Demogame V Office of City Names

The Office of City Names is a independent government office of little importance. So little, in fact, that it didn't exist until I got bored and asked Noldodan if I could set it up. It isn't specified in the constitution (it was in DG3 in the CoS), so how exactly the leader is chosen is anyone's guess. Right now its lead by me, the Deputy Minister of Domestic Affairs. Its job is to keep track of all the city names chosen by citizens in the registry, so that the president has a convenient way of knowing what to name the next city. A list will be posted shortly, and be updated following each turnchat.

The City Naming Office is Operating

City Names as per Citizen Request
These names were requested by citizens in the registery. They are ordered by the time of registration, and are to be built in that order. Those citizens who did not specify names were ommitted. Note that the name you requested may be "Japanese-ified" before being built, or any of a large number of other possible mistakes. Hense the final column. Once a city is built, it will have an "X" in the "Status" column.


Status Citizen Requested City Name(s) City Name
X Daveshack (CAPITAL) Fanatikku
X Chieftess Furuyawa/Furukama (river/mountain) Furuyama
X Immortal Immo, Khatovar, Apathetica Immo
X Rik Meleet Epolenep Epolenep
X Cyc Zojoji, Daitokuji Zojiji
X Epimethius Odawara, Any real Japanese city name Odawara
X CivGeneral Shorin-Ryu, Okinawa Shorin-Ryu
X Regent Man Regent Town, Rising Sun Regent Town
X Toaae Corrino Corrino
X Noldodan Minas Alcar/Osgiliath/Palargir (inland/river/sea) Osgilliath
X Ulyaoth En'Gha/R'yleh (mountains/water) En'Gha (recommended for renaming)
X Blackheart Sto'vo'kor, Thu Do, Neo Tokyo Sto'vo'kor
X Falcon02 Windurst Windurst (recommended for renaming)
X Truckingpet Pete, Foley Pete
X SniperDevil Manchai, Tao Chi Saki Manchai
X TimBentley Bentropolis Bentropolis
X Plexus Gurenshi, Parekasu Gurenshi
X Donovan Zoi Nihilon, Sobe Nihilon (formerly Eridu)
X Bigmeat Doomsville, Eviltown Doomsville (frm. Antium)
X Sarevok Baldur's Gate, Athkatla Baldur's Gate (frm. Pompeii)
X Babbler Centennial, Hero's Home, Port Solema Ravenna (Old Roman name)
X msz4 Ominato, Kuma Hispalis (Old Roman name)
X Provolution Kagemusha, Nihonjinron City Viroconium (Old Roman name)
X Annatar Drachenfels, Donnersburg TBD (Temporary name)
X Ankka Fish Pond/Duckburg (lake/other) TBD2 (Temporary name)
Lecky Grumpypuss
Michelangelo Hill Valley, The Chapel
Globo Izanagi-No-Mikoto
Coinich Wakashio
Stuck_As_A_Mack Yatta
Civanator Civanatoria, DePaolo
Vander Vandopolis
Verowin Huntington Beach, Rotterdam
mhcarver Midgar, Rocket Town
Zarn Celestial Fortress, Jedina
Fier Canadian Maicamacilos/Minas Ambaron (iron/other)
Zorven Se Aroshe, Zintaria
superpelon Pelukken, Ikken
Danel Any real Japanese city name
Stef Powa Japatupia
MSTK Barad-Dur/Osgiliath (if not yet used)
Bacon King Bacon Bits, Nowhere
Black_Hole The Black Hole Constantinople
Spartan010 Haloville, Alexiario
Donsig Shaitan, Shinsplitter
juballs2001 Mt. Hokymasu/Tanjinawa (mountains/water)
KCCrusader Furukawa (if not yet used)
Inkstier Inksteria, Cataclysmia
aprilshowers Shower's Castle
Weasel Op Weaselopolis
LeeT911 Arrakis/Novabliss (desert/other)
jst666 Kallio, Sieni
Espirito Aphraea
Comnenus Edo Castle, Rurouni Central
Blackbird SR-71 Centerville, FudgeMcWanga
puglover Here Be Dragons, Acropolium
Plechazunga Mothra, Okinawa (if not yet used)
Inter32 Gocholandia, Vice City
anarchywrksbest Anarck Popo Looz

Note that the current list is incomplete, as it only extends to the end of page four of the citizen registery.

