Thanks for the election of a non-existant province, but man, will it be a great province in the future. This province will not forever be doomed to being called Province #1, and it will be the province that will lead our civ to victory, as it is the province of our grand capital (well soon to be grand capital).

Zarnia: Praetor Zarn
Deputy: None

Stats will be updated in next term, including mayors of cities.

Congratulations on winning this independently of Noldodan taking Domestic. :D

I like the proposed city information format.

*cough* Deputy *cough*

Mayor Cyco (who doesn't exist) ;)

Hey! That's my joke. :lol: The game hasn't even started and the Chief Justice is already being plagiarized by the Governor. :D

Cyc wanders off to the Law Library again...

*cough* Deputy *cough*

The election would make you deputy (and believe me, you would be a great deputy), but can you hold both the position of deputy and the position of Domestic Minister? I wasn't so sure on that.

Mr Governor:
Do you have any ideas on what to name your province?

edit: Sorry, just saw the thread in the citizens forum

Well, I'll be happy to map it out for you. As the

OFFICIAL JAPANATICAN CARTOGRAPHER!

(Don't ruin my moment :cry: )

What about adding any unconnected resources with the province?

Zarn - I'm not sure if this should be addressed to you, but just wanting to know:
If we're producing a settler, and about to pop a goody hut, are we going to change production in the city for that turn only (can't get a settler from a goody hut if you're producing one in one of your existing cities)?

Governor, for our first build queue, I suggest 2 warriors, and a settler be built. Assuming the settler is moved SE, irragate the wheat first, then road, and mine the other wheat next. Then, mine the closest bonus grassland in sight. This should get us a nice settler factory.

Governor, for our first build queue, I suggest 2 warriors, and a settler be built. Assuming the settler is moved SE, irragate the wheat first, then road, and mine the other wheat next. Then, mine the closest bonus grassland in sight. This should get us a nice settler factory.

I disagree with this, Gov. First of all, it looks like the Northern Jungle tile is going to win in the poll. :cool: Second, regardless of where we plant the Settler, we should not be irrigating those Wheats. We will obviously be using both Wheats first. That means, without ANY improvement on them we'd go 14 turns with only one shield. If we irrigate a Wheat, we may cut that down to say 10 turns (est.). If we mine the Wheat, in 6 turns we double our shield strength. If we move over and mine the second Wheat, we triple our production shields in 13 turns.

We are going to grow fast enough without irrigating. Spending 6 turns to irrigate so we can gain 1 food and grow too quicky is not what we need. We need shields, one in each Wheat. We can irrigate them later in the game. For the first 2 or 3 millenia our Capital will remain fairly small, as it will probably be producing Settlers and Workers. This means the Wheats will be our mainstays. We need a shield in each Wheat.

I always mine my wheat, since I rely on building things faster. For that reason as well as Cyc's arguement I must say that the wheat (both of them) should be mined.

As for the queue, I think two warriors are the way to go. After that, well I'll have to crunch some numbers to see.

I always mine my wheat, since I rely on building things faster. For that reason as well as Cyc's arguement I must say that the wheat (both of them) should be mined.

As for the queue, I think two warriors are the way to go. After that, well I'll have to crunch some numbers to see.

I agree, mine both the wheats first. That way we have better production and decent growth.

I wish for the govenorship of "Province #1" to partisipate and cast there vote in the Dealing with Demands from other nations - Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96098) thread :).

Thanks,
CivGeneral

Honorable Governor Zarn

I am about to launch the Ringi Reform of Japanatica, and the first target is the city localization and development. As the Governor, you are interested in building production facilities such as factory, energy source plants, as well as city expansion improvements such as aqueduct and hospital or to find a cheaper alternative by building next to a river ., in order to develop appropriate build queues and in perspective wonders that promote production.

Please investigate the City Proposal Thread and assess the printed map, marcation of future city borders, the tile production by shield, gold food and gold. Shield is the most critical aspect for your Departments needs, and food in perspective, as you would need to scale the city over time.

So whenever a proposed city comes into the view on that thread, grade it from 0-5 based on how good the city location is. Also grade the city for its production resources, as well as roads to other cities and so on.
When complete, write 3-5 lines on the point selection, and submit it with the Domestic Affairs Ministry. If the City alternative is approved and selected for polling, you are free to, but not obliged, to write in the city proposal thread in order to influence the outcome. I have posted similar posts in the other Departments.

