This one I had started paralelly with the Ottoman knight. Steph's description says it is a Chinese medieval unit, part of the elite "Tiger" division, therefore the tiger mask and costume. Other than that, I know nothing about it :D so if someone has more info, please post a bit about those guys, because I want to learn a bit about them. It is a stragne feeling when you make units you never knew before ;)

DL http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/ChineseTiger.zip

Pedia art below, animated preview in the next post :)

Fortify > AttackA > AttackB > Death

I#m not really sure if they woud fight in that way, but I thought it i a nice idea :)

Wow, this was unexpected. He looks great. :)

Wow, this was unexpected. He looks great. :)


I agree with both comments !

Tiger is "Hu" in Chinese. So maybe HuZi ?

He looks like he floats in the air above ground; because the shadows :)

Well, actually the shadows look better in the game. You can see it in flicster, when you activate the "alpha blend" option. Just look on the attached pic, the shadows appear bigger on the grey bg. The unit is correctly on the ground, still the shadows appear not fully connected, but that is just a matter of one pixel or so. Sometimes on smooth shadows small parts are eliminated by the anti-alias, but I wont rework it if it is just that small.

BEBRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D :crazyeye: :goodjob: [dance] :love:

I don't have much more info, except the shield called TonPey is made of reed put in a spirale

His death anim looks like he's drunk and looses his balance. But I still think its a cool unit ;)

His death anim looks like he's drunk and looses his balance. But I still think its a cool unit ;)
Drunken master fighting style ;) :beer:

You probably have to be drunk to fight in such an outfit :D ;)

OR

he is really wearing nothing and is painted that way.

Do you know more about these guys? I'm just curious about them ;)

no..

i never heard of such...

im really into DYNASTY WARRIORS so .. hehe.. make some superhuman heavy armored and really cool weapon-wielding next? ;) :p ;)


But i GOT to tell you this bebro.
DONT FORGET:
you need to add this in the UNIT ARTIST LIBRARY and every other one you can too! :D

Just added it to the library :)

Now i bet you have to get started on that superhuman heavy armored cool weapon wielding civ-version dynasty warrior character you were going to work on next :D :whipped:

EDIT:

wait till winter sees this...

also Dann could give more info on it.. maybe...

Ermrrmm...no :mischief: :D

NOOOOO!!!

I HAVE NO REASON TO LIVE NOW!!!

goodbye cruel world...

:suicide:

Cool unit :D The shadow thing could also be because he's standing on the balls of his feet, instead of flat-footed. Makes the shadow thinner at the bottom.

I just noticed your tag line there Nameless53... I'm not sure whether to be flattered or concerned that I'm starting a cult...

Yeah, let's start a civ creation sect. We seek illumination through unit making :D The holy hand grenade may be our holiest relic :)

Sehr gut! Hervorragend! Und Nr., spreche ich nicht Deutsches; Ich benutze einen Übersetzer.

Whats up next wise, Bebro?

Nice unit, though I suspect it to be fantasy. On google the only thing I could find about it was this, and it just talks about helmets not uniforms. Also I found it on a forum for Shogun Total War.

During the Warring States period to the Three Kingdoms of China the helmets wore by important or highly ranks officers represent a dragon or a tiger warrior.

Hm, interesting. Steph had sent me a scan from a book depicting this unit. Maybe it says whether it was historic or not.

Goldflash, I really haven't decided so far. When do you need the Rooivalk? ;)

Well.. I have to go off to college on the 19th but I'm not going to Harvard or anything so I should have some free time. I want to use it as the second Zulu UU in the GATTM, replacing the attack helicopter (your apache)

Should be no prob to do it within the next two weeks then. I'll will make some other units before....;)

Vielen Dank!

I just noticed your tag line there Nameless53... I'm not sure whether to be flattered or concerned that I'm starting a cult...

i was going to put "worshiper of kinboat" or "kinboat's requesting stalker". :D

Good unit. :goodjob: Even if he is fictional it is a good unit.

Nameless, LOL. We should call the cult K(inboat's) U(nit) C(reation) S(ect)
or KUCS for short. lol

It's suppose to be historic, but the only thing I have is the picture

Bebro,

will it be too much work to edit AttackA?

the left leg comes down too fast (before swing finishes) and not far out enough.. stomps back to the same place.

(take a look and see.)

i can try to fix it but so far my trieds made it "where i want it but :lol: jiggly :lol: ".
... which means it isnt where and how i wanted it fixed at.