Note on capital city name: The right to name the first and capital city falls to the initial President, who in this case is DaveShack. He has chosen to chose a name out of those proposed by citizens, rather than invent one himself. Because of this, the first city slot remains empty.

[i]These names were requested by citizens in the registery. They are ordered by the time of registration, and are to be built in that order.
Sorry to but in here, Deputy, but I don't agree with this method of city naming. We never see most of those people again, so why should they get to name cities? I much prefer following the CoC, as it insures that the people naming the cities are at least active in the game.

Sorry to but in here, Deputy, but I don't agree with this method of city naming. We never see most of those people again, so why should they get to name cities? I much prefer following the CoC, as it insures that the people naming the cities are at least active in the game.
this is the way it was done last game, otherwise only elected ppl get to name a city, not too democratic

btw, epimethius my first city name is "The Black Hole" not "Black_Hole" :p

But BH, half the people on that list haven't even posted since they registered! To name most of them: Regent Man, Ulyaoth, Bigmeat, Lecky, Michelangelo, Globo, Verowin, mhcarver, Stef Powa, Spartan010, juballs2001, inkstier, April Showers, weasel op, jst666, Esperito, Blackbird SR-71, Puglover, Plechazunga, Inter32, and Anarchywrksbest. Why should they get to name cities before people who are actually in the game?

Noldo

Well, Globo ...

Provo

Uh nolodan actually I have been posting I just missed the turnchat because I was at a family event yestersday, In fact I have signed up for several societies, and participated somewhat in some of the debates, and oh yeah and on several of the election night threads. and anyone that may have seen what I put in this place the first time I'm sorry but I am somewhat active. :mad:

Why should they get to name cities before people who are actually in the game?

Noldodan, you're right... But, we are in democracy... :( :D

Sorry to but in here, Deputy, but I don't agree with this method of city naming. We never see most of those people again, so why should they get to name cities? I much prefer following the CoC, as it insures that the people naming the cities are at least active in the game.

I disagree, Noldodan. Your proposal is unfair to everyone except the elite, and based on favoritism. All those people that came here registered and voted, only to forever leave were recruited by the elite, who used those people to win the election. Now you want to cut them out so the elite will get preferential treatment. Get real.

But BH, half the people on that list haven't even posted since they registered! To name most of them: Regent Man, Ulyaoth, Bigmeat, Lecky, Michelangelo, Globo, Verowin, mhcarver, Stef Powa, Spartan010, juballs2001, inkstier, April Showers, weasel op, jst666, Esperito, Blackbird SR-71, Puglover, Plechazunga, Inter32, and Anarchywrksbest. Why should they get to name cities before people who are actually in the game?

Not completely true, Noldy. RegentMan posted a lot last game and should return this game. Lecky is the same way. Michaelangelo, Globo, and mhcarver (especially) have all posted.

But BH, half the people on that list haven't even posted since they registered! To name most of them: Regent Man, Ulyaoth, Bigmeat, Lecky, Michelangelo, Globo, Verowin, mhcarver, Stef Powa, Spartan010, juballs2001, inkstier, April Showers, weasel op, jst666, Esperito, Blackbird SR-71, Puglover, Plechazunga, Inter32, and Anarchywrksbest. Why should they get to name cities before people who are actually in the game?

If memory serves, I have seen posts from mhcarver, weasel op, jst666, Esperito, Blackbird SR-71 and Ulyaoth.

Simply because someone doesn't post, does not mean they don't participate. There has been good turnout in elections.

Glad someone noticed me, I've posted, voted and attended turn chats Noldo,

Maybe we should have it that if the person wants the city named when they are next in order they must attend the turnchat in which it occurs, or if they cant attend, post in the thread when they are next in queue as being active.

I even remember espirito at the creation chat last night.

:)

Awwww, I'm rememberable :)

Well, I have two things to say. I am sorry about the list. I was just going from memory, and didn't check on things. I am sorry if I offended anyone. Second, about the "elite status" argument: Is Provolution (for example) suddenly part of some upper class because he won an election? Anyone else with sufficient drive could have done it as well, I am sure. But I do offer this as a compromise: We use the citizen registry order, but only if they have posted recently, say within two weeks. If they post in the official absence thread and their turn comes up during the absence, they would be considered eligible for city naming.