Governor,

I have come with (what I feel is) the optimum way for us to pump out a Settler next ASAP. This option is currently winning in an ongoing poll elsewhere, and the results might change. However, I feel it's important to point this out.

We could cut our production time for the Settler in half (from 12 turns to 6 turns), and double our growth time (from 2 turns to 4 turns), by switching the one citizen on the undeveloped wheat over to the only forest within our city Radius.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Settler_Optomized.jpg

Here's my planned citizen distrobution, and the resulting growth, commerce, and production.

I feel this is far better then 12 (less after growth) turns waiting for a new Settler. Once that settler is built we can continue the warrior production, however, we'll need to have a location for the settler to relocate to when it is built, we can't have him sitting idle.

Falcon02

I always had faith in you, and this proves you can deliver. I expect nothing less when people present a proposed city, not just throwinjg out a location.Some people think it is too hard to do what you just did, and too timeconsuming. Well, you just proved them wrong. :) Good Job Falcon !

Thanks, Falcon. I will put it under the governor's orders. The people (it seems so anyway) want a settler, and this would be the best way to do it.

My apologies as the computer in my basement somehow lost internet connection, so I couldn't be here from the last day I posted. I finally got my computer (the one in my room) to work, which is alot faster! I just have to get that basement one to work online, because I don't like things not working in my house.

As for settler location, Minister Noldodan seems to have that under control.

Good job, Falc. Way to keep an eye on things.

Zarn, you need to add Fanatikku into Zarnia, and remove the Bobsville example.
I saw some that sabotaged your governorship legally that is upsetting.

Okay guys. We need something in production after that warrior (It will give us par with the military limitations).

Warrior: Good for exploring. If we build it we will be one over on the unit limits.

Worker: If we build it we will be one over one the unit limits.

Temple: We don't need it right away, unless we are going for a cultural victory. 1 to maintain.

Barracks: Veteran units, but do we need them, yet? 1 to maintain.

settler settler settler

settler settler settler

Can we produce a settler that fast?

Our city will hit size 2, two turns after the warrior is produced. How long will it take to get to size three?

I'd personally like to have at least 3 warriors. 1 - scouting, 1 for settler-escort and 1 for Capital-protection. When we have 2 or 3 cities; the Capital can be on a granary -> settler-pump setting, but right now I prefer some units that can actually fight.

settler settler settler

I'm sorry the age where our settlers will be safe from Barbarians is soon coming to an end, and by pumping out just settlers not only will we likely waste production (from being finished before the city reaches size 3), but we are opening ourselves to losing the settlers we've tried to rush up by not providing escorts.

A city gets sacked, we lose 1 pop, some gold, and some production and time.

A settler gets killed we lose 1 pop (waste 2), and ALL the production and time that went into building the settler, not to mention the short term income/production from the new city.

I can agree to the current settler going unescorted, but after that we must have an escort in place.

EDIT: btw I feel another warrior or two before the next settler is appropriate.

Let's build another warrior for now and see what our scouts find before we build settlers.

Warrior for scouting!!

PS: We should have settled to the east... see that wheat on the flood plain???

I want that Eastern desert to be called Arid Zona, after Daveschacks IRL state.
Well, that desert is indeed an arid zone. (Is that native American or LAtin for desert?)

One of three theories on the name is that its from the Spanish words "árida zona" meaning arid zone.

Dear Governor Zarn,

Do you realize the Judiciary has decided that you don't really exist? Do you know they are trying to put you out of a job? Why don't you request a judicial review to get governors the legal recognition they deserve? Yes, I know they *grandfathered* you in, but think of term two. Don't take this lying down. Stand up and fight for governors!

May the force be with you!

Your humble servant,
donsig

Since we will almost certainly build a new city next chat, please include your advice / instructions on what it should start producing.

congrats zarn! your office is offical now with the passing of article E :D

Zarn, I wish you the best, but be warned that we are not passing many decisions.

I wish for the Govenorship of Province #1 to cast there votes and partisipate in the Babylon Trade (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96642) thread :).

Thanks,
CivGeneral

It's Zarnia, and don't you forget it. ;)

Maybe you should change the title, then. ;)

LOL, you can say that now you finally changed the signature :)

I can only change the title of the 1st post for some reason.