Hm, I made it intentionally in this way. If you do not like it at all you can also edit it out of the ini file, and use only attackB.

nah, no need. :)
its not i dont like the animation. just the leg looked odd. i have no clue how they would move but since you did it on purpose then i dont have to worry about it being moved too fast down on mistake.
(right now im playing around with the flicster and FLC and PCX (yes, backups made) and ive just added big black nostrals on the nose of the shield :D .

yea i want the old shield back now lol...

This looks great! If it wasn't so tiger-striped, it could ALMOST be Aztec. Any chances of giving it a Jaguar pattern instead of tiger, so it could be used as a Mesoamerican med. infantry type unit? :D

Love the unit BeBro. I'm going to have to patch my mod before it reaches beta already.

Kodama: Theres already like four different versions of the Jaguar Warrior, we don't need another one......

This is a great Medival Infantry replacement for China Bebro! Thanks!

Lets see,

Chinese Units:

Land:

Chinese Chariot(Bebro): Chariot
Tang Horseman(Dom Pedro): Horseman
Rider(Firaxis): Knight
Asian Cavalry(Utahjazz?): Cavalry
Chinese Swordsman(Utahjazz): Swordsman
HuTi(Tiger Warrior):Medival Infantry
Qin Spearman(Utah Jazz?): Spearman
Firelancer(Dom Pedro): Pikeman
Asian Musketman(Firaxis): Musket Man

Sea:

Kublai(Galley)
Junk(War Galley)
War Junk(Galleass)
Floating Tiger1(Late Galleass)
Floating Tiger2(Frigate)
Chinese Ironclad(Ironclad)

no..

i never heard of such...

im really into DYNASTY WARRIORS so .. hehe.. make some superhuman heavy armored and really cool weapon-wielding next? ;) :p ;)


But i GOT to tell you this bebro.
DONT FORGET:
you need to add this in the UNIT ARTIST LIBRARY and every other one you can too! :D

yay, i love DYNASTY WARRIORS!!!

anyway nice unit, we need more of these asian units.

Chinese Units:

Land:

Chinese Chariot(Bebro): Chariot
Tang Horseman(Dom Pedro): Horseman
Rider(Firaxis): Knight
Asian Cavalry(Utahjazz?): Cavalry
Chinese Swordsman(Utahjazz): Swordsman
HuTi(Tiger Warrior):Medival Infantry
Qin Spearman(Utah Jazz?): Spearman
Firelancer(Dom Pedro): Pikeman
Asian Musketman(Firaxis): Musket Man


I'd rather take the Firelancer for an Arquebusier.. Don't forget the Chu-ko-nu for a late archer/crossbowman.

Sorry guys, just saw this today. And I have only one thing to say:

What the hell is it? :lol:

Nice unit anyway. :thumbsup: I'd give this either to Southeast Asian civilizations, or the extreme southern indigenous tribal kingdoms in ancient China. (which no longer exist and have all been assimilated.)

Here is the original picture. It comes from a uniform book, and is simply label "Chinese warrior of the elite Tiger division"

Hmm... never seen that picture before. This intrigues me. I'll research it. :)

maybe.. they were elite guards/warriors dressed like that during a celebration?

my guess if its not possible for them to... go into battle like that.. not saying they cant...

I dunno... this unit seems to be on a rather odd angle. The animations are also a little awkward. I actually thought this was one of BeBro's earlier units that had been bumped up... the 01/08 threw me off for a moment.

I really like the concept, but honestly, it just doesn't seem to be up to BeBro quality. It may look better in game though.

Hm, I'm not sure why "odd angle"? Do you mean that he's leaning forward? In the default he stands upright, then his upper body leans forward while fortifying (and then also during the attack anims).

It may just be the fact that the feet remain straight eventhough he's on the balls of his feet, but it seems to me almost like there is a different camera angle in the Attack animation. In particular, that back leg seems very high up. It's probably nothing.

Try this... does it make it less noticable? (in game with other flc).
( i never fixed attack or atleast successfully, this is all ive altered, this make him stand more straight in default... if that was what ur talking about other than in attack section of leg.)

