Article E. Legislative Branch

The Legislative Branch will be formed of one House of the People and an Advisory
Council.

1.The House of the People will be formed of the entirety of the
citizenry and is responsible for the drafting of new Laws and
Amendments to the Constitution.
a.The House will present all proposed Articles, Amendments
and Laws to the Judicial Branch for review.
2.The Advisory Council will be formed of the Provincial Governors.
They will advise the citizens of the state of their individual
provinces, any concerns there may be for said provinces,
and enumerate any goals they envision for their provinces.
a.Each Governor shall determine any policies and procedures
needed to carry out their duties.
b.Governors are responsible for the care, management,
use of the cities, and use of lands of a province through the
setting of build queues, allocation of laborers on tiles,
population rushes and drafting of citizen soldiers.

This Article does not exist in the current Constitution, so there is no replacement language to consider.

This poll will be open for 96 hours, after which it will considered Ratified or Defeated.

YES. I like it. :D

this makes no mention of a senate, only a council of governors, this is unacceptable in my view...a Senate MUST be added to any legislative body in order to protect the national purse....this cannot be done by the same house that is mentioned in this article...furthermore a senate would be useful in that it could issue national demands of the governors thereby directly uniting the nation in important tasks through proclamations of the Senate...furthermore i point out that while a Senate would probably bother some of the ministers because they would have to ask for money for thier projects i also point out it could help them through thier authority to order things to happen

therefore the answer to this proposal MUST be NO

Well, you had your chance for days and days and days to comment on this in the discussion thread.

unfortunately i missed that, was busy with other things, i can still vote it down now though...nothing against the general idea but i do believe in a Senate and i cannot sacrifice a belief just because i or anyone else screwed up...

unfortunately i missed that, was busy with other things, i can still vote it down now though...nothing against the general idea but i do believe in a Senate and i cannot sacrifice a belief just because i or anyone else screwed up...

Sorry, (getting off my high horse). Sometimes I forget people have real lives. :blush:

as it appears that your proposal here looks like its gonna pass overwhelmingly i might have to start thinking about how to get an ammendment made that would include the senate...

as it appears that your proposal here looks like its gonna pass overwhelmingly i might have to start thinking about how to get an ammendment made that would include the senate...

You need to start a discussion thread in the Citizens Forum and see if you can garner enough support.

We need this article to pass as it outlines how to add laws to our system.

don't we still need 18 more yes votes in order to get Quorom?

don't we still need 18 more yes votes in order to get Quorom?

As of this time, I believe you are right.

I once again urge all citizens to vote YES on this Article.

yes! until something like this is passed, we have no governors or provinces
we need about another 10 yes votes tho, because of the high census

10 More YES votes, people. Let's get this thing passed. :thumbsup:

Wait a minute. What's the census?

Whatever it is, we really need to reach it. I would like to have a legal job and give legal instructions to the president.

2 more days people! i think we need 6 more votes...

Yes! Only 6 more YES votes to go, and a day and a half to get there.

3 left, we're almost at the finish line!

Just a reminder to please VOTE!

3 votes to go, and less than one day!

Vote now!

people please vote!

:bump:

We need 1 vote for this measure to pass. And while you are here, please vote YES in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95999) so that there will be no more hand-wringing about the passage of near-unanimous polls such as this.

It's come down to this: me begging for your vote! 1 YES vote is needed to pass this Article. Please don't let the people of Japanatica down. Vote YES! This poll is going to close soon, so VOTE YES NOW!

vote yes now!

1 VOTE SHORT CrUD :(

Congratulations! We have managed to prove that the lessons of DG4 have still not been learned. We once again have an imcomplete ruleset prior to the start of the game! :goodjob: :lol:

-- Ravensfire

Congratulations! We have managed to prove that the lessons of DG4 have still not been learned. We once again have an imcomplete ruleset prior to the start of the game! :goodjob: :lol:

-- Ravensfire
not worthy of a reply, abstainer

not worthy of a reply, abstainer


OH NO!!!! It's a reply!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Fun game!

-- Ravensfire

man... we lost ratifacation by 1 vote.... :cry:

I think its now time to redo this amendment and have BobbyLee put his $0.02 in ;).

Bah! We have a province name, but we have no governor (legally anyway) or province! Yeesh!

Join the Order of Yevon

Let's just pretend that the vote made it. Call it a computational error. No one cares. It clearly passed. Just because it was a tiny fraction below the necessary participation doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of particapants ratified it. Let's just put it in anyway.

Let's just pretend that the vote made it. Call it a computational error. No one cares. It clearly passed. Just because it was a tiny fraction below the necessary participation doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of particapants ratified it. Let's just put it in anyway.
Then, what good is the Constitution? If you break one rule, then any rule can be broken with impunity.

Japanatica should not be a banana republic without laws, without procedures and without respect for the laws we pass ourselves. We will not see rigged elections, and we will not see Flordastyle election ballots. I support Comnenus 100 % here against the Abstain guerrilla who does not want a constitution, and hope we will get the votes.

Besides, we should maybe shift legal tradition from the Napolenic Code of Constitution, and use Common Law instead, a Common Law we pass, will still make Zarn Governor.

Besides, we should maybe shift legal tradition from the Napolenic Code of Constitution...

I happen to like Napoleonic Code. Guilty until proven innocent! Used to live in New Orleans, dah'lin. ;) You know there's still a guillotine out behind the Courthouse? Maybe Cyc could use it now and again.

Let's just pretend that the vote made it. Call it a computational error. No one cares. It clearly passed. Just because it was a tiny fraction below the necessary participation doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of particapants ratified it. Let's just put it in anyway.
this would upset the whole idea about democracy, even if laws are bad you cant break them, we will just have to try again and rally support