Oh, and it isn't really Governor Zarn. It's Praetor Zarn. ;)

Zarn, Daimyo Zarn, this is Japan :)

Zarn, Daimyo Zarn, this is Japan :)

I'm the Praetor of Yevon, a religous group in this demogame. So ha. Take that. ;) :crazyeye:

LOL :) Preator

We dont have any sort of a defense at this point. We really need another warrior ASAP.

We dont have any sort of a defense at this point. We really need another warrior ASAP.

I'm already on it. ;)

Provo: It's P-R-A-E-T-O-R. :p

I can only change the title of the 1st post for some reason.

Oh, and it isn't really Governor Zarn. It's Praetor Zarn. ;)
You can post in the needed things and have a mod change it for you :).

I'm sure Praetor Zarn knows that a simple request in the needed things thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95566) will allow changes by a mod ...

It's Zarnia, and don't you forget it. ;)

You are kidding, right? How is it Zarnia if it lost to abstain in the poll?

I know you were generous to even let the people in on the decision, but now that they have spoken you will ignore it? If that is the case, you would have looked much better just unilaterally naming the first province after yourself to begin with.

And that's not saying much.............I named a city that way in the C3C ISDG :D

If they really cared, they wouldn't have abstained. I would have rather had a Japanese sounding name anyway.

Abstainia would have been a great name.

Zarn, just change it by gubernatorial decreee, you got the power, but the people let you down. Pick what you feel is right.

Governor Zarn,

I would like to humbly submit my application to become Mayor of Furuyama. Since I was the most vocal champion of Site C, I would honor the opporunity to work with you to use this city to the fullest.

If you would let my current standing as Trade Minister influence your refusal, keep in mind that I do not plan to run for second term. My heart is in Furuyama, and that is where I would like it to stay.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
Trade Minister

Governor Zarn and Trade Minister Donovan Zoi, I will back the Zoian request for becoming the Mayor of Furyama, and as the pivotal swing vote, I hope that helps. In return, I hope both of you back me in setting up a province south of the Yotsubashi mountains, in those
unforgiving highlands on the Babylonian Border.

You are in, Donovan Zoi. You can request in here, or in a seperate thread.

If you're going to call yourself something other than Governor, wouldn't Prefect be more in character with Japan? And a province should be called a prefecture.

It shouldn't be Praetor, it should be Proconsul. Serevok is a preator, as are Cyc, KCCrusader, and Immortal. Praetors had a funny job somewhere between judge and general, as I recall. :p

I agree with Dave. But prefectures seem a bit smaller than the provinces usually are.

DAIMYO
goodamn, no need to Romanize or americanize all game concepts, Americans and Romans are other civs

It shouldn't be Praetor, it should be Proconsul. Serevok is a preator, as are Cyc, KCCrusader, and Immortal. Praetors had a funny job somewhere between judge and general, as I recall. :p

I agree with Dave. But prefectures seem a bit smaller than the provinces usually are.
praetor is the head of our religous group, yevon

Actually, IIRC, each city would be a Prefecture. So we have Fanatikku Prefacture, and Furuyama Prefecture, and we will soon have many more.

Lord Praetor,

His Honor, the President, wishes for your instructions. (In the turnchat thread.)

Also, there will be 1 settler issuing now and another in 10 turns. So there shall be 1 city added to the build queue.

Please review the sites listed in this Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=97079) and please have instructions ready for the leading sites. Hopefully no more than 2 items per site.

I also wish to report that some of the Ministers wish to extend the Turnchat until the discovery of Iron Working, between 13 and 20 turns from now, especially Provolution. I would advise you to be prepared to give build orders that cover a 20-turn period.

I invite you to join a very important discussion. Please participate. :)

Furuyama Gems (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=97121)

Honorable Praetor Zarn and the Domestic Department:

I humbly request to be able to open a thread honoring the city of Immo, named after myself. To be treated as a "mayor" but not to build queues for it specifically, only to honor the great city as it should be.

Honorable Praetor Zarn and the Domestic Department:

I humbly request to be able to open a thread honoring the city of Immo, named after myself. To be treated as a "mayor" but not to build queues for it specifically, only to honor the great city as it should be.

Ok, 'Mayor' Immortal. ;)

I happy to see you get your city, unfortunately for you it's Immo, Zarnia. :p

Zarn, I have only one special request from you, and I will be grateful. I realize that naming a city after me would take ages, if not possible, so I hope you can arrange me a landmark name? I know this is a governorial position, and not necessarily polled.

Plase let me know if you are open to the idea. :)

Honorable Governor / Praetor,

We currently have our capitol undefended, and a settler will be produced in very few turns, which will also be undefended. Currently a spearman is under construction, which could be replaced by two warriors, one for the settler's defense and one for the capitol garrison. After that point we can afford to build spearmen because there will be a hiatus in settler production while work on the granary commences.

Honorable Governor / Praetor,

We currently have our capitol undefended, and a settler will be produced in very few turns, which will also be undefended. Currently a spearman is under construction, which could be replaced by two warriors, one for the settler's defense and one for the capitol garrison. After that point we can afford to build spearmen because there will be a hiatus in settler production while work on the granary commences.

I'll look into it.

i know this has been brought up b4 but nolodan isnt legally the deputy
article h:
Article H.
No person shall hold multiple positions of leadership
(President, Vice-President, Department Leader,
Judiciary, Provincial Governor, Deputy) simultaneously,
nor shall have more than one accepted nomination at the
commencement of the general election.

Governor Zarn,

Seems as though trouble may be brewing in our capital. Please join the following discussion for your briefing.

Focus on Fanatikku: There's A Riot Goin On! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=97312)

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
Minister of Trade

B_H: Yeah, wasn't that law posted after he became deupty? I took him off as I though it was obvious he would rather be a minister.

DZ: I posted there, and I even saw it when I was looking at the save earlier today. No matter what Domestic does, production will remain intact, it may not just be at 100%.

Until it is given a similar more Japanese sounding name, I hereby name the river running next to the capital, the River of Vitality.

The desert to the East should be called Arid Zona, as suggested, but it looks like in will be located in several provinces, so I will not name it.

Genkikawa is "healthy river" in Japanese, comparable to vitality.

Most Honorable Governor,

Our Settlers prepare for their journey North. Our next city is known to be named Zojoji. As namer of this city, I humbly request that you find it within your heart to name me the Mayor of Zojoji. I have years of experience as a Mayor, and have great plans for the city.

Most Honorable Governor,

Now that Zojoji has been established, I ask again for the Mayorship of this fine town.

Prov: Genkikawa it is then. I told you before, but this makes it more official.

Cyc, you are most welocme to be mayor. Congrats!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/dogezas.gif Most Honorable Governor,

Thank you for the opportunity to serve. If you ever need my services, you can find me here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=97764)

I will be checking in randomly with reports from Zojoji.

Good job on the queues, Zarn! We need those workers!

I am pleased to see the Governor taking a Pro-Active Role in delivering instructions days in advance. :goodjob: :band: :clap:

The only suggestion I have is to consider changing the Zojoji Worker to a Settler to continue Rapid Expansion. I will soon present yet another Settlement Suggestion to the discussion threads, and while the settlers percribed correspond to Phase 1 of the plan, we'll still need a few more to complete the perimiter or to claim far flung resources.

The problem is that we need to workers to connect such resources. That is why that one is being built. The more workers we have, the faster the connections. More settlers will come, but we need some workers to connect and improve the around around the cities we are about to have.

If you wish to discuss this further will, as I'm not closed minded and open to why you feel we need that settler then. ;)

I would like to change queue in Epolenep:
Temple takes only 10 turns more then current spearman. If we switch immediately to the temple, city borders will expand and we will have wheat and thus build spearman faster and allow city to grow.

Combination temple->spearman is better than spearman->temple because there is no immediate threat to Epolenep.

I would like to change queue in Epolenep:
Temple takes only 10 turns more then current spearman. If we switch immediately to the temple, city borders will expand and we will have wheat and thus build spearman faster and allow city to grow.

Combination temple->spearman is better than spearman->temple because there is no immediate threat to Epolenep.

Noted. I'm looking into it. I think you are right.

edit: Queue changed to Temple, Worker, Spear

The units nearby are enough for now.

Governor Zarn, I would like to ask that you appoint me mayor of my recently founded namesake city of Odawara.

While I'm waiting for my official post as mayor, I'd just like to point out that Odawara is much closer to Rome's capital than our own, and only one tile away from Antium. Though defence is important, I'd like to suggest that we swich to a temple to take care of culture, since we already have one garrison.

Okay, you are mayor. I'm thinking about the switch (the spear is still in production), and I may go for it. It looks like a good idea to me.

That you for this great honor, wise governor. And congratulations on your second term.

Praetor Zarn, when will you make a term two thread?