(braught to you buy the Nameless Unit Workshop)

Well, yes the feet remain straight, animating them would mean I have to use some more bones. I just thought nobody would notce it :mischief: But the right leg appears only high up because it is angled backwards and sidewards (to the right) - I think that is not unnatural. You see it better in S or N view. I think on future infantry units I'll change feet and legs a bit, making them also a bit stronger.

this is the first unit in my game that require furs as one of its requirements.. :) :D

wierd i know.... :p

OHHHH.... I know why they dressed as tiger (beside they called themselves the Tiger Warrior).
several thousand years ago some tactician derived a military maze formation called the EIGHTFOLD (related to The Eight Triagrams). This Legendary Maze was said to be unrivaled, whoever master it will triumph every battles. It has eight transformations that changes continuesly to trap the enermy forces. The last time this formation used was in 220-234AD by a man named ZHUGE KONGMING. After KONGMING's dead the formation was lost.

Here is the reason why there was a TIGER DIVISION ( ahahah):

"Heaven, earth, wind, clouds, dragons, tigers, birds, and snakes--what is the meaning of these eight formation?"

"There was an error made by those who transmitted them. The ancients secretly concealed these methods, so they craftily created these eight names. The eight formation were originally one, being divided in eight. Forexample, 'Heaven' and 'Earth' originated in flag designations; Wind and Clouds originated in pennant names. Dragon, tigers, birds,and snakes originated in the distinctions of the platoons and squads. Later generations erroneously transmitted them. If they were cleverly creating formations in the image of animals, why would they just stop at eight?"

that's all we know of the legendary formation.

so these were soldiers that was part of an advanced/successful military formation?

so these were soldiers that was part of an advanced/successful military formation?

Well during the middle age, the chinese generals misunderstood about the meanings of the those eight words, that describe part of the eightfold formation. They literly believed those eight words and decorated their soldiers as 'Tiger'= Tiger Warrior, 'Bird'= Phoenix Warrior, 'dragon'= dragon warrior,...ect. They though in dressing the soldiers these ways they can unleast the secret of the EIGHTFOLDFORMATION. But, Tiger, Bird, Dragon are just symbol to represent Company, Battalion, or Division, Corp.

The EightFold Formation are far beyond what they have though.

That's interesting information :)

Well during the middle age, the chinese generals misunderstood about the meanings of the those eight words, that describe part of the eightfold formation. They literly believed those eight words and decorated their soldiers as 'Tiger'= Tiger Warrior, 'Bird'= Phoenix Warrior, 'dragon'= dragon warrior,...ect

How can they be mistaken like that? That's unbelievable. :eek:

religion.. superstition?

"legend"?

Great looking unit. Even if it isn't real, the fact that we're discussing if it could have been means it is useful for Civ. To me, the game is really about what could have been, rather than what was.

My theory is that the uniform is not historically accurate but that the shield probably is. I've seen wu shu (martial arts) shields that are basically the same thing. There is a picture of one here: http://www.bworthsc.vic.edu.au/www/programs/asia.html (scroll down a bit). I think perhaps a Westerner may have seen one of those shields and speculated the rest of the uniform, which looks rather similar to something worn for wu shu. Maybe they were also aware of the helmets that Yoda Power mentioned. But either way it is a great unit. I think it will make a good opponent for Kinboat's pandas.

maybe.. they were elite guards/warriors dressed like that during a celebration?

my guess if its not possible for them to... go into battle like that.. not saying they cant...


Why not? It doesn't look particularly bulky or awkward to me ...

Don't know if they exist or not (since my knowledge of military history is very limited), but I think they'd work great for a fantasy mod, especially if the mod incorporates East Asian mytholoogy.

Hmm... How about making the famed "Monkey King" Sun Wukong? :) There are lots of pictures of him around.

Yeah, it be great if you guys can make mods of the Asian heroes.

EX: Zhao Zilong The Lord of Shunpin, Guan Yu, Zhuge Liang, Machao....so on

i second that.

we need a "shogun character (sengku)" for china..

Wow, another Exelent Unit :D :) :D
Youre the god of units :worship: :worship: :jesus: :worship: :worship:

I ran that picture on a Chinese Civ site plus some others.

Many recognize the weapon and shield but not the uniform.

I learned however that there were many "Tiger Divisions" throughout Chinese history. The Zhou, Han, Jin and Song all had such elite units. Unfortunately the historical accounts all only mentioned numbers, organization and formations. None mentioned weapons, equiptment or uniforms. :(

With the lack of armor, this unit should perhaps be taken to represent the earliest "Tiger Division" - that of the Zhou. :)

With a different skin, this could almost be converted to an aztec jaguar. Great :thumbsup: