlefield 1942. To get to the planes first only to crash 3 sec later, or get beat to it and say the person stole their plane and tried to TK that preson for the rest of the game
-They drive over their team's LandMines in BF1942, even throught there is a waring of landmines and the preson who put them there said watch out for the mines. (This is the worst, not only do they make a hole in the minefield, it counts as a TK for the engineer


The Engineer is one of the worst classes to play as in that game, people never thank you for repairing their tank/plane/ect, but always blame you when they rolls over your mind. :mad:

<3 people that drive tanks and jeeps to airfield so I'm stuck in the base getting bombed by an enemy plane B)

Eh, running over mines on purpose. I'm guilty of that but I do on purpose, as in proving to the person that laid them that they were lain in an IDIOTIC place. Like right outside the airfield on Wake... you dont lay them there. EVER.

And the engineer is one of the best classes to play. If you don't get thanked, oh well. Hopefully you get thanked when you win later. The positives of the engineer class FAR outway the negatives.

Im not here to make friends. I really dont give a damn about anyone of you. Im here to discuss and argue. Im interested in what you have to say.
Well, we're all here to have fun, and acting nice to each other and not trolling is part of that game. (That's why trolling is forbidden according to the rules. :p)

To avoid this thread "going nowhere":
As NetGear pointed out, you can consider a newbie someone who simply plays a game for the first time, or someone who plays stupid because he actually doesn't know the game, but doesn't want to learn or grow better either. I think NetGear's right about that. However, making such distinction and elaborating it after someone just made fun about the second type - I would call that "killing the joke".

I don't think this thread asks for a heavy debate. :) Just have fun, and make fun of those st00p!d n00b's. :D

Eh, running over mines on purpose. I'm guilty of that but I do on purpose, as in proving to the person that laid them that they were lain in an IDIOTIC place. Like right outside the airfield on Wake... you dont lay them there. EVER.

Yeah, I wasn't talking about badly placed mines. I one time placed them on the bridge that leads to the Germans uncappable base, and a preson going to camp the enemy base ran over them.

And the engineer is one of the best classes to play. If you don't get thanked, oh well. Hopefully you get thanked when you win later. The positives of the engineer class FAR outway the negatives.

Yeah I love the engineer, but I got kicked a number of times for TKing (like when a Fully loaded APC runs over a mine I put down), and never been thanks for repairing.

okay... netgear... UV WON THIS TIME BUT ILL BE BACK!!!!! :mad:

It might be a tutorial that you can't skip...

Bloody "Black & White" :mad:

actually, I usually like newbies. most of them were at least friendly, something I can't say about the self-pronounced pros in a game. now these are really annonying. In one of my first multiplayer warcraft3 games I was teamed up with one of those. after about 5mins he started screaming NOOOOOOOOB, IDIOT, give me gold, etc. continously along with some terms I can't name here. of course, we lost.
A week later played a 1v1-game against him and beat him up big time :evil:

I've NEVER seen a fully loaded APC and I've been playin the game for almost 2 years...

Very good point, KaeptnOvi!! ;) We've had one here in the Civ2 community as well: EyesOfNight. He was absolutely the best Civ2 player and bragger. Eventually he spoiled the atmosphere so much we had to ban him. :undecide: (He did brake some forum rules as well, by the way. Especially trolling. ;))

Yeah, I wasn't talking about badly placed mines. I one time placed them on the bridge that leads to the Germans uncappable base, and a preson going to camp the enemy base ran over them.

I once saw a guy (we we're allied) driving his 19% tank to the bridge in the norteast part of Battle of The Bulge, removing my mines, driving over and of course getting killed before he even got over the bridge (and that's a small bridge). Then the german tanks came flooding in. :aargh:

The difference between a beginner and a noob is none. The difference are between the person calling someone a noob (he's a bastrd) and the one referring to them as beginners (he's not a bastrd).

I think those are all good points. Something we should all work on is not calling people a noob. Even if you are the best gamer in the galaxy and they never learn how to play in one year, how about if you were a noob. Would you like everyone cussing you out and insulting you and blocking you? Even noobs have priveleges too you know. I mean, there are "noob-only" games (which there should be more of) but sometimes you just want to which some noob @$$ anyways.

In OFP CTI. They give away vital information to the enemy, because they chat on global channel, despite all their team mates telling them to switch to side channel for the past 15 minutes.

What's OFP CTI? In Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds some people do that same thing. They automatically switch to talk to everyone so sometimes I'll hear my enemy like conversing with someone but I only hear one side of it.

noob=a bser

A bser, for those who don't play Warcraft (or maybe you know, I don't know), is someone who doesn't give a *cough* about what they're doing. They'll just sit there, or build nothing but Ancient of Wonders. I had one guy tell the other team what we were saying in allied chat. Thats a noob. Another noob thing is CALLING others a noob when they don't deserve it. Perhaps one tactical mistake, and they start yelling and cursing. I'll admit, I've done it in the past, but I realize it's wrong now.

I think the noobs are those guys in starcraft that are allied to you, don't help at all when you're fighting against another team, and shout directed at you "n00b u gonna k1ll us". Then when you get attacked by the enemy, they all deflect to the enemy's side.
Maybe it's just me, but every time I play starcraft on battle.net without my friends I get back-stabbed.

That's what sux about Starcraft you can't lock teams. One time my ally put a bunch of sunken clonies right outside my base then switched to my enemy. He was obviously better, but why turn on ur allies if u know they aren't as good. It'll only hurt you in the long run¿