As long as we use the Citizen's Registry, I'm fine with that, as long as you do all of the extra work involved with your plan and have the results posted in the Turn Chat Instruction thread for each Turn Chat (taking into consideration how many cities will be started that t/c). Each and every Turn Chat.

As to your second part, yes. Provolution is now part of that group, simply because he won an election. He now gets all the perks of running the FA Office. He's gaining experience and name recognition. There are a lot of other registered citizens that aren't getting that. Why should Provolution be able to push these other people to the back of the bus, just because he won an election? Like Bobby_Lee said, "Royalty doesn't belong here". We are all citizens of Japanatica. Of course Provolution could say it's unfair that he didn't get a chance to sign up on the Citizen's Registry soon enough. Well, if he would have had enough drive to get signed up earlier, he's be higher on the list. The CR keeps everyone equal on a continual basis throughout the game.

The citizen's registery is the most democratic way to do this. Period. Furthermore, I have already done it through to page four of the registry, and then reformated that to fit the code box (both of which take a considerable amount of time). It is true that most of those people are not active, and it is also true that a large number of people did not submit city names at all. Among those people are DaveShack, the president, but also a large number of people who will never post again. And we did not elect our officials so they would name our cities. If we did, I would have voted for people who I knew would go with Japanese instead of Tolkienesque names. So I would much rather we have a bunch of meaningless tributes to people who registered but never played than a bunch of tributes to our glorious leaders, who are the only ones eligable for the honor. ;)

And, finally, who cares if they get a city named after them? Its not like you get to govern the city. It doesn't have any effect at all. We could do it with a random number generator for all it matters. Hell, I could name them all myself and it wouldn't change a thing. It would be a bit undemocratic, though.

I appreciate you coming and cluttering up my thread with all this. And I'll ignore the fact that using the rank system would move you from tenth to third. ;)

I still don't understand how we will ever have enough cities use all the names...

hi, i probably wont be able to be on much because i have a busy schedule and my parents dont want me on the computer for more than an hour, so i probably wont be able to participate consistintly.

That's OK, Spartan010. Join us when you can. You are always welcome.

Question: If i registered two names, are they both to be used?? or just one??

Answer: When your name comes up for the first round of city naming, the first name you posted is used. After the naming cycle goes through all the registered citizens, it starts over again at the first person to register (CT). If we get so many cities (built and captured) that the naming cycle comes to your name again, the second city name you posted is used. Good luck.

We actually have that many cities?

It is possible we could "acquire" a great many cities.

And, finally, who cares if they get a city named after them? Its not like you get to govern the city. It doesn't have any effect at all. We could do it with a random number generator for all it matters.

I care, and I think many people do, so what if it has no actual tangible value, is it makes the game a bit more personalised. I think the random number generator is however the best solution as though you said if you were bothered you could sign up to the CR ASAP, I did and was still +40, and many of the early people will be inactive. Random numbers is at least fair to all.

We actually have that many cities?
if we smash all of our opponets! :D

I'm actually not too big on renaming, so I doubt we'll make a full cycle considering turnout. So in the cases indicated with /s between the names, the most appropriate name will be used, and in those indicated with ,s the first one. So put the name you want more first.

Please randomise them Epi, its much fairer. Well done compiling them all.

*smiles sweetly*

it shouldnt be random, most likely more active people will sign up first, so that is fairer
it was that way last dg and worked out fine

btw epimethius you still have changed my city "Black_Hole" to "The Black Hole", which it is in the citizen registry

Oh, and Osgiliath is a higher priority than Barad-dûr.

Random is a bad idea, because there is no input from the people. No input = no interest. How about taking the next several cities in the lineup and putting up a poll for those names?

Random having removed inactive posters ofc, if the posters then return they can be put back into the metaphorical hat, and the most active arent necessarily those who sign up frst nor are those who sign up first the most active.

we should put up a confirm list for those that want their names considered. easy

Wow. I really did not expect anyone to care. At all. :p

Well, the way I was going to do it was go in order, except maybe for when a certain name fits better. So if we build a city for iron, I might skip ahead to Fier's name. But otherwise, in order.

Osgilliath was only put second so that I could put the paranthetical note at the end, rather than in the middle. The same is true for any other names used twice (Okinawa).

This definately is the most democratic way to do this. I signed up pretty late and mine most likely wont be used, but I really don't care. If we had to vote or anything else on every cities name it would end up becoming way to messy and complicated.

lol epimethius:
The Black Hole Black Hole Constantinople
i did not want to change my name, but the name of my city to Th Black Hole
Black_Hole The Black Hole Constantinople

Wow. I really did not expect anyone to care. At all. :p

Well, the way I was going to do it was go in order, except maybe for when a certain name fits better. So if we build a city for iron, I might skip ahead to Fier's name. But otherwise, in order.


People do care, Epimethius. I especially care. With the biased poll you put up for the location of our next "two" cities, you trying to force the location of the second city just as we discover Iron. Undoubtedly we will go for an Iron location as soon as it's discovered, if it's within our power.

You above statement would (because of your biased poll), effect the 5th city in the list. That city would be mine. You have said time and again that using the list off the citizen's registry is the most Democratic way of doing it, but then you want to remove that privilage from someone that has done nothing wrong. You're just going to bump them because you like someone else's name better.

THAT would be a travesty. Selectively cutting someone out of the cycle for your own pleasure will be a big mkistake. Besides, I really don't think that move is within your power.

Don't get your panties in a bunch. You'd be sixth. That's a delay of one. Same delay as the capital. I didn't see Chieftess complain about not getting the capital named. She didn't even complain when it was spelled wrong for some reason. You would not be "cut out of the cycle," you'd be pushed back one. Considering the only reason you got fifth in the first place was that you posted earlier than some other people, that's not much of a travesty. I'm sorry if you want the iron city named after you, but thats the way I intend to do it. If you wanted the iron city specifically, you should have submitted a specific name. You may care, but then you seem willing to get pissed about almost anything, but I really doubt anyone else does. Zojoji will still be founded. It just won't be founded quite so soon. When it comes to Fier in the list, he'll be skipped. Now, I think there are a lot of better things you could be throwing tantrums over. :p

I knew your biased poll was to knock my name from 5th to 6th. What a low-handed move. You are taking a natural right of a citizen and trashing it for your own purposes. Typical that this should happen in a Democracy game run by Mods and not the people.

The order of city-naming is:
1: President in term 1 (prerogative)
2: The first to sign up in the citizens-thread
3: The 2nd to sign up
4: the 3rd to sing up
n: The n-1 to sign up.

Cyc signed up as 5th. No pushing people back.

The order of city-naming is:
1: President in term 1 (prerogative)
2: The first to sign up in the citizens-thread
3: The 2nd to sign up
4: the 3rd to sing up
n: The n-1 to sign up.

Cyc signed up as 5th. No pushing people back.

Thank you, Rik Meleet. You again show that you are wise beyond your years. I salute you.


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But BH, half the people on that list haven't even posted since they registered! To name most of them: Regent Man, Ulyaoth, Bigmeat, Lecky, Michelangelo, Globo, Verowin, mhcarver, Stef Powa, Spartan010, juballs2001, inkstier, April Showers, weasel op, jst666, Esperito, Blackbird SR-71, Puglover, Plechazunga, Inter32, and Anarchywrksbest. Why should they get to name cities before people who are actually in the game?
I haven't posted much, but I lurk often and get in the chat room some times. :p

No making up rules as you go, especially ones which break with tradition. :nono: It is the people who need to decide if the way we name cities needs to change.

There is only one circumstance (beyond the President naming the capitol) where it would be appropriate to bump someone's name higher on the list to match geography etc. All people ahead of the one to be bumped must formally agree. If you want to ask the people on the list between the proposed insertion point and that citizen's actual place in line, feel free to do so. I have a feeling I know what the answer will be. :p Actually, if anyone disagrees, then you shouldn't change the order.

Fine. As I've said before, I don't really care.

I don't appreciate all the **** I'm getting from Cyc for trying to do my job, however. It is reaching an increasingly idiotic note with this.

Fine. As I've said before, I don't really care.

I don't appreciate all the **** I'm getting from Cyc for trying to do my job, however. It is reaching an increasingly idiotic note with this.
your job? its no ones job to decide which cities in the list go before others, it goes in order, thats the way it has been last dg(and most likely all of them)... it pays to check the forum often so you know when signups started

i agree with cyc, it matters alot to some people including me

From TC instructions:
If any cities are captured, they should keep their name rather than be renamed.
A majority of us thought we would rename cities, perhaps you could poll something before declaring that thats gonna be the way it works

I agree with Black Hole.

From TC instructions:

A majority of us thought we would rename cities, perhaps you could poll something before declaring that thats gonna be the way it works

Just make sure you discuss it first. ;) And don't forget to include a "middle ground" option(some renamed, some stay).

Oh, and I don't know if this is the place for this, but I moved to Furuyama. :D

this gives me an idea DZ

*hug*

Cities founded by us should be given names as they usually are, from the top of the list. A player may change the city name he wants, or give it up in favor of a more geographically appropriate one. In these cases he should post in the naming office thread. Otherwise, the cities will be named in this order:
Epolenep
Daitokuji
Odawara
Okinawa
As stated, at the request of the person who submitted the name it may be changed. I expect we'll only found that many cities during my absence.

As we can see from Epimethius' OFFICIAL post in the Turn Chat Instruction thread he has childishly switched the names of the cities I listed as my choice. Of course he'll claim it was a mistake, :rolleyes: and I'll get warned for pointing out what he has done.

Mr. President the name is Zojoji. Please make the appropriate correction. This game has turned into such a joke.

The current naming system is okay, but a random number generator to select who may be fairer, if done right. And BTW, I have been able to post, but have yet to attend a turnchat, for I have commitment in "real" life.

I saw that too, Cyc, and thought Zojoji would be the name........... :confused:

Honestly, this office does have too much unchecked power, especially when little oversights like this happen. I am giving the benefit of doubt here, but will remain watchful.

Cyc: It's editted. Zojoji it will be.

i personally dont think epimethius needs to post in the TCIT(Turn Chat Instrutction Thread) just let the DP look at this list and put them in, otherwise Epimethius gets to add unchecked orders and instructions....

edit: heres what I mean from epi's second post:
Note that the name you requested may be "Japanese-ified" before being built, or any of a large number of other possible mistakes.
I personally dont want my city name changed to sound japanese

Thanks, RM. I appreciate it! :thumbsup:

i personally dont think epimethius needs to post in the TCIT(Turn Chat Instrutction Thread) just let the DP look at this list and put them in, otherwise Epimethius gets to add unchecked orders and instructions....

edit: heres what I mean from epi's second post:
Note that the name you requested may be "Japanese-ified" before being built, or any of a large number of other possible mistakes.

I personally dont want my city name changed to sound japanese


I again agree with you, Black Hole. I wouldn't want my names changed for any reason either.

Why should our city names by Japanified? It IS our name isn't it? How many mistakes can be made when naming anyways, how hard is it to run down a list and type in the name?

Why should our city names by Japanified? It IS our name isn't it? How many mistakes can be made when naming anyways, how hard is it to run down a list and type in the name?
that is how it worked last game, and it worked perfectly... i cant remember a single complaint about the way it was done

I would like this office to know about the pending judical review i have filed:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=2108020#post2108020

edit: the JR has been accepted

I did that because I didn't like the two j's, to be honest. I figured it wouldn't make it a difference. It was not, I assure you, because I hold any sort of grudge. Not that it matters anyway at this point.

My reaction to the judicial review that took place without a defending statement can be seen in the judicial thread.

This is my first demogame and i'm enjoying playing it. I would like to propose that one of our cities calls: Edo. It is my name IRL and i would like to have something special and personal in this demogame. Japanese already have that city so please just leave it that way if it already wasn't renamed. If it is, i would like you to add this name to a list for one of our future cities. Thanks.

Thanks to the recent discussion and judicial review on City Name Japanization, for the next week or so the City Naming Office will be pming citizens asking permission to change names if we feel it is necessary. This is entirely up to the citizens. We are also perfectly welcome to the citizen's changing them themselves to something they thought up. The goal is to have all the Japanization figured out before the next term gets under way.

I feel a personal affection to the city that will bear my name.

City Naming Office Instructions

At most, two cities should be founded during this turnchat. They should be called, in order:
1. Okinawa
2. Regent Town

Okinawa, though a second listing, was chosen because I looked up "Shorin Ryu (thinking it was an island) and it turned out to be a martial art. Hopefully CivGeneral won't mind, and I am notifying him of the choice.

Regent Town has remained in English despite my protests because RegentMan did not want to change it, which he was every right to.
Come on epimethius, this is just as bad as changing to cycs second choice
Civgeneral can have a city named after martial arts if he wants
also the fact you are contacting him after is illegal, please see the recent judicial review, you must have permission first to change it
this is really getting me mad :mad:

He's been notified. If he doesn't like it he has every right to complain. The only reason why he wasn't notified earlier was because there was a chat coming up. And I'm not even sure Shorin was his first priority, because I swiched the Okinawa's around.

He's been notified. If he doesn't like it he has every right to complain. The only reason why he wasn't notified earlier was because there was a chat coming up. And I'm not even sure Shorin was his first priority, because I swiched the Okinawa's around.

Here, Epi. This should answer you last statement. CivGeneral's Citizen Registration (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2029851&postcount=8) was directly below yours. It couldn't have been too hard to find. :rolleyes:

Make the correction now, or I'll sic The Immortal on you. ;)

Just a question, why can't a city be named after a martial art? Also, if you changed without approval, isn't that unjudicial?

He's been notified. If he doesn't like it he has every right to complain. The only reason why he wasn't notified earlier was because there was a chat coming up. And I'm not even sure Shorin was his first priority, because I swiched the Okinawa's around.
I am a bit upset at this decision. I have listed Shorin-Ryu first and Okinawa second. I expected to see Shorin-Ryu to be named first. And yes, Shorin-Ryu is listed as first priority.

Just a question, why can't a city be named after a martial art? Also, if you changed without approval, isn't that unjudicial?
you are correct, there is no reason a city cant be named after a martial art, it can be named after anything

you are correct, there is no reason a city cant be named after a martial art, it can be named after anything
I totaly agree. We should have our cities be named the way we want to without all of this nonsense of switching city listings and japanizing them (If the persion does not want it to happen).

I expect to see Shorin-Ryu to be the next city named because it is listed first in my city naming list in the citizen registery form.

Also epimethius, the next time you are not using the exact name specified first by the person next in the list, you better have some proof(pm/post text), otherwise I will investigate

So what will happen if Shorin-Ryu is not named, and Okinawa is? Afterall, elections do end soon...

So what will happen if Shorin-Ryu is not named, and Okinawa is? Afterall, elections do end soon...
our dp has noted it, it should be named shorin-ryu

Its fixed. :rolleyes:

Epimethius, why did you want to change the name? Maybe if you provided an argument, you could've changed it. :rolleyes:

Considering that I am registered citizen #58 on Page 3, is there a chance that I will get my city?

Considering that I am registered citizen #58 on Page 3, is there a chance that I will get my city?
Well considering that back in DG1, when we had decent statistical record-keeping (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=428362&postcount=76), we ended the game with 71 cities, you may well get your chance. We won that game with a Culture Victory, as the Persians.

I thought in DG1 we decided that the department leaders got to name a citiy, and then on to the citizenry?

I thought in DG1 we decided that the department leaders got to name a citiy, and then on to the citizenry?
:king: In DG1, the discussion came up about naming cities on the second day of the game. On the fifth day, eyrei announced (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=237640&postcount=15) the order of the first four city names, based on the names posted in the Citizen Registry for the current Leaders. Therefore, even though I registered 39th, I was able to name the 4th city. That tradition was carried out for quite a while until the Leaders had basically used their names and we were going off the CR only.

I've decided to start keeping people up to date with the operations of the CNO.

950 BC City Naming Office Update

TBD Naming Dilema

When signing up for citizenship, DaveShack, our first president, listed "TBD," meaning "To Be Determined" as his city name. Despite this, he did manage to name the capital and first city, Fanatikku. When it came to found a city between Neapolis and Ellipi, however, we ran into his listing. Since he had not declined entirely, it was decided to reserve the name for him, or give another should he decline. Though I suggest to make the temporary name "Edo" (since Invy wanted that rather badly), we went with TBD. So now we have the problem of giving it a real name.

Suggested Names
Regent Town (next on list)
Shikkencho ("Regent Town" in Japanese, must be approved by Regent Man)
Meushicho (should be "Cow Town")
Nanshi (should be "Southern City")
Mistumeushi (should be "Three Cows")
Shinshi (should be "Eighth City")

Should DaveShack decline to come up with his own name, or choose one of the suggested names, a poll will be held, the choice being to either move along the list or use this chance to assign a more geographically appropriate name. Should the People choose to go with the list, Regent Man can still change his request.

Because of this dilema, the CNO cannot compile a good list of what cities will be named in the next chat at this time. Following DS, should he not decline, Regent Man, Toaae, and Noldodan's names will be up.

English to Japanese Translator Found

I've found a translator that translates English to Japanese, with the option of leaving it in the Latin Alphabet. This will be very convenient for me and others who can't read or speak Japanese. Its available here (http://www.trussel.com/f_nih.htm).

Discussion, Poll Started on Captured City Renaming

The issue of what to do with captured cities in respect to their names is one that has been discussed many times in this thread. With the start of the Iroquois War, the CNO has taken the issue to a poll, following a two day discussion period. The options are to rename it with the name next on the list, change the name to sound more Japanese (spelling-wise), or to have a complex system of changing it when its citizens become truely Japanese. The discussion, which should be read before voting, is here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=98688&page=1), while the poll is taking place for the next two days here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=98877). The City Naming Office endorses only minor changes to make the spelling sound more Japanese.

Naming List Update

The City Name Registry (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95655&page=2&pp=1) has been updated, and currently the following are the most likely city names for the next chat session:

1. Regent Town
2. Corrino
3. Minas Alcar

daveshack doesnt get a second city name epi(until we go through the list), the first term pres names the first city only

It should be named Regent Town just as it appears in the CR. The reason it's now named TBD is my fault. I had forgotten that DaveShack had named the Capital already :rolleyes: (don't know how I forgot that!) and insisted TBD be used. It's all in the Chat Log. As RegentMan is next in line, his first preferred city name shold be used. Sorry, RegentMan.

I had not anticipated getting a "bonus selection" as an additional perk of being elected the term 1 president. Really, getting bumped up the list was more than enough, I can wait for a 2nd city name until my proper time the 2nd time around. I'll try to come up with something Japanese sounding by then. :)

I have updated the citizen registry with my choice of names:

1st city: Tranquility
2nd city (if we get that far): Periwinkle

and no thank you, I do not want them Japanifiying.

edit: if you need to know where I am in the registry, I registered here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2034804&postcount=56) (#56) which is just before Stef_Powa on the list you have on the first page.

edit2: I have changed my first city name in the Citizen Registry and have edited this post to avoid confusion as none of my names have yet been added to the list on the first page.

The CNO is going to start up again tomorrow with some pms to citizens, instructions, and the newsletter. My damn english teacher has been assigning an essay a day since school started.

Good evening.
I am requesting a purge of all non-participant city names (by definition: have not posted in THIS forum for the last two weeks.)
Thank you

SaaM

I have entered the city "Ela" in the citizen registry list, after not having a city there for a while. Please slot me in the back of the city list. Thanks. :)

Please replace my first one with Celestial Fortress.

Changed. I left Jedina as your second choice, however.

Due to an error in my absence, the next instructions will specify that En'Gha/R'yleh should be renamed simply R'yleh, as those were actually two choices for the name seperated with a /.

Also, I'm soon going to start petioning, via pm, various citizens to allow their names to be Nipponified. This is purely optional, and any changes much of course be approved by them.

Honorable Citizen Epimethius,
The city of TBD was created last turn chat in the southern province. I believe from your list that this city should be named Gurenshi. Could you please post an instruction in the TCIT regarding this matter.

On other matters:
Should you propose it, I would support a change to the code of laws stating that the position of Governor must be elected and that any proposed provinces must be setup and approved by the house well before expansion (as indicated in the Constituin.

I would also support an explicit change to the code of laws indicating that the names of any cities or provinces be subject to the WOTP as opposed to the current method of demo game tradition. I don't believe that any such change is needed as there is already included by implication.

As for the name of the southern province, I intend to ask for suggestions and if there is no obvious consensus to open a poll on the matter.

