View Full Version : Unit Request: Polynesian War Canoe
Dom Pedro II Aug 04, 2004, 04:27 PM We've still got more Polynesian units to crank out!! :whipped:
I found this puppy at the Mariners Museum in Newport News, VA. Apparently, this is the concept work for it though it was never actually built.
Could fit nicely between the Hokulea and the Polynesian Frigate... :D
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 05, 2004, 12:23 AM Polynesian Units in existance so far include the Voyaging Canoe, the Polynesian Warrior, and Aaglo's Frigate. It would be nice to see this and the Polynesian Swordsman get made. BTW.......How was your vacation DP? We've missed your pressence on these boards.
Dom Pedro II Aug 05, 2004, 08:28 AM Vacation was good. Virginia's an interesting place... lots of cool things to see and do there.
Polynesians are a double-edged sword. On the one hand, they have a very distinctive style of ships, and as such, it's easier to make a ship look distinctly Polynesian. On the other hand, using generic ships then becomes more difficult and they stick out like sore thumbs.
I'd also like to see some of the new trimaran designs that modern navies are trying because they could then be applied to the Polynesians. But I'd also like to see an industrial-era battleship trimaran as well. That'd be cool.
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 05, 2004, 09:34 AM Yes they would. You use Sween's leaderhead by any chance(Tangoloa?).
Dom Pedro II Aug 05, 2004, 09:40 AM I do. It's basically the reason why I even have the Polynesians in the game... :p
Dom Pedro II Aug 06, 2004, 03:15 PM Bump! Bump! Bump! :bump: :bump: :bump:
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 06, 2004, 05:00 PM lol! One bump is enough you know. Will you add your support to my request Kal-Els last Conscept drawing(the Polynesian Swordsman) getting turned into a unit as well? The Polynesians could use some more land units as well.
Dom Pedro II Aug 06, 2004, 05:14 PM Sure, I'll support it.
Goldflash Aug 06, 2004, 05:18 PM Some one needs to do the Samoan Clubman as well. That dude is neat looking. And fat.
Dom Pedro II Aug 06, 2004, 05:19 PM Yeah... he can hang out and drink beers with my Hun.
And by Hun, I mean my rampaging Turkic unit, not my girlfriend :D
Supa Aug 06, 2004, 05:29 PM Did I hear Agloooooo, agloooooooooooo ?
Mmmh, damn wolves :D
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 06, 2004, 05:53 PM Aaglo is doing the Constitution now, maybe next he could do it.
Dom Pedro II Aug 06, 2004, 06:54 PM The Constitution.... ohhhh myyyy.... where will I put it?! :eek:
Redking Aug 06, 2004, 08:38 PM All right, critical mass. And perhaps someone could convince Rita Poon to do a Maori leaderhead.
BTW, in neither Kal-El's drawings, nor in other discussions have I seen suggested the genuine long-hafted axes nor the long-bladed spears that the Maori sported.
Also, if someone is to do a new Polynesian foot unit, his victory or fidget anim ought to include a haka performance.
- Redking
Master Kodama Aug 06, 2004, 10:49 PM How many was this craft intended to seat? And what's the scale? :confused: It reminds me of the Micronesian raft that's already been made... only, canoe-ish.
R8XFT Aug 07, 2004, 12:20 AM This will make one heck of a unit - let's hope Aaglo takes it up :) .
Dom Pedro II Aug 07, 2004, 09:06 AM Unfortunately, there wasn't any information on the scale, but it looks to me like it's substantially larger than the Micronesian raft which only seated one.
I would imagine it probably seats upwards of ten quite possibly more. I can tell you enough that the area towards the back which might look like it's supposed to be a seat is actually a covered canopy with pillars... the command center of the boat basically.
I would imagine that since this was never completed that it's actually a beefed up version of something like this which was:
http://www.janeresture.com/canoes/melcan.jpg
Another interesting idea for a Samoan war vessel is this:
http://www.janeresture.com/canoes/Samoa%20War%20Canoe,%20pre%201920.jpg
Or this:
http://www.janeresture.com/canoes/warcanoe.jpg
And this could make a very awesome later era Polynesian ship with some modifications... a frigate maybe? Then I can move aaglo's first unit to a galleass flavor...
http://www.janeresture.com/canoes/lgecanoe1.jpg
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 07, 2004, 12:32 PM That last one would be a good Late Galleass, which is a predessor of the Frigate.
Basically Unit lines for ships SHOULD look like this:
War Ships:
War Galley-Galleass-Late Galleass-Frigate-Iron Frigate-WW1 Destroyer-WW2 Destroyer-Modern Destroyer
Medium Warships:
Ironclad-Early Cruiser-Cruiser-Aegis Cruiser
Heavy Warships:
Heavy Galleass-Ship-of-the-Line-Heavy Ironclad-Dreadnought-Battleship
So far for Polynesia, we've got the Voyaging Canoe(Galley) and the Polynesian Frigate(duh!).
For land units, theres the Polynesian Warrior by Utahjazz, and Kal-els conscipt art for the Samoan Clubman and Polynesian Swordsman.
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 07, 2004, 12:34 PM Perhaps we should target individual unit makers for these units...
Polynesian Swordsman: Bebro or Utahjazz
Samoan Clubman: ?(someone who can make models from scratch is a likely canadate)
The Ships: Aaglo(obviously)
Dom Pedro II Aug 07, 2004, 12:35 PM Samoan Clubman: ?(someone who can make models from scratch is a likely canadate)
Why do you say that?
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 07, 2004, 12:46 PM Hes fat? :lol:
Dom Pedro II Aug 07, 2004, 12:50 PM The Michael figure comes with fat morphs... Just look at my Hun. He's a bit on the rolly-polly side.
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 07, 2004, 12:52 PM Oh, I see. I don't know much about Poser or any of those programs, so please forgive my ignorance. :goodjob:
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