Thanks - MOTH
Interim Governor of Hairando Province

I have changed my city name choice to KC. Could that please be reflected on this thread? :D

Epi,
There are at least a couple new cities that need names. TDB and TBD2.

Thanks

I know, I know.

Speaking of which, I was going to pester some people into Nipponitizing....

Can we please please please purge the rolls of non-citizen names? I hate seeing city names named after people who signed up and did nothing after that.

SaaM

All citizens are created equal. There will be no purge.

*bangs gavel*

I wouldn't mind it either, since pestering them about their un-Japanese names is hard when they don't reply, but its just not democratic.

The registry has been updated, and instructions posted. I've also started receiving name nominations for the renaming of Rome.

All citizens are created equal. ......
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The registry has been updated, and instructions posted. I've also started receiving name nominations for the renaming of Rome.Is there any chance of adding my city names to the list then, as per my entry in the citizen registry and post number 82 in this thread? I realise that I've got a bit of a wait for my name, but it would be nice to see it in the list.

I notice that Ginger Ale's (No 44 in the citizen registry) city name also still need adding (he requested this here not many posts after I did).

Thank You

Furiey

PS: I notice your name in the Citizen Registry is "I don't like this naming system" as we are naming cities by the citizen registry don't you think you should update it?

City Naming Office Announcement

It has recently come to the Office's attention that a mistake was when naming cities conquered from Rome a few centuries back. When assigning names, the City Naming Office seems to have incorrectly assumed the timing of certain cities founding and capture, leading to an unfortunate swich between Kagemusha (Provolution) and Drachenfels (Annatar). The City Naming Office is sorry that this has not come to our attention sooner, and appologizes for the mistake.

Normally, it is CNO policy to request for the mistake to be fixed, on bahalf of the citizen. However, by this point both cities have long had these names, and furthermore there is no request on the part of either citizen for the error to be fixed. Should one of the citizens effected, or a representative of them, requestion the error be fixed then we will give those instructions. We are also open to any other requests for any mistakes that slipped past to be fixed.

City Naming Office Announcement

In light of new evidence the above announcement has been contracted. It seems I resigned this position a month ago. So the above is meaningless.

This may look bad, but its not like my memory was that good before, anyway. :p

With the potential of having more cities to rename in the Russian war and the confused state of the city naming list, I sat down and ploughed my way through the Citizen Registry (first 80 posts only) and this thread to update the list. If I've missed something or simply got it wrong please shout so it can be corrected. I have sorted the list first into those names used so far, then Citizens still to have names used - I thought this would be simpler than going all the way down the list to find the next one. The list includes all citizens whether or not they have specified names, and the Reg No column is their post number in the Citizen Registry. I have also included the MS Excel file so the information is available for anyone to update. The Excel file has the Reg No hyperlinked to the Citizen Registry and also has a column for when the city was founded/captured, although I have not gone back through all the chat logs to find out the capture dates - if you know them let me know.

Looks like Odessa and Punjab go to zorven (Se Aroshe) and superpelon (Pelukken).

Roma and Salamanca have been dealt with on an individual basis so do not appear in the list, but there is also Tonawanda. I have not found this name anywhere - should it be renamed?

Excel file of all names:

Used City Names:

Still to be used City Names:

Actually, Tonawanda was obtained in the Iroquois Peace Treaty. Whioch means it would've been after Ela. (Actually, after Niagara Falls, but we lost that city to Culture.)

Ugh...

So I guess that you've got Tonawanda then, but the next "Natural" city should accepts its default name.

And Lugdunum? Cherbourg?! We never were at War with the French!

Provo's city was Augustus' outpost of Viroconium. Drachensfel was located at the site of the former Neapolis. Grumpypuss was Ibanabango.

Thanks SDIII. I was surprised at some of the old names, I know we got some cities by flipping, which was how I assumed we got Cherbourg. I actually got the old names by looking at CRP Rings which keeps the original city names (or so I thought). Guess I'll have to re-check them all by looking at an old save....

OK, gone through the old saves and a few corrections...

Genrushi was founded by us
Kagemusha was Viroconium
Drachenfels was founded by us 1 SW of the site of the razed city of Neapolis
Grumpypuss was Ibabango
Izanaga-no-mikoto was Maunch Chunk which was founded 1 NE of the site of the original Pompeii

looks like CRP rings picks up some strange names sometimes....